How to update an old Trader Vic's classic

[@ermishatziantoniou5113]

i will never understand why you are not a famous youtuber of your kind yet . This channel always brings quality which begs the question wth is wrong with the algorithm .

[@pallasa]

I 1000% agree... the algorithm has to be suppressing him I can't believe any other explanation

[@makmoose]

many of his episodes are only a few minutes long and the youtube algorithm prioritises watch time, and alcohol content is notoriously hard to monetise, but i'm assuming he is aware of this as this video is over the 8 minute mark that youtube prises

[@tomrowe6432]

Really interesting video. I developed my own tweaks on the Fogcutter early on. I switched the amounts of orange and lemon from the original. I use 2oz Havanna Club 3 Anjos, 1oz armagnac, half oz Navy Strength gin (Hampshire Gunpowder) half ounce orgeat, half ounce medium dry amontillado sherry. I find this gives dry, boozy, refreshing drink. It works great as a pick me up. I can see that my tweeks aren't a million miles from this version. Anyway, great video as usual.

[@roundup1253]

So true, he should be in the highest rank of bar tender channels

[@brianherman503]

All your videos are so fun and informative, but today I happened to be watching with headphones and was extra impressed with how well edited and mixed your videos are. The audio quality’s is superb and beautifully matched it to video. Super high qualitys work that I know must take you significantly longer to produce than what other content creators are doing. I want you to know that it’s appreciated!

[@makeanddrink]

Thanks so much! It's a constant balance because I edit with headphones but I know on computer or TV speakers it sounds different and the music is often lost. It's hard to figure out what to edit for when you don't have control on what it's being played on or how its heard. But, this video, audio and editing is what I'm really into and makes it fun.

[@brianherman503]

@@makeanddrink my belief is that whether it's music or video, you edit and mix on the best equipment you can afford, at the highest quality you can manage, and that quality will show through even when viewed on a tiny screen with a cheap speaker. For instance, the way you balance the levels so you drop the audio when the voice comes in, and then restore it when the voice stops, holding a single overall volume, that's gonna sound great on any device! Keep up the great work and we'll keep watching!

[@abramolivas8040]

Hi Derek great stuff! Appreciate the historical context behind the drinks and overall quality of video. I highly recommend exploring a drink or two from Skull and Crown Trading Co, a modern tiki bar in Honolulu. Stopped by there 2 years ago working on a cruise ship contract and still remember the taste of their drinks! Their menu is on their website

[@thesaskatchewankid]

I've bookmarked this place as it seems like a great place to go while we're in Honolulu! Only 28 minutes from our place. Thanks for sharing!

[@Quiet1-y9x]

Thanks Derek. I am actually sipping on a Fog Cutter as I watch your video! Not the Trader Vic version, but one I have cobbled together from other sources that also replaces the OJ with Orange Curacao and cuts back on the lemon. I find adding a bit of Demerara syrup helps the balance. I'll be trying the Paul McGee recipe next! Loved the historical section on the original Hinky Dinks!

[@makeanddrink]

Thank you!

[@jjdawg9918]

Great show! Super professional production and love the history. Alas I'm old enough to miss both Chicago Trader Vics and Lost Lake. I also found more than a few Vics cocktails were too heavy on the citrus(even the Mai Tai...as served at Palmer House Trader Vics....yes blasphemy ). BTW: for newbies or those that don't like Tequila you might want to substitute the Neisson for a different Agricole or something like Wray and Nephew overproof(still funky but not as grassy). Neisson can be an acquired taste(taste before you buy a bottle). And now I'm wondering what would happen if I replaced the brandy and sherry with mild amaro like Montenegro...mmm

[@robertpettigrew9042]

Thanks for the update!

[@kimbye1]

Loving the videos. Keep up the great work.

[@JimGolds83]

I've always made the Smugglers Cover version which adds an ounce of pisco. It's not my favorite but i still enjoy it. Great video, thanks!

[@benandrovich112]

Dude, your videos are awesome! I’m finally getting caught up. I know I’ve said this before but it’s great to see a fellow NorCal guy into tiki! Plus you’re in the Mecca!! Smugglers, Zombie Village, Pagan, Tonga, all epic places for their own reasons

[@makeanddrink]

Thanks so much!

[@hakupaku42]

Great video! I enjoy the Paul McGee spec *significantly* more than the OG Vic version. An appropriate (to me) amount of booze, way better balance, and the flavor of the sherry is better integrated.

[@simonwatson3418]

Your videos are always bloody brilliant, informative, great production and your presentation style is just perfect with such knowledge and ease. Also, where are the tiki mugs from in this video? Love them both!!

[@makeanddrink]

Thank you! One of the mugs is Trader Vic’s and the other is from Barconic.

[@simonwatson3418]

@@makeanddrink thanks Derek! Keep up the Stirling work, I’ve been catching up on the last two weeks of videos today (plus a few older ones too!)

[@Supersamazing]

I can't wait to try it. Like you, I didn't really care much for that drink, even with a more modern version, but this one seems very interesting.

[@laurencefrabotta1618]

@makeanddrink What are the details on your green bamboo mug?

[@RodrigoKuerten]

Great video, Derek! Looking forward to see what cocktails you are "cooking" for next week 👀

[@makeanddrink]

See you Sunday ♟

[@williamburditt4390]

I've always skipped all the tiki recipes with Sherry. After you open a bottle, they go bad in a month or two, right? I feel like I'd waste most of a bottle. Is it a must have ingredient or are there any good substitutes?

[@ultimatemaitai]

The Samoan Fogcutter is definitely better. I've enjoyed these on occasion, especially with a cream sherry as a float.

[@johnolmos8670]

I wonder how it would taste with acid adjusted oj instead. Adding curacao just makes me feel like it’s a pumped up Mai Tai

[@WhoKnowsNose]

I had no idea there was an updated Fog Cutter😱 I had one at Tiki Tom's, and have made it for myself, and really didn't enjoy either one. The amount of lemon juice used for the original is just absurd😂

[@escanone]

feel like Paul kinda turned the fog cutter into a riff on the mai tai. having made it, the lemon is different but can't hold a candle to the orgeat and curacao. they dominate and it drinks like a slightly brighter mai tai. not a fan

[@sadienicolas4923]

*promosm* ✔️

[@JPGustina]

It's just so overwhelmingly tart that is surprises me when I see it or the Samoan Fog Cutter on a menu these days at tiki bars. Just a completely unbalanced and unpleasant drink. That Paul McGee recipe is far superior to either of Vic's versions.