How useful is a Game Boy with a CRANK? [Playdate]

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[@kipters]

The actual dev tools (using Lua and/or C) are actually available to everyone and an emulator is included, the problem with that is that you actually need real hardware to test performance since the emulator runs on your PC, with faster CPU, memory and SSD

[@stride8845]

I'm surprised they weren't able to leverage a technology like Docker to test running it locally at limited specs to simulate a real device. Maybe they have though or planning to do that. Obviously still not the real thing, but would be closer

[@kipters]

@@stride8845 I don't think it's worth the effort, devs are going to get one anyways - also testing the crank with a mouse gets old fast :D

[@the_echoYT]

For any Playdate dev looking for playtesting/feedback, the community Discord server has a thread specifically for such requests. There's also work being done on new engines and dev tools specifically for Playdate.

[@WiredBand39]

Waiting to get my copy to start developing games for it for this reason

[@Zordiak]

@@kipters Uhh it's definitely worth the effort lol. You're talking about the lifeblood of a platform.

[@WigWoo1]

Honestly it'd be cooler if the crank was for charging. It be an awesome camping or long road trip device if the crank charged it

[@Servaas]

The ratio to power something like this with a crank like that is ridiculous.

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

It'd be awesome if these types of clueless takes didn't crop up every time like clockwork. No offense, the problem is not ONE person doing it. It just isn't viable, it's like kickstarting a water bottle that fills automatically from morning dew or something. Have some sense aobut how technology you use actually works, we pollute way too much to be this ignorant, in this language we type in. Killing some more chargeable batteries by fiddling with a crank recharge is not something we shold be looking into for our novelties. The whole notion shouldn't even enter a person's HEAD without immediately starting to wonder how it COULD be viable. Not this, "hurr, I've seen dynamos that look like this before, so my monkey brain hopes there was a dynamo like that here, too". And I do mean OUR universal monkey brains, as humans.

[@Link_Skywalker]

It sounds like the battery lasts pretty long on its own anyway, so maybe crank charging isn't really necessary for that camping trip or long road trip

[@codyjaymz]

That’s what I thought it was used for when it was first announced.

[@WigWoo1]

@@sboinkthelegday3892 what? I mean I have one of those USB power banks for charging your phones and shit It has a crank and solar panel on it because it's an emergency/camping one and it's awesome to be able to charge your phone with crank or solar. Especially when you're away from home for 12 hours and don't have an outlet nearby

[@DeLewrh]

The true Soulja Boy console

[@kingofthrones_2835]

He really does crank that

[@wesleyackerman8211]

finally someone agrees with me on this.

[@frds_skce]

Except it wasn't made by chinese developer and nowhere related to Soulja boy

[@yperokeanios]

nah man… many hours and much sweat were needed to create this work of art and engineering. don't compare it with a bootleg. this joke is off the mark…

[@yperokeanios]

it’s filled with innovation

[@Link_Skywalker]

YT interrupted the video with an ad break in the middle of Bob's sponsor segment. I got an ad during an ad. KZbin has truly gone mad with power.

[@Blakkid489]

The amount of effort and work put into each ad never ceases to amaze me.

[@blankenstein1649]

i preordered mine last week and won't be getting it until the beginning of next year. bummed for the wait, but glad to see how many people want this thing. there's so much potential with that dev kit available to any and everyone.

[@LessonsOnTheWeb]

Looks like a pretty cool device. With the black and white pixels, I think Undertale would be lit on this thing. Too bad it probably can't play it.

[@MartinBarreby]

Dude!! That vertical record player?! What, how, where, when!?!?! I really like that you put a yellow vinyl record in that just make the whole video pop together with the device you review. Bob, really nice. You do some really, nice stuff.

[@DiskCart]

This thing is so damn cool. Just the wait kills me! I hope they crank up the production! Crank it up .

[@WulffDen]

i get what you did there

[@anthonyrodriguez6979]

When did it release?

[@Snowl_Az]

Crank:-Exists* Joystick:Standing Here, i realise, you're just like me, trying to make history

[@jimmiejohnsson2272]

Happy to see the playdate get some love :) I think the community around this device is a real plus, everyone has been super kind, helpful and just made it a great experience. I've made a little game for it ("pop pop" on itch if anyone wanna try it out), and just the amount of care and appreciation in making it and seeing others playing it has made playdate like my favourite gaming device so far. Cheers for making a video covering it!

[@hotcupococoa]

I love the idea and gimmick for this. The crank is interesting and looks super fun. BUT For almost 200 bucks Its a BIG pass. I can't justify that unlit back screen and not being able to download whatever whenever.

[@realvikingboy]

Hear me out. Tamagotchi game utilizing the crank for fishing/ claw machine-esque mini games. Visit/ breed with friends over WiFi and Bluetooth on a perfect little form factor. Just like the good ol days.

[@WyvernDotRed]

3:15 Jup there is, it's called SSH. The service for it is installed and can be enabled in the Desktop mode by a few terminal commands. This allows for remotely installing FlatPaks, transferring and downloading files. But everything except transferring files has to be done in a terminal.

[@-aexc-]

you can also transfer files through terminal. imo using the terminal is much faster and better once you understand it

[@GreenFox1505]

"I talked about a Laptop the other day. Do you think the algorithm is going to tell you about that?" Dude, the video was a 10 minute ad. If people bailed, it wasn't the algorithm that scared them off.

[@lancelindlelee7256]

The thing would be good if it's just $50. At $180, $20 more and you get a Switch Lite. Massively overpriced for so little hardware.

[@lerje7563]

Yeah if you don’t mind the thumb sticks breaking after 2 months

[@thecrwster]

Not for you then

[@J05TI]

I was thinking the exact same. I'd definitely consider it for 50 dollars (euro, since I live in Holland), but 180 is way too much for me. I understand why though. There is a ton of features you won't find in any other console and I bet it was costly to come up with it.

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

Its for people who don't really play games. its for those that wear tight jeans, have handlebar mustaches and ironically wear 80s themed tshirts and ride the bus to work. it doesn't even have a light for the screen. its also for people who think the Evercade is stupid.

[@icanhazgoodgame3845]

@@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852 Its made to be playable while holding a kombucha

[@ParanoidThalyyMVS]

I know this isn't a console emulation video but, Bob, you always get comments on your retro emulation videos about people saying "Why don't you just get a PSP, Vita, DS or, 3DS?" and, I think it would be a neat idea to do a big video covering emulation on all those devices, it would be a good way to shut those who are constantly telling you to use one of those devices and, a really good source of information for the people who still think about getting one of those, even to this day.

[@danielcolonna4629]

He did do a 3DS one

[@thegodofwars01]

@@danielcolonna4629 No, that was a 3DS you doofus

[@mischiefthedegenerateratto7464]

@@thegodofwars01 there really wasn't any need for the added insult at the end mate

[@danielcolonna4629]

@@thegodofwars01 it says 3DS right there… it’s right next to the edited stamp

[@ParanoidThalyyMVS]

@@danielcolonna4629 Oh yeah! I remember that now that you mention it :p

[@user-wf2ek8hz8g]

there was a 3ds accessory for a fishing game that gave it a crank too

[@rhyleymaster]

3:00 you steamdeck can "sideload" apps. If your referring to remote installing, you can do that via steam for steam games, or you can remote through a terminal and do it that way. Why would you need that though? You can just switch to desktop and get whatever you want then add that to steam. Kind of a moot point.

[@azalith8645]

Love how even when you are being complimentary you still sound annoyed. Don't change.

[@zeththedarkmage]

Bob, my guy. If you want the perfect everyday carry that runs everything from NES to PS1. You gotta check out the Miyoo Mini. I absolutely love mine. Take it everywhere with me.

[@RGGeek]

Pretty sure he already has a Miyoo Mini. 🙂

[@benmannproductions3995]

problem is they are sold out everywhere and not available in some countries (germany)

[@itsjimmm]

I think this is one of the best reviews of this device on youtube

[@erijoelcrucel5009]

I own the Development Kit without having a Playdate and also I can test my own creations. I wish it could get better GB emulation.

[@EklinOfficial]

This thing looks so charming. I would love to have one RIGHT NOW! Don’t wanna wait ‘till 2023 :(

[@HL09]

I know, I'd buy it if I can have it soon but by 2023 there will probably be a new one announced or the community would be dead :/

[@chrislaws4785]

For an everyday carry retro console I'm actually just in the process of getting the Miyoo Mini V.2, which in my opinion is one of if not THE best portable retro emulator console. It plays everything from the NES to the PS1 and arcade games and comes with hundreds of games per system already on the SD card. It has every retro system you can think of and I cant wait to get mine.

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

i got one 3 weeks ago. its nice.

[@chrislaws4785]

@@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852 Is it as good as most people are saying? How's the battery life and screen on it?

[@victorvila1389]

I'd love a follow-up video. Have you changed your mind, has it been a disappointment?

[@SteelSkin667]

I don't own a Playdate, I don't even have one on preorder, but I've still been tinkering with the SDK. It's really straightforward and approachable, and I would recommend anyone who is even slightly curious about the thing to give it a go.

[@Shiro_Zark]

This is basically the BEST handheld, I don't care if it's a bootleg, It's amazing

[@piplup10203854]

Being able to side load games onto it like this makes a lot more appealing. I do wish it had some type of backlight cause I only get time to play games at night since I work a graveyard shift 😔 and the price is a bit high but I do like the idea of this a lot maybe a 2.0 iteration I’ll have to hop onto

[@justynh1321]

I had assumed this was an apocalypse console, with the crank being a charger, so you could charge it without power, and that would make it useful in power outages, long road trips, or yes, the apocalypse

[@agentsmithishere]

A backlit Playdate XL would be an insta-sell for me.

[@MikeLikesChannel]

I love it at $99, it's an *insult* at $179. -Gordon Gekko I'll be back when Gen2 has a backlight and a glass screen.

[@PGtheVRguy]

3:22 Yes, theres a way! (several) Personally I either just throw things on a USB stick from my pc then take it to my SteamDeck Or theres warpinator, which lets you just upload things between computers And maybe something similar to the Playdate.

[@191.]

2:02 "You see where I'm getting at?" Yeah, you're saying you enjoy other people's creations. 😆

[@pitwithabow-88]

well, I order it back in 2022. Still waiting for it and can’t wait to get it.

[@kiaza7679]

Looked cool, however no lighting is a deal breaker. I don't wanna deal with that again.

[@matthewnour97]

I just discovered this and it looks awesome. Root beer game looks adorable af. But for 180?? No way. I'd buy it for 50-100

[@ECHO2LIGHT]

I like the idea of one game per week to excitement after week

[@totalwarlock9498]

looks really cool, crank looks like fun but it seems to be a pain to hold, hope we get more cool stuff like this. it would be great to have something like with more games to take wherever

[@TABSfr]

"Time to crank some 90s with this console "

[@ryanmax-grappler8654]

I will buy it and play it for a day before I put it in my desk and make it a collection to show my grandkids later

[@WaCrex]

10:49 "There it goes, goodbye screen" xD

[@uhhh_adam]

I'd love to make something for this but jeez that's an expensive non-gameboy gameboy

[@danielgervasi9567]

I never knew the guys that made the OP-1 made this thing. Cool to learn more about it. Plus 5 bobs in an ad is simply the best.

[@Tsicky]

As someone who is very familiar with teenage engineering for all of their music products 200 bucks seems like a steal for their products

[@mrn00bly83]

something like this will never catch on with a 200$ price tag

[@s7121n9s]

I wonder if people who make Pico 8 games can port them onto this?

[@conicthehedgehog9166]

Probably no because the lack of color and power

[@s7121n9s]

@@conicthehedgehog9166 Well I know they design being in the kb range and are very small since they fit in a png. But if they are made without color could it work

[@luigimaster111]

I think the closest to what you mentioned for the steam deck is perhaps warpinator? As long as your on the same network you can transfer any files from your main rig to the Deck, though you'll still have to set up your applications in Steam after the fact

[@michaeldemers2716]

I'm still in love with the Gameboy family of systems but I love this because of the Game Jam attitude. Very cool.

[@matthewrease2376]

Backlight is only acceptable if we can disable it. I want to play this on the beach like my Gameboy!

[@shadow1w2]

Steam Deck needs a remote install function from the PC Steam Client yes, though "side loading" non steam games can be done easily enough from the Deck's desktop mode which we can stream to PC via Steam Link for kb/m. Playdate certainly needs to open up their devkit for everyone, the more games that are made the better. I was hoping to make some games for it even if I never own one but I guess I gotta give up on that idea.

[@bigman3274]

Well, the dev kit is free and has been available for around a month and a half.

[@aru_cha]

3:15 You can, and it's baked in! It's called SSH. You can also "sideload" files using SMB. These are basic Linux functionalities.

[@joe3924]

Does this thing remind anyone else of the pebble smartwatch? The design, the ui, and the general feel has that same sort of fun techie vibe that pebble had.

[@TXFDA]

You know, before I saw this video, I always thought this was a GameBoy/GBC emulation handheld with a crank that charged the battery. And honestly? I think that'd still be a neat thing to have, especially if it can do GBA too. It wouldn't be something everyone NEEDS to buy, but I could totally see it being useful for people that go camping a lot, or do a lot of hiking and things. A GameBoy that doesn't require batteries or having a charged power bank with you at all times. I mean, imagine camping out in the woods, you're up late, sitting in your tent. You go to play some GameBoy, and oops, the battery is low. Just crank it for a bit and start playing.

[@BrodyBaddis]

I need one. As a digital music box . A midi music player - with crank or no crank.

[@elmasheavy89]

A color Playdate would be awesome

[@Yulises]

If this device could play GameBoy games in real time, I would most certainly purchase one as an everyday carry option. I especially loved the size of the machine, perfect for the pocket!

[@TheDalisama]

I guess they'd have to map the start/select to one direction on the crank? I think the other button is for the system menu/lock screen.

[@KnowThyWeakness]

in my opinion its too expensive for what you're getting and the variety of games makes being an early adopter a little tough to be excited about. I would be willing to get one if it didnt take so long to produce and ship

[@I3uzzKillinton]

Every time I think I am gonna buy something like this I just think.... I have a smart phone. Its not worth it.

[@cawashka]

i can’t wait to get mine man, it’s been such a long wait

[@DiegoGonzalez-zv8jh]

I've had this lil guy since day one almost (was one of the first batch preorders). The lack of a lit screen does suck, but I really don't mind it as much as others do. The games releasing in pairs weekly can be crappy, especially on weeks where I didn't particularly like either game, but it helps me focus on what's out and in a way, challenges me to beat them in a week if they're story-based? What I will say is getting stuck in an RPG style game sucks big-time because there's really no guides for some of them, especially if they launched that day or recently. Everything works really well and smoothly, and as a graphic designer and coder I've been very tempted to try developing my own game using their software, but only time can tell.

[@anthonyrodriguez6979]

When did it release?

[@DiegoGonzalez-zv8jh]

@@anthonyrodriguez6979 I got mine around the end of April, start of May, and was in group 1 of the pre-orders.

[@anthonyrodriguez6979]

@@DiegoGonzalez-zv8jh cool thanks for the reply

[@lostsaves]

I remember the old fishing games

[@Moemoeourandiaries]

As someone who suffers from really severe migraines/ light sensitivity, I’m actually so happy to see a small emulator that uses an e-ink screen 😅

[@xenotiic8356]

I'll get one once people figure out how to mod in a backlight, or they produce a backlit version. I don't have good lighting often enough to make it worthwhile rn sadly.

[@trevlsteinberg5994]

Are we just not gonna discuss that Fucking sick record player?

[@EPrimeify]

When da giveaway?

[@AllieStrange]

Is it neat yeah, Is it worth $180 noooooo. I just bought a Miyoo Mini V2 for $75 and that will play everything up to playstation, and its cute and tiny and ya know has a backlight. Like if this was maybe $50 i think the novelty would be worth it.

[@gavingadway]

That intro was so nostalgic. Thank you 🙏🏻

[@jeezusbeezus]

Crazy that I followed T.E a week before this came out :0

[@klayzen8623]

Miyoo Mini is the way to go at this form factor IMO

[@AlexBaldwinFTW]

I get why, but it's way too expensive for its price. If this was like £60 I'd buy one without thinking about it and just keep it in my backpack. But it's like a premium service for the same kind of stuff as the TIC-80/Pico-8

[@ProjectDv2]

God, I really do want one of these, but...A HUNDRED EIGHTY GODDAMN DOLLARS. That's a really huge ask for this.

[@nozaihaus7053]

You pretty much summed up how I feel about the play date. Although it has made play plenty of non play forming games, and love them, even though I normally wouldn’t.

[@KyleGK01]

It would be pretty cool if they turned fidget toy stuff into a game console

[@quarteratom]

On linux devices (and on Android to some degree) you can just sync a folder up with your computer with Syncthing.

[@HighguyMcfly]

The only thing I can see this being good for is fishing games where you have to reel in the fish.

[@rabidrivas]

Garuda Os offers that sideloading funtionality that you talk about in linux. It is kind of a fan continuation of the original steam os. You should check it out. Hopefully they port their sideloading app to steam deck

[@bRIAN_69420]

Unpopular but I prefer it without a backlight since I love playing with my unmodded GBC and GBA. It is some what refreshing to have a non backlit device.

[@iKiwed]

I absolutely want this Playdate but the lack of light on backscreen is eeeeeh. Moreover, I use to compare it to the Pebble Smartwatch, so I hope they bring a new Playdate 2 with new improvements. (Maybe even a wearable cover to act like a watch O_O)

[@iplaydthis]

for $180 this is an easy "heelll no!"

[@Ratboycure]

Finally ordered...pre-ordered one wish I had done back when. Thanks

[@HistoryBluff137]

So I've finally ordered one. Looks so cool and I'm actually making some of my own games now

[@FlareGunDebate]

Yeah there's only about 20,000 in circulation. It's pretty fun. I'm want to find time to setup the SDK for VSCode and get some input data from the buttons and crank.

[@bigbossentertainment]

Trenchcoat Bob🤣

[@WorKoHolik84]

This World isn't the same after covid nowadays John does Wick Tech reviews

[@CeceliPS3]

I've been longing for this for like 2 years, but they still don't sell internationally.

[@Raphtor13]

I have wanted since I first heard about the Playdate but have not ordered yet.

[@icingbunstomatocardtom]

Edge Magazine Brought me here Stick like Fly on Gum with Classics

[@Taziod]

Lucas Pope (Papers Please, Obra Dinn etc) is making a game for it I bet it'll be really good. Not sure if that'll be worth $180 to play though.

[@WOLFZ012]

I've seen 2 reviews, and I love this thing.

[@frezieduh3457]

I totally thought it was to charge the device like a radio 🤣

[@aidenmcgeehan428]

My man's out here with a C70 and a nifty 50... Looks great tho... Not salty just jealous

[@vEYERULE]

You've just earned a new subscriber strictly off energy bro🙋🏾😂

[@arilegall2001]

This guy and penguinz0 look like brothers

[@Transmedal2]

I clicked to learn about how the crank works and all about the crank property's and you hardly explained it if at all lol

[@Tron08]

Kinda wish that screen was a more-square aspect ratio and could be bought separately and dropped into an OG Gameboy or Gameboy Pocket, that would be legit.

[@777Lateralus]

Oh this finally came out! Was interested in this like 4 years ago when it was announced lol

[@DE23]

This reminds me of flipnote studio in a way

[@damiengrief]

Been kinda hyped for this since it was announced. It's really cool to get a bunch of games in a season. Reminds me more of a toy than a console. Mine won't be coming until the end of the year though, I think. When did you order yours? But yeah, a big draw to me is the open nature of development, the community around it, and the fact that I can try my hand at making a small game, too.

[@jovi9918]

The price for it is ridiculous. They wasted so much money on the teenage engineering design fee so now to earn that cost back the stupid thing costs 150USD which is insane. Theres no reason why something this simple doesn't cost at most $40 USD. It has a nice open development environment but getting the console is so inaccessible

[@stride8845]

@@jovi9918 $40 is the less than the price of one game, and this comes with 24 games. $40 would never pay for the hardware and games unless you want game developers to be underpaid or hardware sold at a loss (which makes no sense at the moment because there's no way to make the cost back)

[@jovi9918]

@@stride8845 are you joking me? A switch lite on sale is $150. The playdate is supposed to be a very simple retro console but for some reason has a modern console price tag, it has a 240p black and white screen with NO back light. It has a dpad, two buttons, and the crank is nothing more than a dial. The body is plastic and a small amount of aluminum. The board needs next to no processing power to run the games it is designed for. You can put together a raspberry Pi zero with these specs for under $60 easy.

[@WulffDen]

Late July and I just got it last week 😬

[@damiengrief]

@@WulffDen Oof. That's like Steam Deck levels of waiting.

[@Musicmaddnes]

I just want the record player in the background

[@Kng__Wzrd]

Bob cranked that soldier boy for us