How to ward like a Immortal - Warding Spots and Tips Dota 2 Patch 7.33b

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[@devlong993]

1:10 1:32 Laning wards for Dire 2:20 Laning wards for Radiant 2:56 Dire wisdom rune ward 3:20 Radiant wisdom rune ward 4:12 Top river ward after laning stage 5:57 Radiant top jungle ward (note: just ward in watchers) 7:00 Ward for roshan 8:00 8:20 8:39 11:47 11:55 12:04 Dire top jungle ward 9:15 9:50 Wards to go high ground 10:05 10:30 11:15 11:20 11:25 11:30 Radiant bottom jungle ward 11:40 Radiant top ward 12:08 Dire bottom ward

[@brruunno]

Great job

[@yux.561]

saw this on reddit, instantly clicked it. didn't regret any single part of it. great vid! thanks for this.

[@5updota]

No problem 👍

[@adamfink8958]

This is such a good video. I’ve been waiting for a ward video forever from someone, so I’m glad I stumbled across your channel. Thanks for the help!

[@5updota]

No problem sir. And thank you for the Support!

[@Serenity5460]

Dude, that saves me so much experimental time. Thanks for sharing your thouhgts, very clever wards!

[@5updota]

No problem :)

[@novapreem6650]

If you’re radiant and defending bottom lane (night time) there is a spot just near the tower where you can place a ward so you’ll be able to see through the fog of war and initiate properly.

[@ilatanarnie24]

got good spot on the dire large camp. Good in mid to late game. right hand side of the camp can see a lot of area as well

[@gvulture1277]

Great video. Thanks!

[@kitwowo9678]

Hats off for this new warding guide 🤣. Keep it up

[@credmlai2867]

4:26 you can put sentry at the lower cliff to block tree grow back. upper vision get maximized.

[@ibrahimsalman5504]

Great channel bro, keep it up😊

[@5updota]

Thank you 🙏

[@andriivarfolomieiev856]

Defenders gate wards look almost like cheating. Awesome work! Thank you for sharing. I just can add that on dire highground there is a place for a ward between the edge of the map and tower vision range on the top lane (very close to the stairs) that gives crazy amount of vision and a better alternative to a normal ward placed between top and middle towers.

[@5updota]

Agree!

[@MenuDota]

where exactly?

[@Aegiskarmad17]

@@MenuDota 8:21 There !! walk to highground by the forest and place it

[@user-ng4dp3uf3e]

Thanks for the tips bro!

[@5updota]

No problem, thanks for the Support!

[@manuelmarce2544]

My ally Techies showed me the ward spot at 10:34 and that was goddamned genius. Won't get dewarded easily, still offers highground vision, and also shows the lane.

[@5updota]

Agree

[@kjyu]

this ward spot was used in the Liquid vs XG series today too!

[@rev9115]

Miss old techies days when I custom for a hour to search cheesy bomb places every new map comes out😢😢

[@Zaipoggers]

Great job mate, amazing video

[@5updota]

Thank you 👍

[@jase7083]

love it thanks

[@TheDayStarsFell]

super helpful thank you

[@5updota]

No problemo!

[@oscargonzalez3599]

For the Watcher thing: I think we need to see it like a free Ward, so as always, add a sentry, don't only take the watcher, the watcher is already doing the job of the ward (vision) you just need detection and there, you can actually feel safe, also this would counter what 5updota is suggestion (note: not saying that his strategy is bad, just commenting on how to counter if the enemy is doing it)

[@kooroshrostami27]

I think the point is that the enemy can see when you take the watcher. If you don't take it and put a ward, they don't know. This psychology only works as long as it is not expected though. I reckon that soon enough even at the lower level people will adopt this strategy and then putting a sentry on top of the currently relevant watchers will become the dewarding meta and then warding them will be useless. Probably just a matter of time.

[@5updota]

No. Because the sentry game got nerfed a lot. Plus people are dewarding cliffs 100 times more then watchers at any point. Because cliffs usually gives way more vision then watched positions.

[@hulahula6182]

Doesn't watcher reveal invisible units?

[@5updota]

@@hulahula6182 nope

[@xiehanfoo6114]

Great content and guide

[@5updota]

Thank you!

[@user-sk8zb2cw7i]

Ty bro I'm rly ancint 4 you are rly so good and you chang my mind ty for all

[@5updota]

No problem sir

[@floofs1499]

U can also ward outside creep camp on high ground near top dire t2 tower .

[@eukelard]

this video has convinced me i need to start a bot game and just run around with a ward ready to place all over the map.. im a very very new player but still after seeing your thought process and placements theres just so much to consider...

[@soto.diego1]

amazing video mate! can i just ask what happen to the wards you plant on the hills with trees (the ones you have to cut the tree) when the tree reaappears? do they lose almost all the vision or do they stll get the same vision? thx for sharing!

[@5updota]

Not 100% sure but I think if u place a ward plus a sentry, the tree will not comeback for 7 min. (Sentry duration)

[@PandiTheBear]

As a mid player, I try to only keep one word around the five minute mark so I can get the first power rune. Or, sometimes whenever it’s sniper or SF that’s sitting in the fog, high ground that I can use to pull the lane, I may get award a little earlier. If you don’t have vision and can’t pull the way back, you’re going to have a bad time Ed.

[@5updota]

Depends what ur playing. In some matchups its really good to not have a ward on mid so the enemy cant pull the wave because you dont have highground vision.

[@guilhermevidotti560]

Nice video!

[@5updota]

Thank you :)

[@lolkekich]

op wards, thank you

[@MgMast3r]

Heavily underrated vid, tho' what rank do you think this starts being more useful? (the deeper warding at least) Cause I've still been playing around on a new acc in unranked pubs atm as I'm a returning player from 3 yrs ago and ppl barely remember to take bounties atm, lol. Like, until certain ranks at least, I expect folks to be so blind that they don't make use of the vision you set-up for 'em, also making those deep wards where you put yourself at risk putting down, haha.

[@5updota]

Think about wards more like "yeah my team should use them" but if they dont really care about it just abuse them for urself and try to play around it alot if you can :)

[@hoseinbebany]

Ty

[@5updota]

Npp

[@xdesertx]

Great video! Since some of this ward spots require cutting down trees, should you as a pos5 or 4 support buy a Quelling Blade at some point into the game and keep it only for that reason?

[@5updota]

Depends on you. You can go for it but its not a must every game. For example im playing a lot of heroes that can destroy trees so the quelling is kinda ussles :D

[@frostyd0052]

thank bro. i won my first game using ur strat.

[@snoober6690]

maybe it's ok to ward cliffs sometimes like if you don't think the other team expected you to be able to get to an area (maybe you smoked or were able to get to a risky spot early and unexpectedly). since there are less sents available overall you can get away with it sometimes. esp if there are invis heros on your team. i dunno im not a high level player though so maybe that's why in my lower bracket i think this

[@5updota]

You can do whatever u want. But chances are way higher that people check cliffs randomly then other spots on the map.

[@Hemskelol]

Hah, the first one (Lotus Ward) is my new favorite lane ward. Been using it since day 1, people don’t expect it.

[@5updota]

I agree 👍

[@shashvin8504]

This video is underrated fr 💯

[@5updota]

Thx sir!!

[@mandakhbayar.m8298]

Hello, please make a position 4 mirana rank up guide, i am a mirana main and i would love if you make a video about that hero, thank you.

[@GenjaOrigins]

i ward portals when i want secure roshan or know when they take it.

[@Bass_no_Treble]

1:50 is the wrong way to think about it. What you do is warp to the opposite lane and plant the ward there since that scouts both warp usage and outpost teleports.

[@5updota]

That's the point on dire. People usually atleast in high MMR games don't go this way. They go for the left way because it's not like on radiant that you can just walk through the trees that easily.

[@thebogeyman09]

Great video. At this point, the map is so big that I think getting a gem past20 min is the only way to actually deward one side of the map. Then start playing hot potato in team fights with the gem

[@5updota]

True true ^^ or you just play with your courier a lot and sending it back everytime u checked 1 area

[@Voicesinme]

this is a very good video in maow opinion

[@grantderepas6234]

Would you consider picking up a quelling essential now for warding? It seems like so many good ward spots need trees cut

[@5updota]

If you plan on doing these kind of wards in any game u can actually go quelling every game. It's not expensive and it also helps you out push or farm waves.

[@Sheyl3319]

Do you recommend buying quelling blade/tango for support for some of these ward spots 😂?

[@5updota]

Depends usually the 5 gets it. Or you play a hero that can do it with spells :D

[@birk5989]

As you can SEE I can SEE

[@zacheryswearingim7360]

only bad part about this video is that im not the only one seeing it haha:P great video thanks for the guide!!

[@zacheryswearingim7360]

also how long does it take a tree to respawn after being cut/destroyed?????

[@5updota]

3 Mins but if you place a ward on the tree position then the tree doesn't respawn until the ward is out👍

[@zacheryswearingim7360]

@5updota wow thanks for the reply your great!

[@SolMrBadGuy]

Warding behind Radiant tier 1 highground is too good of a ward. on the right side. near the stairs

[@dota2raven]

Im suppor hole my life in dota 2 and you think good like pro Nice video 👏👍

[@anastasyahalperin5851]

Спасибо за информацию :)

[@jonasimbolon5860]

how can I practice hero using that maps?

[@slahserTV]

How do you speed the game up/set the timer to say 40 mins? I want to test tormentors but sucks waiting 20 mins

[@5updota]

Puh I know there is a command for it but IDK :D I went afk before the video and thats how I got the 40 MIN lmaooo

[@kjyu]

host_timescale for faster game clock there is a command to spawn tormentors dota_create_unit npc_dota_miniboss enemy

[@dlegend1123]

learn a number of super ward from this video, thanks!

[@5updota]

No problem sir! Thx for the Support

[@allenwokar1092]

"most people don't know about it" now people knowing about it xD thanks for the tips i didn't know how to trick ward in the new map

[@5updota]

Only the people that watched the video know about it 👀

[@allenwokar1092]

@@5updota indeed 😁

[@ogjoepat]

Wouldn't cutting 3:00 be a giveaway that the bridge is warded?

[@5updota]

Not really people doesnt even realize if the tree is missing :)

[@chowmanxeunn4753]

Would like to ask if you cut a tree thats on cliff, could enemies spot the trees missing?

[@5updota]

Only if they high ground ward the cliff on the left or if they get spells that can scout the high ground.

[@chowmanxeunn4753]

@@5updota Thanks! Always thought it'd show on the map so never tried warding at spots that requires cutting trees!

[@ajmg1993]

GUTEN TAG

[@5updota]

Abend

[@ranamoeni6595]

I am little angry now! Why didn't I think about these ward positions ???? Really helpful video btw

[@5updota]

Stay calm^^ and no problem :)

[@talhahussain1302]

suscribe suscribe suscribe, u got me at 1st ward

[@5updota]

Lmao, thank you sir

[@plopplop.]

A ward for mid is necessary because the waves meet in a low-ground.

[@5updota]

I am not saying that a midward is bad. But in most of the matchups u dont really want a mid ward so the enemy cant pull ur wave. And im sure its not necessary every single game^^

[@Stevo3s1x0]

​@5updota could you elaborate on this a bit please?How does a friendly mid ward let the enemy pull creeps?

[@plopplop.]

@@Stevo3s1x0 your creeps will have vision on the hero and the enemy can then pull aggro.

[@5updota]

Because your creeps can see the enemy and If he aggros on you or your teammates the creeps will follow him. If there is no ward the creeps will not aggro and stay in the low ground. And u can abuse that in some matchups a lot.

[@Gamagamer-mx8rv]

in herald no one even buy sentry XD just put it up and you have it until the time of it end

[@icata12345]

i should really stop warding this cliffs, if we move out of the area in 2mins everything is dewarded.

[@5updota]

It's a habit, but thinking about it to not do it helps a lot.

[@fikmomo9140]

How long for the tree to respawn?

[@5updota]

3 min but u can put a sentry on the lower tree so it doesn't respawn for 7 mins

[@abra.hui.]

No longer active in Dota, so what do you mean by cutting trees? because in the past, those trees will regrow after minute, so today, it will no longer grow back after you put some ward?

[@5updota]

They do regrow after 3 min. But if you put a sentry on the place of the tree then the tree will not grow back until the ward is gone👍

[@marksun4292]

watcher cant see invis? dam didnt know that lol

[@5updota]

Yep

[@lmclrain]

This video is great, I am here cause of your techies video, I found on reddit. I think it would also be cooler if you'd show your face on your videos, that way people will associate it to your content, way to many dota videos, the thumbnail would also help. I hope to see more like this maybe even in context that would be better.

[@5updota]

I actually don't like it showing myself on cam i don't know why :D But I don't wanna stress myself out so I will not be planning on doing that. Plus I'm working on a different type of video style right now so be aware for this Sundays video 🤝

[@yokisullivan8647]

does watcher not give true sight?

[@5updota]

Nope they dont

[@atriumarsitekstudio6469]

not really working in herald lol

[@RetardatorBuzman]

I did not watch the video, I just saw the thumbnail and come on... The ward has eye, put the glasses on it. I'm just so angered rn.

[@5updota]

ROFL

[@dotatvgaming1601]

if everybody ward like a immortal is better to ward like a herald in immortal game :D ...

[@hatersgonahate8330]

Just ur opinion

[@5updota]

Correct

[@guru_lakhima]

> 2:25 PLEASE avoid placing wards on the portal > 7:00

[@5updota]

Looks like you did not understand the video 🤝

[@tenchouhateinentraumhaften3875]

OMG... I hate you bro~ Now it is way harder to deward in my games. Just kidding~ Very nice vid, awesome warding spots.

[@5updota]

Thx sir!

[@XDnomis]

actually broken

[@5updota]

True true

[@IamCrystalwings]

Oh so they weren’t cheating 😂

[@5updota]

Who?

[@IamCrystalwings]

Well in the last few games I was getting caught like a dumbass and I never knew these spots so thank you man🤣