How to Use Greenstuff & Epoxy Putty - How To Sculpt Miniatures - Episode 2

We'll talk about Kneadatite epoxy putty (greenstuff) and Aves Apoxie Sculpt in Part 2 of my How To Sculpt Miniatures series.
If you'd like to follow along with the blog post I wrote on this topic, find it here:
www.modernsynthesist.com/2012/...

[@cjcottell]

I've cut my greenstuff with milliput. Worked well especially when casting in bluestuff as it gave that extra rigidity and set harder than just the green on it's own.

[@ModernSynthesist]

Thanks Christopher. I really need to get on trying this.

[@adriannaranjo4397]

Wait so you like mix the greenstuff and milliput together? The different products don't mess with each other?

[@kathryncastanares525]

Tfs! I love apoxie sculpt. I've never used green stuff, which is why I'm looking up videos about it, as I have been looking into trying it out. Your video has been very helpful and informative. Thank you so much. For making the paste out of AS, I used a little bit of xylene and it thinks it right out. I actually already had it, and noticed right on the can it said "thins all types of resins. And thins paints better than paint thinner!" So I had the idea to try a bit on my AS to make the paste to fill In a few gaps on my sculpture and it worked like a dream. Im not sure if you're supposed to use them together or if it messes with the chemical property in any way but, It's been months and used with many sculpts and other projects and haven't noticed any negative effect of using the xylene.

[@ModernSynthesist]

EASYGAMER262 Roblox boy amazing! Thanks for the tip on the paste. It's something I'd heard you could do with Apoxie but never tried myself. And I'm so happy you found the video helpful!

[@Transforming_Skyscraper]

Upping my custom game this year. Great video, very helpful!

[@ModernSynthesist]

DO IT DO IT

[@c3pu333]

0:58 where i live miniature shops sell the army painter version of those garbage little strip for 16$ per 4 inch strip while the box of milliput is 10$ at the model train/rc car type hobby shop. So far my experience in the mini hobby is that most "for miniature" branded products are just over expensive versions of other stuff.

[@ModernSynthesist]

I'd say if you can buy Apoxie Sculpt where you're at, it's the most value for money

[@YanniCooper]

Haven't used apoxie sculpt much, but greenstuff, you can alter the properties by mixing more blue or yellow. More blue = less sticky, faster cure time, harder when cured (good for building up a model) More Yellow = Stickier, slower cure, more rubbery when cured (good for finer detail work) I'd imagine that mixing them in this manner before mixing w/ the Apoxie will yield similar results, though I haven't actually tried it. I'd be interested in knowing if varying the proportions of Apoxie results in the same kind of property changes, or if it has to be 50:50 fairly strickly to be usable.

[@ModernSynthesist]

Yep! You can absolutely vary the amount of blue and yellow to get those effects. Mixing with Apoxie Sculpt makes the putty softer and more forgiving without losing the stretchiness of greenstuff. I've never tried varrying the A/B Part mix of Apoxie Sculpt.

[@DezzarTac]

greenstuff + greystuff = limestuff; got it :P Great video, a little long for the topics, but informative!

[@ModernSynthesist]

LOL. I was concerned this was too short! And no need to put the limestuff in there. I've given up on mixing in fimo.

[@MrStatistx]

Ah crap, of course the apoxiesculpt costs 130 bucks upwards around here. Gotta figure out what the german cheap version is.

[@ModernSynthesist]

Awww man. My German's approach is to bring an empty suitcase when he comes to visit Canada 😔

[@TheGamerZapocalypse]

...KneadaSculpt...ApoxieTite...indeed it is the best of both

[@Jim-yr7uh]

thanx for thie info on ribbons, i was about to buy one. . and was curious as to what kind of knife you're using. . ive been looking for something like that

[@ModernSynthesist]

You mean the sculpting tool? It's the old GW sculpting tool

[@stephenmcandrews735]

Any thoughts on using Milliput to build an under-structure before doing the detail work on a greenstuff layer on top?

[@ModernSynthesist]

Actually, just bought my first batch of miliput. It seems more expensive than Apoxie Sculpt, so I'd say go with Apoxie Sculpt. But, if you've got miliput, then sure. However, if you're just bulking, I'd start with aluminum foil, then miliput/Apoxie Sculpt, then top layer greenstuff. HOT tip: you can mix greenstuff with miliput to make your greenstuffast longer!

[@stephenmcandrews735]

@@ModernSynthesist Thanks for the advice!

[@ModernSynthesist]

@@stephenmcandrews735 Always!

[@ModernSynthesist]

I've since had more experience with this, and Milliput x Greenstuff is absolutely the best putty to reinforce an aluminum or wire underlayer. It's really strong and hard.

[@artemkostyukov994]

Is greenstuff dry well when mixed with Fimo Soft?

[@ModernSynthesist]

ONLY if mixing a small amount. Like, we're talking less than 50% fimo soft, 50% greenstuff. I wouldn't go more than 25% fimo to 75% greenstuff. Though Hydra swears by this approach, I've pretty much given up on using it. 50/50 greenstuff to apoxie sculpt is my go-to every time.

[@jakepaquette6073]

If I put apoxie sculpt in the freezer will it make the food toxic? I know he said it shouldn’t be toxic but it’s not my freezer

[@ModernSynthesist]

Honestly never considered this. I hope not, but keep it in an airtight container to be sure.

[@andrewtate4897]

the Apoxy and the way you describe it sounds like milliput except it comes out light green

[@ModernSynthesist]

No way. Milliput is a lot more dense than Apoxie sculpt, and it dries harder. It's hard to explain, but it's slightly different. It's my favourite way to cut greenstuff. I've messed around with Greenstuff x Milliput, and I don't love it as much, but it has its uses.

[@andrewtate4897]

@@ModernSynthesist I've never used apoxie as you can't get it over here in The UK so I was going on your description of it so theres not really a choice but to use greenstuff and Miliput saying that I've had some good results

[@ModernSynthesist]

@@andrewtate4897 UNTRUE! When I lived in the west Midlands, briefly, a nice man from Wales put it on "the transporter" for me :) If you go to the Aves website and email them, they are VERY helpful with giving you contact information for dealers in your area.

[@andrewtate4897]

@@ModernSynthesist oh cheers! I've looked on the usual outlets and couldn't find it and I live in the west Midlands too if I can get it in the area without paying post that would be great thanks

[@andrewtate4897]

@@ModernSynthesist I've just tried all the suppliers on the list that Aves sent me non of them sell it as a over the counter product. there only about 6 on the list

[@TheGoldenDragon_]

I think my green stuff is old bc I get little hard yellow pieces in mine even after thoroughly mixing. Also, after it's mixed, it doesn't stretch like yours. It stretches maybe about an inch then tears off.

[@ModernSynthesist]

Could be old, yes. But the hard pieces in the yellow can also be caused by it reacting with the stretchy plastic wrap they package it in. Regardless, should probably get some new stuff. If you're in the US or Canada, check out Greenstuff Industries.

[@sapclan2896]

Does Apoxie or greenstuff expire if sits out too long?

[@ModernSynthesist]

What do you mean by sits out? If you leave it out in the open, uncovered, for... Weeks? It likely dries up. But if you keep it in a sealed container, and put that container in a Ziploc bag, it should last for a very long time. Longer still if you store part A and part B in separate bags.

[@christian2809]

Fyi apoxie sculpt has warning to use nitrate gloves when mixing.

[@ModernSynthesist]

Yeahhh... Likely also a good idea for Kneadatite. I've still basically never done so in a decade. Not saying that means it's ok, but saying you can do it without gloves and not die :P

[@RieksVisser]

Watching this video it occurred to me that putting blobs of greenstuff on a wet pallette might prevent the sticking?

[@ModernSynthesist]

Hrm. Interesting! However I'd thing it's not wet enough. If you're concerned about it sticking to your work surface, just dunk your extra greenstuff in the water pot for your hands and leave it there.

[@RieksVisser]

@@ModernSynthesist ah, makes sense. Thanks for the tip!

[@psi915]

is apoxie sculpt similar to milliput?

[@ModernSynthesist]

psi915 I've never really used miliput, so I can't really say.

[@threshanimations7430]

Milliput is more crumbly then apoxie sculpt and not as strong in my opinion. Modern Synthesist I was wondering if you know a way to make greenstuff/apoxie cure more slowly? many thanks

[@ModernSynthesist]

Sure do William. Stick it in the freezer. I thought that was in one of these videos, but I guess not...? Not that helpful if you're trying to slow it while working with it, but a brilliant way to put additional greenstuff/apoxie you've mixed up on pause while you're working with one part of it. It should last in a freezer for at least 24 hours, maybe 48, and you're pushing it at 72 hours.

[@threshanimations7430]

Ah thank you that's very useful to know!

[@R.J.MacReady1982]

YOU CAN MIX MILLIPUT AND GS? HOLY FUCKING SHIT! I am trying this later today.

[@ModernSynthesist]

Mix all putties!

[@RustyARMPIT12]

"i dont think its toxic..." well thats assuring lmao. Great video tho very helpful.

[@keithtam8859]

man, just got the green stuff in ribbon....

[@ModernSynthesist]

AAAWWWW, it will be FINE! Just cut very close to the place where they touch, and don't use the part where they're touching.

[@keithtam8859]

@@ModernSynthesist cheers!!

[@shot2284]

stretchy; sticky; rubbery; greenstuff is bubblegum

[@ModernSynthesist]

Basically a hybrid of bubblegum and silly putty

[@thecomedian5933]

And greenstuff world charges extra for tubes or ribbon strips that are separated. Like thanks for charging us for YOUR mistakes greenstuff world!🙄

[@ModernSynthesist]

Did I mention in this video how I ONCE bought a "separated" roll of ribbon from those jokers, and it arrived with the parts once again TOUCHING?

[@thecomedian5933]

@@ModernSynthesist Not surprising. I bought some brown stuff from them that had that same problem.