My song writing class in college was a joke. There are so many tools and methods and tricks to songwriting that you guys are sharing that I never heard of. Really appreciate you sharing the knowledge and without all the shameless plugs for paid content. You guys are so genuine, it is refreshing. Fair play!
@ezrakelly941 Жыл бұрын
Your comment is giving hope to us who haven't gone to college to study music but are here and learning from this channel.
@lauraevansmusic Жыл бұрын
AGREED!!!
@A-Milly-A7 ай бұрын
No one likes having paid content plugged to us, but we also have to remember that creating digital content like this also isn't free or even cheap necessarily; creators have every right to try to push people toward paid resources, and shouldn't be expected to provide free labour and get nothing in return. This comment isn't aimed at you specifically, it's an issue across the board of digital content creation: many people in general don't understand or appreciate how much time and effort goes into producing even short pieces of content. A few plugs for paid content or Watching some ads is the least we can do in return for getting great resources or entertainment for free.
@ImpliedMusic Жыл бұрын
i can't imagine a musician at any level that wouldn't benefit from your videos. clear and supportive for beginners, a pro level check list for more experienced songwriters.
@iluvsyphonfilter Жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm a subscriber of your channel!
@bobmaulucciproject Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of limiting oneself in order to keep creativity going. It works for me all the time when alone with my guitar or even when in the DAW and writing songs. You can spend so long looking for plugins or layering stuff that you never get the sketches done. Thank you for another great lesson.
@LesterLenoff Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@vincentleary1602 Жыл бұрын
Been writing for going on 17 years.... we all run into writers block and thank god i found this for a new acoustic adventure. This was the best layman explanation I could find.
@fathuman Жыл бұрын
Some good advice in there. I think the one big thing that wasn't addressed in the video is targetting chord tones in your melody. Especially the last note of a phrase hitting a chord tone is the most practical thing you can do. You can play a load of chromatic nonsense but if you end on a chord tone, it somehow legitimises everything that came before it.
@thelasttrumpet2915 Жыл бұрын
👍
@frizzy68358 ай бұрын
@@thelasttrumpet2915chord tone of the underlying or the next?
@ezrakelly941 Жыл бұрын
This channel actually helped me to start sitting down and trying out writing songs. Keep doing what you doing. You are blessed
@diederdas279 ай бұрын
Same for me! I’m almost done with my first ever song thanks to them
@davidlloyd138911 ай бұрын
Kippy and Benny, I don’t know if anyone tells you often enough, but you guys are amazing, and solo. Not only with your knowledge and wonderful teaching skills, but you absolutely inspire and motivate songwriters all over the world. Thank you for your wonderful work.
@menotyou94158 ай бұрын
True songwriters at work. Truly amazing to watch and learn from you (plural)!
@TimE_5150 Жыл бұрын
You two are such tremendous teachers! Thank you.
@maurikmalasllani2848 Жыл бұрын
I was writing a new song but was stuck at a certain point. I took a break and was watching this video. You gave me a hand with your wonderful tricks,I managed to finish the piece. You guys are great 👍✌️
@WilliamThompson-r6c11 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the straightforwardness of your videos. I stopped songwriting for so long and am trying to get back to it. Since watching your videos, my songwriting has improved by steps and leaps. LOL
@jacctus73834 ай бұрын
ive been watching tutorials on how to make music for a year and a half now and this is the best one ive seen, you guys deserve success! Thank you
@coffeecatcoziness9 күн бұрын
EXCELLENT video, thank you for truly starting from the beginning and keeping it concise and helpful! ❤
@CoraStanley-ue7rw11 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! This was so helpful! Not only the tips that you identified, but watching you go through the process was MOST valuable. I particularly like the way Keppie will sing the melodie feelings out the words as she did. It was as if she was feeling for the words hidden in the melodic phrasees. This was very useful in so many ways. I really do love learning from you both.
@porcelanek27016 ай бұрын
I'm geeking over this and I'm not even a musician.
@mellyb35603 ай бұрын
Brilliant! I’ve gotten several ideas just sitting here listening to you too 🤘 Thank you so much 🎶💖☮️
@edvolve3 ай бұрын
OK, this is my fifth video of yours that I’ve watched over the past week and a half. The previous ones I’ve seen multiple times at this point, it is clear that I need to subscribe and pay close attention. You are really have amazing capabilities for teaching
@48king24 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding guys! Btw your 14 Day challenge has pulled me out of a month long slump. Thanks for the hard work y’all put into your content.
@Daniel_Antonio_Arellano782 Жыл бұрын
I needed this. This is where I have my biggest challenge.
@jefferylusk25503 ай бұрын
I really felt those lyrics in my souls girl, I don't Wana ether. Great video thank you
@liquidsolids9415 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another fantastic video. I've been trying to get better at writing melodies so I will definitely use these techniques. Well done!
@annagram19 ай бұрын
hands down the most helpful advice i’ve heard! a lot of these concepts i sorta knew intuitively, but actually hearing their explanations gives me more confidence when using them!
@adityasastry131510 ай бұрын
Funny I always thought I was crazy to say words that don’t make sense but I guess that’s how you do it!! Thanks for this
@mattissakw10 ай бұрын
I’m a lyricist writer that’s always struggled the tune is in my head but you guys have made this so easy to understand how to understand a melody I really have struggled THANKYOU
@mattissakw10 ай бұрын
Could you also tell me where the pdf is please ❤
@chrisspinella Жыл бұрын
Song writing has always been an interest to me. Many times tried it, failed, got discouraged, thought I wasn’t meant for it or I didn’t have that “gift.” But you’re channel has given me hope. You’ve given the best straight forward lessons and because of these videos I will try it again.
@fishmut10 ай бұрын
Wow guys , I’ll never think of songs the same after this, ever time I hear music now it won’t be just the song alone but all the ups and downs , steps and variations in patterns in Melodie’s etc , loving your videos ,this is awesome , from a very beginner novice musically minded person ,you guys have opened my mind in a very new way and I love it. 🙏
@suzannebracker404910 ай бұрын
You guys are a perfect combination. Your expertise and enthusiasm is appreciated beyond words.
@MatthewEverettGates Жыл бұрын
Crystal clear. Thanks!! I keep seeing fragments of these ideas, but that was transcendently clear / practical / useable
@Elena-hs7dy Жыл бұрын
You guys are fabulous! ❤ Thank you for sharing this creative process! 😊
@AnitaGraber Жыл бұрын
My college songwriting class was basically music notation-had nothing to do with generating musical ideas-I’m so glad for your videos -thanks!
@iancurrie37636 ай бұрын
I love these two peeps
@gerrithdutoit835 Жыл бұрын
Another amazing video. You are really an inspiration! Thank you so much!
@ParasharJoshi Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Great content from you two, as always! Thanks a ton
@stochastic_elastic Жыл бұрын
how can we apply this method to situations where the lyrics are written first and the melody after? i know in the last section, you mentioned worrying about the lyrics later. for me, lyric writing is the root and the chords and notes and musical backing typically come after for me. it might as well just be poetry with no melody until i add it. sometimes words have natural rhythms that work with their syllables. and I'd like to know how can we apply this to a somewhat already formed syllable backing?
@timfreundmusic154611 ай бұрын
So fun to watch you crank out great melodic ideas. Worth emphasizing is your sense of rhythm. You touched on this but really with or without guitar in hand your rhythmic play is a joy to watch and hear. Just go back and listen to y our chorus, you’re grooving. Well done.
@tilleisbaer3560 Жыл бұрын
After a hiatus of a couple of months, my band and I appreciate your input. TYSM for that valuable content! :)
@thetwospirit7710 Жыл бұрын
I've watched a LOT of videos about how to write a heckin' melody... This one is probably the only one that gave me everything I needed. Thank u both for the gold quality content ❤️
@AbhayRajan Жыл бұрын
this video is golden
@algh56939 ай бұрын
Listening to you made me smile! Enjoyed this so much, thank you 💗
@ciaraceli875911 ай бұрын
I’m taking away so much from this! Most informative video I’ve seen in a long time! thank you guys 🩵
@odiajulius234910 ай бұрын
Steps , SKIPS and Leaps ...pls lets keep this in mind . It will be quite unfair to see skips as leaps ... especially as regards to prosody. Thanks for sharing your gifts of music . Nice video
@Bryant.Defiant4 ай бұрын
My new favorite channel 🔥🫡🎶❤️
@TheHarmonicaBarge Жыл бұрын
another great lesson! If melodic phrasing ideas are coming first, I guess this could have a big impact on lyrics? many thanks!! :)
@marthadahlen72375 ай бұрын
Terrific! Specific, clear directions. Also great delivery: no temptation to put it on fastplay. Thanks! I will try.
@folo94 ай бұрын
Amazing content as always!
@hansy13056 ай бұрын
Keppie has such a gorgeous singing voice. Would you guys consider doing some singing lessons for songwriters?
@YourFavouriteColor Жыл бұрын
a solid list! A couple other useful ones(I'm also a trained composer/songwriting professor so I like to nerd out about this stuff too) -keep your total range between an octave to an octave and a fifth. If you listen to most great melodies, ones that are intended to be sung by humans, usually the total range is around an octave and a third. This is the general sweet spot that guarantees that most people who sing your song won't struggle with either the highest notes or lowest. Beyond that, a lot of amazing melodies get up to as big as an octave and a half. Star Wars, "Belle" from beauty and the beast to name two out of an infinite number, are exactly an octave and a half. The Star Spangled Banner is also exactly an octave and a half. If you notice with those songs, most singers either strain a bit with the lowest notes(oh -oh SAY) or the highest (RED GLARE). that is not to say an octave and a half is bad. Most of my melodies are an octave and a half. It's just something to keep in mind that this is really the upper limit for most humans. So if you want most humans to sing your song, shoot for an octave and a third, and expand to an octave and a half when you have a really good reason. :) When it comes to one octave melodies, this tends to be the test of a true melody writing veteran. Keeping a melody inside of one octave while keeping it fresh, gripping, and irresistible is no small feat. However, it can be done. Killing Me Softly, one of the finest songs of the 20th century, is exactly 1 octave. Notice how it doesn't SEEM like one octave. It seems much more expansive, and that comes down to the fact that it's written well. Killing me Softly is a great demonstration of what can be accomplished inside of 1 octave when you really know how to write. To a lesser extent, "Happy Birthday" is also one octave exactly. Don't sneeze at it though. it's a solid tune! -don't stop with scales. Follow the changes! the advice in the video describes picking a scale and a key as raw material. This is a good start, but the next step from there is analyzing your chord changes and setting up your chord scales. A chord scale is the whole and half steps available to you over each chord. Most of the time, if the song is in 1 key, the chord scales are all the same. C major over the C chord, D dorian over the 2, etc. you know the drill. However, you'd be surprised how quickly this diverges the moment you start introducing anything blues related, because the 1 chord is mixolydian, the 4 chord is mixolydian, the 5 chord is mixolydian, the 6 chord gets turned dominant and a good chord scale there is D harmonic minor(getting a little advanced but you see my point). Anyway, when you plan accordingly, you can actually achieve what's called "implied harmony" in your melody. In "killing me softly," the "killing me softly with his song", the phrase "killing me softly" travels up an F minor arpeggio starting on C. We get C C C C F Ab ending on "with." The chord is F minor and the melody outlines the chord there. In the "Duck Tales" theme, "life is like a hu-ri-cane" the opening notes are D F# A, then climbing up to a C natural. D mixolydian. Singing the changes! Outlining and implying a D7 chord! This is an entire world of possibilities. -Varying phrase length. This one is not talked about often enough IMO. In this era of chord loops and "top lining," a vast majority of songs written today use almost all 2 bar phrases. 2 bar phrase, 2 bar phrase, 2 bar phrase, song after song, album after album. The 2 bar phrase is a bread and butter phrase length, but it's so crucial to be aware of phrase length and vary phrase length. It's a stellar tool to create momentum and electricity as you develop a section. Classic example is somewhere over the rainbow. "somewhere over the rainbow" 2 bar phrase. "way up high" two bar phrase "birds fly over the rainbow why oh why can't I?" 4 BAR PHRASE! In that example, that 4 bar phrase creates drive. it pierces through the 2 bar threshold into a brave new land. It adds a feeling of being on a rollercoaster. You'd be astonished at how many experienced songwriters completely overlook phrase length! it's a very powerful tool.
@nedim_guitar Жыл бұрын
This was a bit much. But good, helpful!
@bostonjensen1494 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful insight, thank you!
@davidbachy56277 ай бұрын
Never heard the term "Toplining" but that's a great concept to brainstorm melodies while allowing a lyrical idea to impose itself into the song.
@itsNXCK Жыл бұрын
what an amazing video! i really appreciate showing the sheet music when singing 🙌🏽
@dennisferrell36625 ай бұрын
This is really excellent instruction.
@robynchilcott7464 Жыл бұрын
Would love more examples of creating simple melodies, thank you for your teaching❤
@MusikaNiHakay2 ай бұрын
You guys are amazing❤
@darcymiller48197 ай бұрын
Thank you. I only wish I found your site sooner!!🙂
@musicmaniac1949 Жыл бұрын
At the beginning of this year, I decided that I was going to be a 'songwriter'...lol...well, it's be nine months and I still haven't written a complete song or anything that I would consider anything more than a 'good idea' for a song. I'm big on research, so I've been spending a lot of time reading and watching videos. Pat Pattison has a real cerebral approach, which has been very helpful, but your website has probably been the most beneficial on my quest. You and yours have not only broken down the process, but demonstrate it. I've learned a lot and I no longer feel like I'm in front of a brick wall. So I'm planning to have a song written by the time I'm seventy-five...I'm seventy-four now. Great videos.
@sometimessomberАй бұрын
how has your journey been a year later?😊
@musicmaniac194923 күн бұрын
@@sometimessomber You remembered me!!! Thank you. Okay, no complete song...yet, but great progress just the same. I've been in the business for over fifty years, so I know the work involved in just getting your ducks in a row. I've been recording and mixing some of my music, creating stems, etc.; plus all the paperwork necessary to be ready. I bought Ari Herstands book 'How To Make It In The New Music Business', things like that. So I'm hard at work in between my work from my home studio I've had here for twenty-five years. I'm still a big fan.
@noahortega9908 Жыл бұрын
Subscribed. I've been watching a lot of your videos but this one is fantastic 👏. Thankyou
@varzzzzable Жыл бұрын
thank you so much! this was so intuitive to understand. please continue the good work for the benefit of all of us.
@barrycoulter695111 ай бұрын
Wish i could i could hit the ‘like’ button again after re-watching! Lol …thx!…. Again!
@jetblackkinks5 ай бұрын
Keeps coming back to repetition and variation ❤
@LohPro Жыл бұрын
one of my favorite melody tips is to take an original idea & sequence it over chord changes, for example: a set of 4x quarter notes that move 1-4-3-5 over a [CMaj - GMaj - am - FMaj] progression would be the melodic notes of [C-F-E-G] - [G-C-B-D] - [A-D-C-E] - [F-B-A-C] I also like syncopation, along with bringing in the melody a bit later or early. like you guys mention, it introduces a "swing" or "head bop", rather than hearing stuff always hit on-beat or "where its supposed to". also, as far as leaps are concerned, i like to take general "tendencies" of notes & resolve them up or down by an octave, rather than by step. so where [7] wants to step up to [8], sometimes i like to resolve it down, by leap to [1]. so the notes are technically the same, but an octave apart, provides a bit of an unexpected sound. you guys kill it with every video, thank you very much for the insights & examples. A+
@iluvsyphonfilter Жыл бұрын
Fantastic lesson, I'll definitely try these tips!
@danbowers20 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous videos. I am really loving all of these wonderful ideas. Thank you, guys
@EngRMP Жыл бұрын
Just an astounding wealth of information. And, I love your teaching style... simple but effective examples, clearly described. I'm trying to incorporate these lessons into my guitar soloing ideas. But, it also helps me listen to and understand songs that I like.
@carinagatta11 ай бұрын
Amazing tutorial, thank you!❤
@chardin1468 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for more helpful advice. Well crafted video and great interaction between two friends.
@tereruggiu Жыл бұрын
you guys are now my new parents. no big deal.
@hansgruber90939 ай бұрын
Amazing video guys, thanks.
@rach4422 Жыл бұрын
You guys are Amazing! You just make it so simple ❤😊
@michelle-psl4441 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Melodies are my challenge and this was great!
@Jr_chesney Жыл бұрын
Very great lesson. Thanks for sharing 🙏
@buellzz Жыл бұрын
Play school for music. Really well crafted channel.
@LoftyAssertions Жыл бұрын
Oh my lord those strings are so OLD hahah Great video as always! Really appreciate what you're doing.
@John-m2s5e Жыл бұрын
you guys are the best. thanks for sharing
@solomann9405 ай бұрын
Great lesson 👌
@ms.jujubeatzproduction Жыл бұрын
Super lesson! Very helpful! Thank you!
@robertopalazuelos4964 Жыл бұрын
you guys rock! thank you, excellent teachers, cheers
@henslerartanddesign792 Жыл бұрын
Great practical info guys!
@123spaceinvaders6 ай бұрын
Awesome... Thanks
@keithdunwoody1302 Жыл бұрын
To me the lyrics always determine my entry point. The attitude is crucial. The word attitude actually means angle of approach. The syllabic structure also guides you adding so it sounds either natural (or not, depending on the desired effect).
@marywilson7760 Жыл бұрын
YOU ARE AN AMAZING TEACHER!
@M4R71N_88 Жыл бұрын
WOW! this channel is genius
@shubhamusicofficial Жыл бұрын
i loved it...very well explained! I loved the melodic timing part!
@Xscapeplan01 Жыл бұрын
BOOM!! this is gold!!
@ShortiesCleverShorts Жыл бұрын
Yes! These lessons are valuable. Thank you!
@Tom-Strummer Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this super helpful approach to creating melodies!
@dw1208 Жыл бұрын
Another great lesson. 👍👋🏼
@L.C.-ef4ik9 ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you!!
@rapsolistgeschmackstrager3952 Жыл бұрын
Hey, could you make a video about using key changes in a song, when they fit and how to build up to them??
@RUSTY-A-L Жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys, keep up the good work!
@mountmpublishinghouse Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Pleasant presentation. ❤❤❤
@grichimusic9161 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I just found you guys. Thank you so much for doing this🎉
@colindayo Жыл бұрын
Fab well done! Bravo!❤
@rovarelayoutube11 ай бұрын
THANK YOU. REALLY.
@edwinbrown995110 ай бұрын
Great video guys.
@marios_dimar Жыл бұрын
Well, I have some questions. Songwriting is something I just got involved in. So, in this video you suggest starting with a random melody. However, I haven't understood, how am I supposed to express certain feelings like this? How do I write melodies that tell the story I wish to tell? Also, don't I need a song map when I begin with melody first? Are song maps helpful only for the lyrics-first method?
@aaronregan5061 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT EXCELLENT YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@christopherfryda Жыл бұрын
I love this channel!
@AshWickham867 ай бұрын
This is awesome
@jeremiahlyleseditor437 Жыл бұрын
Very Informative and useful
@volkmarmohs4200 Жыл бұрын
also interesting are the number of notes that appear in verse and chorus:. In my experience verse in four lines between 26 and 40 notes (average rather 31) and a refrain average 24 notes. The chorus tends to have longer notes than in verse where more syllables need to be accommodated for the story. Does my observation share with your experience as a songwriter?
@aidanbrumsickle8 ай бұрын
Look at any of the uncountable "theme and variations" pieces from classical music for ideas on how to riff on a theme.