How to Utilize External MIDI Instruments in Cubase | Q&A with Greg Ondo

This video demonstrates how to use an external MIDI instrument (for example a Yamaha keyboard) with Cubase. Connecting external MIDI instruments via USB MIDI is straightforward and here Greg shows how recording MIDI and then playing it with the instrument’s own sounds through Cubase - including rendering to a Cubase audio track, if desired - is easily accomplished.
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[@timhoke1229]

Perfect explanation. Screwed up on my own twice, followed this, worked like a charm! Thanks!

[@thedp]

THANK YOU ! that explained so many things in a nice short video. this vid should be part of the Cu. install for new users to help with getting started since the manual leaves so many little things. out that this shows - like where to find things.

[@claudius3124]

Great tuto and a very useful one! Thanks Greg! Have a marvelous day!

[@thaexception3406]

I knew Cubase Pro could do it - thank you. This will make having my first hardware synth more efficient; therefore, more fun to use!

[@mskies8643]

Very concise and informative. Needed this info for getting an SC 88 pro running. Thanks.

[@mehranmosaddeq]

I don't have any external Instrument but Wow it's really nice that Cubase is having this feature.

[@Voyagermusix]

it would be amazing to be able to create more than one external instrument per audio-input. so you could have a physical mixer before the interface but still be able to make use of the comfortable external instrument handling.

[@pianodancebandkentcounty]

Very helpful, thank you!

[@ronaldboykin9755]

Ok, I think I’ve got it now! Thanks!

[@dennisionkin3861]

This is fantastic!

[@mattsynth]

I have been working with external instrument in Cubase for over 12 years but it is always nice to see if I am doing it right and getting the most out of this great DAW. Thanks.

[@djRoyalTee]

Likewise...never know when they improve something to help the workflow...always learning :) #djrtnyc

[@johnmanickam61]

Sir you have explained very well

[@flyagaric1607]

really helpful. ty.

[@iamelec]

I should watch tutorials more often! I was so annoyed by the lack of delay compensation for the monitor input function. This makes so much more sense when using IDB effects.

[@gazmellen7881]

amazing there is a script for HPD-15 now any vids on panel editing? where to find community midi devices?

[@dickheaddan4106]

i can get sound playing on my midi.. i can get signal activity and record the notes using my midi.. but I get no sound from the notes upon playback of recording

[@frankiestein8482]

same as me

[@Nomasiac]

Join the club, It records the midi notes but doesn't play it back on the external synth. I can't Mute/Solo the external instrument track I created either SMH

[@dickheaddan4106]

@@Nomasiac I think it has something to do with adding the midi device. My device doesn't pop up on the list but I downloaded that stuff from the manufacturer

[@Darren-wk4hp]

When opening midi device manager it doesn’t see my Roland System 1m. Where might I find this

[@MajorOSC]

Exactly what I needed. I'm finally switching over over from using Ableton for over a decade. Probably would have been better off in cubase from the start but hey better now than never.

[@JanEkbom]

It's a long time since you wrote this, but I'm curious. What made you do the switch?

[@MajorOSC]

@@JanEkbom actually I switched back. I still have a legit copy of cubase, but the workflow in Ableton is much quicker. If I was recording bands, I'd probably used cubase If on PC. Logic if on mac. They're all too notch these days. Doesn't even matter as much these days.

[@ELEKTROGOWK]

Great THX!!!!!!!

[@jmkogey]

Thanks Greg. Great video. I will do like this and set the external instrument instead if creating an audio track to monitor my Tyros 5.

[@Fezzler61]

Hmm. Considering my own question, I see how handy it would be to record midi and have it drive the sound from my Korg microStation because I'd get the benefit of the Korg sounds but ability to edit. Mind bending.

[@UncleDevinShow]

Thank you for your video. I am using the Roland Octapad SPD-30. I have added the external bass drum (Roland KD-7), snare drum (Roland V-Drum) and the Hi-Hat (Roland FD-8) to the Octapad. I use it as my drum set. I know how to record the Octapad drum set into one track. However, is there a way for me to have each individual pad (in this case 11 pads) be recorded into their own individual track simultaneously? I want to be able to do this in case I want to only change the volume of the snare, or tom tom, or cymbal, etc.? I cannot find anything anywhere to show me how to do this. Thanks.

[@azadzeeman1243]

Great video. Question. Is it possible to simultaneously record audio from external synths, with samples played from Cubase?

[@abolit]

I wonder if there's any way to record the style of Yamha Tyros or PSR (multiple parts simultaneously. I can't find any good tutorials on youtube. thanks

[@awpqq]

One thing you didn't mention - when you have the midi instrument - yes you can add effects - but can you vary the volume of the track with the slider? I can't on mine and not sure what I'm doing wrong.

[@The1TheyCallFoo313]

I just jumped from a very old version of cubase, like 5 to 9 elements. As far as mixing vocals go, why when I add effects to audio channel I'm only allowed 8 total fx all together then it says you're at a limit. But if I insert it to the channel strip I can pretty much use as many effects as I want??? 🤔🤔 Am I doing something wrong?

[@theelfchannel]

Thank you

[@wingsofviolin]

i've tried to do you steps with Roland RD-300 Nx .. cubase 10 can see it as midi output .. but i can't add it as midi device or see the my piano banks within the cubase

[@QuantizStudioRecords]

When i render event from Midi to audio....it show an empty event. Why?

[@Steger13]

so we can use any electronic pianos with cubase as long as it habe a MIDI in and out or usb?

[@albertank]

Awesome video: max useful!! Do you have links to download instruments presets?? I wish to install my Behringer Deepmind12, Roland JD-XI and Yamaha FB-01!!

[@robkorteweg]

Where would I be without Greg...

[@EmmanuelArtistry]

Can you layer different patches and play them simultaneously? I get a port open error.

[@nachomoraga535]

Awesome video, now my question is about arpeggiators on the external instrument. I am using Roland System 8 and I cannot figure out how to use a midi controller and the System 8 with its arp. It does not trigger it, only the sound without the arp.

[@Fezzler61]

Home recording hobbyist. I'd say past Beginner, solid Intermediate in skills/knowledge. Do most home recording hobbyists record external device instruments "dry" without effects and add effects in the box? Or like recording a guitar, good habit to record dry and wet? I bought a Korg microStation years ago to have fast access to tons of sounds without taxing the DAW or computer memory. What do most people do when integrating production keyboard sounds?

[@_erikhanson]

thanks. is there a way to record a performance in real time? rather than having to render in place?

[@simzkulla4962]

Dope

[@Skiroy]

How do u add midi delay offsets for each midi device in Cubase? I mean Globally to not have to do it for each track you add for that device. Is there a negative delay you can set to automatically carry over to every kind of track you add with that External Instrument?

[@foxproduction4554]

please help, why i cant use more than one instance of my yamaha mx61 synth as a vst plugin? it is possible only as midi instruments...any help?

[@christozzi47]

Thank you for this video. This is exactly what I want to do but I own both a Yamaha Clavinova CVP-609 and Yamaha MU50 and there are no scripts included for these instruments in Cubase 13. I would like to connect these devices with a device script if possible. Any idea where I might go about finding one? If not, is there a template for creating device script or a third party utility that can generate one that is compatable with Cubase? Thanks!

[@musicjossoficial]

I need add diferents synths but only have a txt file , how can add this instruments ?

[@jonahwaltonmusic]

How does Cubase handle this setup if you have like 4 external keyboards but they are all coming in on the same audio input? Would the sound be duplicated 4 times? This is the issue I have with Logic.

[@aribenjamin862]

This is great, thanks! But the delay I'm experiencing from hitting the key to hearing the sound is extreeeeeemely long. Almost 1/3 of a second. Any smooth fixes to this?

[@user-kp5kg5dl8h]

I can't seem to find any sort of tutorial that properly describes not only how to set up a generic remote for a transport and for some sort of basis for controls, but also how to set up the midi controller to work within individual VST instruments. For example, when I open up Kontakt libraries' violin, there are knobs for Attack and so on that appear on Kontakt's VST interface. I've tried right-clicking the knobs and telling it to "Learn", but it doesn't work -- the problem is that all my knobs do the same thing, which is panning the speakers left and right. Or my sliders, which just turn the volume up or down. I thought this video might explain that, but nope! Could someone PLEASE direct me to the right place? :)

[@johnmilitano5021]

Can anyone share why you cannot control the volume after you load an instrument track?

[@bmusician08]

This is not always working. It seems if I have a project with external Synth with MIDI ( Program selector) say to Steel Guitar, when I close the project and reopen. When Start play back, it does not play with Steel Guiar! I have to go to Program selector choose another patch ( say nylon guitar), playback Cubase, now it plays its with nylon guitar and now select my original Steel guitar to play! Any fix to this? My External Synth is PSR-A3000 by Yamaha.

[@hormyification]

Plz can anybody explain how to receive and send midi ( Filter Frequency and Resonance from my Synth ( Novation Summit)? basic midi functions are working and i have my synth setup as a external instrument

[@sandrakay1854]

Ugh Need a teacher for This program. Regardless I’ll just have to teach myself when producing with this new program

[@Metaxasofc]

How youdo you have sound when you rendering in place? Do you use control room? Is it possible to have sound at rendering in place without control room? i think i had it but suddenly

[@MarcoPolux]

what about sending from CUBASE the clock to the external Synth? is it possible? (mark the tempo in Cubase and that the synthesizer receives its clock and gets to tempo....)

[@jeffheftyhorn]

Thanks Greg. By the way, does the Yamaha Studio Manager work with Cubase 11 on Mac Monterrey? I've never been able to get it to work. Thanks.

[@meljames2729]

Late on the scene, I am trying t hook up a jv1080 to Cubase, followed your video instructions and get no sound. Connections on the hardware JV1080, Midi In and Audio Outs, Komplete Kontrol s61 Midi Out, Komplete Audio 6 Audio Inputs L and R, any ideas as to what could be wrong

[@spacebrain1971]

Thank you Greg. I have one additional question. I have a dsi rev2 with a vst editor that I can load as a vst instrument. Is it possible to define an audio input for a vst instrument because I usually have to create an additional audio track to hear the audio of my rev 2. Thank you in advance.

[@gregondo376]

You can associate the VST editor with your external instrument.

[@spacebrain1971]

Greg Ondo thank you Greg. I'll give it a try. Where can I do the association. Within the external instrument or the vst instrument? I'll check back with you and let you know if it works. Kind regards.

[@bsbazzman]

Hi Greg! So I just followed what you did but I am not getting any sound from my Typhon external synth but am getting sound from the internal mic on my mac. Any ideas what I need to do to be able to get my Typhon sound instead? Thanks!

[@sandrakay1854]

This video is simple but looking at the layout of the program looks like I’ll have to reset getting customized to a brand new program which takes work

[@martycampbell310]

Great video..... I have one question, I'm using a Yamaha DTX drum kit as my external instrument. MIDI records perfectly and I can render in place. But when i dissolve the part into separate pitches, the routing sections says that there is no external instrument. When i click on the drop down, the DTX option isnt there, only Groove Agent. I cannot render the individual items. Any idea what Im doing wrong? Many thanks!!

[@OKeefeMusic1986]

Followed this made sense however it didn't work ... when i render the track the audio track is blank

[@ProzKhmer]

I really need help with converting external midi instrument sounds into Cubase. How come I don’t see the external instruments tab in my Cubase 10 Artist? I want to do routing as shown in this video, but I don’t the external instruments tab in Cubase 10 Artist. Is this function only available in the Pro version? Thanks.

[@MINDoSOFT]

Yes it appears to be available only in the Pro version as mentioned here. steinberg.help/cubase_pro_artist/v9/en/cubase_nuendo/topics/vst_connections/vst_connections_external_instruments_and_effects_c.html

[@jennyjordansmusic]

Hi Greg, I'm having trouble getting this to work with Cubase LE AI Elements 8 and my Yamaha MOXF8 keyboard. I was able to connect the keyboard in the MIDI Device manager but when you go to "Audio Connections" and then External Instruments, I wasn't able to follow that because I'm not even seeing an Audio Connections tab. Is this not a feature in Cubase 8?

[@hiolikristo8802]

Hey there Greg how u doing. So I bought a worlde tuna mini midi but I don't get any connections and it is not in the install page nor on their website . Can u pls help me to figure out what is going on

[@ronaldboykin9755]

Greg, I purchased the Sounds of Soul - VST Sound Instrument Set for Retrologue from the online shop but I didn't get activation code. I talked to Steinberg support and they said that It doesn't need this it automatically works once it's installed but I don't see it in media bay or Retroloque!

[@Cubase]

Hello, in that case then please contact support again about your issue.

[@LouisToteda]

If you have more the one instruments do you have to buy a bigger sound interface? I own a UR44 that's not big enough to handel 2 extra keyboards??THanks

[@teddym2808]

yes.. I recommend presonus quantum.. ultra low latency and 24 inputs.. that's the way to go and the interface i recommend to anyone these days that want to monitor through the DAW.

[@simzkulla4962]

That is great. It worked for me until I tried playing back the midi information recorded. I can hear the external instrument when I play it, but the recorded midi information does not playback. Is there something I missed? I use a Yamaha MX61 Synth.

[@Nomasiac]

Did u find a solution? Having the same problem with my Roland Synth SMH. It's driving me nuts. I can't Mute/Solo the external synth track either.

[@finsterbaby1996]

@Simz Kulla I had this same problem, but another KZbinr reminded me that you have to play the MIDI information you recorded in Cubase BACK to the external instrument from which it was recorded. Then once you've recorded all your MIDI tracks, edited them, etc., in order to NOT have to have them play back through your external instrument(s) anymore, you have to create an Audio track for each MIDI track, arm it for recording, Solo the MIDI track you want to record to the new Audio track, and then just hit the main Record button. This will lock in the sound from your external instrument as an Audio signal (where you can't edit the notes or anything else you can do with MIDI information), and then add effects and whatever else you want to do and do your final mix-down and exporting. Hope this is clear enough to be helpful, even after your 3-year-old post.

[@yeppy013]

I’m little confused. Is this the same method you would use to bring in Moog analog synthesizer sounds into Cubase?

[@Cubase]

Hello, yes.

[@ohmslawmusic]

Thanks for posting. I’m using a UR824 and have eliminated the mixer due to physical space. The zero latency monitor is very good. But, one issue I’ve run into is zero latency monitoring works are regular audio tracks but doesn’t appear to work with external instrument tracks. Any ideas? I use a lot of outboard synthesizers and instead of using external instrument tracks I’m creating individual midi and audio tracks to take advantage of zero latency monitoring. Thanks again.

[@teddym2808]

Hi, to use the zero latency DSP mixing of the UR824 with external instruments, you would use a normal midi track triggering the external synth, and have the instrument plugged into an audio input of the UR824.. The external instrument tracks are not being routed through the DSP mixer at all AFAIK.. You'd need to bypass the UR824 mixer to use the external instrument track of Cubase but then you'd be subject to the monitoring latency of the in and out latency of the UR824's normal driver.

[@pandasdream2588]

I have faced this also on my attempt to use external instrument. Yes, Cubase compensates delays when it plays the project, it is great. Also I can use Cubase VST-effects, this is also great. But if I play on the midi-keyboard, external synth sounds with a small but noticeable delay.

[@ResonanceTorino]

Greg, I have various old 16 midi channel devices (K2500R, proteus, korg03rw), can I manage midi multichannel, as I do with my VirusTI? How to load multiple instance of external instrument? it is possible?

[@mitchiemasha]

Yes. You simply create a new midi track and route it to the midi device that has been loaded as a VST external instrument. Set the midi channel to the right midi number. You'll still get all the names in the inspector. Some synths like the CS2x have master fx and the performance part is the first 4 midi channels (Midi 2-4 can be used for other device). Even though the CS2x is only a 1 performance synth, the other midi are material layers, stacking the midi channels we can recreate the performance sounds. I've expanded The Nord 2, Jv1080, Drum/Bass Station and the CS2x instrument lists. the ones that come with cubase don't go deep enough into their content. I forget how the Proteus handles performance and material voices. I sold my Emu's some time back.

[@rijswijkhansvan]

I need a Roland RD-700nx device file. Not available at the Roland site. Make one myself? I contacted several members on the Steinberg forums site but no response yet. Suggestions?

[@lwpweb]

can i drag drop the midi of this created external instrument to the sampler track? (which is as regular midi file not possible)

[@mikhailalexandrovichrimsky5501]

Just give it try! ;-)

[@ronaldboykin9755]

Greg, thanks for the advice but it didn't work. My situation relates to a VST drum multisampled patch that's triggered by a midi track that I exploded into several midi tracks which I wanted to render each in mono but I doesn't seem to work with Cubase or I'm kind of lost on it. It seems to render each midi track out of the main bus in stereo. It did work a few times when I did a export mixdown but that's all I could get out of Cubase!

[@gregondo376]

This video should help kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaXYpmB4gpuFgbM

[@maxinagl]

If i open my audioconnections tab, I dont see a bar with external instruments. I only have outputs and inputs. What do I do from here?

[@JaneHawkner]

Neither do I.

[@LBintheMix]

I am having the same issue. I have Cubase AI Le and assume that’s the issue. I wonder if it is possible to do on that version as well.

[@biggejf]

Does this work in cubase elements? Anybody?

[@prewinder]

Nice tutorial, but as for device maps... I googled for midi device maps for Clavia, Waldorf and Roland synths and found nothing. So that part seems false, if there are any device maps on the web for download they are well hidden. Why not just put up a space for them on the Stainberg forums or something?

[@bigmoneysteppa]

Remember when it was all you could do. Still legendary.

[@gregondo376]

I have a room full of legendary instruments that I don't use anymore. :)

[@bigmoneysteppa]

Greg Ondo but they taught you so much. Broke out the fizmo last week. Lost a whole day making atmospheres.

[@ronaldboykin9755]

How do I render in place a mono track!

[@gregondo376]

Create a mono out in the VST connections, it does not have to be sent anywhere and can be left as not connected. Route the output of the instrument in the mixer to the mono out and render in place,

[@FirstWorlder]

Great, but it looks to me like this only works in the PRO version. It would be nice if you guys tagged what version u are demo-ing on.

[@ben_swain]

yeah I don't see this option in Cubase Elements 10.5

[@TanyaOwens]

So I have the Yamaha PSR-275 it is 61 keys has midi in/out. I connected the midi cables to the UR242 and the Line Out to 3/4 on the UR242. I can hear it play, but I cannot record anything. There is no map for the PSR-275 in Cubase, so I created a device, but still cannot record whether I am on an instrument track or midi track. Also selected the map to the PSR-530 to see if it would work and still cannot record. I press record and it doesn't lay anything down. I created an instrument track for the HaLion and used my Nektar Impact LX25+ as the keyboard and it recorded that track. I really want this to work especially since it is 61 keys I can use it as a midi keyboard for any VST instrument. - HELP.

[@TanyaOwens]

I figured it out --- Midi Out goes to Midi in & vice versa. But how do I set up the PSR-275 midi map so I can record the instruments? I have 480.

[@user-dv5ri2no7p]

There is an issue with the sequencer in "midi insert" where note length values ​​do not respond correctly. No matter how short you set the synthesizer's decay, the sequencer will respond to the correct note length only when you play a chord. But if you record it as midi, when you play it back, you'll immediately hear the note length become sluggish because it doesn't match the decay of the synth. This is rubbish. Even if you modify the length in the plug-in, it will not match. To summarize, the length of the notes you hear when you play a chord is not the same as the length of the notes you hear when you record it as midi and then play it back.I'm using c12.

[@Eden_Rubin_Music]

Is there any way to use your Synth more than one sound at a time? I have MOX8 of YAMAHA and allows me to use one sound each time, which means that i basically can't play other sound if I want to use two sounds combined, only if i Render it, which is bummer to wait every time until it finish to do it on real time.

[@finsterbaby1996]

@eden rubin Just an idea, but does your Yamaha have a "Layer" function that allows you to combine two (or more) tones and then play and record them all into one track in Cubase? If not, if you want two (or more) sounds from your Yamaha to play exactly the same notes, you can always just copy one track to another after setting up the correct patch(es) in Cubase. Hope this helps.

[@Eden_Rubin_Music]

@@finsterbaby1996 i was more talking about two different parts. You cant make two prts with different sound, you have to render each one of them every time and doing it with the current settings, if you'll change the sound in your synth and won't save it as a preset you'll need to do all the settings again. I'm not complaining, its cool to have this ability to make your synth become a VST in your DAW, but it's still a hassle

[@finsterbaby1996]

@@Eden_Rubin_Music Ok, I think now I understand what you're trying to do. If so, what you need to do is set each sound that you want to record and later play back to a different MIDI channel in Cubase. For example, if you want to use a piano sound, set it up in Cubase as channel 1, for a bass sound, set it as channel 2, and so on. I have been trying to do this same thing with my keyboard in Cubase for almost 6 years, and I finally got it to work just a few nights ago. But another step that I had to do was to enter the corresponding Bank number and Patch number into the MIDI editor for each track. Your keyboard instructions should have come with a list of all the sounds in it with these numbers, or you may have to download the list from their support website. My problem was that the patch numbers in my list needed to be increased by one number to play back the correct sound. I have no idea why this was, but as I said, it took me nearly 6 years, and some accidental messing around with the numbers to find it out. But now that I have, I can finally use all the great sounds on it instead of having to search through my libraries of VSTs to find sounds that I want to use. I hope I understand what you're trying to do and that this helps this time.

[@rolandgerard6064]

It works fine however you have indeed to render the track to free the “external vst” to be able to use the “external vst” on a new track. One track at the time.

[@travisepps9695]

I having the same issue where I can only do one sound at a time from my external keyboard and I haven't quite yet figured out how to free up the external vst device.😳 Do I completely delete the original external device track after rendering to audio, and create it again with a new sound? Shouldn't I be able to utilize 16 tracks from the external device and render all those tracks to individual audio tracks?

[@rolandgerard6064]

@@travisepps9695 16 tracks would be nice indeed :-) When i have rendered the track, i keep the midi track of the external vst but i remove the external vst linked to it. Once done i can reassign the external vst to a new track. Cumbersome but i do not have found an alternative way to do it.

[@northnyanga7532]

Steinburg XML File????????

[@bossgiancana]

hey so when the banks are on the side do those trigger on your keyboard and change sound from say piano to organ? If so mine doesn't work. I have a Roland E09.

[@Ryan.Anderson80]

When rendering in place, how do I u mute the original track instrument? Pressing the mute button on the track itself doesn't seem to work.

[@StevieH666]

Reson8s have you pressed the monitor button on this track?

[@gregondo376]

You can choose to mute the original track within the render in place settings.

[@zaharishtonov]

Or mute the MIDI clip itself.

[@KitKalvert]

why has eveything got to be so complicated with it... i mean... i WAS about to get a minilogue and do this exact thing but guess what... no device file for it only midi driver installer... Honestly at this rate im just about done and ready to download DIVA

[@HENJAM48]

I'm not enjoying this whole experience. I cannot even find that recording window that you have open on AI 10! I have a rack of vintage gear that I want to use with a USB Keyboard, Cubase and a 64bit win 7 laptop.

[@JanEkbom]

I need a tutorial on how to set it up with a Waldorf Kyra. An external synth that is not on the list. It's really, really difficult to get it working. This tutorial is more of a show off.

[@magicbuskey]

Why is your youtube intro theme music so much louder than your voice? It’s hurting my eardrums and I really like what you are teaching.

[@Cubase]

Hi, so just lower the volume of your speakers or your interface, perhaps?

[@mikhailalexandrovichrimsky5501]

@@Cubase How? ;-)

[@Jayarbuck]

(Warning for photosensitive viewers: this video contains some imagery that may cause issues for some viewers, including at the very beginning)

[@usafirefly7967]

You show just a little of what can be done! Great! BUT why is the pace too fast? It simply is too fast! If you paused, REPEATED, and say it twice for each crucial thing you do it would help.

[@jptaylor]

Too much setup just to play an external instrument. Logic Pro X just works instantly. None of this jumping through so many hoops just to record external MIDI - for heaven's sake! Way too much hassle.

[@thefreaks3231]

Yeah not gonna lie, watching this video gave me a headache...did this dude create four tracks just to record one thing?

[@CC-fi3pp]

Other simpler programs are hiding parts of the process from you, which is bad.

[@roadiesmusic3170]

Really annoying you can't use render in place on multiple midi tracks when setting the external synth as a rack, the same way you could with a virtual instrument setup as a rack. The only other method I can see is using a bothersome macro. There's no logical reason to not include this functionality as all Cubase would need to do is solo the channel and then real-time render it down as the same with virtual instruments.

[@au66621]

OMG this is sooo complicated thats not funny.Compared to Ableton this is just way too complicated for no reason. Steinberg please learn workflow from Ableton!!!!

[@sluggy6074]

What a nightmare

[@calikokat100]

u lost me :)