How to Turn Sea Water Into Fresh Water Without Pollution | Earth Explained!

[@terramater]

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[@Madasin_Paine]

Why is Arabia so arid in the first place? How much drier and hotter will it get? Before trying to change something old, *_KNOW$_* its prior history well. ©®Î$P® V$ DN∆ K$∆ V$ Desert Burroughs Well ©ome to the Future ™ today!

[@edwardroche2480]

A nuclear power plant need water to operate if the water's all gone well so is the nuclear power plant

[@gregorydamario7977]

@@Madasin_Paine WTF? I am certain that the other three people in the world who live with you in your mom's basement, understand this group created nano-language, but if you are trying to convince, explain or even just communicate with people who don't cohabitate in your insular microworld, you are not getting your point across. "K$^ V$ Desert" = Potassium Dollar change in (space) Velocity Dollar (space) Desert. Sure, who doesn't understand that bit of enlightenment? You crafted your first two questions in basic English, but the drugs started creeping into your third sentence and became more prevalent thereafter. What are you trying to say? You could be a genius and I might agree with you if I knew what you intended to express. Let me take a stab at interpreting your final sentence. "(Edgar Rice?) Burroughs (reference to Martian deserts?) Well (a water source?) File copyright (or File come [that's a mixed signal]) to the Future (trademarked because it refers to "Back to the Future"?) today. Nevermind. No idea what you want to say.

[@hildebertocarreiro9232]

Dehumidifiers right over the ocean

[@hildebertocarreiro9232]

Solar dome oh lot sea salt.

[@jaridkeen123]

Why not just pump the brine into large pools and let the rest of the water evaporate and they can sell the salt.

[@bewertsam]

Copying my reply to a similar question here. To my knowledge it just creates salt flats. The moisture is carried away by the same air currents that don’t allow moisture to gather there in the first place

[@jaridkeen123]

@@bewertsam yeah but you can then mine the salt and sell the salt and the desalinated water is also sold.

[@decus9544]

@@jaridkeen123 My thoughts too. Also the evaporated water from the brine still has some value, it will still increase local humidity and rainfall levels a bit and so help local vegetation growth, which should firm up the soil and help prevent sandstorms.

[@Ersiiin]

@@bewertsam moisture can be collected via high tech nets

[@passerby4507]

It's a problem of scale. Do you remember their largest desalination plant? 1.4mil cubic meter of brine a day. Just imagine that for a moment. Suppose you spread it out into 1cm deep pools, you now have 140 square km of brine. For reference, that's like 1/5 of New York City.

[@marjorietrahan7136]

I just did a project about desalination and we found another method called microbial desalination. It uses bacteria to exrtract the salt while generating electricity! Its amazing! There is supposed to be a pilot of this in spain if I remember corectly!

[@john5155]

2 Rs

[@louisegogel7973]

Sounds like Permaculture principles at work! Awesome.

[@kwadwoadufo1034]

Wow,this is interesting,give me more information to follow up.Thanks

[@sunitadwarka347]

You better submit your project to king of saudi Arabia. We can use it for brine. Namh shivay.

[@suprimoklk8740]

Can you please name the place or project I want to know more thanks!

[@VluggeJapie22]

This is such an underrated channel. Please don't stop. I have shown multiple video's to my students in class. Some were fascinated and gave lectures about some subjects to their fellow students, I was so proud! Kids hold our future!!!

[@1O1neTake]

Good luck teaching sir!

[@VluggeJapie22]

@@1O1neTake Thanks, kids are the future in my opinion!! Oops just realized I already said that.😂

[@lenafromterramater3690]

Wow we are indeed honoured to hear that! We will keep up with producing new and informative videos! 😊because #terramatters 🌍🌏🌎

[@emmanuelsamuels2470]

No

[@jonathangarzon2798]

You actually believe this is good? Bet you live in a city far away from any ecosystem you destroy

[@jenr111]

Being a retired working historian, I've had to do my share of reading about water, water rights, water wars, water sales, water shortages and the impending water crises. Your video was a grim reminder of an ever more critical future.

[@gubjorgm.2259]

I really hope that this works and won't harm the sea more. If it works then this could help so many places.

[@James-sk4db]

Turn the Sahara into a rainforest. Captures more carbon than all the world combined except China produces.

[@gubjorgm.2259]

@Chris Sigurdsson It's going well I guess. Weather is funky as always. Global warming is getting more and more obvious here. Stupid people going to the volcano with no proper gear and masks. People suing the country for making them do quarantine when they get here. Stuff like that. I really wished that a volcano would erupt so that no more airplanes could come, but turns out it's so small that it has no effect on that and in stead we get more tourists. WHY CAN'T WE JUST CLOSE THE BORDERS!!! Ps. How did you know I understood danish?

[@litresdomines1356]

@@gubjorgm.2259 held að við tölum bara svo mikla dönsku við dani. Btw hæ annar Íslendingur hahahha

[@ggoddkkiller1342]

It will produce water much cheaper for sure but it will produce brine as well. It is just a total BS they can use the brine as it would cost many times more than producing water so it will be dumped back into the ocean.

[@gubjorgm.2259]

@@litresdomines1356 var ekki að búast við annan íslending. Ég veit að við erum kent dönsku en nánast allir hata döndku og skil hana ekki. Ég er bara heppin að ég ólst up út í danmörku. Ég heyri oft að þau hata allt tengt danmörku og ég horfi á þeim og þau segja altaf "ó já ég gleymdi að þú átti heima þar. Þú ert allt í lagi" XD

[@jjc5475]

water in holland comes from sea water that is pumped into dunes. and inland, from rain water that is collected in nature reserves and lakes.

[@lenafromterramater3690]

This is really an interesting story, thank you John for sharing this with the community! It is really important to be aware of the water situation in your home country!💧🚰

[@woutijland4983]

Yeah in the Holland’s Maybe in Overijssel and the other inland provinces it comes from de ground

[@aarondewindt]

Except in the Caribbean municipality (the BES islands), where it's produced from desalination.

[@sleekoduck]

My uncle said it came from the sewer treatment plant in Amsterdam.

[@AMZZZMA]

yeah, it's possible because your sea salinity is low.

[@fer1847]

Economic problem 2:19 - Byproduct 2:49 - Saudi Arabia and desalination plants 4:19 - Solar dome 6:08 - Brine 7:03

[@pewlivepie5006]

What Tickers to invest in? I am going all in.

[@touristofsongs4946]

Brime*

[@yan7789]

6:58: “it reduces amount of brine” - how can it reduce it without just making it more concentrated? It doesn’t make sense… they just extract water from salty water so the amount of salt left behind stays constant…

[@terramater]

Thanks for the chapters! ;-) I hope you don't mind if we use them in the video? BTW: if you're interested in how to deal with water scarcity in the American West, we made a couple of videos about this recently. Have a look: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfWgKeDrL-mpJY

[@toneyeye]

This concept makes a lot of sense to me, I always wondered why variations of it are not already in use. The brine can be fed to an artificial lake to evaporate and the salt deposits harvested for other uses.

[@anneeq008]

I've also wondered why people haven't continuously tried to innovate in desalination tech for the whole of human civilization. We've used various wheels: particularly water wheels, dams. But nobody thought of boiling the sea water then condensing it?! Nobody tried running the water through rocks and tried mimicking the natural process? I find this so odd..... Especially that we thought of digging miles below before we thought of trying to capture and process water in abundance that's directly infront of us 🤔🤦‍♂️

[@danielcreatd872]

@@anneeq008 Desalination isn't complicated, but it's still too energy-intensive.

[@veramae4098]

Try this: Drill a tunnel from Mediterranean Sea to Dead Sea (which is much lower). Fill the tunnel with hydroelectric generators. (And of course lots of fail safes.) Water evaporates from huge new Dead Sea (now alive), winds carry it west to Jordan's mountains. Rain. Huge amounts of green electricity. Jordan shares fresh water with Israel, Israel share electricity with Jordan (and sell it to everyone else). I first heard this idea in college when my physics class had a guest. Guy said he "ride shared" with other physics teachers, they worried at the Middle East's problems, then decided to try and find something that could be done. This is such a strange idea ... it might change everything.

[@yggdrasil9039]

Egypt should flood the Qattara Depression. That would increase rainfall over the country and allow natural ecosystems to do the work of desalination for it.

[@KingfisherTalkingPictures]

Check out the Salton Sea.

[@scoobiusmaximus9508]

@@KingfisherTalkingPictures the main issue with the salton sea is that it got flooded once by accident and has been drying up ever since. If there was actually a way to replenish the water loss it would have been fine.

[@rasheedrehman4694]

Good idea because under ground sources of fresh water will also increase.

[@yggdrasil9039]

@@KingfisherTalkingPicturesSalton Sea is completely different. Qattara depression project would have a permanent connection to the Mediterranean sea. The Salton Sea has no connection to anything and will eventually dry up unless it is refilled.

[@beka7989]

@@yggdrasil9039 The whole Mediterranean Sea would dry up if no Atlantic Water would flow in. We humans have the brain capacities to make all deserts on this globe green, but we abuse this planets recources to make local and global wars, and without war we destroy those already green parts of planet into deserts, so instead of paying scientists to develop ways to make regions habitable, we pay scientists to develop ways to make regions inhabitable. Scientists should stop work for those satanic politicians giving them orders to destroy this planets recources. They need something like hippocratic promise to use their knowledge only for healing and helping, never for killing and destruction.

[@bruceallen6492]

Being a retired engineer, I would like to see these many water projects work across the globe since they offer a promise of solving more problems besides water. How do engineers get involved in such projects?

[@adamhigh9888]

Engineers without Borders is a fantastic organization, though I doubt many of the projects they work on would involve such scale. They mostly focus on providing standard engineering services in areas of the world that might not otherwise be able to afford it.

[@bruceallen6492]

@@adamhigh9888 sounds fun! thank you.

[@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuywxyz1]

If your White & Western you’ll 100% be able to find a job in Saudi as in engineer. If you’ve also got a crackpot plan that nobody in their right mind would fund they’ll do that for you too!

[@llskitll]

@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuywxyz1 lol I’m going to be a process engineer and that’s where I wanna end up

[@MouldyCheesePie]

You would like to see engineers work on less important issues?

[@michaelcarey1040]

I also had this idea on a more simple scale. Shallow black pond with greenhouse plastic over it. Water piped up in black tubing heated by the sun/sand. Also a few steps beyond this desalination plant. Build a community center at each desalination plant for people to come fetch fresh water. Composting toilets are built here. Humanure is then used as a medium to plant jatropha plants. Jatropha is a berry shrub that grows well in droughts and desert conditions. Its berries contain 70% oil. The locals are encouraged to pick the jatropha berries where they can exchange them at the community center for staples. An on-site low tech processing center (think stepping on grapes for wine) presses oil and packages it for sale as a global commodity to be used as biodiesel/ jatropha oil. This is a low tech and low cost plan for helping to reverse desertification in Africa (or similar barren lands with ample heat and salt water).

[@marencruickshank]

Smart idea

[@CrakenFlux]

lets have water for the animals, as well.... no one is looking at this, and it is precisely the lack of respect and love for our native planet that got us in the mess we are in now... add to that the uncontrolled population.

[@michaelcarey1040]

@Dan Beech pump out salt brine as needed (probably once a week/ maintenance). Could be left in a kiddie pool type concrete pad to be dried/ scraped and collected. Or left in place and ocean water stopped pumping in until brine dried into salt and collected.. Or pumped back into ocean to help correct the low salt levels of the ocean

[@edwardjennings5070]

And we still can't seem to realize how much we need each other

[@seanstreck3226]

I wrote a paper about this in college during my undergrad in 2013. I actually think that the byproducts are worth more money Then the water itself. I did some pretty extensive napkin math and the one big problem with this process is that Is relatively large amounts of area are required to provide sufficient heat. The maximum reliable energy from the sun is about 400 watt/square meter. 20c sea water takes 4184 j/kg or 334720 joules just to warm 1L of water enough to vaporize at 100C. So to vaporize 1L of water per second, you would need 334720/400 = 29 meters square (a 100ft by 100ft bay of parabolic mirrors). A 1 mile by 1 mile field of mirrors would provide 2.56 million square meters of focused light or 3k L/Sec of vaporized water. That's about 100k L/hr or 1.2 million litres per 12 hours of sun. That's a nice number but then you realize people use 200L/day on average or more and you're not even at your 1 million people supported with an absolute gargantuan undertaking.

[@1800levso]

that's true, but those 200L don't just disappear together. some of it can be re-used.

[@DavidElzeitsinfill]

Understanding the problem so we can understand the solution. Regional mega drought in the southwest, caused by a lot of things but essentially more water is being used and is in one way or another moved out of the region then the amount of water that is re-entered into the region. Conservation has its place but it is not a solution to this problem. The demands on water will not abate without causing complete collapse so the only alternative is to introduce a new source of water. Drawing water from other regional rivers like the Columbia or the Mississippi or Missouri would only move the problem around, draining other regions. The only essentially inexhaustible source of water is the ocean. One thing we need to do is move water from the ocean back inland to places we need it and if we can do that while generating clean energy we have a chance to mitigate climate change and still have a prosperous future. It is really, really hard but it is not impossible. If I could explain my idea in an equation it would go something like. (seawater from the west coast moved inland + converted by combination geothermal/desalination projects = clean water and clean energy.) The biggest idea I am trying to express is tunneling aqueducts from the coast, in this case the west coast of the USA inland to feed combination geothermal power and sea water desalination plants. The idea seems to be so big that no one has considered it possible but I believe it is not only possible but it is necessary. For over a century the fossil water contained in aquifers has been pumped out to feed agriculture, industry and municipal water needs. The natural water cycle cant refill fossil water deposits that were filled 10,000 years ago when the glaciers melted after the last ice age. Without refilling these aquifers there is not much of a future for the region of the United states. As a result ground levels in some areas of the San Joaquin Valley have subsided by more than 30 feet. Similar fossil water depletion is happening in other regions all around the world. TBM and tunneling technology has matured and further developments in the industry are poised to speed up the tunneling process and it's these tunnels that are the only way to move large volumes of water from the ocean inland. The water is moved inland to areas where it can be desalinated in geothermal plants producing clean water and power. In many cases the water will recharge surface reservoirs where it will be used first to make more hydro power before being released into rivers and canal systems. It's very important however to not stop tunneling at these first stops but to continue several legs until the water has traveled from the ocean under mountain ranges to interior states. Along the way water will flow down grade through tunnels and rise in geothermal loops to fill mountain top pumped hydro batteries several times before eventually recharging several major aquifers. What I am proposing is essentially reversing the flow of the Colorado River Compact. Bringing water from the coast of California first to mountaintop reservoirs then to the deserts of Nevada and Arizona and on to Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming. This big idea looks past any individual city or states problems and looks at the whole and by using first principles identifies the actual problem and only solution. Thank you for your time, I would like the opportunity to explain in further detail and answer any questions.

[@alancadieux2984]

The fake royalty likes to look wise. He thinks because he has oil money that he is king 💩. What you wrote makes sense, it examines the engineering challenges. Certainly it can be done. One thing that could help alot, is how people use water, this could be much more efficient than it is now. Another problem is govt perceived control of all resources, the WEF has been working on taking complete control of all resources for 51 years so far, now they are accelerating their evil plans. You won't even be able to grow your own vegetables in your own garden without them knowing about it, and paying them for permission to do so. Remember, they are deceived enough by the devil to think that they own the genetics in those vegetables, and so, if you aren't paying them royalties on the ones that you grow, well then, with every morsel of food you eat, they will own one more little piece of you...until in their mind, they will own you completely. This applies to fresh clean drinking water too...

[@thechloromancer3310]

Sure, but the desert is nothing if not cheap real-estate. Finding land for these projects is not going to be a large problem for Saudi Arabia. Even the more heavily populated California has huge tracks of unused desert land that can be used to house such projects.

[@chipandchap100]

400 watt/square now ... Climate change will increase that number right? Will 500 watt/square change your calculation much?

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

I hope this method of turning sea water into fresh water works. After the debacle that was those big ass artificial islands in Dubai, I am a bit skeptical. But here's hoping, it'd certainly be pretty neat!

[@lenafromterramater3690]

Indeed - this would be amazing! 💧🚰

[@shahrukhkhan8307]

half of Netherlands is reclaimed from the sea. UAE didn't do anything unusual

[@yucol5661]

@@shahrukhkhan8307 it was a debacle because many didn’t finish construction after the 2008 financial crisis. It’s more about the failure rather than it being a new idea

[@avshockey6633]

I don't see why it wouldn't work. They are basically running a giant still that produces water instead of alcohol, and the sun is providing the heat. Seems like it would be pretty easy in the middle of the freakin desert.

[@alexxans1154]

@@avshockey6633 the problem is not that I would not work. The design is so simple that it's guaranteed to work. The problem is that it might produce way too little water, the fact that it only works during the day and the cost of construction. We will have to see how it fares.

[@Zaihanisme]

I’m from Singapore and here we rely mostly on rainwater collected in about 11/12 reservoirs, with attached water treatment facilities, supplemented with raw water sold by our neighbour, the state of Johor in Malaysia, that is treated here and sold back to them at a discount. Together these make up 60% of the freshwater we get. One third is being supplied with recycled water, branded as NEWater, that is basically highly-treated reclaimed wastewater. It’s mixed in with the above for general supply, or provided as hyper-clean water for specific industrial use. The remaining one-tenth is from desalination, utilising the reverse osmosis process. The use of RO membranes in both reclaimed and desalinated water here was the result of extensive research to solve the issues of water scarcity for this tiny island city state. I do worry about where the hypersaline brine goes, and even the byproducts of wastewater reclamation. There’s not much clarity about what is done with either here. A project like the solar dome wouldn’t be quite possible here due to the lack of space, though it could be setup on one of our smaller islands, but obviously on smaller scales. The best solution would still be to improve our urbanscape to greatly increase the water catchment area, and hold water in the environment for longer, thus prolonging the journey of water to the reservoirs, and reduce losses via evaporation. With an average annual rainfall of 2400 mm, we’re not short of water gifted by the skies above, just need to be better at catching, storing and more mindfully using all of it, so we don’t need expensive and problematic technologies, or an occasionally petty neighbour, to depend on. Perhaps you can do a video on water catchment methodologies that more urban areas should adopt?

[@alilm3283]

Do you need treatment facilities for rainwater? I understand that because of land scarcity you cannot store all the water you need despite the generous amount you get from rain. It's not possible to work a good agreement with either of your two neighbors, Malaysia or Indonesia, to get natural water from their dams. It's a non-sense that you get some of your water through desalination.

[@TheThorns]

solar water plans to complete in 2021. So did they finish it? does it work?

[@thripples1]

I live in rural northern New South Wales and for many here, 2019 was a worse year than 2020. We had a widespread years-long drought, but 2019 broke us with only about 30mm of rain over 6 months. There were dust bowls, the landscape looked Martian. We're on a table-lands, 1000m above sea level, so desalination is out of the question... so water was being trucked in daily to communities for months. 2020 and 2021 have been blessings here... rains have come, dams are filled. Water security is a pressing issue in most parts of Australia, but it's a challenging issue to solve in such a large, dry and sparsely populated country with challenging geography.

[@terramater]

Wow. Thank you for this interesting & informative local insight.

[@thripples1]

@@terramater you're welcome :) the 2019/2020 drought and subsequent bushfires were particularly nasty. For a bit more insight into Australia... we have some awesome existing water infrastructure projects like the "drought proofing" of South East Queensland and the Perth-Kalgoorlie pipeline, the controversial Tasmanian dams and Snowy River scheme, but we have some politically-popular, white elephant projects which promise to secure water too... the Bradfield scheme promises to divert the annual flood waters of North Queensland through the Great Divide into rivers that would eventually flow into the Murray-Darling basin. Another crazy scheme is to dig a canal from the Spencer gulf to the below sea-level Lake Eyre to open up an inland sea for more moisture 😅. Both are unfeasible and would be environmentally harmful (at this point), but they're examples of desperate solutions to people with a constant and desperate need for more water. What I find particularly interesting though is how our local Aboriginal people moulded and worked with the land and how even in the dryest of times, the artesian basins would provide. We have a lot to learn here :)

[@htoodoh5770]

Lol, never knew 2020 can be positive considering all the other shitting things that happen.

[@thripples1]

@@htoodoh5770 we've been hardly affected by the pandemic here... only about a dozen cases in the whole region about a year ago. 2020 was a much better year locally than 2019... especially for introverts 😊

[@htoodoh5770]

@@thripples1 I am sure it was pleasant for most introvert at least for a while.

[@totalrecall4289]

First time i see video about my country in English without involving politics Thank you

[@lenafromterramater3690]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@phanCAbe]

You mean a video that *ignores* politics. It doesn't matter what you think it's a fact that MBS murdered someone knowing that the most corrupt US president in modern history wouldn't say anything. Your oil is your saving grace, always remember that.

[@samsmith4242]

@@phanCAbe dude...not cool

[@laguci7718]

@@phanCAbe Your nuclear and missile is your saving grace. Always remember that.

[@bobbycarr408]

Politics has a way of messing up a good thing. People are very similar around the word. It’s the politicians who cause the strife

[@Jolmood]

I am from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦. Thank you man for the good accurate coverage of the whole situation. In addition to the solar dome we have already installed machines that draws water from the humidity of the air and cool it down for human consumption in NEOM. The machine serves water for the people for free.

[@Art-uz3fk]

What you are describing is a dehumidifier and it used a signify amount of energy because it relies on a refrigerant loop

[@Jolmood]

@@Art-uz3fk It’s solar powered, produces 52l/d to over 5000l/d (that’s $0.03/l) and it’s equipped with a disinfection and ceramic filter units. This is not your commercial dehumidifier, it was built to be scalable and sustainable.

[@garybulwinkle82]

Calling this green is really deceptive, and removing water from sea water will produce brine or increased salinity. It is more efficient but far from free! Just because someone else is paying does not make it free; it still requires energy to function. You can't get something from nothing!!

[@bwa5818]

@@garybulwinkle82 There are very few places in the world where people drink water for free. In England I could catch, store and filter rain but there is still a significant capital cost plus on going maintenance costs, therefore, it is important to try different approaches. It seems that the effluent issues are still the biggest drawback.

[@knightara]

@@garybulwinkle82 Saudi Arabia is the 13th largest country with the largest continuous sandy desert in the world. Also has one of the largest area covered by constant sunshine = solar power= free energy. It also has a leading company that produces solar panels. As for brine we could just fill some of the empty desert with it and make an artificial brine lake and use it for other manufacturing purposes.

[@terramater]

Saudi Arabia is working on a green solution to provide a new city in the desert with water. What about you? Where do you live? Is there enough fresh water in your region and do you know where the water in your tap comes from? (Not knowing where your water comes from is also an interesting answer for us. 😉) We'd love to create future episodes on water topics across the world and we're looking forward to your answers!

[@zainalii]

In our home, water comes straight from ground by pumping water motor.

[@vikasprajapati4045]

I live in Delhi i don't how water come In delhi what is processing and mechanism .please do video on delhi highly densely populated capital . azadpur in delhi. south Asia's biggest market for vegetables how mismanaged the waste food

[@DAEDRICDUKE1]

@@vikasprajapati4045 that would be cool

[@chickeenisfriday4116]

Mix brine with shit water then pump it back. Poop is mostly water and they can crack down on bad foods that effect our shit

[@sn5301679]

We have seasonal flood and keep polluting the water here in indonesia 🤣

[@MikSrf723]

I literally thought if this as a child. Nice to see my ideas weren't just daydreams.

[@ranjitsharma5811]

You're not alone!

[@misteraplikasi896]

@@ranjitsharma5811 i was going to say that

[@davestanton3822]

Same

[@peterlustig6888]

Yes, extremly easy solution. I dont know why they didnt build it earlier. Maybe using oil was even cheaper.

[@ranjitsharma5811]

@@peterlustig6888 in the short term, yes In the long term, hell no

[@WhatWeDoChannel]

I’m blessed to live on the Great Lakes! I think in the past we haven’t always treated this incredible resource with the care we should.

[@rafetizer]

You can bet the more arid and thirsty portions of the country are hungrily eying the great lakes.

[@charlesfrank7854]

I seen a kid just throw a plastic bottle right out his window at a red light,we need to teach everyone not to litter , we already got plastic in our water and other Hazzardous waste .

[@probitionate]

@@rafetizer As a Canuck, I'd respond to your suggestion simply: "No." There are myriad reasons why, but I think the place to start is the unfathomabletomost size of the country. In my province alone, I can drive for twenty-four hours from the south-east point to get to its diagonal cousin at the north-west corner.

[@rafetizer]

@@probitionate I'm not suggesting it, some western states have already tossed out the idea.

[@khsh99]

Living in the desert is hard for most of the people but ones u r used to it .... Its like living in heaven.

[@ronen160]

I live on Long Island in NY, USA. we are surrounded by (undrinkable) water. The abundance of seawater is so extreme it's difficult to understand just how much salt water covers the earth. I'm sure that the components of the brine can be reduced to their most basic elements and used to fill a need for other products etc. if the brine is just evaporated in an open field, the water vapor will go into the atmosphere, and the salt and minerals can be broken down (with solar and wind energy)

[@grimaffiliations3671]

vote Hochul

[@zephyrprime]

The primary remainder is sodium chloride (salt). It's not useful to break that down since there is little use for sodium and chlorine is poisonous. Also, current industrial processes produce a big excess of chlorine anyway. The good news is that you don't even really need to bother with breaking it down. All the freshwater just goes back into the ocean anyway eventually so you can just dump the concentrated brine back into the ocean with no ill effects so long as it is distributed over a wide area.

[@shanewhaler]

i am very interested in finding out the results of this project.

[@Greenskies321]

My water comes from the local pub but is contaminated with yeast and fermented grain 😅

[@johnorenick9026]

You know that people--including kids--drank, at least, "small beer" (low alcohol) for breakfast, lunch, and (maybe high-alcohol ales for) dinner, all through middle-ages Europe, and especially England? They weren't smart enough to not urinate and defecate in their water supply, so disease was rampant, and even 3.2% pisswater lite beer has enough alcohol to kill bacteria. Yeast and grain are a tasty way to un-contaminate water. Three cheers for yeast and barley!

[@1969cmp]

😁😂🤣

[@garyjohnson5710]

I prefer the distillation process and it always tastes like Jack Daniels

[@obviousness8113]

Same! 😁 Cheers 🍻

[@obviousness8113]

@Mark Jenkins Proud infidel 🙂

[@svntn]

really happy to live in Canada, with perfectly clean and tasty tap water and drinkable water in the lake in my backyard. can’t imagine how hard life must be without this privilege.

[@Linkwii64]

Lucky.

[@regolith1350]

“How long have you had this tumor?” “I first noticed it shortly after I started drinking the lake water.”

[@Jojomojo202]

@@regolith1350 true

[@shmo3723]

our lake ontario is polluted as ever . Thank god for filters.

[@svntn]

@@shmo3723 i live about 6 hours north of montreal. there’s barely any pollution in our lakes. specific lakes are crazy polluted, but most have really clean water.

[@CanadianPrepper]

Making water with oil and pumping brine back into the ocean... what could go wrong?

[@willemvanoranje5724]

sadge

[@lili-ke6dp]

*sigh* most of saudi's solution to shortages can worsen the environmental crisis that we already have

[@willemvanoranje5724]

@@lili-ke6dp that nation will collapse in the future tho, they got nothing, they are a giant sand bank, without oil revenues, they will go extinct.

[@JOHNSMITH-if9jr]

nothing

[@benjamingayle970]

I live in rural Jamaica. I live mostly on stored rain water. You see the national water commission is unable to supply water adequately throughout the year. Heavy rains cause turbidity in the water supply to the water treatment plant and so the plant is unable to produce at full capacity. The other problem is drought when the natural resovoir which supports the water treatment plant goes so low that the plant is below full capacity again. Also the terrain approaching the area where I live is hilly makin it difficult for the available pressure to overcome and reach us. What makes it tricky for me is that sometimes it only rains in the resovior area so I dont get to harvest any rain water. So I live at mercy of the rain and the inefficient water treatment plant.

[@jaymacpherson8167]

I sincerely hope for effective desal. Yet the ideas too often ignore that sea water has more than salt, it has organisms too. Separating the salts and minerals from the organic matrix and simply keeping the infrastructure clean are also challenges to overcome.

[@edwardhanson3664]

What will you do with all the salt. There will be megatons of salt piling up everywhere. You can't put it back in the ocean.

[@jaymacpherson8167]

@@edwardhanson3664 you think the mass of salt humans could extract from the oceans (and put back in) is significant to the mass already there and also added continually at vents? Besides, removing the salt via sea water and returning it is a mass balance, not an addition.

[@ChrisMuehlberger60]

@@jaymacpherson8167 the eco system where the brine is put back in can be damaged

[@jaymacpherson8167]

@@ChrisMuehlberger60 Right, so return it where damage is minimal. Many organisms adapt to the vents where plates spread. They will adapt where the brine is returned. There is a difference between blindly causing gross damage and admitting we are affecting the environment wherever we touch.

[@ChrisMuehlberger60]

@@jaymacpherson8167 the question is how costly is it to pump it into areas where it doesn't matter

[@mwj5368]

Salt is also an electrolyte and I imagine they can find ways to use salt in that manner too, also make salt a valuable resource. Lithium is very valuable and could maybe be extracted from the brine before it is pooled.

[@Berek71182]

Salt + Saltwater can be used to block radiantion from radioactive waste. So killing off fossil fouls for a mix of reneable eneergy and atomic eneergy may do the trick.

[@nz560]

I belive it s the natural process in atacama desert in Bolivia. Actually the salt is lithium, which is a good business

[@samyoungblood3740]

I love this!! Start saving all water during wet or rainy season, that added to the desalination program would help tremendously! Back in the 60’s Buckminster Fuller wanted to put a geodesic dome over a city! To help lower carbon footprint, to help decrease energy use, promote year round growing season! Why not try it-as well as build cities underground like Derinkuyu.

[@Kiyoone]

Japan enters the chat: Do you want my water? have a lots already in tanks :) I was just thinking about dispose them...

[@oneshothunter9877]

Greenland blending in: Our water has build up 3500 meters above sealevel.

[@VishalJdhv]

Ha ha..I see wat u did there..Fukushima water

[@ggoddkkiller1342]

@@oneshothunter9877 Im 100% sure it isn't 3500 meters anymore...

[@ashketchum5466]

fukushima water

[@edschultheis9537]

If you market it well, you might just run into a shortage of it. Fukushima water... A glass in the morning and a glass in the evening will leave you simply GLOWING!

[@iguanapete3809]

The salt should be made into bricks to build homes. It can be covered with stucco.

[@crayfish7542]

@ Iguana Pete says; " The salt should be made into bricks to build homes " ! But what about When " The Cattle " come for " The Salt " ! 🐱‍🐉 🐱‍🏍

[@nandagopalmotog6897]

Move over lithium ion,sodium ion batteries also work.

[@Orange_Jewlius]

@@gurugreat5663 What is the use in disposal? Wouldn't effort into recycling the batteries create a more sustainable and beneficial use for the waste?

[@wymple09]

@@gurugreat5663 Hot metal batteries are going to eventually put lithium ion out of business for large scale work.

[@fixedgear808]

So, this is an industrial-size version of Zeltec’s water cone?

[@CYCLONE4499]

Fortunately I live next to one of the Great Lakes in the US so having fresh water isn't a problem yet but this tech is fascinating.

[@1971jwing]

That's special salt literally filled with precious metals. Thumbs up on the overall ideas. Super cool if other countries give it a try as well. It's getting hot lol.

[@theEt234]

What about desalination plants? Like with roots They would absorb minerals as the water flows into a pond and capture carbon as well.

[@happymama2793]

There are so many family salt business that would Love to have that brine

[@sharonjuniorchess]

I remember reading about a simple project that made tiny windmills planted offshore. The wind would turn the blades which flicked up droplets of water which would then evaporate and be absorbed into the air. When the wind reached the land and hit the local mountains it would condense as rain.

[@marthaelenacorral3042]

Offshore windmills would pose danger to marine life - so, it would be interesting to know about the design created to prevent harming the marine animals. :D

[@johnvelez3005]

It's worth a few marine lives

[@sharonjuniorchess]

@@marthaelenacorral3042 I was talking about tiny little fans the size of a kids hand windmill that floats on the surface. The wind blows across them and they scoop up water into the air a few inches above the surface where it evaporates. They can't hurt fishes cos they are floating on the surface. However I have seen turbines that are built to go under the surface and have circular blades that rotate like a turbine engine as the tide comes in and goes out that have a hole in the centre that allows any marine life to flow through without getting harmed.

[@marthaelenacorral3042]

@@sharonjuniorchess Thanks for the clarification. :D

[@antonimalachowski5262]

Isn't air above the sea already saturated with water vapor? If that's the case the droplets won't evaporate! It would only work in places where the air above the sea is dry.

[@oldcountryman2795]

When computer with micro-chips were invented we were promised flying cars, domed cities and colonies on the moon. What we got was Facebook, Twitter and morons staring at phones all day.

[@adriel1478]

And now, as our planet is dying, we're finally seeing some more advanced technologies sprout

[@jabariuswilliams9264]

@@adriel1478 “We’re so self-important. Everybody’s going to save something now. “Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails.” And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. Save the planet, we don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet. I’m tired of this shit. I’m tired of f-ing Earth Day. I’m tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is that there aren’t enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don’t give a shit about the planet. Not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They’re worried that some day in the future they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me. The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles … hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages … And we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet isn’t going anywhere. WE are! We’re going away. Pack your shit, folks. We’re going away. And we won’t leave much of a trace, either. Maybe a little Styrofoam … The planet’ll be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet’ll shake us off like a bad case of fleas. The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, ’cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed. And if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn’t share our prejudice toward plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn’t know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, “Why are we here?” Plastic… asshole.”

[@adriel1478]

@@jabariuswilliams9264 liberals are pathetic

[@laurafulop2486]

@@jabariuswilliams9264 that is Carlin’s text.

[@jabariuswilliams9264]

@@laurafulop2486 text alone fails to grant the consumer the same experience... you lose his cantor and emphasis, his comedic intonation and delivery... truly the best there’s ever been.

[@jatinG825]

Brine can be given to sea salt farms, reducing their time for getting more salt from evaporation as the brine would have more concentration of salt than normally putting the seawater to evaporate.

[@michaelvigil5321]

Yeah, honestly i have no idea why every documentary talks about the brine issue as if this isn't easy for a newborn to fix. Give brine to salt farmers, dilute the brine with ocean water before you release it, just pump the brine into a ecologically dead area in your mostly ecologically dead country. 3 easy options but it's such an impossible feat.

[@royjaber571]

Heck use it to clear snowy roads for countries like Russia etc..

[@zhunjiang5718]

@@michaelvigil5321 The transport cost for it probably exceeds the profit margin for those salt farmers.

[@michaelvigil5321]

@@zhunjiang5718 so make farms next to the plants... i mean salt farming isn't a technical wonder like modern agriculture, it's just sand hills separating pools of salt water. I can't imagine it would cost much to make new salt farms.

[@terramater]

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[@md.monoarulislam6666]

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[@juniorgardener4003]

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[@giving7389]

Salt bush

[@astroari]

I think this is a wonderful project. Brine solution can be used to dry by sunlight and produce salt like we produce sea water salt.

[@NOOBERGIRL]

Is there a possibility of turning those brine pools into massive salt water batteries?

[@DavidElzeitsinfill]

The biggest idea I am trying to express is tunneling aqueducts from the coast, in this case the west coast of the USA inland to feed combination geothermal power and sea water desalination plants. The idea seems to be so big that no one has considered it possible but I believe it is not only possible but it is necessary. For over a century the fossil water contained in aquifers has been pumped out to feed agriculture, industry and municipal water needs. The natural water cycle cant refill fossil water deposits that were filled 10,000 years ago when the glaciers melted after the last ice age. Without refilling these aquifers there is not much of a future for the region of the United states. As a result ground levels in some areas of the San Joaquin Valley have subsided by more than 30 feet. Similar fossil water depletion is happening in other regions all around the world. TBM and tunneling technology has matured and further developments in the industry are poised to speed up the tunneling process and it's these tunnels that are the only way to move large volumes of water from the ocean inland. The water is moved inland to areas where it can be desalinated in geothermal plants producing clean water and power. In many cases the water will recharge surface reservoirs where it will be used first to make more hydro power before being released into rivers and canal systems. It's very important however to not stop tunneling at these first stops but to continue several legs until the water has traveled from the ocean under mountain ranges to interior states. Along the way water will flow down grade through tunnels and rise in geothermal loops to fill mountain top pumped hydro batteries several times before eventually recharging several major aquifers. What I am proposing is essentially reversing the flow of the Colorado River Compact. Bringing water from the coast of California first to mountaintop reservoirs then to the deserts of Nevada and Arizona and on to Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming. This big idea looks past any individual city or states problems and looks at the whole and by using first principles identifies the actual problem and only solution. Thank you for your time, I would like the opportunity to explain in further detail and answer any questions. A better future is possible, David

[@adammijares9222]

I’ve answered this before. The main issue is the byproduct of desalination. Left over salt and how to dispose of it safely without destroying the ecosystem. People say, “well you can just use the salt”. Problem is, you’re going to produce more salt than you can use if every country starts to use desalination. I know this because when I was stationed in the navy for several years we would desalinate seawater on our ship when we ran out of fresh water in the Persian Gulf. We had evaporators designed strictly for that purpose. It’s also very slow and time consuming to make seawater drinkable. Another thing is, you can’t monitor and guarantee every country is going to follow safety protocols when disposing the brine and salt. I do know that if we don’t figure out something fast here in Western United States there’s going to be mass riots and millions of deaths when the water runs out. I’m in southern Arizona it’s hot, 90-118 degrees at least 7-8 months out of the year in my location. Several of our main rivers are drying up. It’ll probably be within this decade will start seeing a national emergency declared by our government that there’s no water for the entire southwest.

[@DavidElzeitsinfill]

@@adammijares9222 Political will is the biggest hurdle to accomplishing big projects. Especially in California and after blowing $100 billion on a high speed train to nowhere. I think it is obvious to most people that something drastic needs to be done to solve the water problem and that conservation only goes so fare. I would propose to fund the tunneling part of this solution with a system similar to the Permanent Wyoming Mineral Trust Fund is a type of permanent fund called a sovereign wealth fund (SWF). SWFs are typical government funding tools. They consist of investments and assets that the government is not allowed to cash out or deplete. However, while it can't touch the principal, the government normally has the right to spend any revenue these investments generate on appropriate functions and expenses. Each state, California, Nevada and Arizona and on to Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and of course Wyoming could place a small 2% tax on the energy sector and use those funds to invest in Geothermal energy projects and eventually the aqueduct can link up to those projects. There are already over 800 geothermal energy projects in California alone. The equation for my big solution is (ocean water brought inland through large underground aqueducts + combination geothermal and desalination plants = clean water and clean energy). You are absolutely right. Riparian areas are lands that occur along watercourses and water bodies. Typical examples include flood plains and streambanks. They are distinctly different from surrounding lands because of unique soil and vegetation characteristics that are strongly influenced by the presence of water. Beavers are critical to managing these areas and they help to recharge the aquifers and make these areas drought resistant. Most farms in the US get rid of this habitat and turn creaks and streams into drainage ditches. If we reversed this by repairing these lands and reintroducing beavers those farmers would find that they will have more productive farms.

[@zephyrprime]

I think this would be worthwhile to do. It makes sense because we are boiling water anyway to generate electricity so might as well get two birds with one stone. Not sure how much water can be made this way though.

[@siradwar8873]

lliving in germany in a city near Düsseldorf. My water comes from the local filtering complex.

[@lenafromterramater3690]

It would be really interesting if you could find out where the water for that complex comes from! Please share your findings with us, we would love to hear about it! 😊🚰

[@siradwar8873]

@@lenafromterramater3690 in the direkt surroundings of my City are two dams, which store the water for the four filter colmplexes.

[@littlerave86]

Basically all water in Germany comes from rivers or ground water reserves fed by rain. Here in Cologne our drinking water comes from the Cologne Bay, a fluvial terrace along the Rhine river (which has its main source in the Alps) from Bonn to Düsseldorf, which contains a subterranean stream that is fed by rain and surface water from the Rhine river. It is naturally filtered by the soil and extracted via a multi-well system and processed in waterworks before it's being fed into the water network. Thank you for making me research that, I've never thought about it before.

[@peterpan4038]

@@littlerave86 Exactly. On top of that Germany has a well developed system of of cleaning and reusing used water. No system is perfect, and some regions actually lack water. But overall water supply in germany is really good.

[@jamespittsfordiii7632]

The answer to the question of what to do with the brine is simple. There are abandoned salt mines that could receive the salt and if you allow the salt to dry in the sun you could deposit the salt into the mine more efficiently

[@chrishane1316]

How far way are those mines? Shipping it doesn't seem reasonable.

[@jamespittsfordiii7632]

@@chrishane1316 I know that there are vast salt mines in Southern Europe and Western Africa south of Morocco but any amount of shipment would be far superior to reintroduction into the ocean.

[@rikwarren3999]

Wow, so simple, I and the rest of the world have been waiting for your insight. I am forever grateful.

[@thornil2231]

AND YOU CARRY IT ON CAMELS... RIGHT?

[@jamespittsfordiii7632]

@@thornil2231 Do you think that sarcasm is the solution to every problem? I guess that because you have no ideas any idea is foolish.

[@rabinsonrai2905]

Terra mater has became my best go to youtube channel. Information dense with nuances never known before with good videography and sound

[@lenafromterramater3690]

You are too kind! Thank you! 😊

[@kenbellchambers4577]

The proper management of flood water can help greatly. This is not really too difficult to do and was done successfully in the Davis California project. Pre-cleaning of flood water is the main concern, and it may be possible to use artificial wet lands to do this job.

[@SickndSoul]

I’ve been saying this for years. We need to get a storm water cleaning plant/refinement system setup. Maybe use some low laying land or old lake beds to hold the water. Otherwise it’s clean water lost to the ocean eventually

[@ssusnqlunch4523]

Interesting!! I hope this new theory for the water desalination works. It will help lots in planting the desert and having cheaper water for daily use.

[@Shipidge]

My greatest dream as a human is to watch hot, dry deserts be turned into lush forests standing upon good soil.

[@Rabbitcodm]

We are sailing in the same boat😁

[@MichaelSmith-bq7hl]

China is turning the gobi dessert into forest

[@loki8580]

You mean on purpose? Deserts are far from lifeless. They have quite the ecosystem and any alteration to that would spell certain doom to the indigenous life there. Desert life is perfectly suited for their environment and changing their habitat would be destructive.

[@edouardomaindargent7685]

I think it also is one of the greatest dream I have!

[@sm3675]

@@clintforest44 we cannot terraform all deserts into productive lands, but the Tabuk province (Neom) and Sinai in Egypt in perfect for new projects. If you look at a map of Sinai, it looks like a heart. Sinai used to be lush, but now it's a desert. In half a century I predict that rain will come more often in this region. Egypt is spending a lot of money to combat poverty and unemployment in Sinai.

[@Jarod-te2bi]

My last teacher at my high school did if someone could find a cheap way to desalination, they made a fortune bigger then anyone else.

[@thedirty530]

We almost need to sell it as profitable... Where as we don't do anything without it.

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

i see you didnt graduate.....jayzoos

[@davidlafleche1142]

If somebody did do that, he would be assassinated immediately, and his invention would be stolen and/or destroyed.

[@philipalcazar]

Hey friends! I hope this video could give you an insight into Middle Eastern strategies to tackle water scarcity. I just finished another video on a topic that got me totally startled: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmrGoK2XaJejb7s The banana that - through new technologies - might re-shape agriculture entirely.

[@yoloswagprobro8227]

Ok?

[@nuranarrowood5808]

thank you much Alcazar

[@michaeldy3157]

If only human rights and freedom from religious tyranny were part of this program.

[@Fireneedsair]

@@michaeldy3157 kill a journalist….ITS ALL GOOD! Lol.

[@studypreneur907]

Ha to rain water hi peelo na

[@haivu3105]

1. You want the desert to have rain. But the air is very dry, so in order to rain in the desert, the air needs to be slightly moist (water vapour). 2. To have a steam desert, you need steam. It is necessary to pump water into the desert to evaporate the water. For example 30% of the area is covered with water 3. When there is a lot of water in the air, the desert will gradually rain So Crazy

[@lili-ke6dp]

Great idea! Would that be feasible is they pumped the desert with the brine instead? Pumping brine back into the ocean is SO NOT ideal *sigh* it can harm aquatic life

[@micky3982]

@@lili-ke6dp Yes, giving brine to plants can have detrimental effects and is generally not recommended. Brine is a highly concentrated solution of salt dissolved in water, typically used for preserving food or in industrial processes. While small amounts of salt can be beneficial to some plants, excessive salt or brine can be harmful and even toxic to most plants. Here's why brine can be harmful to plants: Osmotic imbalance: When plants are exposed to high levels of salt, it creates an osmotic imbalance. Salt draws water out of plant cells, leading to dehydration and reduced growth. It disrupts the plant's ability to absorb water and nutrients from the soil. Soil salinity: Continuous application of brine or salty water can increase the salt concentration in the soil. This creates a high-salinity environment that adversely affects plant roots. Salty soil can inhibit root growth and limit nutrient uptake, leading to stunted growth or plant death. Ionic imbalance: Salt contains sodium and chloride ions that can interfere with the balance of other essential nutrients in the plant. High sodium levels can disrupt nutrient uptake and cause nutrient deficiencies or toxicities. Toxicity symptoms: Plants exposed to excessive salt or brine may exhibit symptoms such as leaf burn, yellowing or browning of leaves, wilting, reduced fruiting, and overall decline in health.

[@jamessparkman6604]

@@lili-ke6dp this technique can be used to stop flooding of Florida and refreeze freshwater to save the Arctic

[@OldVetCreations]

Awesome video! I live in central California. I have said for ever that we need a desalination plant on the coast, to do exactly what this video suggests and fill the San Luis Reservoir as many times as you like! This reservoir provides irrigation water vital to one of the largest food producing regions in the world! We need do this!!!!

[@timphillian8963]

We got the 'high speed' rail instead...Enjoy.

[@jerryphillips1413]

Plus maybe fix the Owens Valley

[@garybulwinkle82]

California has so many problems! The major one is the leadership roles are filled with irrational people who are incapable of dealing with problems in a coherent logical way! Until this happens nothing good will happen in your state! I wish you luck, but your best bet is to move!! Speaking as an ex Californian.

[@mathiasfriman8927]

Instead you can harvest the rainwater, much better than to drain it right into the ocean.

[@jimthomas777]

David Troncoso , This is not about the water , it's about the Salt , Molten SALT to be exact , The Molten SALT is worth more than the water , Google Molten SALT and see what it's worth , they could care less about the water .

[@niteeshbihade1789]

Thank you, Terra Matter. Regions that have rivers should forest all along its length. That will result in good rain and rivers will become perennial - a more natural way of ensuring fresh water.

[@lenafromterramater3690]

We are happy to hear that you liked the new video! 😊

[@rokpodlogar6062]

rivers get their water in the mountains. strong winters are essential.

[@niteeshbihade1789]

@@rokpodlogar6062 Agreed. Good additional point.

[@benthere8051]

Thermal desalination can be extraordinarily inexpensive if it is done with molten salt reactors. Molten salt reactors operate at temperatures high enough to generate both electricity and desalinated water in the same system. If the molten salt reactor is fueled with thorium the nuclear waste is only dangerous for less than 500 years.

[@blacklighthologram5339]

This has given me more hope for the future of our planet than anything Bill Gates has ever said.

[@Poler777]

Why do idiots ALWAYS support despotic dictators over scientists and doctors. Because dictators will tell you anything you want to hear, while scientists will tell you the often boring truth. And idiots don't have any time for the boring truth.

[@arjitmishra100]

@@Poler777 bill gates is a thief and a business man. He doesn't do anything out of goodness of the heart.

[@ExplodingPiggy]

@@arjitmishra100 nor do the Saudis 🙄

[@marcosalamanca8742]

Nah, mr. Gates prefers to find more innovative ways to force windows updates to force you to change your computer every two years or more frequently. You really mentioned the wrong person here, sorry.

[@kreep182]

The whole time while watching this video, I saying to myself "why not use the sunlight". I have lived in Saudi for a long time, and during the summer, you can literally cook stuff on the hood of your car. Good thing they've actually decide to use it, and save the planet for a change.

[@flintube2622]

Because it’s expensive to maintain solar arrays or mirrors in the desert. It’s easier to just burn the excess methane that comes with the oil. Don‘t get me wrong that this is bad for the planet but please don’t think that the saudis simply didn’t think of the sun.

[@kreep182]

@@StephanBijzitter yeah but they can do it the whole year minus a very few cloudy days. That was my whole point.

[@Jack-he8jv]

@@kreep182 solar panels and mirrors will need constant cleaning from dust, doubt the cost will be worth it.

[@kreep182]

@@Jack-he8jv yeah good point. Never thought of that. This method would definitely have high maintenace costs, but I dont have a clue how they'd stack up against the costs of water purification.

[@Yanzdorloph]

@@flintube2622 I mean if a country like Morocco can build and maintain the biggest solar plant farm in the world in the desert, surly a country 6times richer with the same number of ppl like saudi arabia can do the same and more.

[@colorado841]

2:50 Salt water brine can damage a coral reef if is poured directly on it. However this isn't a big problem as the salt is quickly diluted and the salt content change decreases to undetectable levels within ten feet or something like that.

[@abdallababikir9154]

exactly, I think the effect is exaggerated.

[@urmomsahoe1]

You could also pump untreated sea water in with the brine before it hits the ocean to further dilute.

[@ttystikkrocks1042]

My industry is indoor agriculture, where the building is sealed and climate controlled. The moisture transpired by the crops inside is converted back into liquid to be reused by the plants again and again, saving over 95% of the water otherwise used in similar crops outdoors. This plus other efficiencies make indoor agriculture one of the most promising technologies for a future of more hungry people, less land and scarcer resources.

[@klaudelu18]

Yo, the production in this video (0_0) The flow was amazing!

[@lenafromterramater3690]

Glad we could amaze you that much! 😊

[@CptSpears007]

Looks like we won’t be fighting over oil in the future

[@isakjohansson7134]

Dont be so optimistic

[@sayyamzahid7312]

I live in Karachi Pakistan and I like your comment send 10 month ago

[@sayyamzahid7312]

@@isakjohansson7134 I live in Karachi Pakistan and I like your comment

[@isakjohansson7134]

@@sayyamzahid7312 I dont know but i suppose you have had your nation largely destroyed by USAs military

[@nole8923]

@@isakjohansson7134 Pakistan hasn’t been destroyed by U.S. military. It may have been corrupted by it though. The Muslim nations of the Middle East are starting to emerge into the modern age and leaving the Middle Ages version of Islam behind. That is why they are able to start big projects like this. Countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan are still living in the Middle Ages and as long as they do they will not progress and continue to be impoverished. Afghanistan is sitting on the biggest mineral treasure trove in the world, but their hardline backwards Middle Ages version of Islam prevents them from taking advantage of it and enriching their people. In the Bronze Age Afghanistan was the primary source of tin. That country is loaded with mineral wealth. It’s like a poor goat herder living in a thatched hut on top of a mountain of gold. Ignorant fools now control Afghanistan. Sad.

[@WmJared]

Could always do a video on phosphorus mining in Florida, or Morocco. The future effects of rising tides on the Floridan Aquifer, mebbe, or the Everglades.

[@ashanarchy7255]

I came up with this idea when I was 10. On a much smaller scale. After going to a science show about parabolic mirrors. I showed it to my teachers and parents and they just rolled their eyes. I live in Scotland, they were all thinking its too cold here for mirrors to evaporate water.

[@AdiPrimandaGinting]

Get some degrees or make a startup/business plan. Find make an efficient way to make your ideas reality. The truth is you perhaps one of thousands from billions of humans that have think of this at least once in their lifetime.

[@67happylunatics]

I like it roll their eyes all they want good idea

[@ripzaurus]

I live in northeast mexico, the water from my city, and I believe the whole state, comes from the river (Santa Catarina River) that cuts the city, and a few other dams around the state. There have been some years were there have been droughts and some people stop getting enough water. It fortunately has never affected my family and me, but it's still an awful thing that some families have had to endure (I even remember that a neighborhood in the rich part of the city got their water cut from a drought once). Apparently last year we had the worst drought in years. Let's hope more action is taken in that issue, the more I think about it the stranger it is for me that it's still happening when we are aware of the problems. Sorry for the not so fun story. Ok bye.

[@lenafromterramater3690]

This is indeed alarming and there needs to be a sustainable solution for this issue! 🚰💧

[@evannibbe9375]

There was one company in Mexico City that is selling a method of collecting rainfall and cleaning it in house to serve the needs of the property owner.

[@Daverloko1]

In Los Angeles we get our water from the Colorado River and the Owens Valley during our short rainy season I'm always amazed at how much water comes down from the Foothills and mountains not utilized but is channeled straight to the ocean instead of some Reservoir Lagoon or underground water cisterns

[@patriciaboyer2675]

too many people would lose their minds if we slowed down all the run off.

[@tsas485]

I live in an area dependent on snow melt generated rivers and deep wells. My valley has continued to grow in population and dwindle in water resources. I think the local government prefers to steal water from across a mountain pass, than face the real issue.

[@Timmyyy1990]

When i look at this i cant stop thinking about why 2 things arent combined. The solar power plant in spain (i think it was) uses solar to heat water and use the steam to create energie. So wont it be possible to do the same thing with seawater, get drinking water and produce energie at the same time?

[@tz8785]

Depends how you couple electricity generation and desalination. You can use the same heat source or tap low pressure steam from the turbines to heat the water but feeding salt water into a solar boiler, running the steam through turbines and then using it as drinking water sounds problematic. For power generation you want hot, high pressure steam while to distill with maximum efficiency you want to evaporate at low pressure. Also keeping salt and other impurities out of the turbine is both kind of important and much easier if you don't make the steam from salt water to begin with.

[@factsoverfeelings21]

This was recommended to me and I love learning new stuff. But question. When the water is technically separated from salt to fresh water. Is there way to take the excess salt and turn it into a solid.

[@DriveCarToBar]

Just leave it outside. The remaining water will eventually evaporate off and you'll have salt and whatever minerals were pulled out.

[@sharonjuniorchess]

@@DriveCarToBar Then the salt gets blown onto the surrounding land making it infertile.

[@DriveCarToBar]

@@sharonjuniorchess So don't put it somewhere you intend to grow crops. Not really a difficult problem.

[@sharonjuniorchess]

@@DriveCarToBar Only that the main reason for generating more water is so to reclaim more land for growing crops not create more barren land. You are solving one problem only to create another.

[@DriveCarToBar]

@@sharonjuniorchess Places that are already experiencing water shortages don't tend to be all that arable in the first place. Most places that use desalination, don't use it for agriculture, they use it for human consumption. There are a few places that use desalinated water for agriculture but they are the exception, not the rule. You're inventing a problem that doesn't really exist. A big pile of salt in a desert doesn't really hurt anything.

[@SmithnWesson]

"It still remains to be seen whether this actually works." I think you should have led with that. If you can't answer what happens with the brine, then you don't have a solution at all.

[@granta3044]

That brine is valuable, there are many ways to sell valuable salt

[@troyezell5841]

He described the 3 different ways to utilize the leftover brine at the end of the video. It's just a matter of finishing the prototype to test the theory.

[@SmithnWesson]

@@troyezell5841 I have this great new shiny coal power plant, but what am I going to do with all the smoke? Managing the waste is a FUNDAMENTAL issue. Can't be glossed over. Ideas are fine but it has to make economic sense. Salt is NOT a valuable commodity. Salt is one of the cheapest things on Earth.

[@troyezell5841]

@@SmithnWesson what in the heck did I say about a coal plant?!? I pointed out the fact that the video described what could be done with the salts not their value. Salt sells all over the world, it is in fact valuable, not like precious metals, it is nonetheless a commodity. However, I am all for coal plants while we look for other sources.

[@theinsfrijonds]

Or bury it in a pit

[@karlanovakova220]

1. Less brine means more salts in it - conservation of mass exist even in high-tech ECO projects. 2. Even solar powered project are not 100% carbon neutral. There is still CO2 released in building such project.

[@titantitan3159]

I thought of this idea 4 months ago and started to develop it to use it in Malta where there's plenty of sun.....I am really proud I thought of something like this on my own and thats actually possible to make it.

[@RoomCorner_]

Solar dome looks like solar triangle house. In some remote islands in Indonesia, we use solar triangle house.

[@marencruickshank]

I gotta research that but there are no videos on it 🤷‍♀️

[@MrRonin055]

Wouldnt it be awesome if somehow they could combine this with the solar tower power plant design and use one place to make clean water AND power at the same time?

[@bumbleWeaver]

all they have to do is add turbines to the steam pipes

[@snowmarron4859]

The sun doesn’t make enough hear like burning feul

[@MrRonin055]

@@snowmarron4859 What?

[@gordontheman6151]

I live in Norway. Here we got basically free fresh water from the tap, that tastes good, and is perfectly healthy.

[@lenafromterramater3690]

This is amazing! 💧🇳🇴

[@lenafromterramater3690]

Do you know where it is sourced? It would be amazing if you could share your findings with us 😊🚰

[@gordontheman6151]

@@lenafromterramater3690 we got big fresh water lakes in the mountains and in valleys. During the winter it snows alot on the mountains. And during the summer it melts and flows down into the lakes. it also rains alot the entire year. And it's kind of cold the whole year so the lakes doesn't dry out either. So this means an abundance of clean fresh water.

[@sushmasagar316]

How fortunate.

[@Mmuhaidib]

Hello! I live in Saudi Arabia, also lived in Canada and Switzerland, over there water is very easy to find, but in Saudi Arabia we have no rivers or lakes, we do have underground wells but it's mostly for farming and private use, for the whole country it must be desalinated water as we really don't have another option

[@jamesgutierrez3088]

So much more benefical to our World. Water is Life and life needs this ideal. Hope and pray that everyone can benefit from this.

[@velvetindigonight]

Thought provoking and informative. Thank you. Excellent channel shall sub. I live in Exmouth, Devon and according to South West Waters website 90% of our water comes from surface water via rivers and reservours, house and road run off etc., and sewage. 10% from ground source eg springs, wells and boreholes. One lives an learns! Our neighbours Wessex Water use 75% surface water and 25% springs etc., which explains why some years with low rainfull the Winterbourne (think about that name) River near Avebury is sadly dry and empty from the spring head along its length........................

[@max.4810]

Thanks terra👍 im studying egypt and the low water supply so this will help

[@bencowles2105]

This system was originally designed over a hundred years ago. My country has been using it for nearly seventy years. Producing fresh water and a large amount of other minerals and compounds from the brine and it is all done with the power of the sun. The fact that it has taken the rest of the world so long to figure this out is amazing to me. The system in this video is a little over complicated but it is basically the same as what we have been using. The original theory of using the sun to produce clean water was first put forward nearly three hundred years ago and like so many things many countries ignored it or claimed it was not possible. If properly done this system will work. It can not only be beneficial and turn the deserts green it can pay for itself in a very short time. Even more important is how this system can be adapted to be incredibly energy efficient. I would encourage more countries to look into this technology. you will be amazed at how quickly the world can be changed.

[@whatsupbudbud]

Can you give a link to read more about the one your country employs?

[@bencowles2105]

@@whatsupbudbud for specific details I will have to get clearance from the minister of trade as some of the technologies are trade secrets. That could take a few weeks but I will be more than happy to share this technology and much more. Once I have the appropriate clearances I will put up a temporary site on line and allow open access to these advanced technologies complete with blueprints and schematics. We have a lot to offer the world, advances in medicine, propulsion, energy, and yes producing clean fresh water from the sea. I will return to this sight to post the link to the temporary sight once clearance is obtained. I can give a few hints though without getting into trouble. The design in the video will work. A secondary power generation system can be added using the brine itself to create electricity with just a slight modification. After that stage the various mineral and materials in the brine can be extracted and purified for use in a wide variety of areas like food production, rare minerals, and medicine.

[@NadDew]

What's your country??

[@EridanusYT]

What country do you live in? is it Israel? I have a feeling that you live there close to the sunny area of the Middle East plus you guys tend to be secretive too lol

[@robertmccully2792]

What country?

[@LS-ot4ho]

I've heard of methods where the brine is pumped to salt flats which naturally dry out and can be mined for the sea salt. In this hot climate that should be easy to evaporate the residual water.

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[@johnzuijdveld9585]

I like the idea, I also like that they have included using mirrors to concentrate more heat into the system. This could be used anywhere even if not so close to an ocean, but it could be used also for waste, brackish even human waste. But you do have to find a way to dispose or utilize the concentrate, in the case of treated human waste (the richest) it must be able to be utilized as fertilizer and if it's in a diluted liquid form could be used for direct irrigation or spraying perhaps? even if only intermittently?

[@maeffjus]

Actually I live in western Germany. We used to have water in excessive amounts. Only until the flood hit our region some 3 weeks ago. This led to broken water-pipings from the well, which then turned out for us to have no water at all for 3 days. By today, all of our water (only for 3 villages at where I live) is being trucked all the way to the basin. This is not only unsafe in terms of bio-contamination, it is also not sustainable. But until the tubes are repaired, there is no other way. So currently everyone here has started to think whether to push the "full flush"-button on the toilet or use the "small-flush" one. This is probably the first time ever for people here experiencing water shortage. And by today, still dozens of villages and communities around the Ahr-river are not connected to the water-grid at all, due to damaged infrastructure.

[@melaniamonicacraciun9900]

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[@Brandon-w3o]

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[@lenafromterramater3690]

Thank you so much for your kind words! We are glad to hear that you enjoy our videos! 😊

[@aditiarya492]

We badly need a good desalination tech to overcome all these hurdles. Scientists from the whole world should come together in developing this. Water💦 is life🌿.

[@lenafromterramater3690]

This technology is also a ecologically friendly solution 🌍 which is key because #terramatters

[@beepbop6542]

@@lenafromterramater3690 Did you mean "ecologically"?

[@aditiarya492]

@@lenafromterramater3690 Yes, terra matters. That was a smart 🧠 reply. 🤭🤭

[@aghyaat2625]

Save water save live! Fantastic video! 👍

[@lenafromterramater3690]

Happy to hear that you enjoyed watching 😊

[@AlxanderBrd]

Correct me if im wrong but arnt the minerals in the brine useful? The salt and silica are both high value byproducts.

[@lepidoptera9337]

You are wrong. Absolutely nobody needs salt. We have more than enough of it.

[@phillipgraehl4665]

I live in Plano, Texas, USA. Our water comes from local reservoirs. It is “treated” and enters various municipal systems for consumption.

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[@darthmortus5702]

I was so exasperated when I first heard of the great problems associated with brine. I was like, oh come on, we are just pumping back what was already in the sea, won't it dilute quickly? Can't us humans get a clean win for once?! Bah.

[@leilanala]

No humans can't get a clean win, thru the ages we build and build and keep on building/creating our ideas, For instance the Adriatic sea has being so low that today there are undersea cities you can take expeditions to, and because nothing on Earth gets lost there must be not yet understandable forces going on behind human knowledge. The couple of hundred thousand years human are on this planet we do not even scratch it's surface. One day, without human interference there will be a new ice age, or maybe the suggestion of Earth is getting bigger and smaller in sequences of say a million years, if 50% of all volcanoes get alive at one's Earth might shrink, not much but say 0.01% in diameter 0.01% of 6,371,000 m = 6371 m or even less wil give a rise of sea level worldwide so much that many countries go partly or complete under water, by expansion of course the other way around. Remember! We human do not earn the planet, the planet earns us and can wipe us out as it did say the dinosaurs.

[@kristinetrott5087]

The problem with adding back all that salt is that the sea there is already super salty because the water in the sea evaporates pretty fast already, due to the extreme sun exposure. When you add more salt, there is nothing to dilute it back to the normal salinity. (remember, no rain?) You just make the problem worse. That's why it's a no win.

[@leilanala]

@@kristinetrott5087 Evaporated seawater allways comes back as fresh noot salty water in the sea/ocean. The altyness isn't rising if we bring back the salt we take for drinkable water, water makes always the perfect circle.

[@kaneplace8352]

Can’t wait to see if the solar dome really is the hope in our future 💙

[@mohammedshareefc1873]

it still doesn't address the brine waste problem

[@TheZK7]

I thought of this when I was in highschool.... who hasn't seen the sun evaporate water! What took them so long haha

[@jlc5271]

Lol I saw this in some film where the guy was lost at sea and had to use evaporation and condensation to drink

[@dietrevich]

This has been known for centuries you silly man. It has only been possible recently due to efficiencies in cost and technology. Even then it is expensive and very harmful to the environment.

[@craigfrancisy24u]

Is it impossible for water catchment downstream of rivers instead of letting freshwater being released into the ocean

[@tomkelly8827]

Concentrated solar desalination plants in the desert seem like a pretty simple and obvious solution to me. Well done Saudi Arabia for pursuing this path, may many other countries follow suit. For the highly saline refuse, I wonder why not pupm it into a pool to dry out so make sea salt and also to provide a highly concentrated sea mineral deposit that can be mined for magnesium, lithium and other good stuff

[@Atanjeo1]

A pool filled with brine drys up ~8liter /m² on an average day in S.A. The big solar dome produces ~360.000m³ brine per day. That means you need a waterproof pool with the size of >45 km² (11.100 acres) to get all the brine dry. to build and manage this size of pools costs can't be economical.

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[@asmalik2516]

You failed

[@Yash-up5gz]

Can't they use this brine solution to make salt for consumption by creating salt pans.

[@ecognitio9605]

It would produce way too much salt....

[@deekang6244]

@@ecognitio9605 we need road salt here, we’re running out

[@thany3]

I live in The Netherlands, and our water basically comes from the ground. I suppose we are blessed with this, as it provides one of the cleanest sources of tap water in the world, at a very reasonable rate. I don't think many other countries are able to employ this trick, due to geological obstacles mostly. The technique shown seems viable, but it has yet to be proven whether it can be built in the first place. Megastructures are seldom without complications, which is why there are so few megastructures (of any kind) in the world.

[@planefan082]

Groundwater is finite, most places have it (or have had it) but it's easy to drain, never to return

[@thany3]

@@planefan082 I'm not sure what the point is you're making. Every water source is finite, isn't it.