How to Use Your Own Router with AT&T Fiber Internet | 2020 Update with BGW210-700

AT&T doesn't currently allow you to use your own router exclusively, but they do allow your own router behind theirs with few restrictions (and that's the main point). The cable modem router wifi combo I demonstrate is with the Arris/Motorola BGW210-700 that AT&T sent me in July 2020, configuring to use with my pre-existing Netgear Orbi set ( jo.my/orbi ).
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[@yodasama_productions]

4 years later, on entirely different hardware (with strangely similar interface and options), this was STILL very useful. Thank you for putting this out there.

[@kjmartin5379]

Dear Mike...you just helped a 71 yo lady place her att fiber BGW210 in passthrough so I could run my Eero 6+ as my main modem. Thanks for the great instructions!!!

[@Traveling_Texas_in_a_Tesla]

Eero 6+ would be your router, not your modem!

[@fireicemetal]

@@Traveling_Texas_in_a_Tesla lol

[@roberant7]

Mike, almost 2 years after you published this, and still helping others out... sincerely appreciate your hard work and effort into getting this tutorial out!!! :)

[@MikeMu]

Thanks! Luckily, this still applies to the newer models from AT&T since the interface has not changed. Appreciate the comment.

[@brenden7655]

I like people who have access to fiber in there area and they are shooting up to like 500, and here I am coping with being stuck with 40-50, awesome video worked fine with my netgear router i bought.

[@James-ek2qk]

Thank you so much! I've had AT&t fiber for about 4 months now and I was forced to buy their crappy extenders because I couldn't get my orbi to work with it. You showed me that all I had to do was two resets back to back on their horrible gateway to get my system to work with thiers. My orbi is running great now and my wifi speeds are no longer in the 30mbps max with their equipment.

[@CharlesTheImpaler]

Thank you for this straight forward video. There is one error in your explination though; if you have a router connected to the AT&T gateway via a hard wire you do not need to connect your computer directly to the gateway to gain access to it after you turn the wifi off at the gateway. You only need to type the IP address of the gateway into your web browser and it will load up just fine. In essence your computer is indirectly connected over wifi to the gateway through said cable. Again thank you very much for such a helpful video! I too am enjoying a much faster internet connection.

[@maihooper84]

Thank you! Your video was very well explained and showed everything in detailed. I was able to reconfigure the settings between our Orbi Wifi 6 and ATT Fiber. Now, everything works like it should.

[@Syht2]

this worked wonders I'm so happy now I finally have an open nat type so if you get at&t fiber definitely use your own router you are completely limited by at&t on their gateway

[@rlefranc42]

Thank you so much! After scouring numerous message boards that led me down a rabbit hole and never worked, I had my Orbi and AT&T units playing nicely in 5 minutes! Bless you for posting this!

[@KevanPewitt]

This Video helped me get my Orbi router up and running with my AT&T Fiber services in less than an hour. The speed of the wifi with Orbi RBK853 router are 5 to 10 times faster than the AT&T BGW320 Gateway's built-in wifi!

[@MikeMu]

Great!! I'm thinking of upgrading to the RBK853 as well. Thanks for the comment.

[@KevanPewitt]

@@MikeMu You will be glad you did!

[@eandmstern]

Mike, Very good walkthrough. I have a brand new BGW320 from ATT, and successfully have it routing as an umbrella above my ASUS RT-AC88U 8 port Gigabit Wifi router. I couldn't get it to work until I switched the subnet on the BGW320 to x.x.0.x since the ASUS was set up on the x.x.1.x subnet. Appreciate you taking the time to put this together - saved me a lot of time and headaches! Cheers!

[@Gratussi]

Add me to the list of success stories. Thank you so much for getting my system back up and running with my original router!

[@EdwardPriest-fx9yf]

Just set up my BGW210-700 connected to Orbi RBR860 with two satellites. Works great! Thanks for putting this video together Mike.

[@Pedakin]

I'm also in the SF Bay area, unrelated. But anywho I haven't finished the video yet but thank you for this information wholeheartedly. I just bought a $300 gaming router because my connection has been so unstable with AT&T's modem and this is the only video up on it recently.

[@wesmckean1443]

That's good stuff. Good to know if I ever want to jump on the wifi 6 bandwagon and upgrade my wireless in the house. I currently have the BGW 210-700 with 2 mesh wifi extenders. Plugged directly into the extender upstairs, I get 400 MB up and down. So not bad for stock. I can already see the spousal unit rolling her eyes while I explain my "need" to upgrade :)

[@dillinisgood]

Another satisfied viewer. These instructions also worked for the newer AT&T Fiber modem, the BGW320. Thank you!

[@jamesscanlon44]

Very good video and this was just what I was looking for. All of the other videos I found on KZbin left out changing the Subnet address part on the AT&T modem/router that has to different from your routers Subnet range to avoid any conflicts. Thank you

[@flyshacker2000]

Thank you so much! You have done a brilliant job explaining this, for those of us who are not knowledgeable in ip networks. I have read more than a dozen posts on this topic. Your video is easy to understand and follow. Can't thank you enough.

[@brandonhaywood426]

I may be switching to Att fiber in September when my Xfinity expires after watching this! Thank you!

[@MikeMu]

You will ask why you didn’t do this sooner. :)

[@astcal]

Mike you rock! your video still helps people in 2023 !!!

[@MikeMu]

Thanks for noticing! These instructions still apply for the routers AT&T uses on their newer models. One day they may update to a different interface altogether so that'll be the next time I make a new video. Cheers!

[@spectacularinsanity5215]

I spent 7 hours today trying to figure out what the hell to do. You of all the links pages ect i have been to solved my problem. I had to change a 1 to a 0 7 HOURS because of a 1

[@MikeMu]

Wow, sorry you had to go through that. I'm glad its resolved, and I wish information like this was more available. Enjoy your new network!

[@topofthehill31]

Hi Mike! Thank you so much for this very helpful video. I recently switched from Xfinity to AT&T and had an existing Orbi RBK853 system set up with Xfinity. Right away, when I switched and plugged in my AT&T Modem/Router combo into my Orbi--I knew something was off. This video was extremely helpful in finding a comparable 'bridge mode' option on AT&T's router. The only additional item that I did was, even though none were checked, I disabled all of the packet filtering and also decided to use Google DNS on my Orbi's settings. Things are much smoother now. Thank you so much.

[@MikeMu]

What kind of speeds are you getting off your RBK853? Thanks for the comment! Have a safe holiday season!

[@topofthehill31]

@@MikeMu I am getting about 380 Mbps Download and 322 Mbps off one of the satellites. Your video also helped resolve my 'Double NAT' issue on my Xbox. Thanks again for all of your help! I hope you and your family have a nice and safe holiday season!

[@MikeMu]

@@topofthehill31 Great! Thanks for the response. Someone else said they still had Double NAT issue with XBOX, which I couldn't test because I had my XBOX locked up in storage 300 miles away. Good to know it works for you. Have a Good and Safe Holiday season!

[@danschroeder9676]

Most excellent video. I just switched to AT&T Fiber, and this clearly walked me through how to use my Netgear Nighthawk. Thank you!

[@CatchTheWave-X]

I’m here for the same thing!

[@coldcarl2101]

I was here for the same reasoning. After setting it all up what kind of speeds are you seeing? My bgw-320 don’t have the range I was expecting but after setting up nighthawk the speeds were cut more than half. Not sure if I need to disable the att router and that’ll speed things up or just choose either range or speed.

[@TC-Loom]

Thank you so much! Note: I am using deco x60s and I had to turn off "fast roaming" in deco app for the direct TV boxes to properly connect. For anyone else struggling

[@Ezebunz]

Your video helped me get my Linksys router setup with AT&T's Arris Modem/Router. There's a few useful links on Reddit and other forums that explain this I suppose but your video was the most accessable and to-the-point source on the net. Very cool. Thanks a lot.

[@MikeMu]

Thanks a lot for the comment. I wanted to explain as much as possible in this video. In truth, a step by step only without explanation would be much, much shorter but then doesn't account for a lot of questions and situations some people may face. Happy its still helpful still. :)

[@dougleclair]

Thank you very much for posting this! Followed along in real time step by step. Just switched from a cable internet provider to AT&T Fiber -- much cheaper and much faster and love the service. I saw a large improvement after setting up the passthrough -- ping went from 10ms to 6ms and upload went from 600 to 800Mbps. Only took 10 minutes and all of my existing network stayed with the same configuration.

[@patty3463]

You had 600 mine is only 500 and it doesn’t even get to there it just gets to half that all the time and now it doesn’t even work at all fuck at&t you’ll probably regret getting at&t soon

[@EnzoPrince92]

By the way fellows, after setting up the IP Passthrough, don’t forget to double check the IP address in the home page. Sometimes you need to restart the bgw210 to apply the changes.

[@MikeMu]

Great advice! Yes, restart to apply the changes. While I go through it in my demo, I think sometimes I forget to mention that in others.

[@BryanMiraflor]

crazy cause I've had the NVG599 for 9 years, and i just chatted with ATT support and now they're finally sending us the BGW210 for an upgrade/update.

[@MikeMu]

Sad that they don’t just do the upgrade for you automatically.

[@Ape510]

Thank you for this! Worked like a charm - ATT Fiber Orbi setup worked for me with the BGW210-700. Followed steps to the tee and boom!

[@MikeMu]

Nice! Make sure you reboot after saving settings. For some it doesn’t do it automatically.

[@Ape510]

@@MikeMu Appreciate it! You the man

[@Kratosauron0]

I ended up skipping the first step and using the default subnet IP addresses of both routers, but this was still a super helpful tutorial!

[@MikeMu]

That’s totally OK as long as you know what’s going on so that everything works. Some routers you don’t need to change at all, just mine (Netgear and my setup I did). Thanks for the comment!

[@jeannedarc143]

This was the best. Expert way to help non-technical customers.

[@KarenLesko]

Thank you so much! This video was exactly what I needed to use my TP Link Deco mesh router with the AT&T Gateway.

[@chicagoangler]

Are you able to use the 2.4ghz network still with the TP mesh system or just the 5ghz?

[@michaelrosales2692]

Amazing! I almost had a panic attack setting my Orbi because it wouldn’t connect. Then I watched this video and this walk-through was spot on.

[@MikeMu]

Perfect!

[@redteamla]

Man, thank you for this! I set this up for a friend and I basically just followed your instructions. Bam! Works!

[@Daniel-ge8iw]

I got WiFi 6 router when I’m close to it I get around 600 Mbps not bad but can be better. When AT&T Fiber was finally available here in my part of Los Angeles I got happy and excited and had them for two years now 1Gig only lol

[@MikeMu]

Nice! Daniel, what part of LA were you able to get fiber for 2 years now?

[@MikeMu]

@Korvus How long it takes depends on a lot of factors. Namely, how does the cable need to be run, and where. If you want to play right away, just connect directly to the router they provide.

[@Daniel-ge8iw]

Mike Mu on the East side of LA

[@Daniel-ge8iw]

Korvus it’s fairly fast but tomorrow it’s going to be hot so may take around 3hrs or so depends on the tech and other factors. Once the ONT is set up and they run the cable you got to let the att gateway boot up would be good to have your account set up and ready before the tech comes and yes you can connect your Xbox to the att gateway they provide btw doesn’t have AC WiFi

[@rodneyat]

For those concerned about leaving the AT&T wireless still on while running a router like the Orbi. One suggestion is to turn off the 2.4Ghz radio on the AT&T router but leave the 5Ghz radio on with a different SSID. There is no channel overlap on the 5Ghz spectrum so you can safely leave it on without issue. But, you do just have to connect to the AT&T wireless network with a 5Ghz capable device. But, it does keep you from having to connect wired. locally to the ATT router to manage it.

[@javierSuarez702]

Hey Rodney so I can leave the 5ghz on correct I would love to have two different wireless connections

[@chicagoangler]

I have the 210 att router but am wanting to add a mesh Wi-Fi 6 system after the 210. That all seems easy but I still need a 2.4ghz signal to connect some of my home devices that only work on2.4ghz. Do you know if I can add a new mesh system with ip passthrough on the 210 and still have 2.4 and 5ghz networks? Thanks.

[@rodneyat]

@@chicagoangler Just make sure that 2.4Ghz is enabled on your new Wifi 6 system and you will be fine. As indicated in the video, it is best to turn of 2.4Gh on the 210 so that it does not interfere with your other system

[@chicagoangler]

@@rodneyat awesome thanks!

[@randyhenry2477]

i don't get why the better way isn't to just put the AT&T gateway into AT&T's version of bridge mode (passthru). Then it's your router...your everything. It's what I did with my AT&T GB320 fiber. Dynamic passthrough.

[@tennisinme]

I am having a lot of trouble with speed in my ASUS xt8 using your instructions. Is it a hardware issue?

[@MayoOlagundoye]

Thanks so much for this - other explanations came up short. I especially like how you changed the subnet of the ATT router so that my own router could continue operations using its original subnet. I would have hated to redo all of my static IPs!

[@shellaway]

These directions are tremendously helpful, and got me to a partial success. I didn't have to change the IP address because the new router, TP-Link Archer AX 6600, used a different one than the AT&T modem. Then I followed the rest of the directions. My own laptop and cell phone are connected and whizzing with triple the speed from before. Thank you. But I can't connect any other family devices (phones or laptops). The router won't accept my password, which I've verified repeatedly (and used successfully, above). I got one device to connect via WPS (a tablet), but not another (a cell phone). So then I went into my router's own software ("Tether") and updated the firmware. Now neither that tablet nor the cell phone will connect via WPS or password. I can be taught, but I don't know what to do at this point. Before I pack up the router and send it back, can anyone please rescue me with some ideas?

[@MikeMu]

Do a hard reset of the TP-Link and see if that does anything.

[@shellaway]

@@MikeMu I did it. No changes. I just don't understand how a couple devices could connect but not the rest.

[@MikeMu]

Did you turn on compatibility mode? It will slow down wireless to the slowest device connected though.

[@shellaway]

@@MikeMu Forgive me; at first I was thinking a hard reset meant unplugging the router (like a cold boot). I pressed and held the reset button 8 seconds, then started over setting up the router. It worked! _Thank you_ for sparing me a tremendous amount of frustration. I am a subscriber now for sure. As for compatibility mode, I couldn't find a setting like that, so I presume I didn't mess that up. The literature for the TP-Link says that it's supposed to alleviate the very problem you're describing, so TP-LInk probably made it hard for a novice like me to nullify a feature they are proud of. Anyway, your help has been outstanding.

[@ericstikes7249]

Greetings and thank you so much for your work on this video! This was very helpful. I wondered though if you or anyone else has encountered either of two issues where, one: the connection seems to drop momentarily and then come back up or two; where certain websites don't load correctly the first time and must be refreshed.

[@JSdrums]

Thank you! My speeds where being limited to 80 up 100 down. Currently using a Netgear nighthawk and now getting 500 down 600 up.

[@joyridetesla4718]

This was really helpful with my BGW320 and my Netgear Wifi 5 mesh (old Wifi) - New Set of IP Address + passthrough. The only question is, after you do this setting in the BGW Gateway, do I need to make my Wifi Mesh Router in AP mode or Router Mode? Since I have it in AP mode I did not disable the firewall on the BGW Gateway.

[@DrElectron1]

Alternative approach: Instead of configuring the modem-router into virtual bridge mode, you can easily configure Orbi from router to access point mode. This turns off Orbi's DHCP server and avoids "double -NAT" issues while delivering the same Wi-Fi performance with less configuration work.

[@MikeMu]

Yes. But ATT’s router becomes the bottleneck for some of us.

[@mmbelanger]

By turn off "Drop incoming ICMP Echo requests to Device WAN Address" you're allowing potential bad actors to ping the AT&T router, regardless of the fact that it's in pass-through mode. I leave that on.

[@Michael-zn2jc]

I’m getting my service installed on Saturday and was worried it wouldn’t work (or be a lot of work to have it work) with my eero system. I think this will work so thank you very much.

[@MikeMu]

It should. Oh, also you don't have to change the IP address. There doesn't appear to be a conflict with what Eero chooses by default.

[@Michael-zn2jc]

@@MikeMu thank you. I’ll let you know if it works when I get everything installed.

[@InsaneFire10YT]

my wifi constantly disconnects every30 mins on my phone, and it worked fine on previous routers EXCEPT the damn ATT BGW210 router. Definitely gonna buy my own router

[@MikeMu]

That's also been one of my problems with Service Provider routers, they can't handle too much wifi traffic at a time and one of the big reasons why I use my own that can handle it.

[@caitburgess11]

Perfect, thank you for making this. tried other guides and couldn't figure it out. Your video helped me immediately!

[@cesarortiz5974]

I did all the steps and when I hard wire to the Xbox from the external router it’s half the speed as compared when I’m hard wired to the laptop. Idk why it’s doing that.

[@nilserosorio1210]

Thank You very much your video had save me Time and will give a lot of productivity. Just Know that someone else life it's much better after people like you share your knowledge and experience.

[@latinboi815]

Super helpful! Worked great with my Netgear R6300

[@spywolf5]

How would one port forward once using this set up? I am trying to port forward a couple of games and I can't seem to figure it out (even though I have port forwarded ok before having this setup)

[@carlosr.serrano9558]

Mike very good video ! I was able to do this set up on my own my speeds increase greatly !

[@briannewson8395]

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[@seanmccullough4527]

Super help instructions, it just worked for me the first time.

[@gsRt5]

Thanks! No double nat this time! Hope it lasts

[@gsRt5]

A month later and still running fine!! This is the way!

[@k2wo1]

Thank you Mike. The best video I've seen on this subject. Thanks!

[@melgueta1]

Thanks for the video. I am setting my new Netgear Nighthawk. Where the network cable should be connected for the new router, the Internet network or should I use one of the four LAN available?

[@MikeMu]

Internet / WAN.

[@agracer1000]

I have a BGW320 ATT Fiber Router/Wi-Fi. I followed your instructions (reset device IP to 192.168.0.254) and got through most of it, but when I plug in my Netgear wi-fi router, the BGW will not find it. It does not show up on the "Passthrough Fixed MAC Address" pull down list. I did try manually entering the MAC address, but it still does not find the router (or at least there is not internet through the Netgear). I should plug one of the LAN Port from the router directly into the WAN port, correct? Should I try to reboot everything? EDIT: I just rebooted the Netgear R6700 and now it works. Thanks for posting this Mike!! Now if I could just figure out how to plug in my old NVG589 to the fiber connection I could save $10/mo. This BGW has a wonky connection I've never seen to the fiber feed coming into the house.

[@TimothyD]

Salamat po. Amazing video, thanks for the assist!

[@jackalclone1]

This video was perfect, and exactly what I needed! Well done, and thank you

[@parkerhardigree1313]

This video was very helpful! It made the installation of my new router easy and efficient! Thank you so much!

[@tjle4900]

Very details video, Thanks for sharing Mike!

[@jmpecora]

Thank you for providing this. I have TP-Link but this was the most helpful that I have found. My only question is that I can still access my Arris/Motorola BGW210-700 even after I connected to my TP-Link Archer A7 wi-fi. I can actually log into both the Arris and Archer A7 based on their individual IP Addresses. Is that an issue? At the 19:30 mark, you can't access the AT&T once you're on your own router, but I still can. Maybe there was a change in the past 6 months since you posted, but wanted to make sure that isn't an issue. Thanks!

[@mikeoxlong567]

I bought the same router, did you figure out what the issue was?

[@jmpecora]

@@mikeoxlong567 The IP Passthrough works okay but is not a true bridge. The AT&T router is still accessible. I was still having some issues with TP Link and switched to eero. I could bridge the eero but prefer not to. Long answer to say there is no way to bridge the AT&T router, just fake it with the Passthrough but it isn’t perfect

[@Obliter8Dave]

I'm having a bit of trouble. I did the IP passthrough, firewall disable, wifi disable, picket filters disable. Using my EERO pro system, I am getting a consistent 90-100mbs while when connected to the ATT router I am getting 200-300mbs. It doesn't matter if I use IP passthrough or not or whether the wifi is active on the router. Nothing seems to change the speed on my eero. Anything I may have missed?

[@carlosbob44]

I'm having the same issue. While connected directly to the BGW201 ATT router, i'm getting around 700mbs down and up, however after connecting my ASUS RT N66R via IP passthrough i'm getting maybe 150mbs down and up. Please note i'm wired directly into the Asus router so wifi is not the issue. Any help would be appreciated.

[@kylewatts7796]

Same issue with me. Have tried two different brand new router systems. I can get 250-350 Mbps from the BGW210 but only about 200 on other routers. Super frustrating.

[@carlosbob44]

@@kylewatts7796 Update: I resolved the issue by performing a hard reset on my wireless router (not modem). Please note you need to reconfigure the wireless router as doing a hard reset will erase all configurations.

[@MikeMu]

I did a few followup videos about resolving some of these issues. Carlos points out how he resolved his. I had an issue and it was a hard reset to the modem/router, but hard reset to both doesn't hurt and could solve your issue.

[@iSuperShots]

Mike Mu Mike, if we hard reset the modem wouldn’t that mean we need to reconfigure it all again? If that is the case, would it be better to hard reset the modem before starting the IP passthrough procedure in the first place?

[@DavidWarriner-xs4yr]

Thank You!! Verry Helpful

[@bdstarner]

Hi Mike - Thank you for publishing the series of videos about using your own router with the AT&T BGW210. I do have a question... What is the recommended configuration when you want to hang two routers off the BGW210? I have a NetGear Orbi router that runs my personal mesh network AND my employer provides a Cisco ISR 1100 router for my work systems. I would like to hang both the NetGear router and Cisco router off the BGW210 but that means I cannot use the passthrough function, correct?

[@MikeMu]

Hi Brian, you can use the pass-through function only on one device. But, for business use AT&T may be able to unlock more flexibilty, but ask you to pay more. It wouldn't be residential service anymore, but business class. Or you may ask to get a completely separate AT&T line / service to use with your Cisco/work stuff, and hopefully also paid for by work. (You'd ask for at least 2 dedicated IPs).

[@marsdahustler]

you help the world turn. THANK YOU!!!

[@dannyhcang]

Hi Mike, (or anyone reading this) I have couple of questions, please :) 1. Is there not an option for running 2 SSID parallel? meaning two wifi network? What will be the downside for keeping both network up? 2. Do we have to turn off all the firewall on the ATT router? P/S: Im using BGW320-500 For context, before this I was using both Nest Wifi and ATT router concurrently with same SSID. And the issue was my smart home devices was not functioning correctly.... i.e. youtube music not casting correctly to the right devices, as it sense i am on different network. I read if i were to set my ATT router bridge mode that will help with this issue.

[@MikeMu]

1. You can run them in parallel, but they will have to be different SSIDs. I see no point in doing this with ATT and your Nest. 2. You don't need to turn it off on the ATT if you don't want. 3. BGW-320-500 is same software so this all still applies. 4. If you want to cast stuff, you need to make sure all your devices are on the same SSID/network (caster and receiver for instance).

[@dannyhcang]

@@MikeMu Thanks so much! you have been a great help.... I was on the phone with ATT and Google, pointing fingers at each other.

[@malmae1]

Thanks so much for these tutorials! You’re so clear and concise. I have ATT fiber 1gb to the house with the BGW210-700 and I hooked up an Archer AX11000 wifi6 to bypass for better speeds, etc. because I was buffering when streaming and dropping on service. I was wavering between the Archer and a mesh wifi6 and thought I’d try the Archer since I have it. The modem/router and router are on the top floor and the buffering etc was happening on both the top and lower floor. After hooking up the new router, I’m getting much better speeds when I’m using the 5gh, mid 400’s up and down on average, but the 2.4 is really slower than when I only had the BGW. I’m getting mid 40s up and down. Is there a reason for this? I rebooted both routers after configuring, but I did not reset either of them. Will changing the dns as you mentioned somewhere help? Thanks!

[@MikeMu]

Did you disable the WiFi on the AT&T? Probably signal congestion. DNS would help with overall response but not the throughput.

[@malmae1]

Thanks Mike, I did. All in all it’s working well. Thanks so much!

[@vinlata]

well explained, great job!

[@joeretired4552]

Mike, you video is very good - I have watched it several times, each time getting more information and more comfortable with performing the changes to Passthrough Mode. One question - When Passthrough Mode is selected at the Allocation Mode box other videos recommend entering the MAC address of the router, in your case you choose to "choose from list" and that brought up a MAC address without manual entering one. In my case I manually entered the MAC from my router. Help me understand - what is the difference? The MAC address you "selected from list"???? Where did that MAC come from??? I am concerned that my MAC address may not be the correct one. Please reply if you get this notification of my comment. Thanks.

[@MikeMu]

The one from the list is what the router sees as connected. One should match exactly with the one you entered (assuming no other modifications were made).

[@BoeWalls]

Thank you!!

[@asmakki]

At 10 and 24 minutes you discuss the option of disabling WiFi on AT&T gateway. For IP passthrough to work you need to disable both 2.4 and 5 ghz WiFi operation on the AT&T gateway. This will also improve latency (ping)

[@MikeMu]

Hi Ali, I did some side to side tests and it didn't noticeably affect my configurations at all speed, or ping (the signals from both my units were using different frequency spectrums anyway). But that was within a month of the original video posting. Maybe something has changed, and in that case I'd need to do a bit more testing. I'll get to it next month. I'm glad its working out for you, and when someone asks I'll suggest they do just that (disable wifi) as a potential solution if they run into issues. I've since made a video addressing this for people, and also disabled my own AT&T wifi at the same time: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3i5eGdmaa1og5I

[@asmakki]

@@MikeMu thank you for your response. I've had AT&T with this router for a couple years now. I've gone into in depth tech support with them. They explained that wifi must be disabled for ip passthrough to work. Wish we could do a true bridge and get our own hardware.. Appreciate the content. Thanks again!

[@MikeMu]

@@asmakki Thanks! Which level of tech support did you get to? I ask because I've gone up the levels to where one tech said in 15 years, he's never got to that top level guy (which we got to). But only because everyone else below didn't have the authorization to make certain network changes that would bring down entire neighborhoods during troubleshooting. (Which they did, but also fixed everyone elses issues on the same switches). They have certain acronyms for them, I've noted their classifications somewhere on my phone...

[@asmakki]

@@MikeMu yeah I dont think I got that high but the lady I got was extremely knowledgeable. I would recommend you do a speed test on dslreports.com. keep an eye on the ping spikes especially on the upload. If you are experiencing bufferbloat you will need a router with QoS capabilities to limit bandwidth preventing spikes in latency. That was a gamer changer for my network.

[@asmakki]

@@MikeMu ... also let me know how u got that high up in the chain. My ping is at 12 for fiber. Used to be 2ms. Not sure what changed.

[@sophiarodriguez1861]

Thank you for the detailed explanation!

[@DireNeeds]

Thanks for the video. I have just setup an Archer AC4000 and put the BGW210 into passthrough mode. Should I be seeing my internet IP on the WAN side of my Archer? Because right now I'm still getting an IP assigned to the Archer from the BGW210 while in passthrough mode.

[@MikeMu]

LAN port on the BGW210 goes to WAN port of your router.

[@marciotakahashi3153]

Mike, thank you for the detail video. Are you using the AT&T wireless receivers? If you do, do you have any issue with them such as getting disconnect every 10-15 minutes?

[@MikeMu]

Definitely not using the ATT wireless anything. Is that an add on to extend the network?

[@marciotakahashi3153]

@@MikeMu I should had explain that I have uverse, and they provided me with a tv wireless receivers.

[@brendanhayes2752]

Excellent presentation. Thanks

[@theoriginalkikko]

Thanks for this Mike. I want to connect a magic jack and after all the alterations, will the second pan port still work with magic jack? Also, my hp m281cdw is getting a service 79 error ever since I switched the Orbi to the arris modem.

[@Theewalker]

any advice for when you do this but your speeds go from 400-500mpbs up/down to like 50-100mbps on your new router?

[@MikeMu]

Reboot everything. Also disable AT&T wifi ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3i5eGdmaa1og5I ). I made a few videos after this one addressing some of these issues. Sometimes its just straight up AT&T's fault and the only way is to have them replace their equipment (hopefully with the newest model 320).

[@spywolf5]

I read through some reddit posts and they say that the WAN IP on my personal router should be displaying an external IP to show that you're not getting double NAT, but mine shows an Internal IP. Is there any way to see what I did wrong? Also, my wired speeds seems to go down when plugged into my personal router rather directly into the ATT modem/router. Is it okay to keep it directly wired to the ATT modem or will there be security risks? Thanks!

[@spywolf5]

Just in case someone is curious, I finally figured out that the issue was that my router had MAC Cloning enabled, so it would clone the MAC address of my Desktop (for some reason). Hence, when I tried to direct the ATT modem to the MAC address of my router, it does not match. So disabling the MAC Cloning Option and fixed it for me

[@Bigflex_Geff]

i have this exact modem/router from ATT and im trying to use the Netgear orbi 6, its not working for me. I cant get the orbi app to recognize the internet connection. :(

[@SwingingInTheHood]

This is great! I just installed opnsense on a mini pc to use as router on other side of bgw21--100. About to give this a shot. One question: Is there any particular WAN setting I need to make on opnsense router? Or, just plug opnsense WAN port to BGW LAN port?

[@MikeMu]

I haven't used OPNsense before. Just configure to a different IP as shown in the video where necessary. And yes, BGW LAN to your WAN.

[@camf33]

Awesome video! Hey folks so I would assume that I would go from one of the LAN ports (switch) of the ATT BGW210 Router out into the WAN port on my second router. Is this true and correct?

[@AffordBindEquipment]

I just had this BGW210 added today. is there a certain orientation to get the best wifi at the other end of the house? should the side be facing the direction I want to receive or the front facing to this direction?

[@MikeMu]

I haven’t tested it. But I’m thinking vertical first the way it’s designed so don’t lay it flat. Higher up is best. Usually something like this has a general antenna pattern that is omnidirectional.

[@AffordBindEquipment]

@@MikeMu I didn't lay if flat but like a dipole antenna, should the flat side of the case be towards the other end of the house or the front of it. I have it kind of diagonal...best of both worlds...maybe.

[@DR19X]

what firewall would devices use if they are connected wirelessly to att after you disabled the firewall on it and set the ip passthrough?

[@rafaelvilla1744]

Hi Mike, great video, I didn't unplug my Orbi either so it changed the IP. How can I go back into the Orbi settings to change it back? I tried various addresses and I get a WAN Conflict page asking me to sign in

[@MikeMu]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3Ksp4p_ipyDppo

[@nathangiza4052]

Super helpful video, thanks so much! I have one question though. Now that everything is set up since switching to ATT, I can’t log into my Linksys router through the default gateway anymore, the page never loads. I have the settings where I want them but it would be nice to access it for maintenance. Any idea of what’s going wrong?

[@jboy1757]

Great video! Did you have to pay extra for AT&T modem/Wi-Fi? Can one use their own fiber optic modem?

[@MikeMu]

Yes you do. They do build it into the monthly cost here for us in Los Angeles though. Its a mandatory $10 monthly, brings our total to $60 special rate for one year.

[@corbensherlock3337]

Hi Mike - This video helped tremendously as I was setting my network up. However something seems to have changed on network and I was hoping you might be so kind as to help me diagnose a bit. I followed the steps on this video as prescribed all the way up to the step of turning off the existing att wifi. I don’t recall if I turned the wifi off or left it on. Having said that - everything worked very well until I came back from a vacation and noticed incredibly slow speeds on my mesh system. So slow that I was unable to login into vpns. Speed test showed incredibly slow speeds. I also noticed that some devices started connecting back to the original att WiFi. So I went back to this video to see what changed with my setup. All I can tell that seems a miss is that regardless of being on att or my mesh system I can acces the att ip address page without issue. So my understanding is that both routers are aligned to the same IP address that I had previously changed only my mesh network to. For context - My area suffers power and internet outages often and one was experienced between the time it was working well and started having trouble. Also the mesh system I am using is the ASUS zen wifi ax. Does this sound right? Should I simply go back to the att WiFi and change the digit again? Thanks for any help that you can suggest in advance!

[@MikeMu]

Corben, Definitely get a good UPS for your systems - that would prevent a lot of issues with networks. Do not skimp on this. Bigger, the better. And don’t plug anything but your critical network stuff (ie AT&T and your first mesh). Here is one that I use amzn.to/3F0Jr0e. With how little the network equipment draws, I can power the system for hours easy and that’s what you want. You may be having an IP conflict. Maybe the systems got reset during power outage. That would definitely cause the symptoms you see. If you can, log into each of the systems and check the settings. Also check the system logs - they will usually pop up some sort of error. On AT&T side, definitely turn off the Wifi. Make sure no other IP addresses are in use on the local side except the one = Asus Zen Mesh system. If there are, it’s not going work as well and may get bogged down. Maybe while it is still on, some devices reverted to AT&T since that came up first or was primary? On the Asus side - I can’t help much except to check the settings are correct and check the error logs or system logs for some details on what is going on. I haven’t used an ASUS router in years so I don’t know my way around any of the newer stuff (for certainty). Also it is possible your network equipment got damaged from power outages/surges/brownouts. Can’t rule that out. It happens much more often than you would think. So… get that UPS. Good luck! -Mike

[@NikkoNikko98]

Don’t know if you’re still answering questions on this video but the fastest AT&T internet I can get in my area is the 75mbps plan, I have the stock bgw210 modem/router they give you, I bought a net gear xr1000 and wanna get it to work upstairs by running an Ethernet to it from the modem downstairs, probably should’ve found this out before buying but will the xr1000 work with my plan? Do you know if I should just sell it and get something else? Also do you have any idea what modem would be compatible with this plan? Or should I just stick with the bgw210? Thanks so much!

[@LGS_Inc]

I picked up a Nighthawk RAX 50. I tried the pass through mode. On the 1G modem, I am getting 430 mbps download (went up) and my upload dropped to 194 mbps. My android box pulls like 700 mbps from the same 1G switch that the RAX 50 and android box is connected to. I feel like there is room for improvement.

[@alexisjung7347]

Got this installed and working, so thanks for the video! My only question is you disabled the security features on the AT&T modem because Orbi comes with "Armor." However, this is just a 30 day trial. So, did you change back the security to default settings?

[@MikeMu]

I paid for armor. Which also includes protection software for computers. Was worth it.

[@alexisjung7347]

@@MikeMu AT&T provides Active Armor for free though? Or am I confusing 2 x different things

[@jorgevaca5068]

uh hey mike i don’t know if you might reply to me but i had a at&t router and it started getting really slow so i recently got a netgear ac1750 dual band router and i plugged in the ethernet cable and the broadband cable and when i powered on the router it would turn on but when i use it it doesn’t work at all it just says can’t connect to the servers it’s basically like i don’t have wifi and i’m really confused because i don’t know what to do

[@UUser1337]

you can't use your own router lol

[@JJFlores197]

@@UUser1337 That's false. I used my own router when I had AT&T for years. You can't get rid of the AT&T gateway, but you can use your own router if you set things correctly.

[@JJFlores197]

I don't have AT&T anymore, but if you want to use your own router, you should be able to setup IP passthrough on your AT&T gateway. At least you can with AT&T U-Verse/DSL. I don't know if it is similar with their fiber service.

[@UUser1337]

@@JJFlores197 its not false. you can't use your own router natively without bride mode or ip pass through. the commenter didn't say he tried any of those.

[@dcgullatte]

Thanks! This video was exactly what I needed to set up my Nest WiFi Mesh system with my ATT Fiber gateway

[@lifeofeels8271]

Were you able to successfully connect your Nest to ATT Fiber? I jist picked up a Nest too.

[@MikeMu]

Prior to my Netgear Orbi mesh, I also used nest WiFi. But it’s slower. Same instructions.

[@lifeofeels8271]

@@MikeMu thank you for the quick reply! We'll give it a try tonight.

[@MikeMu]

@@lifeofeels8271 You can skip the part about changing the IP address of the AT&T part. Its because Nest Wifi will not conflict with the default IP.

[@lifeofeels8271]

@@MikeMu Should I continue with the ip passthrough? btw, thank you so much for your video and your help.

[@quique07]

Thank you for this video, it helped me a lot. While everything is working and running smoothly, I do noticed my speeds both upload and download are slow. Even when being next to my router....i'm getting only about 150/20 , before using the at&t as router I would get like speeds in the 600s. Anything you would recommend me to do? I didn't turn off the firewalls on the At&T, could this be making the speeds slow? I'm using a TP-Link router Thank you in advance

[@MikeMu]

I did a follow up video on this. Check it out. I’m out biking right now, but just search my channel for At&T.

[@JayKal87]

Thanks, this worked for me! Though when I attempted to set up an additional google wifi point, the original wifi point/router is not finding it. Any thoughts? I wonder if settings need to be changed somewhere.

[@MikeMu]

That’s a google issue. I had that problem from time to time. But my issue may have been different firmwares and different generations of google WiFi meshing together.

[@davids5997]

Mike or James - what are the Device IPv4 address for the google wifi router? is it different then the Orbi? What is the start and end address for the google router as well?

[@MikeMu]

It’s different, and unfortunately I’m out of town. But you can configure it to whatever you want after you get in the configuration page. Google assistance may be able to tell you.

[@ryantaillon5140]

Huge help! Thank you.

[@commongaming793]

I have an 8 port smart managed Netgear switch that connects 5 AT&T U-VERSE tv receivers. Does anybody know what options they should keep turned on in the firewall or did you just shut the firewall off?

[@jerelmercurio4754]

I have this crap box sitting in front of me. I plugged it in, can't access my account and says I have to wait for the snailmail. When in the end. It looks like it'll never work. Ever vid I see has cords hooked up to the back. They said it's plug n play. That no special hookups are needed. At&t is also so hard to get ahold of.

[@justinbirk8434]

Thanks for the video! Total novice. Att is sending me a new bgw210 gateway now, and I just bought the Orbi 6. If I'm setting them both up for the first time is it still necessary to change the ip addresses? Does turning wifi off on the gateway affect the wireless cable receivers connected through the WAP? Last, Costco has a deal for the router plus two satellite package that puts it ~$50 more than the router/1 satellite package. Any harm in adding the extra satellite even if don't really need it?

[@MikeMu]

Hi Justin, I answered some of these in a follow up video FAQ. You will get a conflict because both operate on same subnet as default. I’d recommend changing one or the other. No harm in extra satellites. You don’t have to use it, and if you really don’t need it just sell it.