How to VERIFY a 1969 Camaro Z/28 | FULL GUIDE

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[@benburra6655]

I need to tell you that you are absolutely the most knowledgeable person regarding these classics I have ever listened to on something near and dear to me. My dad owned 2 Standard Oil (later Amaco) service stations. Growing up in that era and in that environment I was exposed to all manner of speed. But “Bow Tie” power was the king. Vettes, Chevelles, Chevy II, and of course in 67 the Camaro. I remember being 11 years old and helping to swap cams in a 64 Chevelle 327 and remove the caps off the headers at Oswego Drag Strip on Sundays for a guy that worked for the old man many years. Muscle and speed along with the thump you got in your chest, the little ache in the palm of your right hand from the stick and the vibrations in the seat of you pants with these cars is still irreplaceable today. In 1974 I was a sophomore at Holy Cross HS, working part time for a friend of my dad’s that owned 2 Shell service stations easily accessible by CTA bus to someone still 6 months away from from his license and the transportation to go along. The old man made a deal with me…maintain my grades & extracurricular commitments, be employed, come up with half the cost of the car, all the insurance money for two years, ensure it was something I could keep in repair myself and he’d douple the cash for the car. I did just that. A friend from the Shell stations, Kevin Burkheldt, was going away to pharmacy school in Dekalb, IL at NIU and had to sell his car. A 69 LeMans Blue, RS package, Z28…$1600. I had more than enough saved. Told the old man I found a Camaro…leaving out the”Z” part. Drove out to Irving Park & St Louis in Chicago in his 68 Mustang and pulled in the lot. I ran out and he just sat there…”GET IN” is all he said…3 times. “That’s NOT a Camaro”! He went on to say two things would were certain if he allowed me to get that car…I’d be dead and he’d be divorced. I ended up with a 4 door, 63 Impala, 250 “Iron Duke, and a “power-slide” 2-speed for $300 cash that I put upper & lower joints & all the linkage in, then was made to align it myself ( or pay one of his guys $30 to do it). That was 50 years ago…almost. My dad just turned 88 last week, I’ll be 66 in October. Not a Mecum or Barret auction goes by where I do not leave the room or switch the channel wondering WTF happened! Of course he was probably correct… maybe nor dead & divorced but certainly “license compromised” so to speak. Anyways…your knowledge is outstanding…great video! Thanks…

[@phoenixblack1220]

Your knowledge on these cars is astounding! There is so much about the Z/28 I never knew. Great information!!

[@bartsimpson6767]

The tach was feed by the distributor not the transmission...

[@nanny1984goat]

no wasted time, all good info!! I would love an Indepth video of the DZ motor and breakdown info just on the motor setup options.

[@glennhusman9861]

We ordered our Z28 RS October 28 1968. I ordered both spoilers. It was built 2nd week of February. Trim tag does NOT have the D80. Window sticker shows D80. But back is a 68 spoilers. Repainted in 2018-2020 and now has 69 spoiler and ZL2 hood and air cleaner. Nice video/talk. We drive around 3,000 each year.

[@markweber7275]

Parker keep finding those Z28’s. Am a Ford enthusiast however appreciate all muscle cars. Great history lesson. Thanks again.👏

[@Cartier_specialist]

Those Chevy 302s were quite the screamer. I don't recall off the top of my head but I think they revved to about 8000 rpm.

[@michael184272]

WOW.. extremely interesting and informative..thanks

[@vsavage_old_rockerz]

once again, great information. at 60 years of age and being a common working man, i aint ever gonna get one of these, but have rode in a few of them over the years. my ratty 71 Camaro will have to do. peace

[@RobertDean-x5e]

Very knowledgeable, Parker ! I found a Z28 on Volo auto cars for 150 K but when I realized it had new rocker panels, new fenders, new doors and new quarter panels, I decided I didn’t want to buy a China car ! Having said that who only knows how many other things that were wrong with the car . So many people restoring these Camaros for quick profits I would only buy Z 28 if it was an unmolested original . Or at least one totally documented.

[@georgehill7881]

GM ONLY MADE 20,302 1969 Z28's. Lots of fakes out there ! But I was honored to have 2 in my life - one brand new and other one from the original owner. Unfortunately at the time, Family Obligations took a priority.

[@carlosgarza1962]

Parker keep up the awesome content. Really like watching your videos

[@steves9905]

great info and well presented. lotsa Z wannabe's out there, so good to know how to find out. I was looking at Camaro SS's for a while...they have their own unique traits too...esp the BB cars

[@thehillbillyhoarder4996]

Very nice video. Thank you for taking the time to make it.

[@z28jake]

I bought my Z from my oldest brother 36 years ago. Came close to selling it a couple times over the years(family, multiple homes, shift work) but managed to keep it. I had it certified( like 20 years ago) from GM Canada’s antique car division( yeah, I’m a Canuck). I don’t know if they still do this…pretty sure this service wasn’t provided in the States. They provided the build sheet with all the options the car came with. The one thing I’m curious about, is the hedder’s that were on it when I bought it. Supposedly( urban legend?)GM offered a set of Doug Thorley hedders in the trunk as an undocumented option.I’ve seen pictures of the hedders and these look identical ( they’re stored in my attic in my shop. Has anybody with a Z encountered this “option”. Oh, still have the car…it’s all done( some things not original but I added them when body and paint happened 18 years ago…cowl induction hood, chrome trim, 15x10 rear rally rims off a Vette). It is a scary, fun car.

[@rogerchevelle8543]

Great video. You do know your camaros well.👍

[@BIG-BLOCKS-R-US]

I like your show, I used to care about such things myself. you are fun to watch.

[@garydwylie5988]

If the cowl hood on a '69 Z28 was installed at the factory during assembly, on the rear drivers side corner of the hood is a 'date stamping' (week number of the mfg). Aftermarket or OTC hoods do not have the date code stamping.

[@zcam1969]

i believe you are right ! plus there there were more Cowl Hood cars than what was mentioned here

[@haroldbirge6881]

🍀Very cool 😎✌️

[@tobywhitaker4246]

Tach went to distributor, not transmission

[@Boobtube.]

I was thinking same thing when he said that.

[@brandonhelfrick1639]

Awesome video keep em coming

[@raymondjastrzab9855]

Amazingly informative. Thank you for such a thoughtful and well presented discussion. I hope to eventually own one someday. My parents wouldn't let me get one in 1986 when I turned 16... but they d I d buy me a 1975 big bumper, larger rear window, 6 cylinder 250... Hey... they were worried about me *and my lead foot. 😅

[@zcam1969]

yeah i bought one in 1982 when i turned 18 against my moms decision .lol

[@zcam1969]

parents "" you going to wreck and kill somebody in that car '' lol

[@danbaumann8273]

I remember long ago when a guy tried to sell me a Z/28 with a 327 and a 2 speed automatic. 🤣

[@stevenlaubach5947]

Allot of great info I never knew, thank you.

[@johnnylarue2135]

Hi Parker....I've heard it's more difficult to determine the validity of a 68 Z28 so I'm wondering if you have a list of things I should look for. I know it has the 15" tire sticker in the glovebox and the engine has the suffix 'MO'. You seem to have good knowledge of these cars so any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Mike

[@robertdean6222]

Outstanding information thank you for sharing

[@peterjohannsen8472]

Great info and detail!

[@markclark250]

Great video! Any chance this info is written down somewhere? Otherwise I'll rewatch and make a list when I go to check out a car tomorrow.

[@skylarsoper241]

Man to find one 1000% original would be 🤯🥇, day two mods were so common

[@zcam1969]

they had 2 build sheets one on the quarter window and one under the rear seat . the early models had a 7000 rpm tack . later they had a 8000 rpm tack

[@MrRoadster100]

Recommend you contact Glen Husman who made a comment below this video --- while you have an original buyer/owner that you could talk to personally about specific things --- what came with the car, what's been changed (if anything), etc. He knows who you are, so hopefully, he'd let you photograph it.

[@dickeymoore3662]

Whats the code for the rear fold down seat on 1969 Z28?

[@JPYFDR1]

A67

[@Cats.in.Tuxedos]

really?.... I didn't know there was a fold down seat !

[@EdwinAlvarado-h9x]

Hi Also it has screw factory holes on each side of the chassis for hanger of the tail pipes from factory. I guess only SS and Z/28 had them. My is a cal car lots of research to see it's a real Z/28 has a 427 motor. when I got her 40 years ago no motor.

[@christinemocadlo769]

Awesome Video!

[@donlukes2805]

Can you recommend any manuals on the 69 Z28

[@thekillercapricorn6334]

Good stuff Parker.👍

[@jerrybucholtz3418]

How do I get the 1st gen Z 28 ID numbers?

[@lonniekiser3612]

Great info Bud. 👍

[@lawrencemanhart2157]

Great video BTW.

[@brucewolfe5204]

Nice job. I try to watch your videos

[@BIG-BLOCKS-R-US]

My Favorite car and I have a rare Pontiac Z/28, I know it's real because it has a Z/28 emblem on it......

[@darrellsomers5427]

Just run the engine # against the vin Norwood cars are easy to see if its a real Z Los Angeles cars just see the engine code and the vin easy as that ,it doesn't have to have the d80 option or the zl2 option to be a real z ,Norwood cars got the same color of the stripes were painted the same color of the stripe under the section under the piece in front of the windshield

[@lawrencemanhart2157]

Cowl tag says 05D. Also has X33D80 on it.

[@nathanburton8479]

interesting @lawrencemanhart2157 my 69 camaro is a 05C x33 car without the d80 code paint code on mine is a 72 B

[@MichaelFunderburk]

Can you do a video of a 1969 Camaro X11

[@LarryVanfleeren]

You come across a 69Z 28 Byron fine in Georgia or Tennessee or Alabama I would be interested.

[@rickshannon6848]

I had a very, very, Rare 1 of Only Special 500 Special Made it Had Corvette Running Gear a 427 bored out from the Factory balancaed and Blue Printed it had 675 Horse Power , muncie syncro 4 Speed it had sripe on front and back , Deep Sea Green , white Stripe the Big S S on the Front never seen one like it ?

[@bakersfieldre]

thanks for the info..I have a 69 that checks all of the boxes to verify it is an actual Z, but I know the original motor for this car is gone. It appears to be a 400..What would the value difference be in this situation..? thanks

[@chuckeecheese162]

Nicely done

[@KeithZimmerman-jl5yc]

Do I understand it correctly that 69 Z/28's were not yet produced at Norwood in October of 1968? I have a pre-X code 69 Camaro that has Z/28 labeling and several features that match Z/28, including the 5.80" pitman arm, Muncie 4-spd, and more, but it was built in October 1968 in Norwood and has a 350 crate Vortec replacement engine so I can't match engine block to VIN, and is very difficult to tell whether it started life as a Z/28. It also has 5-leaf rear springs, but had other traction-enhancing additions such as traction bars, so the rear springs could have possibly been replaced. VIN is 124379N526957

[@bentheredonethat5541]

Staggered shocks?

[@berlives68]

What percent of 1969 z28 had m22 transmissions?

[@jeffagain3384]

I am appraising a 69 camaro that is supposed to be a SS car. But, the cowl tag has no X code on it and there are some other discrepancies that make me question the car to be an SS car. It is supposed to be a SS350 but there is no X11 or X55 code assigned to it. I am wondering if it is a base camaro with SS badging?? your thoughts. thanks much

[@backyardbarnfinds]

Watch all my Camaro videos and you will be able to know exactly what it is.. that’s why I make them 👍

[@darrellsomers5427]

All v8 cars got q 3/8 fuel line lol ,there bumper guards not bumpertets ,bumperrets are 68

[@vincedaly3379]

Looking to buy a Camaro already have it located. Not sure how to read the vand could you help?

[@4tsisters202]

Can you do a video on a 68 Z28 ?

[@hansjensen7823]

Great video!

[@scottwheeler2371]

I have a 69 R/S Z/28. Mine has X33 on trim tag. Build date is 03D but you say my VIN should start with 61 if it was March. My VIN starts with 287. Is my trim tag a fake then?

[@backyardbarnfinds]

Send pic to my email [e-mail]

[@kevinmurphy-k1i]

i have 69 z-28 dz 302 x-33d80 no vin number next to v0110 dz why?

[@jamesshingledecker4098]

So no big blocks in the Z/28

[@Boobtube.]

no, at least the 1st gen.

[@jamesruston8047]

I have a 1979 z28 do you know how decode the vin its had 14 owners

[@garydwylie5988]

The VIN on '69 Camaro Z28 does NOT show up in both locations referenced; only one of them.. either on the front pad with the engine application stamping, OR on the block casting near the oil filter (which are very difficult to read even if the engine is out of the car.

[@Super396chevelle]

Can you do a video for an SS350 to verify it.

[@scoopervisorservices7374]

After your detailed video I digged in to my x33 fathom green dark green interior built In 69 Jan 2nd week But behind the rear seat I found a DG3 code not X33 Is that means Dark green x33?

[@stevec.6819]

My week 2 Jan. car was garnet red, deluxe int. flat hood no spoilers.

[@macg5607]

Do 69 Z/28's have a little proportion valve on the sub frame driver side also? Or only on 68 Z/28's , thank you for your videos they are great!

[@jamesdalton7191]

Z28's and SS cars have the residual valve.

[@macg5607]

@@jamesdalton7191 I believe z/28 and big block Camaros have it, thank you

[@Boobtube.]

69's have it. I am not knowledgeable about the 68's to say yes or no.

[@darrellsomers5427]

You should have mentioned the tech but you didn't on a real Z/28 67-68 z cars had tin valve covers 69 were cast aluminium like the 7o lt1 z

[@theamateurbackyardgardener543]

“A lot of Z28 cars have had their cowl tags remade” WTF is he talking about? Front spoilers? “This is the wrong booster for this car”- tapping on the master cylinder. And more…..

[@richpatera4783]

i looked at a 69 z 3rd owner said it had the org motor it had a dz on the pad whit build date no vin on the pad or by the oil filter could this be correct.?

[@drumrooster]

Yes.

[@michaelgrieco8810]

How would you identify a foreign built z/28 specifically from Caracas Venezuela. 12437JC105138 How can I reach you? Mike

[@gregpiecuch3802]

Parker, do you know why the original 302 was pulled?

[@steves9905]

prob so the owner could hoon around without damaging a numbers matching engine

[@backyardbarnfinds]

Steve has the right idea

[@KyleBartholomew-d5r]

Hello! I just watched your videos on identifying a real 1969 Z/28. I need a little more help. Would you be interested in helping me?

[@user-qr7ee2cp4y]

Why would you take a legit collectible like this car and change the color? That has to effect the resale... bolt ons are easily reversible but paint is tough.

[@DarrellWells-wy9mx]

Just hold the camera

[@Jerry-pt9wi]

could a 69 z come with torque thrust wheels, i thought my neighbors hugger orange 69 had them on. i gave him $2.00 to drive it, 13 yrs old, and would buy 1 now if the wife would give me $120,000

[@johnr5252]

These cars with that little 302 don’t stack up well vs the Mopar muscle of the same period. Not really close.

[@Cats.in.Tuxedos]

my Z's power was 5k to 7.5k..... terrible off the line but factory built for road racing....

[@drumrooster]

Little motor lol..2900lb car vs a 4000 lb car you obviously were never street racing back in the 70s 80s

[@drumrooster]

@Cats.in.Tuxedos you must of had a 373 gear.. they needed a low gear.I ran a 456 with a m20 it was a beast

[@drumrooster]

@Cats.in.Tuxedos they needed a low gear to really turn on in the quarter.I ran a 456 And when I hit 3rd, it was like a small hit of NOS lol

[@ryandominiack9677]

Man, this guy knows his Camero’s.

[@stuartmr4spdclark600]

I'm going to be as nice as I can because I am a bit confused about what you are saying in your video concerning the realness of this supposedly real Z/28 you say it is a p/s car however it has a manual steering box you mentioned the tach and if it was a factory tach equipped car there would be a hole by the fuse box where the wire would go through and attach to the transmission, that is not how a tachometer works you mentioned that it would have a proporstioning valve underneath it on the sub frame and thank is not true also the vin number difference between a V8 and a inline 6 is 12437 =V8 the 6cyl is 12467 not 12337 I also know that the 69 cowl tag really doesn't give you a lot of information aside from the usual but it is correct about the Xcode not criticizing you just trying to clarify

[@backyardbarnfinds]

You are confused.. everything you mentioned is wrong.. I have many videos related to z28 on the channel.. check them out 👍

[@selbster1726]

@@backyardbarnfinds He is correct about the tach. They do not use transmissions for a signal. My 69 Z has a documented factory tach and its ignition driven as they all were. The rest of the video is pretty spot on to me. Nice work!

[@canusakommando9692]

It just doesn't sound correct. ZEEE 28 is absolutely wrong. I wish you guys would say it proper. ZED 28!!! Zeee 28 sounds feeble instead of a Hemi killer! Zed 28 sounds mean, Hemi killing all day long.

[@BrianCarter-cb6qq]

Hi I’m about to buy a Z28 and the guy has no paperwork but it says x33 on the tag. 124379N618750. Rear drum brakes it also has no passenger side side mirror 😅3/24/69 production date

[@lawrencemanhart2157]

How can you tell the month it was built from the VIN? It’s obvious on the cowl tag but not the VIN. I’m looking at one that looks just like the one in the video. VIN: 124379N645653. Thx.

[@backyardbarnfinds]

www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#HowMany

[@TRUTH4U2NO]

IF your 69 is not a RS Z28 then NO ONE GIVES A SHIT!!!

[@captainbuttnuggets4786]

I learned from an expert that all 69 camaros (except the SS) came with silver grills so you had the option to get the black grills

[@drumrooster]

Wrong

[@briangerdts3647]

The larger bumper guards were to comply with some states’ bumper height requirements. The heavy duty leaves in a Z sometimes made it too high(i believe they were too high) so the latger bumperettes ensured at least a piece of the bumper was the right height, passing regulation on a technicality

[@micksterboone4517]

Those Torque Thrust wheels are timeless. Beautiful Camaro and great content.

[@locacarnivore900]

Um, that's not how a tach works. Sorry. Plus, you pointed to the master cylinder and called it the brake booster. Sorry, again. Do you actually know anything about how cars work? I had to stop watching when you muffed the tach business, since it's clear you don't understand what you're covering. Better enroll in your local community college and take Mechanics 101 before your next video.

[@scottheywood6502]

Do the Z/28s all have 2 humps on the front portion of the cylinder heads. I've always heard that the humps identify the heads as true 302 engine heads that were large 2.02" exhaust valve ports.

[@drumrooster]

Yes

[@BR549_o7]

called "double hump" heads

[@vincedaly3379]

I'm buying a 67 Camaro I want to know what motor transmission was in it and I know it was AV8, but I'm not sure which v 8 How do I tell?

[@bigrob3672]

been trying to get a hold of you.i have a fully optioned 1969 z28 hugger orange camaro with white houndstooth white black checker inlay. fold down back back seat. i have the vin codes if you want to decipher the codes . if you want to make a video to get millions of views , the black ghost a 1970 challenger hemi 4 speed is my neighbor .

[@marnis2]

The rocker “spear” is included in the style trim. It was NOT on every Camaro

[@rastus0301]

Do you have this for the 1968 vintage?

[@anthonysorapuru5245]

Do all 69 z28 have the tachometer console

[@cxa24]

Im too clumsy for a vehicle like this

[@SYLB2016]

20k made? Definitely not a rare car by any means.

[@seanmartin1542]

Is your dog a Maltipoo?

[@DarrellWells-wy9mx]

What ever

[@JALPontiact44]

Hey maybe you can answer a question....best way to convert my vacuum hideaway headlights to mech without looking stock on my Z.

[@bakersfieldre]

also, a paint color change on mine for whatever crazy reason

[@dennyripka-i4g]

Great video! Is it possible to find where my 69Z was bought from vin number?

[@drumrooster]

Nope

[@mikepretko1047]

the spoilers cold have been a ordered option

[@JJj-xratedgt]

Wow...yr the Guru Parker!

[@JALPontiact44]

great video and information Parker