How Vienna is Changing Its Streets (And How Your City Can Too)

[@capslocked7274]

born and raised in vienna, its nice to see improvements but theyre really spread apart, one minute youre riding the nicest bike path possible the next youre squeezing in between trucks and praying the drivers check their rear view mirrors

[@celinepa8246]

It`s a very typical viennese approach (coming from a fellow Viennese). The idea is there, we just never seem to get it quite right.

[@tokarukora7272]

As somebody who goes to work by bike every day in vienna I can say: It is not perfect, but it improved very much over the last 20 years.

[@mindgames470]

just two months ago, I was run over by a car turning left, coming from behind me right in front of Schönbrunn. (we both had a green light, but the woman just ignored the orange blinking light, telling her to watch out for bikes driving straight... that was fun!)

[@mindgames470]

@@tokarukora7272 kommt wohl auf deinen bezirk an

[@freedomgoddess]

@@celinepa8246 don't beat yourself up over it. take it from an athenian who's been to vienna twice, and has a grandmother born and raised there. you guys are doing quite good for yourselves. i'm sure the issues that arise will be dealt with accordingly, just like you guys seem to always do.

[@mindgames470]

I live in Vienna. I think you have a slightly too optimistic opinion on this. just a few points: - one way streets are common in vienna since it's an old city with narrow roads. since people demand parking spaces for their cars, these streets are lined with wasted, fought over space for stationary cars. if there is enough space, you'll see signs telling you it's allowed to enter these streets the wrong way if you are on a bicycle. the problem is, most streetlights at crossroads don't recognize them, so you either break the law or get stuck. nothing has been done about it since I live here (15 years now) - vienna is a car dominated city. period. people get angry if you come for their cars and parking spaces. these few examples you showed have been cause of much discussion. they are not enough of them. - vianna has a problem with the so-called mobility mix. that's the mix of transportation methods. public transport for the most part is excellent. but everything else is a huge mess! bicycle infra structure is NOT separated from car and foot traffic, causing cars to drive by way too closely on heavy traffic roads (your only separation there is a white painted line) or "smartphone zombies" which are pedestrians who walk on bicycle lanes staring at their phones without a care in the words. as if that wasn't enough, now we have scooters in the mix as well. the rentable ones have littered the narrow sidewalks for years. also: lately, there is an uptick in cargo bikes. problem is those are allowed if they are not wider than 1 meter, and the official width of a one-way bike lane is also 1 meter. (see the problem there) - overall, it's pretty laughable how long it takes to build anything other than car infra structure here. there is a yearly report on that, and I remember writing a paper two years ago on the topic and the report celebrated 2(!!!) kilometers of newly build bike lanes in the entire city. *slowclap* - "walkable city" is a nice term. 15min city sounds even better. but believe me, it depends on the district you are in here. "walking" can easily include the use of some healthy, nimble legs here. good luck if you need a cane, a walker, or, god forbid, a wheelchair. if you happen to be blind, you are basically fucked here. (sorry for my language, but it's true, and I feel very strongly about it) - public spaces IF reclaimed from cars, tend to get converted into playgrounds more often than quiet places for ALL Viennese. (yes, people would frown if you linger around a playground without accompanying a child. no one would call the cops on you, this isn't NY, but you won't make any friends.) not everyone wants to be around children in their free time, believe it or not. too bad! what this city needs is less private cars, less parking spaces, more green space (but hey, we can't even keep the trees alive that already grow here.... there is another lie the public office wants to tell you. vienna is the greenest city blabla... nope. it's not! more than 50% of planted trees replaced those that died) ......... bicycle highways that are ACTUALLY connected and serviced in the winter (oh yes, our streets get cleared regularly, but where do you think that plowed snow ends up? yap, the bike lane), traffic lines that prioritize pedestrians and bikes over cars where and when it makes sense! ........... I could go on for hours

[@muinteoirdior]

I agree with so much of what yo wrote. Wien is one of the most dangerous biking cities in Europe. It's insane to suddenly have to "act like a car" and drive in the Taxi/Bus lane. Most cities would AVOID ever merging bikes with busses or taxis. It's so dangerous and quite stupid. Meanwhile cars are aggressively overtaking you from the left. Separated bicycle lanes need to be colourised and prioritised for safety and common sense. Not to mention having to avoiding slick tram tracks or accidentally getting a wheel stuck when crossing over them. Enough with the children playzones! Wien has more than enough already. More bike lanes, quaint public gardens, proper dogzones, etc. C'mon Wien, If you want to be respected as a capital city on the global scale then you need to start acting like it. Leaning into the classical music isn't cutting it anymore. One thing I might disagree about, the Viennese LOOOOVE calling the police on people. Culturally the grumpy Viennese are cowards when it comes to confrontation and opt to just call the police or at least threaten. In NYC no one is calling the police. It's a way bigger city with way more crime. While there is more police presence in NYC... you'd be hard pressed to get a cop to show up for someone hanging out in a playzone. They'd just assume you were some Karen calling on someone relaxing on a city bench.

[@kensukefan47]

@@mindgames470 >excellent public transport Hurra, scho' wieder 8 Minuten auf die U4 warten.

[@mindgames470]

@@kensukefan47 ich wohn auch direkt an der U4, aber immerhin bauen sie. schau dir mal NY an, wo einfach nichts investiert wird bis es zu spät ist. ich hab kein auto, aber bisher bin ich noch überall in Wien öffentlich hingekommen.

[@Chrezzee]

Very true!

[@David-fp1fx]

@@muinteoirdior That's bullshit and you'd know it if you cycled in vienna for more than a few days. Marked bike tracks are rare and usually only found on roads with lower frequency or lesser importance. If you're expected to "act like a car", it's definitely not on protected bus & bike lanes! Instead, this is only ever necessary on "Radroute" or roads that are not officially part of the bike network (which to be fair are quite many). Tram tracks are wide and thus not really dangerous as compared to many other cities featuring narrow gauge tram tracks. I fail to understand how you could ever manage to get a wheel stuck _crossing_ a track...

[@vicn17]

I live in Vienna for 2 years and yes they are making progress, the new bike line at praterstrasse and the streets you've shown here are a good example. There are places however that are still a nightmare for cyclists and pedestrians. The ringstrasse for example has allot of bike traffic but the bike lane is awful, you have to go from one side to the other for no reason, bikes share it with pedestrians, at one point you need to cross the bends of a tramtrack 3 times in a couple of meters. This is clearly a bike lane built decades ago without giving it much thought. The majority of places in Vienna is very car centric still, every street is lined with parked cars, a couple years ago parking on the street was still free! And the mentality of drivers is very much that they own the road, even in 30 zones they drive up to 50 because the roads are so wide and give them that space. At intersections on the Gurtel pedestrians and cyclist need to go from one concrete island to an other waiting sooo long for the lights to turn green, like at Westbhanhof. These projects are an improvement in some parts of some districts but I don't know if they will fix the bigger picture. They need to work on changing the mindset of the drivers. There is no real need to have a car in Vienna yet many people do... Because they get to be so dominant in the city

[@streetscaping]

Yeah, a lot remains to be done, and I wanted to cover more things in the video. However, I didn't get much footage while I was there.

[@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx]

Your experience sounds worse than mine here in the UK. My home town in north-east England has relatively narrow roads built centuries ago (apart from an inner ring road that was never completed due to protests in the 1970s) and cycling is not terrible - although many cyclists complain, I'm 58 and have yet to have an accident.

[@Sourcefedisnewsporn]

The amount of parking is insane and I bet there are plans to build a car park. Even student dorms have offers for parking. They are students and even for work can take the god damn train, built adjacent to the dorm.

[@vincent5551]

There are also still many places where traffic noise is horrendous as well. Living along Hütteldorferstraße I just cannot have my windows open. But it gets so hot here during the summer I absolutely have to open them during the night so my room can cool down from the 30+C INSIDE temperature. Every time my ear plugs fall out during the night and I get woken up at 6am by honking and racing cars, I just think "how the hell is this the most livable city!?". I feel like a lot of the improvements talked about in the video are only done on small side streets while the larger streets are completely ignored.

[@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx]

@@vincent5551 That's a different insight into living in Vienna. Here in my home town in the north east of England, I am thankful for the relatively low levels of traffic even in the town centre. The hottest my flat gets is around 22C in the summer and it is always cooler at night. I live in a cul-de-sac with very little traffic so noise is minimal. I was under the mistaken impression that Vienna provides a model. Clearly it doesn't. You have my sympathy.

[@AntonsPcelins]

I was in Vienna last year and was amazed at how walkable it was, how accessible the transport is, as well as to see the many bike lanes implemented. Riga could learn a lot.

[@fairphoneuser9009]

Let me guess: you're from the US. Walkable cities are quite common in Europe.

[@Yandhilover]

@@fairphoneuser9009Riga is not in the US

[@friendly-x8p]

@@Yandhilover yes an american wouldn't mention Riga

[@darris1939]

@@fairphoneuser9009is education illegal in Europe? Do you not know where Riga is? Even though it’s on your continent? Lmao, also there are a lot of walkable US cities and a lot of unwalkable EU cities, travel more before you generalize

[@CUBETechie]

Vienna was walkable a long time ago but it got some changes on Systems which worked perfect for the last few decades

[@knappp]

I’ve lived in Vienna for 8 years now. The changes are really impressive, especially focus on more green on the streets (Vienna has maaany parks but this is different). In the changing climate and temperatures between 30 and 36 Celcius half of the summer, it is very important as trees do not only look good but most importantly help to cool down the streets.

[@thefridge9278]

Born and raised in Vienna, I think a MUCH BETTER example of this is Amsterdam or Kopenhagen! The general public of Austria and the politicians they vote into powerful positions really need to take a look at those cities when it comes to great roads for bicycles (Kopenhagen) and critically reducing cars in the city (Amsterdam). We live in a time where climate change creates urban heat islands, making cities the hottest the have every been, and increasing the number of hospitalization due to heat. Yet, our chancellor in a speech famously said "Austria is a car-country" and not only doing absolutely nothing for making Vienna more green, cool and CO2-neutral, but also actively preventing it! And sure the new bike lanes are super awesome, but whats still missing regardless is A LOT of greenery and shade! Being a pedestrian absolutely sucks during summer for 2-3 years now and its only getting worse if these issues are not addressed.

[@toniderdon]

I need to visit Vienna in the future, they are moving in the right direction for sure.

[@exerra_xyz]

It is beautiful! Pro tip: Make sure to purchase tickets a few hours in advance for Schönbrunn Palace if you go there as they have slots for when you can come in (e.g. when you're buying a ticket you put down when you are going to go in the palace and if you don't buy it in advance you can be stuck waiting a few hours until the first available slot that you selected when you bought the ticket). Learnt it the hard way...

[@zaneassefa7711]

Yes but actually no. You would think that when you can get mostly everywhere by public transit and by walking only a few amount of people would want to have a car. But no. It would head in the right direction if people here wouldn't be so car focused. You hear some of the dumbest reasons for needing a car. Examples: Impressing a potential Partner. Saving 30min everyday (which only works if you're not in trafic meaning if less people use cars). Feeling more free (not controllable gas prizes, trafic that you can't control, car damages where you need a third party to help you out and thats what people call freedom). And so on. It really could be better. In the end the goverment is only a figure voted by the people, but they are doing the best they can (80% of the time). But it is pretty good here.

[@thefridge9278]

We absolutely are moving in a RIGHT direction! We even have nazis in parliament!

[@niceone99]

I wish more cities would focus on people over cars. And a friendly reminder: cities aren't loud, cars are loud!

[@ffffffffff2762]

I do wonder who drives those nasty cars?

[@Kirschesaftmann]

Vienna is slowly waking up and finally getting its shit together, but I wouldnt paint it so rosily. Even getting traffic calming or pedestrian areas in front of schools is difficult in Vienna, and requires massive effort and political pressure from parents and local residents. In quite a few instances, the city is the one blocking the meaningful positive changes residents are fighting for. There are various cases, where the city does workshops and survey with residents, where it is crystal clear that residents overwhelmingly support massive traffic calming measures, more greenery and improves bike infrastructure, yet the city ignores and actively fights against this or only very delivers watered down plans. Also some of the district mayors are quite hostile to such projects, in one case actively antagonizing and attacking residents in the media. Truly excellent leading urbanism I would say is happening in Paris or in Dutch cities like Utrecht and Amsterdam. Some context for Argentinierstraße (the red street), it is a street that was never particularly important for car traffic, but had one of Vienna's older and most important bike lanes, being the main route between the center and the south of the city, also passing by the main train station. It was also very narrow and parts of it have a bit of an incline. It was finally aknowledged after many years of pressure that this bike path was unaccepteble, and so it was decided to create a Dutch style cylce street, hence the red pavement. It definately sets a new standard for bike infrastructure in Vienna, but there are aspects of it, that were watered down, and at the moment it unfortunately doesnt seem that that the project will be replicated elsewhere in the city, which is a real shame.

[@streetscaping]

Every city has its problems. I am from Riga, where pretty much nothing is being done to limit cars and the examples I showed would be rocket science back home. I recommend watching my video about bad planning in Riga and you'll see just how well Vienna is actually doing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWibiGqMrqyfadU

[@sagichnicht6748]

I do agree, still, I would like to add that major transformation projects have clearly accelerated in Vienna, not just in the central districts but also there. The important change is I think that also red districts are starting to wake up and not preventing everything and anything. There are still some holdouts and some districts are mentally still in the car stone age but those are much fewer than they used to. Ironically enough, some of the worse examples with still a lot of terribly car centric road layouts are in the 1st district in the streets that have not been fully pedestrianized, especially in the Gründerzeit areas along the ring. This has to do with the traditionally black district being even more rabidly against anything that removes even a single parking spot. The shared space in the Herrengasse had to be realized by local businesses as only than the ÖVP did not dare to shoot it down as that would have been openly anti-business and a PR nightmare for a supposedly pro-business party.

[@_mortiam]

Only the city and district mayors are blocking these plans? I don't think that's completely accurate. When plans of making bicycle lanes are published, it rarely comes without complains about demolishing parking space.

[@sagichnicht6748]

@@_mortiam No, not only but in many cases they are indeed the biggest obstacle. Some people always complain about everything but they usually are not able to block it by themselves alone. District mayors often have that power.

[@muinteoirdior]

I had a friend recently visit and they commented that Wien is a big parking lot. Which is a big shame because it can also be quite charming, but the cars truly junk the city up. And the car culture here is very insane. People even pull up on the pavement here to park like they live in a village, or I've seen on many occasion people park in a zebra walk. Like WHAT!?!?. I'm always like: Gurl, this is a city! Try to act accordingly. And don't get me started on how most everyone always parallel parks. SMH. Pull your car in nose first, and let traffic pass! This isn't a village! Parallel parking only stops all the cars behind you. You can easily even your car out once you've pulled behind the parked car with the nose of your car, and you aren't impeading the flow of traffic. I mean, it can be real 'Village-CIty" mentalityheer.

[@mdhazeldine]

Well done for covering Vienna. While I've not been (yet, although I have visited Salzburg), I keep hearing good things about what they're doing over there, yet there isn't much KZbin content about it. Nice to see something that's not just about Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Oulu or North America all the time.

[@iamjoestafford]

I visited last year and was pleasantly surprised - it was a lovely city to spend time in and cycle around.

[@LearnCompositionOnline]

Vienna is definitely a city you don’t need car in the urban area. You go everywhere in 20 minutes.

[@Baatezu77]

Not correct as we now have 2 Million people and we are growing and growing, there is no way you can go everywhere within 20 minutes. Not with a car, nor bike nor public transport

[@LearnCompositionOnline]

@@Baatezu77 with car won’t be easier in the same area

[@Baatezu77]

@@LearnCompositionOnline that is correct, a car in the inner districts is not necessary. In the outskirts like 23,21,22,11 depends on where you work. But it doesn´t matter you can not go everywhere within 20 mins or 15 mins as i said no matter if with bike or public transport

[@Semperkras]

Living in Vienna for 5 years and yes it changes for the better all the time but the pace is rather slow. All in all it is nice and peaceful city to live in with family. It has big potential for further improvements so I hope it goes that direction. Hopefully they will look up to the Netherlands and a loot of great solutions there. Since I lived in NL for 5 years I found that some mix of Amsterdam and Vienna would be truly ideal city (at least that is my impression ).

[@wolfgang-franzkranek6146]

You can't compare fe. Amsterdam with Vienna. They have completely different topograpic conditions. Aber manche glauben ja auch an warme Eislutscher.

[@Marcyl13x]

Looking forward to visit Vienna, been planning it for quite a while. Only a year left!!

[@RedJo7]

Stolzer Wiener aus Wieden ❤ich bin so aufgeregt auf die neue Argentienerstrasse!!

[@marierohler2899]

Lived in Vienna for the past 12 years. When I first moved here, I wasn't allowed at all to ride a bike. The streets were crowded with trams, busses and cars and one minute you're on a nice outlined bike trail and before you know it, it abruptly ends. Doesn't help that most bike lanes are just carelessly painted onto the street without any modification to the distance from cars etc. While there have been tremendous improvements made and I now feel more confident riding my bike through the city, it is still not my first choice of transportation. However, previous to Vienna, I have lived in Hamburg and I feel like this city deserves way more hype when it comes to bike lanes. They are not only integrated into the pedestrian walkway, they also have a different color than the pedestrian way and more often than not multiple lanes! I would love to see a video about Hamburg!

[@StefanH]

Vienna is amazing for driving, walking and cycling. Public transport is so cheap, convenient and ever present. When I drive into the city I just park somewhere close to a U Bahn station and use public transport from there. Cars are great to travel vast distances in the city and transporting stuff and people, but you're really encouraged to use public transport. I think nowadays I actually pay more money for parking than my car after I moved to electric, which is amazingly efficient in cities and vienna has an awesome charge network

[@MatekGala]

I wouldn't say public transport is cheap. Also, how are you parking nearby an U Bahn station if you have to have a parking permit for that district that you only get when you live there?

[@smashmaster0077]

That's a pretty good take. It is not a bicycle haven, but it is improving, and you can get pretty much anywhere just using bike lanes. Driving is not too bad either, so if you live in the city, enjoying the comforts of a car is not a nightmare. And walkable we do not need to discuss, it's great in that regard.

[@greek9244]

I visited yesterday after going to Budapest and Bratislava and they have really improved bike lanes and active travel as a whole ❤❤

[@TheFlyingMooseCA]

Very high quality video, well explained, and I learnt something :)

[@Commentator541]

Nice video in concept, but the reality is: The only thing working in Vienna is public transport, waste removal and water supply and this is what makes it relatively efficent to live in. The “one way for cars, two way for bikes” streets and bike paths make no sense, and if you follow these you will either pedal in circles or spend an extra hour no matter where you go. The city has little to no greenery, and what little green spaces there are, are limited to a block, but then you have 10 blocka with not a single tree. Recently the city started removong parking spots and replacing them with small bushes. At least plant a tree there!

[@celinepa8246]

Not to mention the wasted potential of Seestadt. There would have been plenty of space for trees and parks but instead they opted for a filthy lake surrounded by concrete. In all fairness it should be mentioned that you can reach greener areas in no time by public transportation from most of the inner districts. I am in 1040, it takes me 15 minutes to the city center and 25 to the vineyards.

[@kensukefan47]

@@celinepa8246 1040 💀💀💀

[@michalsoldat8548]

The city has little to no greenery- thats funny 😅 this City is so green like no other and around Vienna there more forests than the amazonas alone!

[@Toll99725]

similar messures can also be seen in Stuttgart. infact here in Germany we also have something called a "Fahradautobahn" (tbh I think it should be called just "Fahradbahn"). it is a route for cyclists (and also pedestrians) to go from one city to another, so basically it is a byciclehighway.

[@MichaelSmith-px1ev]

Melbourne you can learn a lot from this. The CBD should be just PT, electronic micro transportation (e-bikes and scooters) and walking. With more hybrid working spaces existing office space should become reused apartment living.

[@theG4ILIT]

The red bicycle road was exactly my road to work. and the changes they've made (or making right now) are even better than they look! ;) It is an absolutely stunning idea and it works perfectly perfectly!!!

[@addysaw]

I live in Vienna and strongly dislike the assumption that "everyone should just bike". Some of us need to drive for a bunch of reasons. It's archaic to force people to depend on biking and other non-feasible solutions for many many people

[@streetscaping]

Nobody is forcing anybody to cycle. It is about giving people a viable alternative to driving.

[@CoIdplayer]

Born and raised in Vienna. Super proud of my city. Love it here :) However, it is not a 15min city ;) But 30min is about right.

[@walterpleyer261]

Vienna used to be a very car centric city until not that long ago. When Innere Mariahilfer Straße (or as it is commonly called "MaHü"" was converted into partly pedestrian zone and partly mixed use (pedestrian, bikes and cars in the same space) that car protagonists were fighting tooth and nail to prevent this. The main reason why all this is possible is the extensive public transport system. Once you've lived in Vienna for a while it's hard to imagine to live in a place without a dense public transport system like for example Los Angeles No subway, no tram , no bus? Hard to imagine.

[@streetscaping]

The public transport system in Vienna is definitely one of the best in the world

[@sagichnicht6748]

LA does actually have subways and light rail, the network is even growing at one of the fastest rates in the US, if not the fastest. Still, those light rail lines should actually be subways, parts of the network are slowed down substantially by the absolute priority for car traffic by law even if it is to the detriment of the many for the benefit of the few. The big issue are frequencies on bus lines and travel times as the metropolitan area is so large. Nonetheless, LA is actually doable by transit, unlike many if not most cities in the US outside of the east coast.

[@samanli-tw3id]

MaHü had also trams, I wish they weren’t removed

[@jay-9967]

​@streetscaping Viennese here: Our public transit system is a lot, but definitely not good. Our Underground network is short, with some lines being served well below the actual demand, leading to overcrowding. Also, some lines are kind of "all time construction sites". There is even an underground line which has been partly closed for years for "construction work". The trams are slow, infrequent and their tracks are often in bad condition. Additionally, not even all trams offer level boarding and even less do offer air conditioning... The only good thing is that it's cheap. And to be honest: I'm not too sure of that's the best thing or if (especially the annual fares) are too cheap. For the roads: As some already said, the network by far doesn't cover the whole city or anything near that. Also the lack of trees and green space is a pain in the back in the summer. They probably should have put up some trees instead of adding even more concrete than there already is.

[@Patschenkino]

Man, you should've seen these shopping streets back in the day. Mariahilfer-Strasse and Meidlinger-Hauptstrasse used to be the places to be, ya know? High-end stores, fancy boutiques, the works. Now? It's like a ghost town meets sketchy central. All the good businesses have bailed or are hanging on by a thread. That renovation? Total disaster. Turned these spots into concrete wastelands. Nobody with cash to burn bothers going there anymore. Instead, you've got all sorts of shady characters hanging around. It's wild how fast these areas went from ritzy to run-down. Makes you wonder what the city planners were thinking, right?

[@tim333y7]

Unfortunately most of the city is not like how you showed it, only a few pockets of the city looks like that and the majority of the city is very car centrict without bikelanes and with very little street greenery

[@streetscaping]

Yeah true, I wanted to show the positives although in hindsight I should have mentioned that most of the city is indeed quite car centric and a lot has to be done

[@TomaszJakubKusienicki]

i have been living in Vienna for 4 years now and i love the city so much! It is very walkable and i like how most of the car traffic is pushed to specific streets, although i think the cycling infrastructure could be better. In many places it seems like bike paths were an afterthought.

[@muinteoirdior]

Exactly. Wien is one of the most dangerous biking cities in Europe. It's insane to suddenly have to "act like a car" and drive in the Taxi/Bus lane. Most cities would AVOID ever merging bikes with busses or taxis. It's so dangerous and quite stupid. Meanwhile cars are aggressively overtaking you from the left. Separated bicycle lanes need to be colourised and prioritised for safety and common sense. Not to mention having to avoiding slick tram tracks or accidentally getting a wheel stuck when crossing over them. Enough with the children playzones! Wien has more than enough already. More bike lanes, quaint public gardens, proper dogzones, etc. C'mon Wien, If you want to be respected as a capital city on the global scale then you need to start acting like it. Leaning into the classical music isn't cutting it anymore.

[@TomaszJakubKusienicki]

@@muinteoirdior Yeah, Burggasse is like this and it is definitely unpleasant to be there on the bike. I am quite fast so I can handle it, but I can't imagine driving there with children.

[@rockerlalee]

If they could somehow remove the Indian newspaper people whose unofficial meeting point is under our window and every single night 2:30-4:00 AM they're entertaining us with shouting, singing and playing music... It's actually in the street adjacent to this newly built bike-street so allegedly not a bad neighbourhood. Anyways, Vienna is still way better than most European big cities, public transport is fine, but if you have to use a car to get around in the city, my condolences...

[@Dr_Sauerkraut]

Not a big fan. I mean, I get it, but less parking spaces is just bad for business since we rely on commercial vehicles and can't just switch to bikes. It is already bad enough, sometime we have to park on the sidewalk to get heavy deliveries and installations done, which isn't an optimal solution. Most of the time we have to park very far away, which is just not efficient, drastically increasing work time, therefore increasing cost. Removing more parking spaces is going to make it even more difficult for small businesses relying on cars to survive (this half-year alone 1237 businesses in Vienna went bankrupt), let alone make a profit.

[@mikkyo3509]

Not true, we have some good examples wirh the 1st district and the Mariahilfer Street, where delivery trucks can be between 0600 and 1030.

[@dariusweisz7440]

born and raised in Vienna and living here for 25 years: imo Berlin is more bicycle friendly than Vienna... Vienna is doing great and its nice to have greener streets but they are far from a bicycle friendly city but I still enjoy living here

[@MrInsdor]

Having lived here for close to two years I'm really disappointed in the most liveable city in the world (though I can imagine that living in other metropolises is even worse due to their near 100% private apartment market) it's not nearly as walkable as other cities I'm familiar with f.e. Leipzig, Antwerp, Lisbon, Brno though tbf all of them have half a million people opposed to Viennas 2 mill BUT I feel like Vienna is making better progress than most cities and could also become a great place wrt infrastructure and urban planning like it is for housing, childcare, healthcare already

[@opaqueentity]

Great information about limiting through traffic but I don't see mention of how you deal with large numbers of cars that are already in an area. If people are living or working somewhere where are they supposed to go if you take away parking by creating the better cyclepaths etc? Say you have 50 cars in a residential area, where do they go? A carpark further out? Maybe on the outskirts in some sort of a park and ride system? Or just tough luck that's not the council/governments responsibility? It's an issue that is in my hometown of Cambridge, UK. You can make streets better but cars and traffic are already there.

[@AnirudhSrivatsa]

@streetscaping Could you please create more content centered on the developing world such as India, SE Asia, Middle East and Africa? Many viewers of your channel (who I presume would also be familiar with Not Just Bikes) would already know the problems with North American-style stroads and the benefits of European urban planning. However, much of the developing world is currently at a crossroads, and the choices they make in the next 5-10 years can make a massive difference to the built environment the majority of the world's population is going to live in for the next several decades. Content on urbanism in the developing world is scarce, and would be a great niche for channels such as yourself to fill.

[@uasolo]

please correct typo in the title: "it's " -> "its"

[@streetscaping]

Thanks, sometimes very obvious things go unnoticed

[@Lucas_Ficz]

Vienna is my dream city. Hope I can move there in the next years. If anyone knows of any vacancies for an architect, let me know haha

[@andylee7862]

Because Vienna was not fuking destroyed and rebuilt by antihumanist modern architects 😂

[@sagichnicht6748]

I think roughly 10-20% of the city was destroyed in WWII, including some entire streets in the 1st district. The state opera was almost completely destroyed except for the exterior walls, the cathedral burned out (after the fighting though). Indeed, Vienna was one of the major European cities where artillery fighting was taking place within the heart of the city itself. After the war there were even plans of tearing down the Opera replacing it with a parking deck and bulldozing a highway right to it. Luckily that never happened, due to resistance and possibly funds. There are a number of "urban development" sins from the post war era though, a number of them, have been undone again in the meanwhile.

[@amadeosendiulo2137]

That's the future. Not Neom flying taxis.

[@linesided]

More parks and bike paths or more cars? I know which I'll vote for...

[@МихаилАмплеев-ф9л]

The biggest problem with Vienna is that everyone is talking mostly about center or something around center like 2-3 kilometers from it, but if you will go to 10th district ; 23 district ; 22 district and many others you will not see the same Vienna as everyone knows from photos and videos Vienna is a car dominant city. It will looks completely different when you are going somewhere by car and when you have to drive by public transport around 30 - 40 minutes. Public transport is good, no doubts. But you have to face on a daily basis a lot of people ( especially during summer ) there and after couple rides during day you don't want to enter a public transport anymore + for me specially a migration thing for Vienna is a big problem So ye, it's a nice city but it has a lot of disadvantages ( if you live here as a migrant ) if you were born and raised here then of course it will be different. So don't forget to show a city from different perspectives, not only from a good one

[@mudza92]

Vienna have the best and most advanced network of public transportation in europe, and is one of the best in the world. And you still have so much to complain about. Have you traveled anywhere? Have you seen other cityes, have you seen the disasters of cityes all over europe where its almost impossible to go to work with bike at all or God forbid to think about walking to work!! When you see the rest of the world you will know that Vienna is the closest thing to paradise that can be on this earth. Ive seen the best, and the worst. Vienna is in the top and you should be gratefull.

[@МихаилАмплеев-ф9л]

@@mudza92 I have been my friend more than in 30 countries so I know a lot about other cities transportation systems. I am expressing my personal opinion and experience Happy that you feel in this environment comfortable and enjoy it Have a lovely week ahead

[@emrebey2244]

I live in Austria-NÖ-NK for 7 months but I studied in Vienna every day and I know Vienna well. Well, actually Vienna doesn't require that because especially Vienna has great railroad network with their participiants like Straßenbahn, S-Bahn, U-Bahn, RegionalExpresses (REX), RailJets (RJ) already services under ÖBB great. You have to only 1km or less walk everywhere. Okey outsides of Vienna of course not 1km or less walking area, people have to walk much more but also have very good bus services and always on time! For example my resident location which is called as Neunkirchen really needs bicycle roads and it has already. So I found it unnecessary

[@majorfallacy5926]

Progress in Vienna is moving at snails pace, but it's better than regression i guess.

[@botanist3257]

Great video!

[@hiblihobli1623]

As a Viennese here I am fully supporting the notion to build infrastructure that only serves a miniscule fraction Of people (Cyclists) for only a few months of the years when its dry and warm (again Cyclists) instead of focusing on normal pedestrians and public transportation. There was a massive reconstruction of the cycle lane at the Wagramer Straße going inside the city by taking Away a lane for cars. Oh wonder its not more used than the old cycle lane. Yet previous Bus and Tram stops have been reduced in Order to fit bike lanes there as can be Seen at Wagramer Straße leading into Kagraner Platz which again only accomodates a small fraction of people. The focus on the cycle is imo the wrong one. Converting people from using their car, public transport or just Walking to the bike is difficult and often unfruitful. Likewise, its wrong to implicitly try to push people towards that as it ultimately just reduces their Freedom of choice.

[@streetscaping]

The only way to reduce traffic is viable alternatives to driving. Cycling in dense cities plays a huge part. And people cycle in the rain too, you should visit the Netherlands.

[@Kaiserschmarren]

The city should connect the big cyle-highways (Vorgartenstraße, Donaukanal, Wienfluss, Argentinierstraße) by extending the Wienfluss cycle way. While cyle *highways* are great, they still have to be connected properly.

[@wolfgang-franzkranek6146]

At the Wienfluss cycle "highway" there are more pedestrians and people wo walk their dogs on the move then bikes.

[@Valentin-oc5nh]

sry for eueopean standards its not high density and its certainly not a 15min city. if u don‘t live in the very center 30-50min trips are the rule. compared to paris (paris paris) the same amount of people live in 4 times the space in vienna. but yes, the city is well developing, just don‘t like painting wrong pictures.

[@transitguy]

There are some positive developments in Vienna in recent years, though it's quite slow and rather erratic instead of systematic. Some districts, especially the central ones, are much better than others. Which also has to do with politics on the district level. So Vienna is a bit of a mixed bag in that respect, but it's certainly worth to highlight the positive examples, like you did in your video.

[@rodrigomoura171]

The improvements made in the city are pretty good, but far from perfect; hence the Argentinierstraße, depicted a few times in the video: before you had a two way bike lane, now they took them away as well as the parking places, and now is a one way street where bikes have to share their way with the cars (?)

[@streetscaping]

I looked up on google streetview how it was before, it was a very narrow bike lane on brick. Now there is a lot of space with smooth asphalt. Also, traffic flows there seemed to be very low, so having separate infrastructure isn't necessary. In the Netherlands similar developments can be seen, even high-quality bike lanes can be removed if there are too many cyclists and a bike street is created.

[@Andreas-et1et]

It's just one way for cars. For bikes it's still 2-way. Source: I cycle on that road to work every day

[@WhiterockFTP]

@@streetscapingthe whole thing is inspired by the Netherlands. They had people from a Netherlands planning office come to meet people from the Viennese planning office. Everything concerning Argentinierstr. is extremely thought out, I listened to a 2hr talk at TU Wien specifically on the topic of Argentinierstr.

[@walkaboutarts]

wow so many clips of the neighborhood i live in :)

[@johnveerkamp1501]

GOED GEDAAN !!

[@jjk9o9]

Thank you

[@CarViewer]

I really hope other cities don't take the Vienna way. The bycicle example shows how terible the idea in Vienna is. Last time I had a meeting at one end of the bycicle lane as I drive electric and had a meeting afterwards outside of vienna and needed the charge i planed to charge close by. of course the charger was occupied but no problem the next charging station is only 500m away so perfect to plug in and be on time for my meeting. I thought it would be as easy as just driving up the road and pluging in I had to stop at the road and puh cannot get there. As I am not that familiar with the backstreets in the 4th district and all the one way street and blocked street points I put the charging station in as I assumed i will just use the road next to it to get to the charging station. Oh boy I was wrong. The navigation told me to get to the station 500m away I have to make a D-Tour out of the district to the main road and then entering back into the district at afternoon traffic the navigation predicted 10 min of drive for 500m in a straight line. So I just parked the car there. Imagine you are a local shop owner installation guy sales agent or whatever and you have clients on both ends of that street? This idea makes it harder to move within a district than moving in between districts. Most of the traffic that is rerouted through other parts of the city is increasing the traffic there and adding to pollution and congestion. The time lost for people actually working is imense I am not talking about 9-5 office workers who don't need the car but the once actually producing reparing delivering goods. And no you are not going to deliver a bathtube or a sink with a bike nobody will pay for that. Arguing that the streets are quiet is not true at all. Cars driving over the speedbumps generate more noise than if they would pass at 50 km/h that is why already some speedbumps are being build back due to backlash from the people living in these streets. Also the polution from combustion cars increases because they are most effficient between 50km/h and 80 km/h Reducing the speed in front of schools is great but there is a downside to it that I see daily many parrents and their children underestimate the risks in traffic. And what is also happening is that lots of the food deliverer use their tuned e-Bikes to rush through these streets as there is lower car traffic the accidents caused by them with pedestrians increase. It is also mentioned that drivers should increase their attention. And that we reduce the curbs. Perfect now the e-scooters can shoot faster through and endanger pedestrians on the sidewalk. I am expiriencing that every day when I walk with my kids. As someone living in Vienna the "we hate cars movement" makes it very hard to live in even as a pedestrian. I walk my kids to the kindergarden every day and it takes 10 minutes not because we are walking slow but because we have to wait at the traffic lights for 5 minutes. And no it is not because of the bad cars the reason is that the tramway is prioritieced and there are 2 greenlight cycles so the tramway can drive past the cars. This ultimately leaves to me as a pedestrian having to stand at the traffic lights and wait for imaginary tramways to pass that don't even drive that frequently. The municipality of Vienna loves to emphasize on the playground project but doesn't show the economic losses that accure through that. If you live in a building there moving in and out is going to cost you more as the moving services will have to carry stuff over a greater distance. If you are disabled and would need mobility services to pick you up. Good luck with that. What about Police / Firedepartments / etc. all of the All of what they are doing sounds good on paper but is going to ruin the liveablity of the city in the long run as public transportation and byciles cannot replace cars/trucks. They should stop with these 15 Min prisons nonsens and look after topics they can really improve safety and liveability with. Resume the Parkingspot law hence force construction companies to actually build garages when they develop new buildings. And then accordingly reduce parking spaces but reducing parking spaces in areas where it is already hard to get a parking spot just to force people to give up on the car to immobilize them is not the solution.

[@HenryFerlauto]

Regarding the concrete barriers: I believe the concept is correct but the execution is hideous. Some large planters would have the same desired effect but bring more beauty.

[@streetscaping]

Greenery is always better. However, it is more expensive and it has to be maintained

[@NZVideoMaker]

Some nice simple changes.

[@streetscaping]

Crazy how big of an impact a few concrete blocks can make that cost nothing

[@adamLE05401]

First of all, this looks nice on a video. But the priority should be put on a public transport development. All these videos are showing bike lanes and how this is the future. No, it's NOT unless you live in the south Spain or similar climate. We have something called winter season here in central europe. You are not gonna commute daily on bicycle in the winter unless you hate yourself. Public transport network is what needs to be developed as a priority in any big city.

[@streetscaping]

Look up the mobility pyramid. Active modes of transportation should be prioritized.

[@adamLE05401]

@@streetscaping daily commuting to work is impossible by walking or cycling. Public transport is the only solution here.

[@prosodiac]

Vienna is so livable because of left politics in certain fields: majority of buildings are state owned so the rents don’t sky rocket like everywhere else, great public transportation (great subway, tram and bus network), heavily funded and thus affordable for many people, strict modal filters and high parking fees for car drivers, plus a great pension system with fairly high pensions because everyone pays into the system, not only certain groups. There you go, right politics are often neoliberal so think twice about the coming election.

[@autman3661]

Livable City? I live exactly in this street where the street is blocked. Show me one person in the neighbor hood, who likes them. They where once put there to prevent prostitution.

[@FelixvonMontfort]

No changes are made in a day. Vienna does its best now and thats very cool. And its a fact you never need a car in vienna. And thats not new.

[@grafity1749]

Ja wobei besonders in den Randgebieten ist ein Auto öfters Mal doppelt bis dreimal so schnell wie die Öffis und vor allem im Winter ist das Rad für die Mehrheit keine Alternative

[@regnignirg]

Vienna may be one of the most livable cities in the world, but that is certainly not due to the design of its streets. The streets have been built for cars for centuries and this major mistake has not really been corrected since then. When it comes to bike lanes in particular, Vienna is really, really poorly positioned. The public transport, on the other hand, is really good.

[@amysteriousviewer3772]

I would be interested what city you'd be comparing this to. I can't think of many other cities with similar bike infrastructure. It's not perfect of course but it's definitely superior to many other cities (at least in the central districts).

[@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx]

Here in the UK, the far right and its media outlets (Murdoch's Sun, the Express etc.) prefer that we live in car-dominated, heavily polluted cities in which everything needs a long car journey through traffic-clogged streets to get to. This looks amazing!

[@sqrtof81]

Don't get fooled, a lot of other places in Austria are terribly designed too, and only getting worse. Even Vienna had plans for a new city highway (right through a nature reserve, albeit tunneled) until very very recently, facing a lot of backlash. Vienna's bicycle infrastructure on the main roads is also lackluster and quite poorly designed - while the roads are up to 6 lanes wide. Cars still have priority sadly.

[@Sustainable_Engineer]

@@sqrtof81 but is there this political divide like in the Anglosphere where cars are seen as pro-freedom by the right-wing and 15 minute cities are seen as some sort of conspiracy?

[@sqrtof81]

@@Sustainable_Engineer Well, kind of, yes. Cars are generally seen as freedom (though thankfully transport in general terms to be seen as freedom, so alternative transport at least gets a chance, albeit at a much lower priority). We don't have the whole 15-minute cities conspiracy crap, but I think that's mostly because that concept hasn't really arrived here in general. Most stores are built in the middle of nowhere still.

[@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx]

@@sqrtof81 Fair enough. Thanks for the information that shows the car lobby's influence gets everywhere.

[@sqrtof81]

@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx Yeah, it's really tough - things are changing, but very very slowly. Let's hope the world gets a move on.

[@alimc1867]

How bad is public infrastructure in other countries that Austria's public transport is viewed as exceptional? Also the people in Vienna pretty much ruin anything enjoyable about it. I really like the places in the city but frankly the people here ruin any enjoyment.

[@2big2fail47]

lol

[@DieseNuesse]

15 min cities look cool but are in fact not cool at all.

[@francescorossi7582]

Ah, now I see why it takes Ubers 15 minutes to get to my pick up spot

[@Commentator541]

Let us add another thing. Vienna used to have a 1hour free, ne t hour paid public bicycles. This eas replaced during the pandemic with a private company that charges an arm and a leg to rent a bike! Monopoly at it’s finest!

[@strokedmyshit]

I mean as a frequent user of the service, it is a good service and the new bikes are much more comfortable than the former citybikes. The price is absurd but as a student it’s pretty cool and useful to have all prices for the service for 50% off.

[@Andreas-et1et]

An arm and a leg? You pay 35ct per half hour and get a 50% discount if you have the annual public transport ticket (which most ppl living in Vienna have). Very affordable if you ask me

[@hueydhuey]

compared to Velib in Paris I find it very humane here. but that‘s Paris

[@bowloflinguinepasta4404]

@@Andreas-et1et I think its 75ct per half hour, but I could be wrong.

[@christianauswien]

I live in Vienna and this video is an absolute joke!

[@modestoney1577]

gusch, heisl

[@christianp117]

@@modestoney1577 Oasch

[@oneplatin]

Its actually fucking bullshit, only a small fraction of Viennese can claim to be able to "bike to work" not everyone works in an office inside the city or lives 3km away from the university. Sure if you have the luck that your home and workplace are somewhere in the vicinity of a subway station then its relatively quick. But this differs very much if thats not the case and you have to use mixed transportation. In that case you're better off with a car. Also let's not forget that not everyone is living alone and can use the "luxury of walking or biking wherever they need to go" yet the city gov behaves like everyone could do this.

[@andulasis6283]

The worst part about in Vienna is its people

[@wolfgang-franzkranek6146]

Gusch!

[@DR-wr8nk]

it might be nice to watch, but for people living in Vienna, it’s actually not compelling

[@faustwatsche]

Vienna is great if you are a tourist, urbanist, retiree or refugee. Ordinary people or families are fleeing Vienna since several years for various reasons. Just turn up the austrian news about the daily stabbings and shootings in Vienna. Unheard fo 20 years ago.

[@mikkyo3509]

Oh a far right voter. Please stay in NÖ and dont come to vienna.

[@faustwatsche]

@@mikkyo3509 I am not from Pröllistan. I integrate many of the lovely, motivated and high skilled people that flee vienna in my company. I help them relocate, they love it. I make alot of money from them with their contacts and skills. You sound like someone making 4k brutto lol

[@lppixi5152]

Welp there are people who like the change and people who dont. Ask a person who has to go to his job at the morning and will spend most of his travel time in a traffic jam. For my opinion, all options should be adressed, not only bikes. I dont mind people driving with bikes, as long as I can stay in my car and have the option to drive anywhere. And for what i saw, noone drives on the bike lanes in the winter, when it rains, when its night or even hot and sunny. Not to mention snowy and windy days. Then theyre empty. Focus on all people, not only the one who has to drive 15 mins with a bike to be at their school or workplace.

[@streetscaping]

Every km cycled creates society an economic benefit whereas every km driven creates a loss. Cars create several negative externalities with every km travelled. Driving in a dense city is not a right but a privilege.

[@jack2453]

Like a lot of 'urbanists' this video misses the fact that it is about more than the physical fabric. Vienna is livable because it has lots of social housing and neighborhoods have a good mix of income groups.

[@streetscaping]

I would love to make a more in-depth video about the city, however, I didn't get enough footage and this is a short video about physical changes in the infrastructure

[@Flowxing]

I live in vienna and hate it.

[@astra1360]

cringe take

[@michalsoldat8548]

cars are and will be. everyone forget about it. I have lived in Vienna for 35 years. for years as a car driver we have been harassed. they take away our parking spaces and make life difficult. every argument is used to take away parking spaces. trees, greenery, bikes, scooters, even though Vienna is one of the greenest cities in Europe.

[@streetscaping]

It is not about harassing anyone, it is about giving people a viable alternative to driving. Also, in a dense city parking spaces are a premium and not a right. Public space (streets) is funded by everybody regardless if they own or don't own a car.

[@michalsoldat8548]

@@streetscapingcity is a place mostly for famillys I would say! Because without familys there is nothing! You agree with me? Life is easier with a car. And even if we all have this damn electric-cars ( which personaly I hate) we have to park them somewhere. People forget that electric cars mostly take the same space like normal cars. We cannot park our electric cars in our pockets. But, you know the EU is going straight into wrong direction. No matter what they do they do it wrong. It is frustrating. I have a good example of own destruction. As we all know the German industry is almost 99% depented by the Automotive industry. We also know that China is tearing our asses apart with their cheap labour and timely investments. And out of nowhere the main sponsor of the European Football Championship in Germany is BYD (Build Your Dreams), Chinese electric car manufacturer. For me it is more than thoughtless and negligent. Thats what EU ( Germany) is known for. Doing wrong decisions is their main thing. Unfortunately, this applies to all situations. 😢

[@viennatramway]

It's one prestige project among the usual car centric street design. Concerning propaganda, Vienna is as good as Kopenhagen.

[@streetscaping]

I disagree. Copenhagen, by far, has a better network of bike lanes.

[@viennatramway]

@@streetscaping yes it has, but I was disappointed - it still remains car centric, the Netherlands are completely different and much better in the way they build roads.

[@celinepa8246]

@@viennatramway Yes, the Netherlands are on another level. They perfected cycling. Lived there for a few years and loved it. The downside is that I now hate biking anywhere else on the planet.

[@modestoney1577]

WTF? Why is everyone hating on cars? A city with 2 million people NEEDS cars and car traffic

[@Yuki-Hai]

1st) Vienna is not a 15 minute city by any capacity. 2nd) one second you are driving on a nice road, the other its a fucking suicidal hole 3rd) Vienna gets this random award called "most liveable" but it is not liveable by any means. Rent hikes, affordability, public transport etc. are things of the past. 4th) Good public transport - Yes we do have actually good public transport in means of "you can hop on a tram or ubahn on one part and get out on the other in 30-45 minutes" but it isnt great by any means. Way too often its delayed, too full, intervalls being fucked by missing busses/trams/trains 5th) Most bicycle drivers are mentally insane. They are a danger to their own safety and others safety. They think they are jesus christ themselves and drive wherever they think they can now without regards for safety of others and their life. 6th) Talahons and immigration being a big time problem now - look at Reumanplatz and what the heck is happening there. There is so much more why shouldnt take vienna as an example.. it honestly makes me crazy to see people compare their cities to us at this point..

[@campingmantv8094]

This is a perfect example of how to return to unmotorized vehicles like in ancient times. The car helped to develop our standard of living and politics force people to use bikes again. I have a bakery shop 500m next to my place when I want to go there by car it is a 3.7 km ride. It is time to change the politics and not the politicians change the people. And yes most parking was 3 years ago free and this was good and healthy for the economy.

[@streetscaping]

Studies have shown that pedestrians and cyclists spend more than drivers btw. And this is not about banning cars, it's about giving people viable alternatives to driving because if everybody chooses to drive in a dense city nobody will get anywhere.

[@aperzinger]

Hello from Vienna. It is really not that great. Look at the Triester Straße 4-6 lanes for cars, non for bikes. Its the total HORROR. One good looking bike road in the inner city, doesn't transform a whole city.... Vienna is controlled by cars.

[@JeroenHuijsinga]

I wonder how the city deals with required need for car capacity in the form of street width and parking space. Bikes and public transport are not a solution for all citizens. Many stick to their cars and will protest when the city proposes changes that limit car use. Policies like these are not just about creating a nice design but about building support and acceptance. That requires different skills. Vienna builds on one of the best public transport systems in the world which it has started to build in the 1960's. Many cities lack that level of service which is essential to start off on the path of reducing the number of cars. Basically, what you do is remodeling the whole city. The scope of such an operation can hardly be underestimated. The sad part is that it's also impossible to create a nearly car-free city. As I pointed out above: many citizens will stick to their cars not impressed by policies because politicians don't understand what motivates them. At the end of the day, these citizens will simply move out of the city, thus taking the problem with them. Meanwhile, real estate investors will not approve any office or apartment building without an underground parking, for example, which leads to even more cars if this building replaces one without a parking (which often is the case).

[@streetscaping]

Japan has the best approach, if you don't have a private place to store your private car you can't buy one. Simple, and effective, so whenever long-term public parking spots get removed it shouldn't be of concern to you. However, such a policy most likely won't be implemented in Europe which is why underground parking garages are actually a good thing. It is better to store cars in a private place that the drivers pay for rather than the street (public place) that everybody pays for.

[@adalbert9451]

@@streetscaping In Germany (I don't know about the rest of Europe) the trend actually goes towards overground parking garages. They might take extra land, but planners and citizens start to prefer the benefits that come with it. They aren't invasive to the ground, need less energy/CO2 to build and have a long term perspective to be re-used for housing, offices, commerical usage etc. when car numbers go down.

[@streetscaping]

@@adalbert9451 Underground parking garages only make economic sense in very dense and prime locations so most often overground parking is the way to go

[@markuskitzinger6374]

there are still roads everywhere and if you really need your car you still will be able to park it somewhere close.

[@backroomserklärt]

🎉

[@KdevanBuuren-ym2om]

As somebody living in Amsterdam who lived in Vienna for two months, boy let me tell you there's still a long way ahead for Vienna to come anywhere close to "human-friendly" or "pedestrian-friendly".

[@streetscaping]

I mean, Amsterdam is the golden standard. Getting there takes time

[@samanli-tw3id]

Amsterdam’s canals make it hard to make a car-friendly city. Unless you fill the canals.

[@modestoney1577]

Amsterdam has half of the inhabitants of Vienna and a totally different structure with all it`s canals.

[@busysaru888]

Vienna is improving, but it's far from being where it should be. Some streets could be improved by elevating the bikeways above the traffic, especially above the ring road to me among the trees to avoid all lights and traffic altogether. This and separate elevated roundabouts, tunnels and bridges would go far in improving things.

[@marcusott2973]

Sorry but that is a willy wonka idea,

[@samanli-tw3id]

Ugly concrete viaducts for bikes?

[@evoi9715]

I grew up in Vienna. It was a great time. Today it became very dangerous.

[@tobi6891]

Thema verfehlt

[@LiquidRelief]

Vienna is still a car city. Their only traffic free street (Mariahilferstrasse) isn't actually traffic free (with 24/7 access allowance for Taxis / Deliveries and People who live there). The city center is also not car free and ffs it''s 2024, in Belgium we think of you as a medieval town then. To praise Vienna as an example for all cities, is very wrong. It will stay a car minded city, since the Austrians are very car minded. It will not change in the next 20 years. Taking the Argentinierstrasse as a thumbnail and as an example of the bike overturn, is not such a good idea. First of all it's not finished. Second of all, the lane is not going to be bikes only. And if my thoughts are correct, it's gonna be more dangerous for Bikers then it was before. Before we were on a small seperate bike path. Now half of them will be going in to the direction of the cars, on a mixed road, with no space. I'm very afraid that this will lead to a lot of traffic aggression from cars and trucks, definitly taking into account Viennese -driver mentality. I think it's a shit example. The townhall put it up as massive propaganda and told everybody: look we are becoming the Netherlands. Well in the Netherlands that road would have been completly cut off from any +four wheel powered vehicles.

[@shahanshahalam4860]

It’s becoming a nightmare with traffic jams, vehicles belching exhaust into the air that is breathed in by pedestrians and bicyclists. Bicyclists are flouting all traffic rules, running red lights, cutting off pedestrians, cutting across traffic > expect more injuries and fatalities, unfortunately.

[@streetscaping]

90% of road fatalities are caused by motor vehicles.

[@grafity1749]

Wiener hier!

[@HandiTransport]

Blocking access with concrete blocks is cheap but it is not particularly sensible. You need emergency access so it's far better to have removable access barriers. These also have the advantage of not becoming places to park in front of. An opening gate or lifting bollard is not that much more expensive but in an emergency it makes a huge difference. Similarly road bumps can damage emergency vehicles and if you ever go over speed bumps feeling terrible in the back of an ambulance you quickly change your mind about their utility. Road chicanes reduce speed temporarily but people learn the chicanes so can drive faster. A way around this is using parking bays to create changing corners (and drivers are more careful about hitting other vehicles than kerbs) but this is ugly and still leaves parking issues. Generally to get nice livable areas you need to spend money to remake the roads, like making them greener or with more use than just parking and driving. You also need really good public transport as without a sensible car free option you just make life difficult for those who can't rely on public transport.

[@streetscaping]

A lifting bollard is significantly more expensive, and that means doing an actual construction project rather than literally putting a pre-made block down. The Netherlands has countless dead-end streets and speed bumps, and the emergency vehicles do their job just fine.

[@WienerVL]

Easiest way....BANN cars out of the city! There is no need for them!

[@tokarukora7272]

Sometimes there is a need for them, so they should not be banned completely. BUT it should absolutely not be faster or more convenient to go by car than by bus or bike. If you have to move furniture from one flat to another or bring your sick baby to the doctor, you can use a car. But you should not use it to go to school or work in a city.

[@undozan4180]

i've lived in vienna my whole life. Sometimes it feels like a utopia, but thinking that this is the worlds most liveable city saddens me. i travelled to other cities around the world and, from the ones i saw, vienna is definitely the most well organised, but its not the city that sparks the most joy. To me, seeing those red streets infuriates me, they spend millions of euros to REMOVE the old, bike exclusive lane, take out the whole street and put in a new red one in its place, just so now the bikes have to share the lane with cars (and its maybe a meter wider, i dont really notice it when a car comes my way). We are getting a lot of good hearted projects that are chosen and executed so badly that i would prefer the money spent on something else. I believe vienna is doing this to appear like the city many people think they want to live in, a green, proactive, all inclusive city. They prioritize their image over their actual impact and it fuels my rage to change the world. Vienna might seem like the poster child of modern cities, but even if all others follow its footsteps, we will not have a good world in the next 100 years

[@Jonas-Seiler]

man könnte ruhig mal so ne Schwanzvergleich Kultur zwischen Bürgermeistern fördern im Bezug auf wie lebbar und ästhetisch die eigene Stadt ist

[@Takoma420]

Sorry i dont own a city

[@ErickHumboldt]

if I understand correctly it's a city made for young people who are able to ride bikes, the old ones are put in retirement homes

[@Flex2212]

Quatsch. Wiener Öffis sind mit das Beste und weitaus besser entwickelt als die Fahrradwege.

[@christianp117]

@@Flex2212 Nein mit den wilden Jihadisten will eigentlich keiner mehr fahren .

[@janb758]

not really many pay very cheap rent due to old, unalterable contracts. biking can still be a nightmare tho. public transport is really good. I need 15 minutes from the city center to the Donau-island, where you can swim for free all summer. a lot of old people there too. I think Vienna has its problems but it's still very good..

[@streetscaping]

Cycling infrastructure is not just for the young and healthy. Elderly people with mobility scooters can use it as well.

[@streetscaping]

And elderly people can cycle as well, visit the Netherlands

[@132hooligan]

Im sick of this most "livable" city narrative. Is it really the most livable city if the taylor swift concert gets cancelled due to islamic terrorism? very livable. Things have been going downhill in Vienna for the last 10 years, and it is not mentioned anywhere.

[@autman3661]

Die sind gut im narrativ spinnen 😁

[@raphaelnira3218]

Im Spinnen sind wir alle gut, nur manche glauben halt sie haben die Weisheit mit Löffeln gfressen. Das Platten Label, dass keinen blassen Schimmer von Wien hat, haben paranoid die Konzerte abgesagt. Diese früher war alles besser Attitüde zeigt, dass ihr genauso einer dummen Narative nach rennt.

[@derfdeswoasein]

Sure, the attempted terrorist attack was nowhere to find in the media, and "nobody" talks about it because its not mentioned anywhere... But of course Hooligans spread love... 😂 Listen: Vienna is a great place to live, even though fashists of different ethics try to spread hate, weather its native Austrian/catholic racists or fashists from Serbia, Croatia, Turkey, Iran or Russia. You seem to be one of these guys, if a video about traffic infrastructure triggers your hate or fear...

[@132hooligan]

@@derfdeswoasein Ach halts maul, nur weil ich keinen radikalen Islam möchte bin ich kein faschist.

[@konterkariert_konterkariert]

How can you compare the extremist motivation of a handful of people to a literal city which is doing so much for its people every day

[@LearnCompositionOnline]

Please show ALL areas of Vienna… Not only the juice.

[@Meiseside]

The next big stepp is to build bycicle freeway to get to place far away or on the other side of the city and more conections to lower Austria (land around the city).

[@annakoller5382]

Just cancel all the parking places so that people ride kilometers to find a parking space and pollute the city more than before.

[@tobi6891]

Just don't drive a car, for God's sake. It is possible in Vienna, even in the "worst" areas! Source: I come from the Northern dead end of Vienna and I can't, don't and don't want to drive and still (more than just) survive. All these "but I need a car in Vienna" are just pathetic excuses.

[@annaits4272]

the green government of Vienna is stupid. spending unnecessary amounts of money on intact streets. fewer and fewer parking spaces, which were already in short supply

[@lionvader]

What? The Greens haven't been in the Viennese government for four Years now... And they only hold 3 district Leaders out of 23.

[@jonasromo4017]

This accent is so annoying

[@ERENIRONTV]

Cars driver’s nightmare. I am born and raised in Vienna and hate this ‘improvements’. The people are forced to use public transportation without air conditioning.

[@tobi6891]

Eine Runde Mitleid 😂

[@Patschenkino]

As a native Viennese, I've noticed a significant decline in the quality of life over the past 25 years. Today, much of the city feels quite foreign. Public transportation has become increasingly expensive, and for drivers, going into the city feels daunting. Sadly, Vienna seems to be in a quiet decline under misguided leadership.

[@erwinmeisel2545]

What are you talking about? Public transport stayed at a low price for many years now. And reducing the car traffic is the hole point if you want to cool down the city and make it more attractive for pedestrians and kids.

[@harryinmotion]

Born and raised in Vienna, sounds all good on paper, but they cause more issues than they solve with those "projects".

[@kensukefan47]

Aw hell naw, Urbanoids fell for the Viennatrap again 😭😭😭

[@tokarukora7272]

What is a Viennatrap?

[@kensukefan47]

@@tokarukora7272 praising Vienna for every stupid shit it does, despite the fact that the city continuesly is getting worse

[@Patschenkino]

🤝🏻 Exactly!

[@aturchomicz821]

"The Urbanist community is looking back fondly at the 60 long year regime of OB Micheal Ludwig" 😭

[@modestoney1577]

LOL. Vienna is one of the most beautiful and liveable cities in the world.