How torrenting works

[@juliaben8639]

if they tried to catch everyone who used a torrent or "stole" something, at least half of the human population would be in jail.

[@Detopie]

+Julia Ben seeing that half of the population doesn't even have access to a computer, thats incorrect. Nice try but yeah, a lot of people would be in trouble

[@mohanravi495]

Including judge

[@heinrichmirgrautsvordir6613]

@@mohanravi495 That would be me

[@rylaczero3740]

This also means that any action against torrenters would anger the masses.

[@0_-]

@@Detopie *half of the population that uses computers.

[@ValiiCuca]

Torrent is one of the coolest thing that happened to the Internet

[@fattahrambe]

its cool because its free.

[@mynameis1880]

And illegal

[@mobilespace877]

+Dheeraj Reddy Not necessarily illegal.

[@Exloar]

+Dheeraj Reddy Torrenting is Legal, Torrenting copyrighted files is Ilegal.

[@kumar1400]

Yes! otherwise the leading company had kneed down the cosumer like us to buy any cost they have mark to product even if its not worth. Still after the piracy they have a lot of money.

[@alamunez]

It's not stealing, it's making a copy.

[@fattahrambe]

haha, its true

[@xae9064]

+Kieran M. (Krock2000) Someone can easily buy it and copy it. So everyone can enjoy the content.

[@coololly]

+Kieran M. (Krock2000) not unless the original file is purchased. which is all the time.

[@Gueldonc]

dont copy that floppy disk

[@konrad303]

It's not stealing, it's violating the license. Consuming a product which took financial resources to produce without paying, against the rules of the owners.

[@TheWarisp]

Did *not* know Chester Bennington of Linkin Park was so tech savvy

[@smartypantsscrewdriver1304]

+youtube1 lol :3

[@BashToks]

Hahha. Good one

[@ManavSinghlp]

+youtube1 haha... weirder chester to be precise

[@javalin597]

+youtube1 PPPPfffffttttt

+youtube1 Same thing I thought when the video started! lol

[@ARMA4]

I downloaded a car once.

[@Syllence]

and 3d printed it?

[@Jaxv3r]

That's pathetic I download LIFE once

[@Dimaz42]

Yea, I download some money and donate it to hobos.

[@cool2570]

YOU WOULDNT STEAL A CAR

[@dr2d2]

ImRedBlueGreen what type?

[@Leuel48Fan]

Power to the people! Torrenting and the internet mass will ALWAYS win, no matter how they fight it. Long live torrenting!

[@TheDarKnignt]

hell yes

[@rylaczero3740]

Long live torrenting!

[@dawgcat3087]

Pirates united!

[@bigfreak4969]

BIG FAXX

[@luk1505]

Peer-to-peer system will never die. It's distributed, not centralized, so penalizing it takes huge amount of resources. And since everybody sends and receives data from everybody, responsibility for any illegal actions is diffused. It's a perfect system :D Immune to any regulations.

[@aryaaayra]

+luk1505 HAIL HYDRA

[@luk1505]

visnevskiscom Rather than cherry picking, I prefer to use statistics. There is thousands of people right now downloading torrents. Using different trackers from different countries, through different routs. It might seems to be easy, since my IP address is publicly visible. But any chance, that I will be the one who gets caught is like winning a lottery ;) Besides, there are ways to make finding you a bit harder.

[@AnimMouse]

visnevskiscom That's why VPN was invented.

[@rylaczero3740]

@@visnevskiscomIf someone does it, it's a crime. If everyone does it, it's a law.

[@rylaczero3740]

Yeah, BitTorrent is a pretty cool system. There is just one problem left to solve: anonymity. And once that is done, people can have true freedom on the internet.

[@elfamosisimoJON]

Its not stealing, its sharing.

[@MyDarkMuffin]

+elfamosisimoJON sharing is caring

[@ParanoidTrip]

Yeah man it is funny if we are get caught because watching Game of Thrones together. The house owner allowed us for sharing and annual meet up, But the govt forbid it because our memory will contain free Game of Thrones series.

[@hoseadavit3422]

Sharing huh I see you are a true comrade

[@kKevin09]

Yes and also seeding

[@gangsterbob007]

no. piracy is wrong. you are stealing and not paying for it. the only people excused for piracy are children who dont have jobs. if you can work, you can cough up the 15 dollars to wait for the sale.

[@Wingly113]

oh wow, the musics that we illegal downloaded, those music producer/artists are crying in their Lamborghini Aventador right now

[@AlejandroLZuvic]

+Ivan Lee not to mention Britney's Gulfstream 3.

[@lupreztryson]

@@AlejandroLZuvicit’s a gulfstream g8 now

[@optimizedpatch]

@@lupreztryson replying to an 8 year old comment is crazy

[@anonim091]

@@optimizedpatch bro probably died in the cov-era

[@Rio-ke9he]

hei guys, please seed

[@Aakash_Goswami1]

Seeding

[@Aakash_Goswami1]

Download complete?

[@thefancydancer]

I got you mate.

[@zedspoint4614]

Nice try FBI

[@snay6869]

Hahaha yeah I seed my torrents don't worry

[@DrMorocho]

OK, how can we start seeding this video?

[@sanjaylord]

LOL.

[@Aakash_Goswami1]

I just did

[@MysteryPancake]

youtube-dl

[@BudderB0y2222]

If a you manage to find a torrent of it then knock yourself out

[@amey777]

Stop catching us FBI

[@Kenneth-jt7ul]

Sharing is caring...

[@AnimMouse]

Pedro You are always seeding when you are leeching.

[@DylanOB]

Movies without paying? I would never ever do that….

[@KaranBulani]

yeah me too

[@beauwarrington1347]

Uhh huh 😂

[@beanything2858]

+Dylan O Brien well yeah people do that as daily activities in a number of countries

[@uhhhwhatdoipick]

+Dylan O Brien Let's download a car!

[@DylanOB]

saywhat You wouldn’t download a car!

[@scikick]

1. This part of the world has no access to international internet payments yet. 2. Most of us make around 10 dollars a day. That's actually enough here, but it's minuscule on the internet. Would you be willing to pay your 1 day worth of income to Spotify or HBO Go or something?

[@SixFingeredAmish]

Not having enough money to pay for luxury goods doesn't justify not paying for it

[@mcnuonuo]

+SixFingeredAmish music and movies shouldn't be luxury. It's expensive only because greedy production companies want to make loads.

[@hasaanmasood]

+SixFingeredAmish yeah but people from 3rd world countries do not make the market demand meaning that they do not have the relevant means to purchase the good anyway f they didn't have the means to pirate, in all likelihood they wouldn't consume such a luxury. obviously, there is those present who pirate regardless of their disposable income but the masses don't have the money or the source to buy such a luxury. I remember the time when I had the will/money to buy an app on play store but the only hurdle was payment method, so I had to crack the app.

[@lltheFacell]

+Qin Zhu It is a luxury. It is not necessary to survive therefore it is only consumed when there is expendable income. Saying it's greedy for companies to want to make profit off what they put out is ignorant and completely ignores basic principles of economics and business. If they weren't making money, there wouldn't be an industry in the first place.

[@hasaanmasood]

lltheFacell technically the people belonging to the low income group and 3rd world countries do not make up the effective demand. Obviously they still do make profit as in developed countries people and aware and literate enough to make an official purchase while the whole this is also enforced by law.

[@FoodGurudevs]

Torrent is like a Robin Hood of the 21st century 😜😂

[@elverguddo4878]

LOL

[@hoseadavit3422]

The different is everyone is a Robin hood unless you leech of course

[@Kipplz]

@@hoseadavit3422 Could you please explain seeding and leeching for me?

[@hoseadavit3422]

@@Kipplz Seeding is basically mean that when you finish download something like a zip or a rar file or any data, you give some of it (upload) to let other download from your computer giving faster download speed and makes it harder to track. Leeching is pretty much the same as seeding but you intentionally prevent other from downloading the data you just download on your computer which pretty make the download for other slower.

[@azyjmexcuseokstop924]

@@hoseadavit3422 so the guy's named lil'robin from the hood instead of robin hood ?

[@robertgowdey]

Blizzard uses torrent technology. It's not just for illegal activity.

[@cwestpha]

+Robert Gowdey Well almost every MMO now uses some kind of torrenting technology to keep costs low and increase patching speeds for their updates. Hell, even Windows 10 now has a Peer to Peer updates feature that works a bit like BitTorrent. Then there is the open source movement that uses BitTorrent to help with quickly pushing out new ISO releases to switchers. Nothing about the technology is illegal, its just the most common use is because it's so robust and distributed... and those two features are seeing it gain acceptance in other spaces. They just often don't advertise its Bittorent or call it something else (i.e. Steam).

[@portzblitz]

Right.. I'm surprised he didn't mention that. Let's face it, the guts of the subject is about piracy, but the system itself is brilliant and value for many distribution circumstances. Like your for-instance, for instance. Cheers.

[@bothellkenmore]

+portzblitz Yes, a little disappointed that use was not mentioned.

[@Monomonmamon]

+Robert Gowdey even facebook does, they use it to transfer files from servers to servers

[@AkshayBharwani]

The music made me feel like I was watching Mr. Robot.

[@JamesRussoMillas]

The Verge, shhh. No one does this...

[@sophisticatednebula4236]

+James Russo I don't even know what it is.

[@JamesRussoMillas]

Gaming Hamst3r Me neither.

[@sophisticatednebula4236]

James Russo Yeah. (⚆ _ ⚆)

[@EfrenBailey]

+Gaming Hamst3r, +James Russo One of the greatest comment threads ever!

[@eatcarpet]

It's not really stealing, it's just against what is called the "copyrights infringement" law.

[@rylaczero3740]

haha And that law is not made by the majority of the people because otherwise the majority of the people will not be torrenting.

[@DlcEnergy]

@@rylaczero3740 If the majority wasn't paying for movies, they'd stop making movies. Where do you think the budget to make movies even comes from? And also, laws aren't what the majority wants them to be. If everyone voted that everything is free, what would that lead to...

[@DlcEnergy]

@@rylaczero3740 You should see what happened in South Africa after they all rioted over president zuma's arrest. When society descends into complete anarchy, they destroy themselves. They would starve without the mercy shown to them. There were queues for miles just for them to get groceries.

[@gangsterbob007]

Nope. It is theft.

[@georgepapa8185]

stop reviewing smartphones and do more videos likethis, for fucks sake

[@goonbag803]

exactly what i was about to say!

[@Zenyell]

Let's be honest, piracy will never end. The people in the entertainment industry should just deal with it. There's still a LOT of people that go to premieres and showing in cinemas to watch the movies. Plus, they'll get more exposure for the cast and crew. It's a win-win situation.

[@xd_guy894]

I have 8 gigs on my laptop Where can I download ram so I can run club penguin ?

[@Stealth_Robot]

+green913 lol

[@frankjin6407]

Im pretty sure I have a terabyte i get average 20 fps

[@hattu7924]

i have 2tb of ram too, installed some ssds to get minecraft running quicker :DDD

[@hipxel]

@@hattu7924 maaan club penguin is so hardware intensive

[@Nextthinkerz]

Man that editing is so sick!

[@sjwimmel]

Funfact (well, I think it's fun): There are several correct pronunciations of µTorrent, but the most interesting is "MicroTorrent". The letter mu (µ) is also a prefix for numbers meaning "one millionth", and pronounced "micro", as in micrometer. It refers to how small µTorrent is as a program.

[@yisroelbinstok1122]

Its crazy how I have been torrenting for almost a year now for several different people and groups, and I never even knew it worked this way.

[@RahulSathanapalli]

Great video! Would have loved to see a bit more on how magnet links eliminate the need of a Tracker Server though.

[@keithhopkin]

Most people don't know this but this is actually how Spotify works and how it works so well.

[@BernardBrunu1]

+Keith Hopkin Spotify actually pay some Artist and it isn't free.

[@keithhopkin]

+Bernard Brunu torrenting is not just for getting things for free. They use something similar to deliver their streams so efficiently. And for the record I pay for Spotify. Sadly, the artists do not make as much as they should.

[@eatcarpet]

+Keith Hopkin What you don't connect to their own server? What a rip off.

[@GDKira44]

the Internet always wins

[@danielrmorenop]

genuinely a great video with like, great cinematography lol

[@spicyweasel]

+Daniel Moreno Exactly. Love the way they shot the whole thing. Shouldve taken a long time maybe

[@ZentexE]

I never knew it worked this way. Pretty insane.

[@soulife8383]

I always thought the client would start seeding "chunks" as they were being downloaded, so you were still sharing as you downloaded. This video says once the file is completely downloaded is when it starts seeding though.. Actually, if you download something right now and watch the activity, you'll see outbound data being sent simultaneously.

[@MrC0MPUT3R]

I download all my linux distros over torrent. It's so much faster than the direct download.

[@xerzy]

Same here! I also use it to download _legal_ music from places such as OverClocked Remix, which offer some pretty fast downloads for FLACs. I don't think that "piracy" (a.k.a. sharing digital content) is a crime (it's not even illegal in my country!!! - at least, if you don't seed), but it's not like it's the only purpose torrents are useful for. Not by far.

[@MrHeHim]

I have a 100mbps down connection, and I notice every time a website uses the torrent system to offer downloads it almost always run much faster than there servers. Could be that the places that do offer it as an option do so because of limited bandwidth on there servers IDK

[@trinitrotoluene3D]

you aren’t a lost customer if you weren’t going to buy the paid app in the parallel universe where torrenting didn’t exist

[@albertorubio2029]

Really loved the simplified explanation! Please keep doing similar videos!

[@Jigglypoof]

So how are magnet links different from a torrent tracker?

[@sancharidas7532]

The amount of editing went into the video, successfully giving me each kind of ASMR effect.

[@belldrop7365]

It's funny there's no torrent explanation here on youtube that isn't 90% talk about piracy.

[@element1192]

Imagine somebody steals your car, but it's still in your driveway the next day. Was your car really stolen? That's how piracy works

[@thefreegamer7928]

But he did not pay for my fuel !

[@GoldenEDM_2018]

​@@thefreegamer7928your fuel is still in your car, in your driveway. Untouched. no one stole your fuel.

[@thefreegamer7928]

@@GoldenEDM_2018 How did the car got stolen then ? It must have been driven ! And driving consumes fuel, which I pay !💁‍♂️

[@GoldenEDM_2018]

@@thefreegamer7928 your car was not stolen. If it is then it wouldn't be on your driveway. Piracy is not stealing. It's just copying. Your car was copied, not stolen. OP above is wrong on his analogy.

[@iDoComputers]

no, it was always in your driveway, it just got a copy of itself

[@dohran]

rips found via torrent are so much more high quality than streaming, it baffles me

[@Living_Dead_Girrl]

What makes this even more baffling is that most are ripped from a streaming service - and stream in much higher quality with zero lag on your network. The issue appears to be their lack of video caching on streaming devices, which perhaps is to “prevent” downloading (fails anyways because they cheap out on updating video encoders that’ve had gaping security holes for up to a decade), requiring you to use tons of data loading and reloading the same content, and the file itself is heavily compressed causing massive loss in quality, just so it can buffer quickly. When playing a cached video, there’s zero lag in the controls. Pretty sure streaming services that enable “downloading for offline viewing,” are simply downloading an encrypted cached file to your system. They’re stifling technological progress… and wasting our data.

[@iDoComputers]

that aint stealing. end. of. story. torrenting is the best thing here on the internet

[@PaconskY]

Valve told a while ago, the reason why people go to pirates is because the original distributor does a bad job of making the offer seem worth it. The example they used was Russia. Back then, when a new game released, Russian fans would have to wait at least a month, pay a large price, when compered with what they earned. At the same time, pirates would provide it on the same say of release, for free. Most pf the times pirates did a much better job at brining the game to the players. When valve started to sell its games in Russia, they released them on the same date as everywhere, with a pricing policy that lowered prices for Russia.

[@SwobyJ]

Yep. It is media companies not realizing that technology has devalued their media. Doesn't mean the media is bad. It means that we are in evolving economic paradigms. Value was more ahead of the curve (so far).

[@user-hk3ej4hk7m]

I hate when people name things based on what they are use for, it's like calling the pithagoras' theorem "the thing used to solve rectangular triangles"

[@saarlevy9891]

Torrent are not just used for pirating, and I'm not talking about downloading royalty free files. Blizzard for examples uses the torrent protocol when you download their games.

[@kaineshutler]

This was really well put together.

[@Levi-27]

+Kaine Shutler Yeah, for a Verge video

[@KaiserLandsknecht]

Excellent short explanation

[@SuperSmellyBob]

Finally some quality content from the Verge.

[@lburger404]

What is the music track in the background?

[@pdtv8275]

Great cinematography! The music kept me drawn in and the visuals matched the suspense.

[@anonym6891]

The background music is way too loud.

[@lolman1857]

I saw an ad but I knew I had to watch it to support this awesome channel

[@iGuysCOMEDY]

My god, this video is great! the composition, editing, flow, and pace all work perfectly. And that bass!

[@b-1battledroid674]

Torrent in a nutshell: Apes alone weak Apes together strong

[@LiegeMaximo]

XD

[@abood_is_alive]

My professor went on a 10 minute unhinged rant about how torrents work and i didn't understand any of it, but now i understand some of his points, thanks.

[@ninjascotsman]

This video is full of misinformation torrents are used in a few different such as some video games use tormenting to update games and many Linux operating systems are avabile through torrenting.

[@JetFeather]

I’m not paying $60 for a 7 year old call of duty game

[@eatcarpet]

This doesn't explain how serverless trackers work!

[@309387421]

Releasing this video when we're in the middle of a GoT season, how fitting.

[@SenorEscaso]

So when someone says "seeding a torrent" is that what you were talking about at 0:50?

[@nystro0m]

+SenorMateo Yes..

[@spicyweasel]

+Måns Nyström Maybe you become a peer who has the one of the seed for the download.

[@AlejandroLZuvic]

Everything fine until "... real reason is you're stealing things". First of all, you described peer-to-peer transmission, that's not necessarily torrent transmission. Many servers use exactly this concept to balance traffic and diverge content (it actually was the idea behind Tim Berners-Lee's drafts of the early World Wide Web), the first "implementation" of the WWW, USENET used this concept; many downloaders and installers use this very same mechanism to leverage traffic to users (Blizzard's WoW and Starcraft 2 downloaders come to mind, but I'm sure there're many others), Google used to use a similar concept inside its offices (pretty sure they still use it), many decentralized networks at local and wide local levels work like this (as I said before, the first idea behind the WWW worked like this), SMTP email uses a P2P layer as well, Tor works at some level with P2P in mind. Have you ever heard of the SETI@Home project? BOINC? IBM's World Community Grid? Torrents are a very small piece on the great scheme of peer to peer communications. Stealing things is even smaller. I always ALWAYS use bittorrent options to download open source software and most open source enthusiasts I know do it as well. Also, "stealing" may be technically right but... it doesn't really feel like stealing when most movie studios would bring to court anyone and everyone who "steals" a single copy of a film for which they earned billions and they released it when, where and how they wanted. Like... a TV series a month after premiere on its original country... and dubbed? Try harder.

[@MrZattack101]

I accidentally torrented for utorrent for 3 months... Whops

[@legion_std2833]

Never thought Chester Bennington was teaching web dev

[@1blackbirrrd]

He makes it sound like torrents are used only for illegal activity, but lots of big corporations use P2P to distribute their files and reduce their server load. In fact, Microsoft was using P2P to serve Windows 10 to users.

[@racool911]

Wait so if you watch a show or a movie for free on a random website you found online, is that Torrent, or is it only Torrent if you download something

[@aligokce4791]

I'm very impressed with the music in the background.

[@MitchellCamps]

Stellar video, enjoy whats been on this channel lately.

[@SwobyJ]

"Uh I'm going to vaguely imply that torrenting is bad but not explicitly state it because I'd personally be a massive hypocrite and most of us realize how ubiquitous it is in society but you should still feel problematic about it and here's some ambiguously toned music while I explain how it works."

[@fmond2594]

This is one of the best and shortest explaining video if EVER seen. Those edits are fire!!!

[@WarfareHD1]

Torrenting is like a friend who buys a program or movies and wants to share it with his 2 million other friends.

[@YehoshuaD]

+AirsoftWarfareHD It finally gives a "face" to all those "followers" and "friends" on social media...Because no one really has that many friends in real life...

[@novatwist5816]

Nice video. Short and concise. Still relevant 2024

[@tarunkashyap5183]

Did I Just saw Chester Bennington

[@LuigiCotocea]

Golden Rule: use vpn

[@alsawafi88]

The entertainment industry needs to make the content available to everyone Worldwide at the same time

[@氷語]

I want to use torrent to offload server costs. Its the same with weapons, they aren't unethical. The person using it chooses its purpose.

[@gnanaprakashm843]

Once I downloaded a WinRAR crack and found that it was a zip file.

[@urm1n]

Could you provide resources and video animation assets that were used in this video i had the seminar on torrenting? I'm preparing for a presentation and documentation and would like to include them in my PowerPoint slides.

[@exogendesign4582]

Great Cinematography and content, Those B-rolls fits perfectly fine, Damn I should stick with the content but since I am in to photography and videography I can't help but notice the arrangement of the video, simply superb.

[@bassond87]

Love the style of this video and the integration of the motion graphics too!

[@keenancantskate9004]

You wouldn't download a car

[@Harp00nX]

if it were possible most people probably would lol

[@SwobyJ]

That's why the campaign backfired and torrenting has only increased, at least in general use (maybe not frequency). I wonder how all these megacorps will handle minifacturing/'3d printing'.

[@AnimMouse]

16BitBaz Let's wait until 3D printer gets mainstream.

[@Mirsab]

Did you compose the music yourself?

[@14crusader88]

Torrenting is based. Billions must seed.

[@kasper369]

torrenting is fancy term for sharing stuff just like you do with your friends expect your friends are from are from all over the world

[@pratapyonghang8933]

so when we keep the downloaded file but remove it from torrent application , does that stop those downloaded files from being shared with others?????? please tell me if i am wrong

[@matrxmusic]

WHAT IS THAT BACKGROUND SCORE?

[@mapalozimba2107]

But where does the original file come from

[@8lz731]

back ground music pls

[@BpLtr]

Particle Emission · Silver Maple

[@chadwarren9677]

My question is when the client says it is seeding a file where does it go? Why do I have to go to a tracker site if the client is distributing files? Why can't I find the files based on the client network?

[@cgme7076]

You forgot to mention free distros like Linux. The downloads are often in torrent form so that they download quicker.

[@edwincloudusa]

background music......... why?.....................

[@4voxel]

cant hear anything to much music

[@petertimowreef9085]

It's not stealing. It's not even buying a ticket to a festival and then cutting a hole in the fence to let your friends in, because there is only a limited amount of space on a festival terrain. That's just semantics though. You're still consuming something that cost a lot of money to make for free.

[@pietrobongiovanni2774]

The Verge video team produces some great content. Keep it up guys

[@asif09ansari]

Background noise can ruin a good video

[@jacobxiaolong9104]

People: $5.99 for one character?!?! Pirates: here, get this DLC! People: What's the cost? Pirates: FREE! *Soviet National Anthem plays*

[@kirafortherescue7756]

How is it stealing when someone purchased the whole thing and decided to share it?

[@lburger404]

Best video I've seen that explains torrents. Thanks!

[@woilah794]

What is the name of the music inthe beginning????

[@semibiotic]

You start sending data to other users immediately once downloaded the very first chunk, so even servers aren't actually needed, while user have all the chunks and keep share them.

[@Knight-73]

The reason the horse in elden ring is named torrent is because when you search elden ring torrent it’ll show this horse

[@thatrandomrecorder914]

Like what Mojang did with the Breeze. (The Breeze client was a popular hack client)

[@Knight-73]

@@thatrandomrecorder914 yes

How does magnet links solve tracking servers? Felt like you skipped over it.

[@realbobbyaxel]

Let's all thank Bram Cohen the genius who invented torrent

[@iceydaywalker9198]

QUESTION I STILL CANNOT FIND AN ANSWER FOR: is it considered torrenting when you watch movies online for free but you don't actually *download* anything? for example, you simply type in "watch (insert movie name) online free," then you find a website with it and you watch it without making any download. thanks in advance! :)

[@uMohamed]

the music is very noisy