How To: Vertical Pop Shove It/Pressure Hardflip/Illusion Flip

[@mralldayiskate100]

4:17 best trick in the video 😍😍😍

[@Generictingz95]

LMFAO IM DEAD!

[@uuuuu9036]

?????

[@imok1242]

bro you make me laugh so hard 5 years later lmaoooo

[@_morino_iscool971]

@@Generictingz95 fly high

[@michaelpreciado9334]

@@Generictingz95 rest easy 💔🙏🏼

[@rustyant]

Surprised no one's said it yet but it's an illusion flip. The illusion being people used to think it was a hardflip back in the 90's. Go check it out yo!

[@maxonmendel5757]

Gerg Nathank yeah an illusion flip and a muska flip are pretty much the same

[@18ps3anos]

@@maxonmendel5757 I know this is old, but no... A muska flip is a frontside flip but very vertical. It's basically a hardflip with a body varial. Go actually watch muska frontside flip'ing in slow-mo, and you'll see

[@sca___lnp929]

@@18ps3anos I was going to say it but actually it's not really a body varial bc it should be hardflip bs 180 but it's hardflip fs 180 but yeah that's it

[@18ps3anos]

@@sca___lnp929 I don't understand what you mean by "it should be bs". A muska flip has a fs body varial rotation, like the fs flip

[@sca___lnp929]

@@18ps3anos when we say "body varial" it's the oposite rotation of the baord so if you say a muska flip is a hardflip body varial it's incorrect bc that mean it's a hardflip bs 180 so the correct term for muska flip isn't hardflip body varial but hardflip fs 180

[@dannymcleod1391]

Going to learn this trick and trick my friends it a hard flip :)

[@brianaz3587]

same lmao

[@FinallFaith]

Nicely done man you gave very well in depth details

[@VLSkate]

FinallFaith thanks man, i'm glad you liked it :D

[@DiegoJ1023]

Great trick tip! I learned these on my own trying to learn how to hardflip. I never knew what to call it. You explained it perfectly

[@Windpuppy123]

You can actually learn hard flips with this technique. I pop on that odd corner too but always redo these until my front foot makes a light flick. It's sort of like a cheat but cool too because a ton of people can not make this motion happen.

[@MK64Greg]

I always thought these were called illusion flips because without slow motion it's difficult to tell them from hardflip. I used to know a couple of people who'd do them and had even convinced themselves that they were real hardflips.

[@DiegoJ1023]

I was one of those people

[@dceeproductions]

It looks like a hardflip :p

[@VLSkate]

ddcskater it really does!

[@claysoggyfries]

VLSkate It is

[@xamnition]

@@claysoggyfries nope

[@VXBAKER]

@@claysoggyfries if you want to see a real hardflip look up Bryan Herman's hardflip.

[@ricardolazzaro]

For me this is a hardflip, at least some of them. The front foot seems that it doesn't do anything, but when you pop just with the back foot (2:44), it turns the oposite way, like a presure (inward heel). In fact, if you pay attention the front foot helps to turn the "half" flip, not kicking the nose, but the kicking the side of the board.

[@KingBarney]

Love how detailed this is, I think I'll replace my normal shuv its with this, I think I can do this better. xD

[@runspeedguy1268]

after 5 years do u still skate tho

[@jackc-v7d]

@@runspeedguy1268 good question my friend

[@runspeedguy1268]

@@jackc-v7d lol fr tho I really wanna know where that dude is to this day

[@louismcg7601]

Lol I’ve been skating few months, cya in a few months

[@bskates6577]

@@louismcg7601 you any good yet??

[@MrWerirdguy]

Wow, you're really good at exsplaining tricks dude! I'm defenetly going to try this out some time! Thumbs up!

[@VLSkate]

Mr.Webster thanks man! you definitely should, let me know how it goes! :D

[@MrWerirdguy]

Sure!

[@IamSoEasy47]

I’ve been doing these for a while thinking this was just a “steezy” pop shove.

[@prod.lennobeats]

Its cool, your friends say : watch he can do a hardfilp , but it vertical pop shove it

[@alaska1719]

it hurts imagining how many credit cards it takes to learn this

[@sirlol4222]

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[@dacvgdd9523]

Don't hardflips use frontside shuv?

[@theevil999argonianljn3]

Dacv Gdd yeah

[@Ash91719]

Yeah but if it goes vertical it's pretty much a hardflip

[@DCseeker71]

Yes, but it's not a hard flip, it's a pop suv that goes in between your legs, and then at the last moment it does half a kickflip

[@llucweinbrecht5255]

yesss

[@VXBAKER]

@@Ash91719 Nope. The definition of a hardflip is a fs shuv with a kickflip. Look up Bryan Herman's hardflip if you want to see a proper one.

[@ericwilkinson42]

Me and some friends have called them fox flips for years (based on a running joke of our buddy mispronouncing "faux") after we got into a big debate on whether or not they were hardflips. I've never heard anybody else call them that, but I think it's a solid name.

[@maxonmendel5757]

Eric Wilkinson I will have to start calling them that

[@rrnirv]

Aka Hardshuv

[@maxonmendel5757]

John Wank that’s a great name for it actually

[@DCseeker71]

Let's rename it that

[@kobeigtbh6742]

Kai R. Or pressure hardshuv

[@juliusmerino4344]

I have proper hardflips pretty well, and I've done like 2 proper switch hardflips, but I really can't do them too well. So I'll probably try to learn switch vertical pop shuvs, and pass them for switch hardflips👌

[@jadeterry3346]

I've done that with a body varial and everyone thought they were like switch fs flips lol ha ha ha sometimes even a hard flip sex change all it was was a switch shuv it like this with a sex change lol

[@thepancakemann]

Pop them 180 and youre Chad Muska. This is one of the more hotly contested skate arguments, up there with overcrooks and impossible foot wraps.

[@jarsh0216]

I used to do these. I just called them hardflips. My tip to doing these is please be careful and don't commit unless u spot the landing. I landed primo so hard on one of these that I rolled my ankle and broke it.

[@GibblesPvP]

Haha, it's cool that you didn't let the footage go to waste, and you decided to make a tutorial on this!

[@tylerhucks1986]

This is how chad muska hardflips

[@MrAlaska1997]

The way you tuck in your feet is so cool. I can't commit to picking them up whenever I try out a new trick, especially the back foot.

[@aaronkwon3830]

These are what i did when i first thought i was landing hardflips! Then i got roasted and jumped backwards.

[@timothybrignac2149]

I use to do these about 10 years ago always passed it off as a steezy hard flip they look good up euros

[@PanosSG55]

You definitely deserve more views and subs.Keep it up.

[@VLSkate]

PanosSG55 (Dropin Pool) thanks man! i will :D

[@KayKozza]

yo i literally thought you had like 200,000 subs, and i've been watching your videos for a while, and after i read this comment i looked and i saws 5,000 and i literally think my life is a lie right now

[@VLSkate]

Wesley Otero haha! i don't know why but i found that really funny. well, maybe someday, right?

[@KayKozza]

yeah haha keep it up yeooo *thumbs up emoji cause I'm not on my phone* *hundred emoji* *3 bombs* *fire emoji* *hand clap emoji*

[@franz2820]

0:13 lol i thought it was a hardflip

[@VLSkate]

+Franz Errol now i'm a little confused because i guess a few people do hardflips like this haha

[@franz2820]

VLSkate haha

[@camronsatterfield8671]

VLSkate my hardflips look almost exactly like this lmao

[@VXBAKER]

@@camronsatterfield8671 It's not a hardflip then. I've said this time and time again, if you want to see what a real hardflip looks like look up Bryan Herman's.

[@ardigitalmedia8088]

@@VLSkate wouldn't it be more of an inward heel considering hardflips spin the other way ?

[@iLLadelph267]

I know ppl that can't do regular hardflips, only these ones. but I count it in a game

[@willygrags4367]

One of the coolest tricks

[@Frightts]

This looks sick man

[@VLSkate]

Andrewwww thanks man! :D

[@carlkuzminski3141]

i thought this was a hard pressureflip nice how to though very descriptive keep it up :P

[@VLSkate]

+carl kuzminski (YEGskate) i think it is too! i was confused because it's how some people do their regular hardflips but it's weird so i think it's a pressure hardflip

[@Zenguitarring]

I’m not entirely certain, but I don’t think this is a pressure hardflip. Because the hardflip motion is characterized by flipping with the toe (as in a kickflip, or frontside varial flip) then a pressure hardflip should be flipped heel side on the tail with the back foot. When you do it your way, your flipping on the toe side and thus it flips in the motion of a heel flip or inward flip. Definitely a nice video breakdown

[@sleepyaf1596]

2:52 GHOST!!!

[@gerardojimenez-hb8mw]

Its a fuckin car 7n7

[@Tgrogg1]

I'm not sure if I can do this one, but I definitely try it!

[@jackplauche3644]

at 2:10 u touche ur front wheels on the ground 3 times before getting on your board and i always feel like i need to do that all the time lol do u feel like me or just do it?

[@stevefuenzalida8838]

180° Monster Flip

[@iblastyou4819]

can't kickflip but I can "hardflip"

[@theonlynuclearbombyt3347]

Zacary Teague i can fakie varial heel without heelflips! Heelflips are tasmanian devils.

[@bryanalmanza9296]

TheOnly NuclearBomb I can frontside heelflip but can’t do regular heelflips 😂

[@LEsconz]

When you do it it feels like a hardflip. I shouted so loud when I landed one, just to see the footage and see it was an illusion flip 😭😭

[@thomasbuchanan3559]

Help I saw a trick where a guy did a half kickflip right but his foot was in the Casper position and he then did a 180 variable and shuv it while basically always touching the board till the last second when he shuv it’s and lands fakie

[@nickycowboy5020]

A illusion flip is the front side flip inverted

[@howardp.3281]

You really should take that trick over a giraffe. ha ha but for sure im gonna try that trick.

[@VLSkate]

Howard Pittman haha if i come upon a giraffe i promise you i will do it over it! :)

[@thecakeisalie7070]

Great tutorial!

[@JSB-2Z-2K]

damn this looks sick, and I'm sure that perhaps with full commitment it's a trick that i could land one day maybe in 5 years. However, with the luck i have it's unfortunately gonna be a trick I'm definitely not even gonna try let alone learn, like hardflips or tricks over stairs and rails. Just broke my ankle trying a simple kickflip on flat with no speed, it sucks tho but that's how it is for some of us. :( Thanks for the video tho, it's alwats fascinating seeing the physics and how a trick works and the slow mo's and all

[@b-at8183]

Jay 2Z bro I almost broke my ankle 6 times, and there so unstable! It sucks man and the pain never goes away fully

[@be3rryy]

Now I know the real name 😂 I thought pressure flip but its vertical pressure flip

[@Elliottohare2402]

I just realised all my hard flips/fs flips are this or a really fast inward heel motion. Kinda bummed out about it but im determined to learn how to really hard flip

[@DakotaLinback]

This is intense bro

[@othy1970]

Should do more tutorials :) love your videos bro!!

[@juvieotterlifter279]

hey I just want to say thank u Cause u help me a lot at tricks and ur really good keep it up bra

[@LeonardDavisIII]

This is how I do my regular pop shuvits lmao

[@joe4095]

I did the vertical pop shuvit on my pennyboard

[@yqrose]

Gotta try to get this on lock tomorrow

[@KenshinSeta]

Thats how I used to do my first hardflips. Sometimes I could get a real flip in there but sometimes it was just a pop shovit... Same thing also happened with frontside flips when I learned them. Happens if you pop too much and cant get a flip in there.

[@thatoneguywho3434]

How do you get them to flip more?

[@kaba.6425]

I saw this trick on Jonny Giger's channel when it came out and I was just browsing through VLSkate's how to play list to find some tricks to learn and realised that I think I've accidentally done this 😂

[@brucegainz6648]

Luis Mora hardflip... Always thought it was a gnarly looking shuv it

[@ihaveabsoluteltyhavenoclue2850]

How long did it take you to learn do you think it will take a while

[@Twelvegagesage]

youre pretty good dude. is there anything you cant do?

[@takitogr]

I'm so annoyed with vertical pop-shovits. I could do them all my life really high (and vertical varial flips) and at some point I just lost them. It's sooooo annoying that I can't do them anymore

[@thebananasquad7124]

I do these lower and not that steezy but I noticed I actually kinda flick them with my front foot. And i feel them different than shuv its when I land. The only difference is that the board does not spin between my legs but in front of me.

[@Marvinmenthol]

well if you flick it its a hardflip

[@thebananasquad7124]

+Yoda I don't think I can do hardflips, Im not at that level at all haha

[@no_good_name8505]

+The Banana Squad well i mean you might be doing them. I could do my kickflips b4 my ollie

[@Pyra_Kiko]

I call it a verticle pop shuvit as the pressure flip and hardflip look different to this

[@colsl60]

Yeah so good look like a pressure hard :p I will try it but i am still short (15 y old) and i may die

[@VLSkate]

Cols L haha well i hope you don't die, but let me know how it goes!

[@notgshag]

Also the Muska flip

[@danielquaranto5945]

Basically how Chris Cole does hardflips.

[@Back4Fungame]

So vertical pop shove its are basically super clean pop shove its? :D

[@max.myerss]

Man im gunna tell some friends to sub to this channel it helps me more then braiile skateboarding on some tricks

[@terminaldeity]

I was trying to learn hardflips, ended up learning these. Stoked on it, did em nonstop for two days. Took a few days off, and just jumped right into them without warming up. I got credit carded, hard. Super painful. Can't get back into them, now. Maybe I should just learn some proper hardflips?

[@roflmaodude1520]

terminaldeity that's cuz you didn't warm up

[@hamletfisherman5740]

I hate it when people think it's a hardflip 😐

[@mickjames5388]

Thanks for sharing.

[@snickeroonia.817]

I dont because they think i can hardflip but i cant

[@Dudderlyful]

Just ten more years in the other direction and you'll strike gold

[@GrhaesynMcNabbWaitHoldOnWhat]

ive done pop shove its where it went on its side whil rotating!

[@apostleqqp6374]

If i have them unlocked is it more easy vor me then to learn Real hardflips ?

[@jookbj]

Good way to learn hardflip

[@dantheawesome246]

You man are really awesome..

[@xamnition]

This is not a hardflip. Hardflips have a frontside shuvit. This is a backside one. It looks like a hardflip because the board faces the same way and a lot of people have really vertical hardflips due to not mastering the trick well enough. This is basically a illusion/muska flip without the body varial. In a game of skate it is a stylish POP SHUVIT! Remember this guys.

[@xamnition]

Hardflips are hardflips done either horizontally or vertically. In the same way shuvits are still shuvits done either horizontally or vertically.

[@feverXdream]

I used to do these like 20+ years ago when playing skate cause noone else could land them. I called them pressure flips, but a bunch of folks were calling them pressure hardflips. It makes sense, but idk lol

[@Oelies_sb]

Let’s pray in the chat if you are goofy and watch this video

[@christiannygaard9996]

So I still haven’t landed a heel flip or kick flip but I’ve been able to to land this I don’t get it

[@PantherBeatsMusic]

Yo hago el fs shove it y se ve como un hardflip. Help

[@loganst.marseille1061]

To anyone saying this is a hardflip, the board doesn't even do a flip watch the video, its a vertical pop shuvit

[@drewmoskal9878]

I was learning hardflips and this kept forming. I can't complain since it's an actual trick I guess. I've landed it many times but it frustrates me.

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

hehe 😁 i love ya VL, chilly vidz dude 😌👉

[@Evan-me2mb]

If you want to see more of this trick watch old chad muska parts. Hes the og illusion flipper

[@saimon_kat]

God damn I really thought I learned today hardflip untill I watched this video 😭😭😭

[@eethynnwendel]

this is just a hardflip. a pressure hardflip looks really different, and you put your front foot toes hanging completely off the board like a heelflip. You might not feel like your flicking at all with your front foot but by moving your foot out of the way like you do, there's a very subtle flick that guides the board into the hardflip rotation. Super steezed out hardflip, I know a lot of people who do their hardflips like this.

[@horrorstateskatecult.8438]

+Eethynn Wendel its not a hardflip hahah hardflips are frontside, you can clearly see he pops backside

[@stakinclips3438]

+HorrorState Skate Cult. It's vertical hence the title dumbass it's a hardflip

[@error.418]

not a hard flip, no front foot flick

[@hamletfisherman5740]

+Amelia Guzy Noobs always think this is a hardflip because it "looks" like one, but 1) it does not flip, 2) rotates in the opposite direction a hardflip rotates (a hardflip rotates like a frontside shuv, and this rotates like a shuv).

[@shortbusbully]

It's definitely a hardflip. That is how we did them before you were born...noob.

[@Alex_Smit]

Hardflip?

[@VLSkate]

it flips like one but i don't flick at all, it's all back foot

[@Alex_Smit]

So its kinda like a pressure hardflip?

[@VLSkate]

+Alex Smit yeah, i think that's what i would call it nowadays

[@newuserpointofview]

+Alex Smit It's not a Pressure because he does a Ollie, so I pretty sure he did a normal Hardflip here ('vertical pop shovit' is just a strange name... oh my...).

[@VLSkate]

***** the only thing is that i don't flick at all with my front foot so it's more like those pressure hardflips from the 90's everyone was into.

[@meloniusman]

Out of complete coinsidence, I've been trying this for about a week now. I found that having your foot on the bolts, as well as near the edge kickflip side gives me much for leverage for getting higher in the air

[@VLSkate]

aiden baron yeah, i think i've actually changed where i put my foot over the years as i got more comfortable. good luck with them man, if you get it i'd love to see it! :D

[@ronburg6914]

was about to say looks like when someone is learning hardflips

[@-ducky-face-2462]

Can i send you a mail i tried to do hard flips but mine looks more like this?

[@TrulyUnruly88]

Literally how I do my hardflips, only difference is my foot is closer to the bolts and I flick.

[@lilbox6832]

Imma gonna try this but I'm scared to do it

[@alvationrpg2719]

Every single time I try this trick I think I'm doing and I film it but when I try it I just do a really high shuv it

[@meow-mx4xy]

for me it keeps flipping like vertical but with a heelflip instead of kickflip please help

[@chrisfrench1142]

Hey guys, I can't tell if I'm doing an illusion flip or actual hardflip. I tried to compare to your video but I still can't tell. Could you check it out and let me know where to send the video file?

[@TheSpyt67]

Illusion flip spins backside, hardflip spins frontside. If you dont know what that means, hardflip spins away from your toes and illusion flip spins heelside

[@sunlighttehstarlightandzet1714]

The improved version of this is called a backflip.

[@johannhung8579]

hella steezy pop Shuvit**

[@trapstarchuck]

Im so mad when i first started pop shuvs i had this down more then regular pop shuvs and then i started learning tres and now i cant pop it down hard enough i can only scoop it😭

[@icarusshepherd1724]

My board goes behind me every time :( any tips?

[@Fallibleandflawed]

Dope

[@lolan5233]

I just released that i did so much pressure hardflips when i tried to do my pop shuvs heigher

[@jqmes4276]

Here comes pop sickle 🗿

[@stephenstruble5064]

There's so much controversy in skateboarding. To me this is a Pressure Flip. I mean, it's a fun trick. I think it's just the controversy that gives it so much hate. kind of like the whole Impossible or 360 Shove controvery. There's an obvious difference to me, but whatever. There's a few fun variations to Pressure Flips.

[@Zenguitarring]

Stephen Struble you’re right. This is essentially a pressure flip

[@alborare]

does this count as a hardflip in a s.k.a.t.e.?

[@amirtilavi5960]

It really does look like a hardflip

[@juanangulo909]

You should do a goofy cam