How to Write a Fallen Hero: Viktor

[@tyronsredux]

One thing I really like about Viktor is that his ambitions never make him feel like a villain. I kinda compare him to Madara from Naruto without the mania that makes Madara Madara. He has a desire to help people like him and is even willing to destroy the hexcore because he wants to help people the proper way. The hexcore corrupting him doesn't really change his goals, deep down he's still the same person but the way to achieve his goal is what becomes different. Helping people through assimilation, becoming one and all having one sense of self rather then people each having individuality, on a techincal level we can see that a goal like this can bare fruit with the community that Viktor ends up building, everyone is happy and at peace despite their loss of self, but morally what Viktor is doing is wrong even if it comes from a good place of wanting to help everyone by making everything perfect so there are no problems in the world. Because of that, Viktor ends up losing a core part of his actual goal and loses himself in pursuit of achieving his goals.

[@TapaniLastellar]

That is well said, even though Viktor loses traces of himself and a core part of his goal he still had aspects of that a villain like Madara wouldn't have. That said, good thing Viktor got stopped early or it could've reached a Madara scale situation. I can't tell how long it would take either. The efficiency of hextech 😬

[@asgo7320]

Viktor, Silco and Jinx are some of the best anti-villains in animation.

[@TapaniLastellar]

arcane gave us a triple ❤‍🔥

[@lockekappa500]

I like how season 2 does a lot of this. A perversion of the protagonists initial "good traits" Cait goes from a caring soul who is the first person to jump at a wounded Zaunite to a cold, careless person who sees them only as animals. Vi goes from being willing to do anything for her family, to giving up on them and joining a cause that is against her roots. Mel turns away from her fox ways and becomes a wolf. This also does happen in the opposite direction. Sevika goes from wanting to force Vander to turn in his children to stating "we don't turn in our own people." Jinx finds friendship in a little child. I could go on but I think you get the idea.

[@TapaniLastellar]

I like the way you explained Mel, I remember there was a video about it back when season 1 aired. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2bShHV9hZier80 I wish he'd update his thoughts on Mel now that season 2 ended

[@lockekappa500]

@@TapaniLastellar Ahh a fellow Aleczandxr enjoyer. Currently watching his reactions to S2 also.

[@Shin_Kyo]

Your writing is soo sick, great analysis man

[@TapaniLastellar]

Thanks man, looking forward to your next work too

[@nitzan3782]

Heimerdinger didn't push Viktor into villainy, he failed to pull him away. And that failure motivated him to leave the ivory tower he's constructed and see how Zaunites manage to survive. He's more akin to Obi-Wan's role in the creation of Vader. Singed is definitely the Palpatine in his story, though.

[@TapaniLastellar]

nice to see a Star Wars comparison, especially how damaged the series has gotten recently 🤓

[@DuckyMo]

Viktor had to lock in tho

[@TapaniLastellar]

not too shabby of a life after locking in for so long

[@ItzzKish]

GOAT

[@TapaniLastellar]

[@ravendelacour1917]

My head canon is that Viktor was transported at end of the series to Night City where he retired and started using his last name Vektor.

[@TapaniLastellar]

Cyberpunk Night City?🧠

[@ravendelacour1917]

@@TapaniLastellar It explains why Viktor Vector is the best Ripper Doc in the City. He's the retired Machine Herald. :)

[@TapaniLastellar]

@@ravendelacour1917 now i see the ways of Vektor

[@UmamiNoodle]

I think you did a great job of explaining and analyzing Viktor’s fall. Curious- do you think Skye, as a hallucination, was the hexcore manipulating Viktor (via his guilt?) or was she real? Both scientists making a new future together? So many unanswered questions. Look forward to more you put out!

[@lockekappa500]

I go back and forth, but I think her line "No you won't" makes me think it was actually in a way Skye talking to him. Or at least a positive projection of her and her ideals. Which kept him from giving into the power struggle that was happening with the hexcore. So no, I dont think the hexcore was manipulating Viktor via Skye, since I think she was an anchor for him to stay true to himself and what they wanted for their people. It is possible she is still a hallucination, but I think she was a positive one.

[@TapaniLastellar]

Thank you~! I'm not sure. I'd like to say it's the hexcore's responsibility because of all the astral hexcore realm stuff (dunno if there's an official name). Even if it was a manipulation, Skye was still a positive anchor. It could have gotten much worse if Skye wasn't there So many unanswered questions indeed, season 2 had so much more to digest...

[@lockekappa500]

@@TapaniLastellar Yeah she is definitely a positive anchor, so I'm leaning towards a hallucination that is meant to showcase the last of his humanity. As we see her leave when the final transformation culminates.

[@lumisobolewska]

Even after watching videos about Viktor being wrong or Viktor's community being cult like, most comments have people forgiving him

[@TapaniLastellar]

Because hexcore corruption doesn't change his goal of helping people 🤝 of course understandable about how drastic it got though

[@lockekappa500]

@@TapaniLastellar I know it doesnt change his motivations, but isnt it just as corrupting and controlling as shimmer. Considering they lose basically all of their sentience and free will?

[@TapaniLastellar]

@@lockekappa500 Hard to say. There's much more research and evidence on shimmer use, Viktor's techniques didn't get as much run time for us to digest.

[@izday3668]

i think his lethal facecard helps

[@my2randomcents]

This is a fanfic right? Cuz a lot of this did not happen