How to WIN MID - Immortal Tips - Mid Guide Dota 2

[@PencilWarrior]

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I'm changing pos... And I can say without question this is the best guide for middle lane I have found on KZbin for Dota... Great job thx a lot

[@radiantprovod4review]

Hey you taught me more than gameleap. I hope you can consistently do more of these with different lanes and matchups or map movements, thank you so much.

[@peachlaugh]

This is one of the best educational video ever! I would love to see an updated offlane and support guides, thanks coach!

[@benbroomhead7083]

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[@felixschmidt5241]

good video which reflects how to play the lane on different heroes!

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[@phatyy-]

One of the best vids. soooo good! more of this

[@phatyy-]

Best mid content. Best coach. Thanks for the uploads

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[@xxxxneoxxxx]

Loved it. I'm gonna practise aggroiing

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[@atillafatihunver617]

hello, many of your viewers would appreciate puck version of this i am sure. especially puck vs sniper is a nightmare sensei

[@pacspacs8693]

Thanks a lot coach for this! Just an advice try to talk a little bit slower because there's a lot of information on your content and it is very hard to absorb all at once.

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[@26minuteyasha]

Mr.Balloon. Do you have videos of examples of what to do after laning on mid ? Big fan btw, you taught me a lot. thx.

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[@ajmg1993]

yo i was watching that video and trained a little bit i was prepered: first game Melee vs Meleee xD that isnt here included but it worked good just using spells to farm and deal also dmg and try to rightclick with voidspirit against earth shaker ^^

[@Joeology432]

it would be really good if you post, smurf matches to showcase how to get it done

[@xerxesmontes9828]

Amazing

[@Jrsmith777]

Try arc warden vs puck nxt

[@Farhad2jam]

nice

[@ZxcGin]

thanks for those good info nand tactic,how about doing trade as a long cd skill hero like QW invoker

[@lashlyangieo1398]

How abt sniper ...he won't be near the spell cast range ..? Should we focus on farm and gank at right time ?

[@BalloonDota]

hey bro, for heroes or players that know how to keep their distance and not allow you to follow up harass after spell casting, it would be necessary to find openings to punish them when they run out of position. For example, pulling aggro to ranged forces them to move up to try and secure the creep, which is where you will proceed to use that opening to move up and trade with them as much as possible. Every opening they give you needs to be taken to punish them while they allow you to. If they do not overstep, then just chill and play the lane as normal without forcing the spell + harass + right click trade as that will not be possible.

[@faxsuntzu]

i win against sniper with the poison, at level 3 poison it makes sniper hp mostly at half

[@lukalastname8199]

​@@faxsuntzuits probably is not a Good idea since not maxing third skill takes away your ability to farm faster and push lanes.

[@faxsuntzu]

​@@lukalastname8199 on Dota 1, my qop build is lvl 2 shadow strike, 1 blink, and max scream early. this time i max shadow, 1 blink, and then max scream later. i build right click for qop as scream based builds eats up a lot of mana. rush orchid then the poison (int) blade. im currently 25-5 this build but looking to improve it. I've seen dagon builds using the +magic damage facet

[@quediezmo680]

I noticed that the one you are hitting twice in the incoming waves is the one being targeted by your range creep. Was that on purpose or a coincedence?

[@conversetea68pennington60]

what would the focus be on a hero like brood who doesnt really have a ranged spell for harrass and is mainly right click focused?

[@BalloonDota]

hey bro, for heroes like these, you would do the same initial steps like aggro, setting creeps etc, only difference is you would punish the enemy hero more heavily whenever they come in for a deny/last hit (using spell to punish/last hit then punish)

[@conversetea68pennington60]

@@BalloonDota Thanks bro mid matchups been going alot better recently do you plan to make any position 1 guides/coaching would love to see some more range

[@BalloonDota]

@@conversetea68pennington60 hey bro I have a few pos 1 videos on my channel, check them out. Will be releasing more videos in time 🙏🏻

[@darthbinks5987]

I'm jealous of people who have ping below 100. Unfortunately on my country server I have 140-170 ping with packet loss, because our servers are located further west. I have decent ping on Japan server (39-47), but the problem is that communication there is harder, not all the people know English, and the server's population is smaller by significant amount. If i were to search a match during at the weekend on our country server it would take 1-3 minutes max. On Japan server it would take around 20 minutes to find a match as an offlaner.😢

[@SummontheDoggy]

What is the ideal move after i Destryo his tier1 tower? Farm? Gank?

[@BalloonDota]

@@SummontheDoggy invade their jungle with wards and rotate off high kill opportunities only, else keep lane pushed in and control the entire mid area

[@baljitalatunjitt7527]

Bro how do dominate mid with invoker quas wex?

[@FleurZ9]

New Dota player here, how do you play mid with melee heroes? Seems much harder to harass/farm

[@BalloonDota]

@@FleurZ9 melee heroes need to utilize creep aggro much more to bait ranged heroes out of position and stay on top of the enemy heroes to punish them when they attempt to take a creep, putting themselves out of position

[@FleurZ9]

@ I see, I’m coming from league and the mechanics are really different haha. Thanks!

[@alifhafizbinjasni5644]

How to vs huskar as qop midlane? Everytime i try to agro creep he come at me 🤣

[@raawr6348]

How can I win against lone druid user ? Especially against smurf😌

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[@BalloonDota]

hi bro, some of my students asked their acquaintances to pay on their behalf, so maybe you can consider that option as well ya thank you!

[@vinhbui8343]

good content but one comment. You paused too much that make the video unnecessary long and tired to watch. Maybe try only pause for the points that can't be visualized without drawing.

[@warzoneepicactions6907]

What about melee midlaners?

[@BalloonDota]

@@warzoneepicactions6907 the idea is the same, in the sense that you will need to set creeps, spell to last hit + harass + followup right clicks. The major difference would be knowing whether to aggro backwards to ranged or not by understanding the matchup. If weaker, pull aggro and avoid enemy trading. If stronger, avoid backwards aggro and trade with more forwards aggro.

[@warzoneepicactions6907]

​@@BalloonDota thanks

[@ZakkeV]

2:30 I don't understand why you wanna secure creeps with spells like this. dont you only wanna use spells if you need to? necro walked into your for funsies so you get to hit the spell on him, but if he doesnt aren't you just forcing yourself to spend mana on securing creeps? at 4:00 it makes sense because you want both heroes to lose hp so he cant lane, but before that I dont get it. at 4:50 it makes sense to me because you dont wanna let them deny. 5:50 is same as 2:30, why do you wanna spend mana if you can defensively aggro, clearly there is some fundamental idea im missing.

[@BalloonDota]

hey bro, thanks for the questions for 2:30, the situation was just to set up a favorable trade in cases where the enemy hero did walk in, it would provide a favorable trade for storm to spell to secure creep + harass hero + follow up with right clicks (Securing last hit + trading right clicks on hero for more favorable trading advantage). if he was standing away and wasn't coming in, then it wouldn't make sense to spend mana to secure that melee creep. At that point its more about last hitting to secure the melee (dropping wave size down), then trading Necro/setting the enemy ranged into the next spell usage to secure ranged + harass enemy hero. for 5:50, again its related to favorable trading. if i can exchange 2-3 right clicks to last hit creeps VS 3 right clicks on enemy hero + spell to secure creep + spell to harass enemy hero + zone + stronger positioning, it would only make sense to build that advantage as early as possible while hero advantage is still equivalent/slightly skewed towards one side. hope that makes sense.

[@ZakkeV]

@@BalloonDota How I understand it, is that you want to use spells asap, but you are trying to get more value, and you create 'value' by making csing easier

[@BalloonDota]

@@ZakkeV cs easier, drop wave size to decrease creep aggro damage received, do more damage with spell, hasten trading aggressively with addition of right clicks on enemy hero

[@ZakkeV]

@@BalloonDota okay, thank you very much. I'm not a mid player at all so I consistently lose mid to players with thousands of mmr below me when I play custom matches, this is very helpful.

[@BalloonDota]

@@ZakkeV no worries bro, anything feel free to ask away

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I haven't played Dota for years but I used to play mid a ton and I've spent countless hours analyzing replays and watching mid guides and this is by far the best guide I've ever seen. . By a long shot! A lot of other people including coaches I've used wood attempt to explain it in this manner but they didn't do it as detailed and as succinctly as you did nor did they provide all the drawings which are super helpful! These kids don't know what they're getting out of this vid. Well done sir! Looking forward to browsing your channel for sure. Watching this times two for the algorithm and because it's so information