How to use and buy a SCBA Tank 4500psi as an alternative to hand pump for PCP/HPA airguns

A tutorial on purchasing and using a SCBA tank cylinder for filling PCP airguns or HPA ninja bottles.

[@daniellimon8948]

i'm a first time pcp user, my gun was made locally by hand, i just borrowed a pcp pump from my friend to fill up my tank, i wish i could have a scba like yours but so impossible even your hand pump.... i really like your very informative videos, dont stop sharing your helpful ideas. thanks.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

That's cool having a homemade airgun.

[@bctpcp9546]

LOL the hand pump builds muscles! and yeah you're right LOL it is "tough and exhausting' but one soon gets fitter by doing it and in a that log cabin in the woods where u hiked into like some maniac carrying not only food but you heavy hand pump, you can shoot as much as you like and get super fit.

[@hillbillybackwoods]

I bought a PCP just for the different ways I can mount the pump, floor, wall, off the deck, curls. Then when your arms are shaking from the workout...Try to keep that scope stable, great practice for real world issues.

[@AlvinStone76]

Newbie getting into PCP. A really like your approach.... Detailed and easy to follow. Although you cover this in the video, it would be of great benefit for a newbie like myself, if you could you provide a materials list, brand names, and tolerances. Thanks In Advance!

[@jason3064]

I'd like that info if possible too,thanks

[@eggwasher8393]

A company in Bolder Colorado that can recertification a tank after the 15 year period to extend the bottle life another 15 years. They were certified by DOT for the Navey and have been release to do it for the public.

[@jmarine79]

Would you know the name of that company?

[@sicks6six]

I've got a stirrup pump but decided the exercise was too extreme so bought a cheap electronic pump off eBay, it has a 6000psi rating and fills my 35CL bottle in five minutes, the pump cost £170 = $200 and came with the leash, foster fitting, and 12-volt transformer and car battery jumper leads so you can fill at home or in the motor when your out shooting, if you are just about to get into PCP shooting I recommend the electronic pump, don't waste time with a stirrup pump, you will upgrade to a electronic pump, a cheap electronic pump is actually cheaper than a good stirrup pump,

[@SEA-n2i]

Bro please drop a link

[@brendanm5254]

I'm an island guy too, Nassau. Where do you get tanks filled to 4500psi. Scuba shops I spoke to told me they can only do 3000-3500. And thanks for the videos. Very informative, and entertainig.

[@AirVelocitySport]

Brenden I go to swim and scuba shop in Rockville centre. Very nice guy Steven. I will fill your tank no matter how big to 4500psi. About $15 a fill. I have two tanks and at $30 to fill both almost every week during the summer I just figured it was more convenient to buy a Yong Heng. And it was the best thing I did. Sometimes he takes a few hours to fill. If you live far away it's a pain in ass. Where are on the island?

[@brendanm5254]

@@AirVelocitySport RVC is perfect. I'm in Massapequa. Thanks.

[@jameskiser9475]

Thank you I appreciate it nice cricket just bought one be here Friday

[@hawssie1]

The converter or step down nut would normally be referred to as a reducing fitting 1/4" mpt by 1/8 fpt and the female foster is of 1/8" fpt. not mpt. The tee is 1/4" fpt The valve you added would be a H.P. rated needle valve, 1/4 x1/4 fpt. Just adding so people know what to ask for. Although , now you can buy the whole set up (minus the needle valve which is a great idea) for cheaper and get a glycerin or "liquid" filled gauge as a bonus. MPT-male pipe or tapered thread a f would be female.

[@rickye7738]

I wouldn't be too worried about that tank after it expires but I sure hope those little fittings you installed are rated to that kind of air pressure and not just water pipe fittings from your local plumbing store.

[@AirVelocitySport]

I only use stainless steel rated at 6000psi I would recommend anyone thinking of playing with HPA do the same.

[@BlazeTrades]

@@AirVelocitySport where did you find this tank for so cheap? is there a site for them or, just keep checking Ebay? im also in the New York area and just found out I have a dive shop 5 blocks from my house.

[@kenbrenner2178]

He said they where5000psi

[@rickye7738]

I don't think you guys understand the difference between air pressure rating and water pressure rating. Air pressure rating has a mass of safety factor because if it fails it could be catastrophic whereas water pressure rating does not because water is not compressive therefore if it fails there's no explosion, similar to when I water heater fails.

[@dockeydidit]

No scuba shops here so someone suggested the fire department. I spoke to them and they refused to fill a tank. They were concerned with back contamination from the tank since it was being used to fill a device and not for breathing. There is an industrial gas cylinder company and you can get a LARGE tank from them but moisture could be a concern. Any suggestions when using that kind of gas company?

[@Technie87]

Anyone starting on HPA should understand there's BSPP, METRIC, NPT, and BSPT. If its tapered put teflon on it. If its straight use crush washers or ring washers

[@sammysmirh3889]

Outstanding video. Just getting into this. Thanks for the info

[@dannyfriessen3311]

can you give me a list of things you had on the hose??

[@edwardburrowes4243]

Hi nice video can you please recommend any shooting ranges in the NY area that are Airgun friendly. Thanks

[@divinicus]

Where to buy the adapter parts for valve

[@surreallife777]

I’m new to this but it’s confusing. My understanding scuba tanks are cheaper because they are heavier and they have a lower capacity? My PCP rifle has a 250 bars/500 cc bottle attached to it. I asked someone else about using a small scuba to keep in my backpack for portability and average scuba tank for my car and he said the maximum average of an air tank is 3000 psi so this will not fully refill your airgun as you will be short of a full refill and as you keep refilling it, you will get less and less air into your airgun. If I can get more than one fill from a scuba tank, why won’t it fill my PCP gun fully the first time and less and less the more times you refill your PCP Gun? I have enclosed what he wrote before. This is the part I don’t understand. Simply put, How many times can I refill my gun with a small portable scuba tank and how many refills with a normal sized scuba tank?

[@jonathanm8273]

Will it fill paintball tanks to 4500psi?

[@m.s.l.7746]

Seal that "chip" with quality cyanoacrylate after using the prep. Just to help it from developing cracks stemming from the damaged spot. Just a little "band-aid" for insurance.

[@AirVelocitySport]

Steven Littleton thank you for the advice. Will do!

[@stevejudd4615]

I just noticed I just bought the same exact tank as yours.

[@WaschyNumber1]

Hello Is ther a video how to connect the filing hoses to the tank and to the quick fill foster fitting's, i bought a new steel 5l tank, but ther is no information how to connect the stuff to the bottle and the fittings, do I need between the foster fitting a pfte washer inline, my quick fitting have a Dowty Washer on, but I connect it to the 1/8 hose fitting and it's loose on the fitting not tight 🤔

[@jeremyb853]

Isee you worked yr way up im trying to decide between buying a compresser the same brand you have or buying a scouba tank and refilling it at scouba store everyso often

[@thomasfrazier77]

Do you have a list of all the parts you had to get for it? Also maybe where you got them.

[@gregkuzmeskus3220]

Hello my friend, and I do mean friend. On your say so I have purchased a Weirauch HW 110 ST FAC .117. Not knowing what kind of compressor to buy I went and bought a surprise a"Young Heng" compressor. It came very well packaged "I was impressed". They must have changed the instruction format because it was very easy to read and understand. Not one letter of Chinese. Really liked the extra o rings and such. The only complaint that I have is.... that is was not shipped with oil. Maybe the reason was due too regulations. As a newbie and I mean NEWBIE I extremely apricate your videos. I wish I could repay you for the money that you saved me. Hey got a idea... I live in Massachusetts and maybe you could come over from the Empire State and we could do a little shooting. At this point I wish not to put my email down, but we can figure something out if you are interested in doing so. No I am not weird serial killer, but just a nice person. I am married to my female wife, if you get my drift. Also former Police Officer/DEA. Again Thank You Greg in Western Massachusetts

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you forthe kind words. One thing to update is not to use Hydraulic oil aw46 but instead use a diester oil like Secci Lube 500 which you can get at filtertechs.ckm for $60 for a gallon which will last a long time.

[@antonlords6]

Can we get a link to the hose and connector to te scba tank. Thanks

[@abditusnuntius2105]

Can you do a video converting the Seneca Aspen or Nova Freedom to a regulated bottle? Can't find a video anywhere. I want to convert my Freedom to a regulated bottle. I think I'll need an adapter, bottle, pump, and upgraded poppet. Can you share this information? I'm not sure what the threads are on the piece that goes into the valve either.

[@handyallaround5776]

thank this video saved me alot of money run from these tanks, just get a scuba tank and be done , or if you get one, make sure its in date

[@dougtisdale3262]

Where did you purchase all of the plumbing for your air tank?

[@mattolsson8816]

Thanks for your in depth videos.

[@kaybo153]

Is it okay to leave the air in the tanks for a long period

[@0000000666]

Question The ninja tank fill up our rifle? I mean if I get my rifle full and have a ninja tank it's help me to fill my rifle a fast second time? And how many times the ninja tank can fill my rifle? Thanks

[@DGA2000]

Very informative. Thank you

[@65LB]

As others have asked, where did you buy the parts to make up your fill system, especially the flow control valve?

[@upinflames12]

I was about to ask the same question. Could you provide a list as you have on other videos? Thanks in advance

[@jmarine79]

Have you replied to these questions I could definitely use that information as well that would be a solid!

[@axehero72]

Air velocity sport one more question why did you opt to use a multi piece fill station instead of the one piece I've been waiting for from China is there something I should know about like quality, leakage and also the size of my 45 minute tank compared to yours thank you.

[@AirVelocitySport]

No particular reason. The Chinese fill stations are fine. I actually do not use the one in this video any more. I purchase the 36" fill whip from AliExpress $40

[@axehero72]

TMT COULD YOU PLEASE TELL US THE LINK FOR THE FLOW CONTROL VALVE WHAT SIZE WHAT SPECS SO I CAN FIND ONE WHERE I LIVE THERE IS NOTHING BUT INTERNET TO BUY FROM SO YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THANKS TMT.

[@AirVelocitySport]

Hey Tim, don't waste your money on a flow control valve. No need because it's easy enough to just crack the SCBA tank valve slowly and control the flow by hand. I took it off my fill whip about a year ago and never looked back. No need for it. Not like you will blow your gun up cause it's very easy to control directly for the SCBA valve.

[@axehero72]

@@AirVelocitySport thank you I've been looking with no luck I thought that big rush of air would be to much for 100cc gun tube I'll take it from you and stop looking thanks.

[@TimHPop776]

Thanks. Does your local scuba shop fill them to 4500 psi or just short like, 4200 psi?

[@ANATURALDREWSASTER]

That's probably due to the hot air cooling after filling. You could ask to let the cylinder cool and then top it off probably

[@eagledronestan952]

Where did you buy your bipod

[@jameskiser9475]

I know this maybe a dumb question but can I fill one those bottles with my pcp compressor

[@AirVelocitySport]

Yes, that is exactly what I do. I fill my bottles using a cga347 adapter with my Yong Heng. Check my other video on the Yong Heng

[@DesertedSaddle]

Does anyone know where I can buy the adapter to fill the tank

[@benparenonicolas5292]

Nice available market Philippines country ?

[@givemetoast]

Nice short to the point video.

[@Demir-Atlı-Gezgin]

Hello. I've seen a video of you hiding the regulator in your rifle before. had a work with water pipe. he can't find the link to your video. I would appreciate if you help. merhabalar. daha önce tüfeğinizdeki regülatörü gizlediğiniz bir videonuzu izlemiştim. su borusu ile bir çalışmanız vardı. o videonuzun linkini bulamıyorum. yardımcı olursanız sevinirim.

[@spywiz1]

Where did you pick up that big tank for $200 something?

[@chrisfigueroa3361]

Hi Steve what is a good tank to buy for a Taipan veteran long to a bunch of fills ? Im looking to get one

[@AirVelocitySport]

Any DOT certified 88 cf or larger or 60 minute SCBA firemen breathing tank. On eBay I have seen them for around $425 with a born on date of 2012. They are good for 15 years usually and need a hydro test every 5 years. Becareful about buying non DOT CERTIFIED tanks. Some say certified but not by department of transportation.

[@ricardomolina8773]

Can you use a handheld portable electric pump 4 car tires On a tank or rifle

[@AirVelocitySport]

No, they only go to about 150 psi at best. You need a compressor that can go to at least 3000 psi more like 4500 psi

[@daniel51404]

Can you fill the pcp canisters with a bike air compressor?

[@AirVelocitySport]

No, bike pump only goes to about 125psi PCP guns and scba tanks are anywhere from 3000 to 4500 psi or 310bar.

[@bigdaddyblue]

where did you get the parts from so cheap? Can you provide links? A company name? Would be helpful for a how to use and buy video. Thank you in advance and cheers!

[@AirVelocitySport]

Tom Miller everything purchased on ebay

[@mpk5959]

can i still fill the air bottles with the hand pump @ 1300 psi if i don't have a scba tank.or with an industrial air compressor which i got at work? thanks

[@AirVelocitySport]

mpk5959 yes you fill the bottles to 3000psi with a Benjamin hand pump. the compressors must be able to go to 3000psi for the 13ci and 4500psi for the 90ci with the gold trim. check the output of the compressor you have at work. most compressors are only 125psi or so.

[@davidmaco1]

very informative thankyou

[@kkandretti]

Where can you get the Carbon Fiber tank re-certified after the 5 years run out? Will a Scuba Dive shop do that? Thanks in advance..

[@AirVelocitySport]

Kk Andretti I don't know if you can have them recertified after the 15 years. a scuba shop or any refilling station will not risk their safety on an expired tank.

[@kkandretti]

Thanks for replying.. :) i picked up a nice new one , complete package from Airtanksforsale -- spent a bit more but i think the tank will outlast me now..:)

[@livingintruthchurch]

Why isn’t my Scuba tank producing enough pressure to completely fill my air rifle?

[@AirVelocitySport]

Most scuba tanks are only 2400 psi or 3000 psi. Even if your tank is large it will never be able to fill a 3000psi gun. And each time you fill your gun it will be less and less. You need a SCBA self contained breathing apparatus which firemen use? These tanks are 4500psi and will do a much better job filling your gun

[@Brawler.1588]

I am thinking about getting a scba tank but not sure what fitting I need do you have a email I could send you the link to help me?

[@patgraves7able]

Where can I find affordable tanks such as these

[@AirVelocitySport]

Try eBay or AliExpress. Just make sure the tank is DOT certified. Not CE certified.

[@hksjoshua]

Have you heard of acecare tech cylinders much cheaper than omega and air venturi cylinders

[@vincentvalerio915]

Are you on the island ? You said New York and buy the beach. I’m in Farmingdale

[@AirVelocitySport]

Yes, I'm in Oceanside. Do you shoot at Brookhaven?

[@vincentvalerio915]

I was just there this morning with my impact and K1

[@vincentvalerio915]

My cell is [phone] Vincent. Text me some time to shoot together

[@AirVelocitySport]

Hey Vincent, that sounds good.

[@brandonclem2017]

Can you fill the scba tank with the same acg347 ?

[@AirVelocitySport]

Yes, but you must attach a quick disconnect rated at 5000psi or higher to the cga347 adapter

[@brandonclem2017]

So I could unscrew my foster adapter for my kral and screw it on the fill whip from the compressor ?

[@juandediosmoraduval1591]

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[@paytonmac5665]

TY VM

[@jolanalaraji8500]

hello there . well can u help me please? can u tell me about the website that u bought ur 4500pci 3500bar bottle so i can buy one just like yours the with all stuff that u said costs u about 76$ same one u have there . with best price . thanks

[@AirVelocitySport]

Jolan Alaraji the small was cheap because in was expired. the large one on eBay but I don't see any right now about $300

[@jolanalaraji8500]

Air Velocity Sport . thanks for ur fast reply. i was asking about the yellow bottle. did u bought it from eBay? its the best size bottle for me

[@jolanalaraji8500]

Air Velocity Sport. . i have another question if u can answer it please . what is the lower sizes air presser in the kalibrgun air tube than i have to charge it again

[@AirVelocitySport]

Jolan Alaraji the Scott tank is a 30minute bottle. I bought it on eBay. a non expired Scott bottle is around $400. the kalibrgun gun cricket needs to be refilled around 1500psi

[@jolanalaraji8500]

Air Velocity Sport. do know the 1500psi how many bar ? and what if the air presser going lower what can happen? what happens with is . the air presser in the air tube was about 60 bar or less and when i was shoot the ballet all the air got out of kalibrgun air tube to 0? i have no ideas why that happens with me is it any problem in kalibrgun air tube or it's because it was Lowe air presser in the air tube . i do really need answers for my problem please . and if u know what i have to do with it to fix it . answer me please. thank u for ur help

[@jacobokubo7726]

Can anyone help me find a used bottle for around 200? Thank you

[@natethetoe386]

Do they make steal tanks? Would they last longer and be cheaper?

[@AirVelocitySport]

Steel tanks are much heavier and generally I have seen them around 3000psi or less. More and more manufacturers are making carbon fiber 4500 PSI tanks at lower costs as they are becoming very popular. There are the Chinese options as well on eBay, Amazon and AliExpress just make sure you buy a DOT certified tank and not a Chinese certified one. Some scuba shops will not fill non DOT certified tanks.

[@julesgardet659]

Tanks!

[@ryuge84]

What is the brand of the large 60 minute tank?

[@AirVelocitySport]

I believe it luxfer came from Canada which also has DOT certified bottles

[@rigobertotoscano3491]

Thanks

[@emilbaligod1935]

Hi, I bought a tank with TEST pressure of 450 BAR and WORKING pressure of 300 BAR. How many BAR should i fill the tank?

[@AirVelocitySport]

Never fill more than the recommended fill pressure on the tank. Usually SCBA carbon fiber have a full pressure of 310 bar or 4500 psi

[@emilbaligod1935]

@@AirVelocitySport You are the best

[@CarlosMartinez-rx6vg]

Sir, i would like you to let me know where i can find all those parts, i had been looking for them and a did not find them all, only part of them but i am not sure are the right ones just give us a link please THANK YOU

[@goodboyringo9716]

I checked on the small SCBA tank at www.airgas.com they wanted 1800.00 for a tank, ggg

[@brianknickerbocker8518]

Not made out of the same money that you are, I will hand pump my 1377.

[@cartoonlover5453]

Where did you get the had pump from can you send me a link

[@sniper507target3]

I have a question if I have a 22 cc Hpa bottle with throttle valve 3000 psi inlet and 1500 psi outlet, and I have a 74 cubic foot venturi air tank with 4500 psi outlet pressure, I can fill my (HPA bottle with inlet pressure 3000 psi) or I have to put some adapter to my air venturi tank so that the pressure drops to 3000 psi output. I ask anyone who can help since this issue of high pressure must be sure before taking a bad step. and everyone who is well informed with the subject thank you for your experience and your opinion. Thank you

[@klutzo_juggalo7169]

where did you get that big tank for 250?

[@AirVelocitySport]

On eBay but forget about that now as it's very hard to find a good deal on a used tank.

[@timothybarnes5288]

@@AirVelocitySport Hello, Thank you for the time and dedication to educate us. My favorite video is the one in which you changed the output pressure in the Ninja bottles regulators. Where could I buy the boot for the 60min bottle, like the one in yours?

[@Munky332]

I'd rather trust an expired 15 year tank, than a chinesium import "CE" tank that doesn't have any specifications... They really should have just extended the 15 years to 30 with standard hydro...

[@mitchellwilliams5009]

i need a hand pump if u giving it away lol i bought my first pcp and now gotta try to find a pump

[@PrimeCollection22]

I feel your pain man I bought a pcp and didn’t want to buy a 15 L divers tank for $600

[@PrimeCollection22]

So I bought a hand pump

[@stevejudd4615]

I am thinking yours is a rubber boot. I only see 6.7 in and 7.25 in.

[@AirVelocitySport]

Steve Judd yes it's the 7.25 thanks for the kind words! I'm glad my vids help

[@stevejudd4615]

Is it a rubber boot?

[@AirVelocitySport]

Steve Judd it's hard rubber

[@stevejudd4615]

Sorry to keep bothering you. Does that just slide on or did you have to glue it or anything. I just built the frame. I just want to make sure I get this right with out having to send anything back. Thanks again.

[@AirVelocitySport]

Steve Judd no glue. It just fits snug. No worries

[@a.danielcavallo6050]

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