How to win on turn two.

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LegenVD

LegenVD

Күн бұрын

Magic: The Gathering Arena deck tech & gameplay with a red green land destruction deck, featuring Stone Rain, Blood Moon and Minsc & Boo in Timeless.
Patreon: / legenvd
00:00 - Deck Tech
04:12 - Match 1
05:10 - Match 2
11:16 - Match 3
16:14 - Match 4
23:42 - Match 5
29:28 - Match 6
32:04 - Match 7
34:00 - Match 8
36:43 - Match 9
38:37 - Match 10
Decklist:
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"Movement Proposition" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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@RenounceDarkness_
@RenounceDarkness_ 5 ай бұрын
LVD has two sides: The “I’m not playing any counterspell in my blue deck” , and the “ I’m playing turn 2 blood moon”
@v3rtigo_
@v3rtigo_ 5 ай бұрын
We can hear you smiling while you’re describing the deck LVD, pure evil
@Iamthe2G
@Iamthe2G 5 ай бұрын
Thank goodness this is only allowed in the new format. That's exactly how all such games should operate: if you want complete and utter madness, just create a format where everything is allowed and see how many people actually want to play in such formats facing some strategies (like this one) so fast and OP that no matter how cool and fun your strategy is, if it doesn't add specific cards to counter other specific cards in the format, whatever you planned will work once every Blood Moon :) Me personally I'd never try such a format since I prefer being able to come up with interesting, well-thought (or just thought, actually) strategies that are meant for the longer game and the more than honorable "you vs me" type of brawls, and not the "I'll bully you by not even allowing you to resolve your spells (monoblue)/attack me with creatures (monored)/have (enough? Any at all?) cards in hand (any black colored deck centered around discard effects)" we unfortunately still see even in Standard...
@santiproductions9318
@santiproductions9318 5 ай бұрын
@@Iamthe2Ghave you considered pokémon?
@HarverTheSlayer
@HarverTheSlayer 5 ай бұрын
@@Iamthe2G See, the second part of that comment is the kind of mindset I totally disagree with. Many of these "unfair decks" are just as well-thought strategies (if not more) than your average midrange beatdown deck, and require knowing your match-ups like the palm of your hand. And I'm saying this as someone who enjoys the most playing with creatures and running janky combos. Sure, it's not fun when an opponent locks you from playing. but without those strategies, the game would end up with a rather boring "who's got the biggest stick" style of gameplay dominated by green decks.
@Iamthe2G
@Iamthe2G 5 ай бұрын
@@santiproductions9318 I don't know if you meant it like switching over to Pokémon (which I already play since gen 3, and competitively as of a couple years back) or just if I have seen how this formula is working in other such big games, but either way, Pokémon also had broken mons and moves all the way back in gen 1 like Hyper Beam (150 base power) not taking a turn to recharge after using it if it KOd the foe, which was exactly the reason why it was changed already in the next gen (2), or even the Special stat which was only a single stat and made things like Tauros or Articuno actually strong using special attacks and in the span of just one generation went from top tier to UU (under used) at most but mostly NU (never used) or lower once that stat was split in Special Attack and Special Defense. In the case of Pokémon, it was not originally intended to be a battle-centered game, so it is kind of reasonable to understand why these moves and stats were so broken in the beginning, but Game Freak still adjusted them to the battle scene in the following generations and tried to balance things out as the generations went on. Magic, on the other hand, was always intended to be a "battle" or match-based game in which there's always a minimum of two players, and the first cards ever printed were already broken to the point some of them are still banned today even from formats like Vintage and other formats where older cards are allowed. I never played Magic in those early days, but quite frankly, the Alchemy format just seems to be the same, if not worse, crazy metagame where there are impossible cascade effects, where tutoring cards was never easier with draft mechanic (Key to the Archive for instance), where puting extra cards in your deck out of thin air is possible and powerful ones at that (Oracle of the Alpha for instance), etc. My point here is, what's the fun in spending hundreds and thousands of dollars to buy cards and packs to come up with a strategy that requires a reasonable and respectable amount of turns and resources to set up, if there are cards that when combined together can make your opponent lose on turn 3? What's the point in wasting your time thinking of nice and cool strategies that require time only to lose to a guy on turn 4 max whose whole thing revolves around a bunch of 1-2 mana creatures with haste and absolutely unnecessary abilities like prowess or DOUBLE prowess alongside cheap burn spells and cantrips? So now I'm forced to use things like Temporary Lockdown, Brotherhood's End, Depopulate or just a full set of cheap removal spells to deal with all those more-than-acceptable fast aggro decks instead of other interesting cards with cool sinergies? I'm sorry, but that to me is restrictive and very easily preventable in various ways.
@Holywildflowers
@Holywildflowers 5 ай бұрын
For real 😂
@davestier6247
@davestier6247 5 ай бұрын
LVD venturing into the sodium cultivation and harvesting industry provides a lot of value
@ichcool91
@ichcool91 5 ай бұрын
Maybe there is a collab with the mayor of sodium city in the stars :hopium:
@haveiszalfaroqie1628
@haveiszalfaroqie1628 5 ай бұрын
The salt mine lies deep in the mountain.
@davestier6247
@davestier6247 5 ай бұрын
@@haveiszalfaroqie1628 the Basic Mountain.
@markbuckler4793
@markbuckler4793 5 ай бұрын
LVD digging through his opponent's deck in match 3 after the opponent disconnected felt like he was looting the body 😄
@strangelaw6384
@strangelaw6384 5 ай бұрын
That game 1 was such an epic, long, grindy battle! Glad our LVD eventually nicked a win!
@parkerdixon-word6295
@parkerdixon-word6295 5 ай бұрын
I just realized that half of why Blood Moon is so back-breaking is that there really isn't an answer for it that you can play off of only red mana. Since Red can't kill a blood moon, that actually makes it so the card protects itself by even bricking any potential *answers* to itself. Card is wild.
@llamarama6976
@llamarama6976 5 ай бұрын
Oh yeah. Thing is in legacy where "moon stompy" is mostly played (that shit has trinispheres and ancient tombs and other lock pieces before hitting hard with something like rabble master) its balemced by the fact things like force of vigor or will can be pitched from hand without needing mana. Hell even just chrome moxes or petals can help. But timeless doesnt have most of that yet meaning insane enchanments like moon or even necropotence of all unholy things have very little outs.
@Toughmanpaws
@Toughmanpaws 5 ай бұрын
It's the card I hate with every fiber of my being in modern ...always gets me so tilted 😂
@DestroyerOfDoom
@DestroyerOfDoom 5 ай бұрын
Blood moon is the great equaliser. You got basics? Good to go. Greedy mana bases? Die
@llamarama6976
@llamarama6976 5 ай бұрын
@@DestroyerOfDoom as a wise man named ThrabenU said about the channel lands "nonbasics have a price"
@matthewgagnon9426
@matthewgagnon9426 5 ай бұрын
There needs to be more Blood Moon-like cards that are hard to deal with. Expensive landbases deserve to have some counterplay.
@logan_wolf
@logan_wolf 5 ай бұрын
This was a lot of fun to watch; land destruction is my favorite Magic archetype, even if it didn't get used a whole lot, here.
@Legov7
@Legov7 5 ай бұрын
Match seven really delivers on that turn two win.
@Holywildflowers
@Holywildflowers 5 ай бұрын
This deserves more views
@r3games1985
@r3games1985 5 ай бұрын
Stone Rain and Stone Brain. Stone cold.
@manbagan
@manbagan 5 ай бұрын
Do you think you will do draft guides again? Those were really cool.
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 5 ай бұрын
Haven't decided yet. It feels like an arms race to be the first to post a draft guide, but I don't want the quality to suffer because of it. Even working one or two extra days on them can halve the number of views they might get.
@Cerealkiller050
@Cerealkiller050 5 ай бұрын
I'll just say this, I don't care how long I have to wait, your draft guides are amazing. I know you are a bit beholden to views and business pressures, but just know that those video are absolutely quality gold
@r12365
@r12365 5 ай бұрын
Adding my own two cents onto this, I think they would still be something special coming from you but I also particularly miss your limited content in general. @@LegenVD
@haveiszalfaroqie1628
@haveiszalfaroqie1628 5 ай бұрын
Ye. Even without the guide part, I still enjoy the actual drafting section where you pick a card and explain your reasoning, as well as weighing other cards and future-proofing your picks.
@RadCommieGamer
@RadCommieGamer 5 ай бұрын
This deck is pure evil. I like it!
@JotaBankai
@JotaBankai 5 ай бұрын
Excellent content as always, which deck do you think is currently the most consistent one for BO1?
@demiurge2501
@demiurge2501 5 ай бұрын
My personal opinion is domain zoo, but rakdos breach is also incredibly good
@flamefist_ace3293
@flamefist_ace3293 5 ай бұрын
First of all, I like to say thank you. For all your content and amazing Deck-Ideas you come up with. I don't like basic creature decks and am more like playing decks with unusual wincons, like this one. I work on a no-attack/ pacifist-style brawl deck where your enemy/enemies can't attack you and you slowly drain them to death. Maybe an idea for one of your future builds?
@teusz16
@teusz16 5 ай бұрын
33:05 a truly unthinkable glimpse, damn
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 5 ай бұрын
I saw an AI generated card. It was an enchantment for 2W that said "Whenever an opponent casts a spell, counter it." If you think about it, that card is a worse Blood Moon
@jamessammons4513
@jamessammons4513 5 ай бұрын
Oh this must have created a great deal of rage in your opponents
@ArbiterChrono
@ArbiterChrono 5 ай бұрын
This is just like my Modern Ponza deck but with deathrites to play around bowmaster. Heck ya
@a7wingedsheep
@a7wingedsheep 5 ай бұрын
Whee! LegenVD playing Land D!
@seantao4714
@seantao4714 5 ай бұрын
Funny deck
@littlegeek5159
@littlegeek5159 5 ай бұрын
37:42 don't stone brain prime time, stone brain boseiju while you're at it, see if they have both snow-covered and regular forest in their deck; if they don't, you can follow up with the stone brain on that!
@lukesdewhurst
@lukesdewhurst 5 ай бұрын
Would you consider a 1 of chromatic lantern to counter your own blood moon? Or is blood moon usually just an auto concede from your opponent?
@edde2429
@edde2429 5 ай бұрын
Haven't watched the whole video yet, did he ever get stuck under his own blood moon?
@thedeathofaman
@thedeathofaman 5 ай бұрын
Am I going to watching this new LVD video? Sign me up!
@butdoesitscrub3457
@butdoesitscrub3457 5 ай бұрын
Man misc and boo are so crazy when it's a 4 cost
@ThatOneSomethingg
@ThatOneSomethingg 5 ай бұрын
Minsc in the blood moon is not something ive ever seen before lol!
@moxpontifex
@moxpontifex 4 ай бұрын
I'm debating Klothys for recurring yard hate as well as Jegantha.
@mmmhhhwaffles4785
@mmmhhhwaffles4785 5 ай бұрын
of all the evil strategies... this be the most evil. Good playing LVD!
@dg_yorick6814
@dg_yorick6814 5 ай бұрын
Love you and your content, but if you pull this deck out in front of me irl, I am absolutely throwing hands lmao
@rockyblue92
@rockyblue92 5 ай бұрын
18:33 How did the Stomping Ground ETB untapped w/o spending 2 life?
@TheeOakTree
@TheeOakTree 5 ай бұрын
🌚
@rockyblue92
@rockyblue92 5 ай бұрын
@@TheeOakTree Ohh... duh...
@dougnapier6441
@dougnapier6441 5 ай бұрын
Karn's voice lines just make him feel like a bully.
@johndoe9343
@johndoe9343 5 ай бұрын
How do you feel about this format compared to other formats, whether they are constructed or limited?
@geoffn2540
@geoffn2540 5 ай бұрын
I laughed so hard at this video my wife asked if I was okay from the other room. Well done!
@klaffimax
@klaffimax 5 ай бұрын
Hello, i played against you and your deck yesterday. I am thedarkknight and played with Jund Jegantha. Do you hafe the video for me please 🙏
@Ziegrif
@Ziegrif 5 ай бұрын
GO FOR THE EYES BOO! GO FOR THE EYES! RHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAST!!!!
@pawegrzegorzdoegowski583
@pawegrzegorzdoegowski583 5 ай бұрын
Why Tormod's Crypt over Grafdigger's Cage? Or both?
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 5 ай бұрын
Sometimes you don't have any spare mana so Crypt is the only option. Could run both if we cut something else, but that's always a tradeoff.
@thebackstab8730
@thebackstab8730 5 ай бұрын
22:45 cant you just shoose one blocker and bolt your creature then the lifelink/damage fizzels?
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 5 ай бұрын
Would only work if they didn't also have Trample.
@thebackstab8730
@thebackstab8730 5 ай бұрын
@@LegenVDoh ok I thought everything fizzles
@aeolus7762
@aeolus7762 5 ай бұрын
LVD was secretly a Ponza player in Modern. This just proves as such.
@IHazMagics
@IHazMagics 5 ай бұрын
Theres much better options than this, but I'll always be sad that haphazard bombardment doesn't get a spot in land destruction decks anymore. It's always so fun when you've got 2+ on the board just randomly destroying things
@davestier6247
@davestier6247 5 ай бұрын
Yeah. Fun card but 6 mana is a lot in an extremely fast format like this.
@TheDerpyDeed
@TheDerpyDeed 5 ай бұрын
...green... and land destruction and no beast within? - I suppose a 3/3 is problematic, but beast within is more land destruction (and can stop early game combo pieces) and cheaper than stone rain (yeah you could've beast-within-ed colossus hammer too... right?)
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 5 ай бұрын
That card isn't on Arena.
@teacher.eduardorios
@teacher.eduardorios 5 ай бұрын
Is acidic slime just too expensive for the deck/format? Copying it with fable seems so tempting...
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 5 ай бұрын
Yeah a little too slow.
@seansmith8396
@seansmith8396 5 ай бұрын
I was wondering if match 4 would have worked out better had you plus for mana rather than exile. You would have drawn the Karn and then would have been able to got the coating to start destroying lands again. With Chandra’s mana ability you would have been able to play Karn and kept mana up for your bolts to kill creatures like you did when your OP found white mana.
@honestabe411
@honestabe411 5 ай бұрын
The problem was a BS alchemy perpetual effect. It feels bad when you mill a good card, but when you break it down logically it doesn’t matter what that card is
@Threadoflength
@Threadoflength 5 ай бұрын
Oh he would have 100% won if he'd been able to cast the karn, but that's the balancing act of chandra, you don't know what you're going to exile. Sometimes it's just a mountain. I do think that he needed to commit to the beat down though. You either go hard on the damage and cast nothing off the chandra unless it deals more damage (like a minsc and boo) or you say "ok i'm the control deck, lets get the most cards as possible while we uptick". He kinda did both and lost the game for it.
@seansmith8396
@seansmith8396 5 ай бұрын
@@Threadoflengthyeah, I totally get sticking to a single plan, but I have usually used the approach of up ticking for mana with Chandra after playing her for this exact reason. I never want you to exile something I could potentially play just because I am tapped out. Especially in a deck with a low curve, but maybe my line of thought is in correct. Definitely not an expert in this game, but just my two cents….lol
@r12365
@r12365 5 ай бұрын
Did I accidentally click on the latest MonoBlackMagic video?
@electric_dream_machine
@electric_dream_machine 5 ай бұрын
I love how there is an agreement among magic players that land destruction is evil, even though it's not even close to being as oppressive as half the things people find "fun" in the game.
@nurikhsan8821
@nurikhsan8821 5 ай бұрын
Land destruction, along with stax, lockdown, and counterspell-based controls, are hated by player because they're simply "not letting you to play Magic the Gathering" An oppressive midrange deck is far better the above decks. Because at least you can still play your cards. Rather than outright denied to play any cards.
@mublysnubly3407
@mublysnubly3407 5 ай бұрын
@@nurikhsan8821 the illusion of choice. It's like in blackjack, people get much saltier when their 20 gets cracked, even though they were never gonna win that hand.
@keycuz
@keycuz 5 ай бұрын
It is getting very convoluted from the game I played 20 years ago. Every card is a page of text, even the lands. Average decks just lose turn 3, but I can't say it's not fun to occasionally play access denied decks when I'm feeling a bit cruel.
@moalboris239
@moalboris239 5 ай бұрын
@@nurikhsan8821I always say it is more that a lot of players don't really know how to play against decks like that. If they completely lock you out of he game it is effectively the equivalent of them making an impossible to win against board state so it isn't really hugely different than if you could play your cards because you still lose.
@nurikhsan8821
@nurikhsan8821 5 ай бұрын
@@moalboris239 there's a difference between a deck that kills you fast in 2-3 turns, and deck that lock you and win after 20+ turns. Just outright losing in 2-3 turns is more preferrable for people rather than keep fighting a grindy match without a chance to play anythings, then lose after 20+ turns. That's why a lot of people choose to concede fast against people with lockdown, control and whatever. Because if you really want to play by yourself, just do it in bed or toilet, not card game.
@goobyplease
@goobyplease 5 ай бұрын
im confused. isnt ragavan banned in historic? how is ur opponent playing one on match 2
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 5 ай бұрын
This is Timeless, not Historic.
@riccardopiombo222
@riccardopiombo222 5 ай бұрын
Why coating lands at opponent's upkeep?
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 5 ай бұрын
So they can't use the mana in their main phase.
@riccardopiombo222
@riccardopiombo222 5 ай бұрын
Due to kgc! I missed that interaction thank you!
@skipper7152
@skipper7152 5 ай бұрын
THUD!
@wirelessbaguette8997
@wirelessbaguette8997 5 ай бұрын
they call it stax because you pile up stax of wins when you play it!
@CyberBuster93
@CyberBuster93 5 ай бұрын
Okay THIS deck is amazingly disgusting lmao! I can literally hear just how big you're grinning when you're talking about this deck hahaha I should have always known you were EVIL 😂😝 Appreciate all you do Luca!!! 😊
@BusinessCat88
@BusinessCat88 5 ай бұрын
I usually hate wonton land destruction, but specifically penalizing rare/nonbasics gives me sadistic glee
@davestier6247
@davestier6247 5 ай бұрын
Wontons are delicious tho
@Jeffko78
@Jeffko78 5 ай бұрын
@@davestier6247 I prefer wanton wonton consumption
@davestier6247
@davestier6247 5 ай бұрын
@@Jeffko78 me too
@spencerbell8386
@spencerbell8386 5 ай бұрын
For those asking for Blood Moon in Standard: case in point lol.
@silviobaiguini69420
@silviobaiguini69420 5 ай бұрын
Technically, this deck runs 14 basic mountains 😁
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven 5 ай бұрын
I mean yeah, that sure does
@CyberBuster93
@CyberBuster93 5 ай бұрын
MOON MINSC MOON MINSC MOON MINSC LMAOOOOOO 😂
@ericbarr734
@ericbarr734 5 ай бұрын
More like: Lands Very Dead, LVD
@logangrzesiek8749
@logangrzesiek8749 5 ай бұрын
I know im 33 going on 65 when I say this, but...alchemy cards just ain't magic, man. "It perpetually gains equip 1" Mmk.
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx 5 ай бұрын
Alchemy cards being allowed is the primary reason I'll never touch the format.
@MrSandalz
@MrSandalz 5 ай бұрын
hmm yes, this shall boost salt production by 420%.... excellent
@stefanoriva1738
@stefanoriva1738 5 ай бұрын
wow, this format is awful as I expected
@markburnash8678
@markburnash8678 5 ай бұрын
what? it's decision intensive and powerful. I think it's a great addition.
@llamarama6976
@llamarama6976 5 ай бұрын
My main issue with timeless is that is has powerhouse cards but have yet to print actual good ways to stop them. Legacy or vintage has cards like force of will to stop your opponent from getying away with overly heinous shit. But this format straight allows you to play a full set of necropotences and there is not that many ways of actually removing it. "Moon stompy" is strong in legacy but there are far more outs to it than timeless has
@stefanoriva1738
@stefanoriva1738 5 ай бұрын
@@markburnash8678 decision intensive? Look at match 7 at 32:00. Oppo won at TURN 2!! LVD had only played 1 turn: land and halfling. Wow such fun...
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx 5 ай бұрын
@@stefanoriva1738 He feels special for winning by making the "intense decision" to run cards with no effective counter that win the game on turn 2.
@nobelphoenix
@nobelphoenix 5 ай бұрын
What killed us in the 4th game was the chandra exile with no open mana, no matter how long I've been playing this game I've always hated to exile or mill my own cards, I know I should treat them as a resource but as a control player I had many games where it came down to a last couple of cards in the library. Chandra could've easily upticked with mana production and especially we had two bolts against their two creatures at that moment. So I count that 4th game as a win =)
@MineRoyale.
@MineRoyale. 5 ай бұрын
That is just not the case
@dylanm.4875
@dylanm.4875 5 ай бұрын
Timeless is a fucking joke, bloodmoon in a bo1 format is about as cringe as it gets, nothing against LVD of course, this is much more a comment about arena in general.
@llamarama6976
@llamarama6976 5 ай бұрын
I think the main problem is that timeless has cards in it like moon and necropotence (you can run 4??? Why???). But none of the interaction that formats like legacy or vintage like force of will or force of vigor to counterbalance it. And as you mentioned it not being a b03 format means even if vigor was in the format it would be a clunky card to play
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