how to turn any distortion into an exciter

[@mleuc]

what the fuck just happened 2k view in 2 days like that? youtube algo is kinda fun. anyway, i hope this is going to be useful, if you expand on the idea and make something cool feel free to send a message on discord @mleuc

[@SiliconPrairie]

It happened to my videos too. The algorithm just knows when something will have high viewer retention. Definitely follow up with more similar videos.

[@mleuc]

​@@SiliconPrairie that's what i'm doing rn by coincidence but i dont care much ngl, wont jump on that. i prefer slow but solide growth over instant stuff that pigeonhole you into one thing, esp since i have no plan on investing much time on making videos. It does is informative about what works or not if ever needed one day tho!

[@chimetone]

mythic sound design tutorial pull

[@TyboAudio]

facts

[@exlpt2234]

Fr

[@SiliconPrairie]

This is an excellent tool. Something you should note are the possibilities of a bass-high exciter: if you isolate JUST the signal coming out of the linear EQ, you can boost the bass and the highs (low shelf/high shelf basically) and the intermodulation from the bass in the signal will make the highs "ripple". You can increase the amount of bass or highs in the exciter to accentuate this effect to perfection. Despite being quite quiet in isolation, this trick adds enormous perceived mass to any master bus, without really changing the bass, mids, or highs in any destructive way.

[@kasai1575]

I tried this out, and it sounds pretty cool! Can you explain what you mean by "intermodulation from the bass in the signal" though? I'm not sure I understand why the effect happens as you've described it.

[@SiliconPrairie]

@@kasai1575 Essentially, the distortion caused by the dominant low frequency of the kick is compressing the submissive high frequency content in the slightly boosted high end. The peak of the kick phase is when the signal is being compressed the most, so it's almost like applying a tremolo effect to the highs at the frequency of the kick.

[@mleuc]

this! strait facts

[@inlinescreamer]

​@@SiliconPrairie When I read your comment the first thing that popped into my head was the Robbert van der Helm spectral compressor (because there is also a eq band gain curve) so I wonder if it does what you're describing

[@facundopitton9011]

Homie you just openeded a pandoras box on my mxing/producer heart

[@LaReverieMusic]

Pas mal! I don't really often see people trying things with Patcher, it's hard to realize how powerful this tool can be. It's litteraly the "craft your own addon" addon.

[@mleuc]

ngl it's not thaaaat powerful, what you are describing would be something like bitwig grid or max msp/plugdata. Patcher has so many fucking annoying issues but at the same time it's such a nice too for sure, i just whish they improved all the annoying things. A sure thing is that it's one of the thing that make me stay on fl as a primary daw, conveniance

[@ileryon4019]

@@mleuc patcher feels like a toy sand box and you are trying to put 20 green toy soldiers, and a real CAT tractor on top of it

[@mleuc]

@@ileryon4019 LOL yeah patcher is awesome to a degree and also so annoying on some others. neat tool anyway

[@PhilthAdelphiA]

Holy shit that sound is fucking powerful

[@mleuc]

it really is! ngl this is just scratching the surface of what you can do with nulling and all

[@whoskryo]

@@mleuc OMG VOCODERS

[@mleuc]

@@whoskryo you cant really nulls vocoder because of all the phase shift from the bandpass they use. however you can achive similar effects from spectral contrast or sooth delta mode stuff. exciter only on the resonances, or only on the noise part all that

[@ileryon4019]

you are very creative using an EQ to freepass phase cancelation!

[@Breakstuff5050]

Nice, I can see alot of ways of using this with different effects. Thanks!

[@mleuc]

glad if it's helpful!

[@43tss]

Wow. Gotta look at the exciters, it's amazing! Like + sub!

[@mleuc]

thank uu! hope it'll be useful

[@kimjonesplugup]

this is insane

[@digitaltrash_]

Au5 liked this video

[@jshstuff]

nice nice I like

[@mleuc]

hope it's going to be useful!

[@Klimexetixs]

Cool af!

[@mleuc]

thanks!

[@donked]

Nice 🎉

[@thiloswift8035]

make it in box and upload a video so i just have to put in your preset ^^

[@mleuc]

maybe i'll release some racks and m4l/plugdata patches in the future but i dont care much atm for several reasons. just takes a few clicks to do, and the important part is not really the patch but the concept of it, so do your own with the tools you like, test some stuff and you might find something cool

[@lukemayo5672]

Isnt this the same as having a bp or hp and then sending the result into distortion?

[@bixenter]

will be the same just limited to that shape. With the shown way you can have a complex curve. You still will need to have a difference split after the BP/HP to have a feature author talking about.

[@mleuc]

yes and no it's like saying isnt a bandpass the same as a full on parametric eq, even outside of this context. if it was people would just use bandpass instread of eq. the real interest here is on one side how precise you can be because of the parametric eq, and on the other the bit interest is that it's customisable af, so you can do it with whatever tools you want in whatever setups, there is much much more you can do with this concept than what i'm sharing in this video

[@bixenter]

Why do you use Fruity Send for the path?

[@kasai1575]

If you want to combine two signals in patcher, you have to send them through a plugin. So Fruity Send basically just serves as a blank plugin to combine the signals from the inverted signal and the EQ'd signal.

[@mleuc]

@@kasai1575 you said everything!

[@bixenter]

@@mleuc I know, I just use FL Balance for that usually. I thought maybe you know if it's better on CPU.

[@mleuc]

@@bixenter i dont think so, it's just that it's the one that takes the less space visually for me

[@bixenter]

@@mleuc well, FL Balance is smaller. But I use FL Balance for this merge path cases cuz it maybe slightly less CPU then Send or Panomatic. I am not 100% certain tho.

[@JesseQuinn]

Je ne comprende pas 😂 Show me how this can be used. I don’t understand the point of creating random glitchy sounds. I like how skilled you are at Parcher though, I haven’t dug into it myself

[@Mopark25]

Experiment! Use this technique on your own sounds and see if you like it

[@mleuc]

on one side it's really useful to add content in a frequency range really precisely. this could be just to make a signal noiser and richer or lil more agressive souding. Or just to fix an issue, ever was in the position where you need more of a freq range on a sound but eq makes it sound worst? exciters might be your solution, with this setup you can build one with any plugin you like, which mean you'll get different results from the premade options you can find on the market that works in similar ways On the other side just do whatever the fuck you want with it haha, random glichy noise are cool if you want to make random glitchy music, boost the subs and the highs like crazy and you'll get really crunchy top end layer, create a big peak and see how some resonances will get picked by it and distort in a cool abrasive way... it's up to you at the end of the day

[@Francisco12G]

1:46 if you dont mind the phase shift but don't want the boost sound you can do cuts instead

[@mleuc]

@@Francisco12G I'm not sure what you mean. If you mean emphasis deamphasis, this trick is meant to avoid having to do that, cause afaik reaper is the only daw capable of doing it well with mapping 2 eqs with opposite parameters

[@Francisco12G]

No I don't mean e​mphasis/deemphasis. I mean instead of doing a boost you do a cut. There will still be a difference (won't cancel what you are cutting) and you could isolate just that part of the spectrum and distort it the same way you do with a boost but without the added boost sound@@mleuc

[@mleuc]

@@Francisco12G no it will be the same, tho the boost will be phase flipped by 180, so partially canceling with the untouched signal that doesnt go through the distortion stage. So it wont give exactly the same result

[@Francisco12G]

@@mleuc it doesn't give the same result with or without distortion or any other effect. Phase is also related to gain, that's why if it's not the same volume it doesn't cancel perfectly. With that said silence is the result of cancellation but that doesn't mean the signal it's not there! You should try it!

[@Francisco12G]

My apologies, I've been experimenting with only working with the delta signal and when you blend with the original you get the expected result with a cut or a boost as you said. I also noticed you are using linear phase eqs! Sorry for the mess. Cheers

[@Nortsan197]

can i have ur fl theme

[@mleuc]

sure, not sure how i can share tho

[@StanleyKubick1]

why do you have an english title on a french video? I can't understand anything

[@Tyla_C0]

He’s speaking English mate…

[@mleuc]

broken english moment, i have hope for it to improve but unfortunately i'm french

[@Tyla_C0]

@@mleuc your English is fine. He’s just daft.

[@2L3L]

@@mleuc dw your english is quite good they just hating fr, i can understand you perfectly well seems like these phase cancellation tricks do well on youtube; i have a video on a pretty similar technique and it did really well too, glad this kind of thing is spreading more 🙏

[@mleuc]

@@2L3L I know but for real french people are so bad at english in general and I was pretty terrible at it for the longest time, basically around 3 years ago I was unable to build a coherent sentence, it's getting better over time but I still have quite a lot of room to improve, esp when it comes to prononciation and expressing more subtle ideas I don't necessarily have the vocabulary for yet

[@EDWIN_dpt]

crazy