How Tunic Was Made and Why it Has Content For No One

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[@LOL_MANN]

nuh uh

[@thesolitaryowl]

Godot

[@payow_]

​@@LOL_MANNits really good

[@GerdLPluu]

Their site is broken when you try to access it from Germany. Automatically forwards to the german version and then just shows a 404 for everything. Not a particularly good look for a development tool, I have to say.

[@eduardomoura2813]

why use toy, dead end engines like gamemaker or godot when the good ones like unity or unreal are also free

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Special shoutout to the game's creator, Andrew Shouldice, for providing the concept art and screenshots of the desert area featured in the video! What video game would you like to see me cover next? Leave a suggestion in the comments below! Also, if you enjoyed the video, please consider subscribing to stay up to date on future “How Games Were Made” episodes. Leaving a like and sharing the video also helps out! Support me on Patreon and get exclusive content like Q&As, ad-free content, access to my Discord server and more: www.patreon.com/ThatGuyGlen

[@zDyant]

Grime would be cool, has an incredible design, Grime 2 is coming out soon

[@MiyamotoMusashi16]

can we get a vid on ULTRAKILL or GLOOMWOOD

[@KittycatKye]

OneShot

[@DilemmaDuwb]

Totally accurate battle simulator

[@superlol178]

Necrodancer is a classic!

[@PanupatChong]

Encourage players to work together - my god you have no idea how far astray the game's Discord has become. After a few weeks of everyone being friendly, I mentioned in there that I looked up some secret and the community immediately showed so much hatred towards me for not figuring things out by myself. It's gotten so bad I had to just leave.

[@DiThi]

It's a bit of a paradox. I don't know about that discord but if it didn't already I think it should have a section that you only enable on purpose for after you finished the game, where people actually collaborate to find hard secrets. As well as a method to interact with only one or two players that have a similar amount of play time, in a way that sharing secrets don't ruin the game.

[@Dracossaint]

That's very disheartening to hear. I'm sorry man 😢.

[@user__214]

Great video, thank you! I wanted to add a couple of linguistics notes: 7:02 Tunic doesn't have a new language; it has a new script for an existing language (English). English is usually written using Latin characters, but you can also write it using Tunic's script. Just like you can write Japanese using either Latin script (e.g. "nihongo") or one of the Japanese scripts ( 日本語). 7:51 This is kind of a confusing explanation of phonemes... Tunic, similar to Japanese hiragana or many other scripts, has characters or parts of characters that directly correspond to sounds. That's why it's a phoneme-based writing system. English, famously, is written using characters that map *very poorly* to sounds. "Though" has a silent "gh" and an "ou" vowel that is pronounced a bunch of different ways in different words. Think of it this way: if you are a child who speaks English, and you learn the English alphabet, you *still* have to learn how to spell. You have to learn that "though" is spelled "though", despite the fact that "tho" would have been much more sensible. You don't have this problem if you're, say, Japanese. If you speak Japanese and learn all of the hiragana, you can spell almost any word, because by knowing how to say it, you also know how to spell it! This is also true if you want to write English using the Tunic script - just by knowing how to pronounce a word, you know how to spell it. Hope that helps!

[@ThatGuyGlen]

My pleasure, glad to hear you liked it! And thank you for the notes, you explained it very well!

[@cheesymcnuggets]

TUNIC has been my no.1 favourite game since I played it and I don't think I'm ever gonna back down from this hill. Although since playing Outer Wilds, I can't help but see the 2 as equals... when I first finished Outer Wilds, it wasn't even in my top 20 but it kinda just lives in your head and you begin to appreciate more over time until yeah

[@olaf.forkbeard]

They are different genres with different appeals. I learned this the hard way. TUNIC was one of the best games I've ever played. I now do randomizers of it to experience it's level design and combat systems in fresh ways. Simply put: Outer Wilds lack of mechanical growth / mastery (just the brain portion of themetroidbrainia) bored me. These games share a lot of meta design for feel and exploration, but I want gams I play to have something to master other than my diagnosed ADHD OCD brain working in circles. I have that every day, with no off time, already. I put 22 hours into Outer Wilds (mostly due to coming back to it several times and relearning things again). I really wanted to like it, and gave it a real shot. I just didn't enjoy my time and the payoff never clicked.

[@cheesymcnuggets]

@@olaf.forkbeard I too couldn't get into Outer Wilds the first few times, then i had one friend buy it so i gave it another go, he dropped it after going to each planet a couple times but i kept going, i think part of that is because i had another friend who had already finished the game to talk to about, she would listen to all my theories and manage to hold a conversation about it without spoiling anything. I guess the gameplay felt very samey, whereas Tunic had new game mechanics being introduced as you go which helps keep it fresh during that first playthrough. The dlc of Outer Wilds is quite different from the base game, it's more compact and somewhat linear so that felt more digestible the same was Tunic was (Linear compared to Outer Wilds base game i mean, obviously they aren't that linear). Disclaimer: I talk a bit about the design, philosophy and development of Outer Wilds, you can stop reading here if you want, my comment doesn't really go anywhere. But yeah even after finishing Outer Wilds, like i said, it wasn't even close to being my favourite game, but the ending really does get you thinking, and for a lot of people, changed their perspective on life, the game has cool mechanics but where it really shines is in it's philosophy and story which funny enough, was not something they focused much on during it's development. The team spent most of development looking at the game from a technical standpoint, even the artists. The way they designed the story was by creating main points of interest and then webbing it all together with minor points of interest. And that's how they looked at it, they basically just gave that framework to their writer and had her make it work. Without a doubt there was probably a lot more to it than that but that's all I could find from my hour of research. So strange that the game mostly beloved for it's story and philosophy never intended for that to be the outcome. Their goal was to make players go "AH HA" when they finally put things together. The actual context of what they were putting together was not a main interest of theirs. I can't help but doubt that though, because of the dlc which is very obviously inspired by Albert Camus' book "The Stranger", the entire world of the dlc revolves around his philosophy whereas with the base game, Albert Camus' influence is only present in the ending and not so much the physical world you explore or even in the Nomai.

[@Wiz_and_Pippy]

Sorry, I'm writing this merely moments into the video because I have to give flowers on the beginning effects. That opening title card with the tv effect was immaculate, I've watched it a dozen times now. And the book opening effect was something I've been striving for. Would you mind sharing how you achieved such a clean book opening and presenting effect? Thank you in advance and again, *incredible* work!

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Thank you for the kind words! I use Adobe After Effects for all my videos and man, it would take me a while to explain in detail how I achieved those effects. I would recommend searching for After Effects tutorials that specifically explain how to create a book page flip effect. The intro is a combination of glitch effects and chromatic aberration effects.

[@Wiz_and_Pippy]

@@ThatGuyGlen Thank you, I'll start there!

[@poppymuffinseed]

It's funny knowing that he also made that old, super pixelated horror(?) game HIDE; it's so totally different and it was a surprise to find out I had already played a game by him! If you can find it, I'd recommend it, very short but interesting game. May be hard to find due to it's name and age, but if you just want to see what it was I know Markiplier and Jacksepticeye played it at least!

[@Justdoingsometing]

I really liked the game, i liked how it gave information not abilities kind of like outerwilds.

[@boiimcfacto2364]

It does give abilities though, because the Hero's Laurel allows you to access some places. In that way it's a combination of a metroidvania and a metroidbrainia.

[@J4K4M1]

great video as always, I knew about tunic before, but this will be the next game I buy because of you. Hope for a video about signalis or something by new blood in the future

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Thank you, glad you liked it! And enjoy playing Tunic! Signalis is on my (huge) list of games to cover.

[@Norepicklin]

Why the rebranding?

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It started to bother me that I didn't have an actual logo for the channel. I also wanted a more unique name for the series. "How Games Were Made" just felt too generic. So I gave it a shot and started experimenting with logos and more pleasing colors, while still trying to retain the feeling of the old look.

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⁠@@ThatGuyGlenisn’t the titles still the same? How Blank Game was made. And why blank….

[@SanoKei]

@@zojirushi1 yeah but there's now a guy behind it not a channel

[@emperor8716]

@@SanoKeiwasn’t it always “thatguyglen”?

[@zojirushi1]

@@emperor8716Mandela effect fr

[@Odincraft-j6v]

I just love Tunic to death. Such an underrated masterpiece that definitely succeeds in capturing that sense of wonder and exploration!

[@ric8248]

After months of ignoring this game you now totally sold it to me.

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Haha I highly recommend it!

[@nightcoffeeshot3631]

He's back!

[@homegrownstudios5812]

Never stop making these videos!!! (for as long as you want to & it makes sense to for your life lol) They mean alot to me and are always so inspiring to watch! The attention to detail is immaculate and as someone who cares just as much about how something was made as the final product itself, I love these deep dives more than you can imagine. Thank you so much for making such awesome videos and posting them free for people like me to watch!!

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Thank you very much for the kind words! Comments like yours make my day. I love making these videos so I have no intention whatsoever to stop making them :D

[@kiddbusiness]

Pure dedication (Also I love these types of videos! New subscriber! Keep up the good work!)

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[@codered_dev2]

let's goooooo!!!

Yes please!

[@haacho6807]

These vids are always the best, keep up the good work! ❤

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Much appreciated and will do!

[@LOL_MANN]

yuh

[@cosasacelebrar3974]

One of my favourite games ever

[@Egospair]

Yippie

[@funkypinku]

i was just thinkin of ur doki doki video. nice new style!!

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Much appreciated!

[@Yurei83]

Song name @15:26 please?

[@maximianocoelho4496]

Memories of memories or Remember to remember

[@Yurei83]

@@maximianocoelho4496 Thank you

[@minehappysky]

The production of this video is amazing! Great work truly

[@HarryPujols]

Unpopular POV: Tunic is a bad game. It's unnecessarily obtuse, unnecessarily difficult, all to replicate a nostalgic view of bad game design that you see now with rose-tinted glasses, but it was bad, and they didn't know better at the time.

[@spidey5156]

Tunic was such a special game to me. I reached out to Andrew just to say thank you, and he responded with a very thoughtful message. It meant a lot to me, cemented the whole experience as one of my all time favorites!

[@OmegaJX]

This game was a joy to play, made me sob like a baby, and discover things like i was a kid, i don't want to say much since it's at risk of it being a potential spoiler, if anyone reads this, please, play Tunic, it's one of the best experiences i've had in gaming.

[@theoteno]

I played Spring Falls for a while, but got stuck at some puzzles then. Good to know its developer also worked on Tunic later!

[@Rpodnee]

I loved Tunic and I seriously hope he makes another indie game in the future!

[@despeinado340]

It's so cool to hear about the genesis of Tunic, because they fucking nailed the original concept.

[@Dracossaint]

The fact that he actually nailed all of his goals and it's literally things I already knew without even listening to this. God tunic is good

[@julianoalberto]

Thanks for sponsoring this video, GayMaker.

[@Allen-jj7vv]

Tunic should win best indie game instead of Stray.

[@drnothot]

I liked tunic and i hate myself for not liking the old zelda formula more

[@albevanhanoy]

Tunic content: I haven't even seen the video yet, I click like.

[@MosakMarcin]

Great doc! Waiting on the one on Inscryption

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Thank you! And keep an eye out for the next video 👀

[@Dracossaint]

I absolutely adore this game! Even got the book ❤❤

[@KittycatKye]

I wasn't aware of Tunic before watching this video! I will consider playing it for myself.

[@ThatGuyGlen]

I highly recommend it!

[@ergoits]

Playing Tunic right now! Love the game

[@metropolis10]

Great documentary! Remember kids, keep your day job, do indie gamedev as your hobby.

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Thanks, glad you liked it!

[@faland0069]

what is the video that shows up at 11:05, 12:00 and 13:15?

[@Mindstormer]

All this work to have it be my favorite game of all time

[@Qerewe]

Tunic content in 2024. We eating good tonight

[@VincentBard-m2k]

White Joseph Lewis Christopher Moore Ruth

[@joksimradovic4040]

Nice!

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Thanks!

[@CrossFireKitty]

I think the game is cute, I personally don't care for the word translation mechanics of the game. Why? When I saw the mail box, I thought the word would be more literal, mailbox, or mail or something about the mail box...(it kind of was) Luckily there is a translator web site and when I put the shapes in, and found out the actual word was .... .... ..... ..... .... .... .... "Empty" (to avoid even a small spoiler) I have more fun putting the shapes in there to see what it says then playing the game sometimes. I also find the shapes of these letters hard to draw. I went and got graph paper but since you can have the parts divided into a upper and lower or you can have them merged into one, that also throws me off...as I am slightly dyslexic. Not a lot, just enough to easily confuse some lines from one sound from another. Using the graph paper and the online translator was the only way I was able to realize the shop of the basic E sound and not have to guess if it was correct. I think if there was something in the game that confirmed the sounds, I would have liked it a lot more. Again, just my opinion. ;) I ended up just using a guide after a while as I no longer cared what the words said at some point and just wanted to finish the game. Translating words isn't my thing I admit. Plus I never read the game manuals, even when I was younger. I'm 53 so when console games came out, I was already 27 or something. (oops, I just looked up Nintendo and it came out in 1983, so I was only 13 then. ;) but I still didn't read the manuals and I could still real very well by then. No need to go..."what does this mean?") So I just prefer to discover things in the game by playing, not reading about how to discover things in a tiny book.

[@essneyallen6777]

The language translation is not really part of the game though, you are not even technically meant to engage with it. The language is there to give shape to things, but you will complete the game without ever needing to translate anything. I sure did :)

[@CrossFireKitty]

@@essneyallen6777 I've heard that but I don't care for that either ;)

[@WindowsNT_]

Hello again, hope your week has been going well Also great video 👍

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Hey there! Thank you, glad to hear you enjoyed it and hope your week has been going well as well!

[@miraliseyyedisahebari177]

Please do Noita too

[@ThatGuyGlen]

It's on my (huge) list of games to cover!

[@hoobidibahbidibah8119]

Hmm... Is this a reupload? Could've sworn I had seen this before... Ah well, good excuse to give it a rewatch then!

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Nope, not a reupload, it’s fresh out of the oven.

[@hoobidibahbidibah8119]

@@ThatGuyGlen Ahh, my mistake. I had somehow mixed this up with another video on Tunic I had watched a while back. Incredible work as always!

[@ThatGuyGlen]

I figured so :D And thank you very much!

[@matthewanderson7824]

One of my favorite games

[@kenziemckenzie-bennett5399]

Amazing as always, thank you!

[@ThatGuyGlen]

My pleasure, glad to hear you liked it!

[@RedCroissantGames]

it is legitimately my dream to get my game in a video, great work as always :D

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Much appreciated, glad you enjoyed it! And I like your name!

[@RedCroissantGames]

@@ThatGuyGlen the oddly colored pastry

[@SunSailor]

Is this a re-upload? I feel, like having seen it before?

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Nope, not a reupload.

[@SunSailor]

@@ThatGuyGlen Strange. Could swear I watched the video months ago. Somebody must have made a very similar one. Anyway, enjoyed it, even if it felt like „again“…

[@maker7489]

MY WISH CAME TRUE

[@IShadyl]

Great material as always mr Glen, really appreciate your work!

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Thank you very much, happy to hear you enjoy the videos!

[@IShadyl]

@@ThatGuyGlen you're the goat!

[@MrNobodyX3]

This video is a 100% must watch

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Glad to hear you liked it!

[@rsbackyard]

I wish I had money to donate you!!

[@ThatGuyGlen]

No worries, I'm just happy that people enjoy the videos!

[@AnyEscape]

One K Likes! 🥳

[@Sus_Bak]

Tunic Tunic Tu Ta Ta Ta 🗣️🔥

[@evaander]

Please please do core keeper next 🙏

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll put it on my (huge) list of games to cover.

[@LetsPlayKeldeo]

Wait did you change your name ?

[@ThatGuyGlen]

No, pretty certain my profile name still says ThatGuyGlen.

[@LetsPlayKeldeo]

@@ThatGuyGlen Sorry I could have sworn you had a different name before, my bad. Awesome video as always tho

[@Beyond_The_Nexus]

Fantastic video!!!

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Much appreciated, glad you liked it!

[@2dosgames]

thanks Glen!! ♥

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My pleasure!

[@anzhel3268]

good video

[@ThatGuyGlen]

Thank you, glad you liked it!

[@Thanatology101]

Was absolutely enthralled with Tunic, right up until then end when I realized the puzzle I'd noticed woven through the game since start was one of those "community" puzzles that indie devs are now so fond of. Completely shattered my fixation. Haven't been back to the game since. There's a line between mystery, and creating wonder, and just being obtuse, and he took it so far over it boarded a ship, sailed out to the new world, and then sank after hitting a reef.