How We Are Proving the Diesel-Electric Retrofit Kits Work

[@SGTMinguez]

I can't believe this project doesn't have a tidal wave of followers. Truly the most interesting, most realistic way to reduce emissions and without decimating infrastructure unprepared for full electrification.

[@TheMainLead]

Easy to suppress if youre a powerful lobby

[@Jacobtheunwise]

Probably because most people aren't interested in the project but the final results

[@termiterasin]

really weird you think major auto manufacturers would stand behind this project... oh wait they can't sell more trucks with a retrofit kit!

[@toniradolovic]

@SGTMinguez Yeah no it's not...this comment just proves you are brainwashed like them, it takes 1500 galons of fuel for just one of those gigantic macines in just one day to mine all those things needed for makint the electric car battery, and it take 2 week's to mine minerals just to make one battery....and after that how much more electicity need's to be produced to power all these electric car bullshit

[@Francis_Castiglione]

People are soured to the EV market. It makes sense.

[@user-wm9pj2xj7z]

I love to see chase taking the blame for the incorrect axle considering there was tons of variables that could’ve made it wrong there, really shows good character. If Edison and the team all act like this they will succeed

[@henkoosterhof5947]

@@user-wm9pj2xj7z i think that is the canadian way. Dont sue, dont nag, but how can we solve this. Also the company were it was assembled. Lets make spacers and solve 2 things. Lets give a tumbs up for these guys who makes miracles and future happen.

[@BenReese]

Incorrect specs is the #1 complaint I've heard about ordering custom-designed parts from China. Followed closely by quality control, so I hope that doesn't bite Edison Motors / Deboss in the butt. Way to overcome it with custom stand-offs though!

[@MrGerd]

I like that you are developing this live on air with us. You don't force the tests to get results so your product seems reasonable, you are open to suggestions and I suppose you read comments to have open dialogue. That's nice. Keep up the great work!

[@asbjrnantonsen325]

As an engineer I like the scientific approach. Cool to see all the technology and learning more about it 👍 thanks for sharing and for putting in the work!

[@athoutx]

As a field worker, who shows engineers how to do their job, I agree.

[@jimurrata6785]

Interesting that these people think they can get around the laws of thermodynamics. This isn't a freight train, or anything even close.

[@FoolOfATuque]

@@jimurrata6785I think you misunderstood the reasoning for all this. It’s about creating efficiencies that can’t exist with a traditional ICE vehicle. An internal combustion engine is typically efficient at a certain RPM. Variable RPMs like when you’re rowing through gears is quite inefficient. So they shoot for that RPM when designing the generator which maximizes efficiency. So the engine in the final truck will run at a constant rpm. Which lowers fuel consumption. That’s benefit 1. In a traditional ICE vehicle you have brake pads that turn the energy you put into getting the vehicle moving into heat. Hybrids have electric motors on their axles. A motor that is spun by the wheels will generate electricity which recovers some of the energy instead of losing it to heat and also creates drag slowing the car. This is called regenerative braking. That’s benefit two. When you’re running a traditional ICE engine you also idle at stop lights which is very inefficient. This design will eliminate that since it has electric heat and AC. It’s not about defying the laws of thermodynamics. It’s about making a system more efficient.

[@jimurrata6785]

@@FoolOfATuque I understand that. It still doesn't change the idea of turning motion into electricity and electricity into motion. There's absolutely no way that this can improve on traditional ICE found in loco's

[@jaykanngiesser3454]

Watching this series intently. Have a kit reserved and a gen 3 to put it in.

[@RYTHMICRIOT]

Did they require a deposit?

[@jaykanngiesser3454]

@@RYTHMICRIOT Yes. $250 Cdn, but that was in initial offering. Not sure current situation. Go to their website to reserve.

[@dwil9743]

@@jaykanngiesser3454you have to pay full kit amount which is half a new pickup. 50k is crazy to spend on a kit. I was going to do the same for my 04 Cummins but I read that and there’s no way I can pay 50k even though it’s amazing

[@JohnnyD1993]

​@@dwil9743most importantly, that kit *DOES NOT* have any form of warranty if you don't use one of their licensed installers.

[@dwil9743]

@@JohnnyD1993 damn this I did not know. Thank you

[@Sah-o5m]

Deboss and Edison Greetings from SLC Utah. I agree 100% with your approach. I see the vision and plan and budget. Don't let the negative Nellie's derail people who are actually getting stuff done. You're doing hard work. 20% of people will disagree with everything we do all the time anyway. For what it's worth, I'm with you. Chin up. You guys got this :) I hope one day to see a version of Black Beauty, aka The Road Locomotive, aka the Ram-Recharger hauling a heavy trailer up a mountain while passing big rigs like they're standing still AND getting better fuel economy at the same time. The ultimate hot shot rig. Carry on! God speed.

[@seaglider844]

This is the most practical means of using the advantages of electric powered vehicles where the amount of energy using batteries alone won't do. Towing large loads, where recharging infrastructure isn't available, in more extreme climates (cold)....etc. If this kind of vehicle was available I'd be buying it today. Great work guys!

[@glacius331]

sadly we're waiting for the ramcharger to actually hit the market to see it in the real world, and the info on that is slim to none up to this point

[@E_L12]

This is hands down, the coolest, most indepth project going on KZbin. Love it.

[@AceEverett]

I'm keeping my 7.3 in my OBS forever, but it's sounding pretty enticing to be able to add electric axles to increase mpg and power. Can't wait to see this project finished.

[@anthonyshaw9383]

I love my 1996 7.3 but another one with this setup would be great.

[@caddys0n22s]

This is the most interesting and informative build I've seen in a while. As a diesel enthusiast and as an IT technologist, I've always wondered why we cant use diesel/Elec like trains do. I really hope this catches on and becomes the most popular route for vehicle tech in all auto manufacturers.

[@alpha2gproject783]

I used to always wonder about this when I was a kid when Prius and other hybrids were all the rage. You guys are putting in the work and it's amazing how much more thorough you seem to be than the big manufacturers and how great it is that you're willing to attempt this. Manufacturers are after that dollar. They really couldn't care about emissions unless there was good money to be made at someone else's expense. If this could be sold as a lot for trucks I bet you could sell a bunch because I know for one that there's plenty of people out there who have good trucks they've had for a long time they don't want to replace with new who are worried that the EPA branch of the SS will make vehicles we currently own illegal due to emissions when it's really about control.

[@spacebike420]

This is my favorite build on youtube!

[@ianmckay1780]

Rich, what you have achieved so far is brilliant. As far as the wrong spec axles are concerned, so what, if you don't try, you never know! Someone is going to try something off the wall, so if you can say "that don't work", then you demystify the problems for others. This is what I love about this whole build programme, integrity throughout! Of course there will be problems, that is the point of testing, but there guys show it warts 'n all. I love this crew as a whole! WELL DONE Deboss/Edison Motors everyone involved!!!!!!!!!! From UK.

[@JustSterugglin]

Real people making real things. You are the driving force of a healthy society. Great work fellas.

[@rangerismine]

That electric front axle brings the beef! Looks similar to a kingpin Dana 60, but the “C” s are bolt on and a little thicker. It would be right at home under a F450 brush truck with 40” tires.

[@gotthumbs2235]

Looking forward to the investment notification. I have an 03 dodge Cummins (160,000 miles) so the idea of using the existing engine is intriguing, but the 2.8 would be lighter, should be more efficient, plus the resale price of the 5.9l could help towards the kit. Loving this collaboration on the kits.

[@Hard_Right]

just have to say Arron kills it with ur video intros every single project

[@cdoublejj]

i'm truly impressed yall wee able to drop everything and do all this, this is just the cuts of what we do see, as in to think of all the work behind the scenes that went in to this. nice work guys!

[@toyomatt84]

I love this series. I'm hoping all this effort showcases MASSIVE improvements in both fuel economy and drivability (I kind of expect it to, but I can add hope on top of just expectation).

[@Christopherbever]

This is as important a moment in humanity as when the wright brothers took flight 😂 I cannot wait to see the next episode so please hurry guys haha

[@JSCB-365]

I'm 10 seconds into this video. Deboss has done some cool engine swaps. Even tells you what's wrong with the engine he's using for the swap takes the time to fix that. Always Always takes the time to get the wiring right. He's as much a swap and diesel swap guy as he is a tuner or hot rodder. These new diesel hybrids may be a thing here. I'd do one if my sponsorship allows

[@Toefoo100]

I have a 2000 ford ranger I'd love to see that on one. Probably massively overkill, but that's the fun part

[@jamessmith7691]

I got hooked on your videos back when you were working on farm tractors. Slowly it graduated into pickup trucks ect.and now these tests on your Dodge . Yup still have interest for this ole guy. Great shows , keepem coming.

[@tobybirtwhistle430]

In Australia we have recently seen a large uptake in larger american pickups. This is the only one I could actually be interested in.... Great initiative.

[@renosgarage7451]

Good, big trucks are great

[@Happyfacehotwheels]

I like the little trucks you guys use. Our trucks are too big for no reason. A full size truck from 20 years ago looks like a toy when compared to the modern compact pickup.

[@tobybirtwhistle430]

@@Happyfacehotwheels I drive a 2lt Volkswagen Amarok. Don't believe it's available in the US. Best ute I've ever owned. Cheap to run. Tows 3 tonne with ease. Can park it in any undercover garage......

[@Happyfacehotwheels]

@@tobybirtwhistle430 I never heard of them so I looked it up on KZbin. They look like a useful little truck. Towing 3 ton is impressive as that's around what my full size truck with a 350 "5.7" is rated for.

[@FORCE_PBC]

Rich, it’s amazing the speed at which you guys are working at. I really don’t know how I feel about China, but I’m very excited for all of Edison’s ideas “and yours” to go from paper to field testing. Thank you for being so transparent. This will pay off in the long run when people start learning about Edison and your ideas. Great job. I wish I had your brain. Can’t wait to see finished product.

[@Low760]

What do you mean how you feel about china? They are the biggest producer of almost anything and have been for 15 years or more. American companies sent all the work overseas as soon as they could...

[@FORCE_PBC]

@@Low760 which is the saddest part about my country. We are slaves to Chinese Amazon junk. I see what your doing tho.

[@cthulhuaid2998]

​@@FORCE_PBCIn fairness, it does seem as though theyve done their best to avoid china at all costs, but ofc if theres no alternatives and they literally can not find e axels anywhere else, id rather they grab them from china, qa/qc the shit outta thek and at least be able to complete the project

[@FORCE_PBC]

@@cthulhuaid2998 I wrote this long answer back. But YT didn’t post it, and I didn’t copy it first. I have a lot of reasons, I guess that’s my answer. Damn YT….

[@StretchMiller509]

I am excited for everyone who is involved in this project. My friends and I have talked for years about why there isn't a diesel electric consumer vehicle. I have been following your steps on the Ram since you announced it and I am hopeful that I'll be buying a successful conversion in the years to come. Love this work guys!

[@scottleepeters]

This is the transparency I like to see. I'm excited for my retro kit and when I'm finished testing it for myself I'm going to need 10 - 20 more over the next 10 years.

[@NoharaLoco-gw8ld]

Im very interested in this project. Hoping edison and deboss make this compatible for f-450 and f-550 trucks.

[@joshfazenbaker5691]

What year?

[@RNG_Anarchist]

You can bolt it in to anything with enough fab. The question is how much of your festures are gonna go away they cant exactly make this work with the body harness on anything from about 2011 plus

[@NoharaLoco-gw8ld]

@@RNG_Anarchist Easy answer to that, the truck doesn't have many features lol.

[@NoharaLoco-gw8ld]

@@joshfazenbaker5691 I currently have a 2003 f-450 But I'm looking at getting a 2006 F-550 Extended cab. I don't like the 08-10 body style and the 11 and up series are too dang expensive to buy and convert for where I'm at right now.

[@RNG_Anarchist]

@NoharaLoco-gw8ld what do you do with your truck? You're kinda luck becase even though your truck has a bcm it can function independently of the drive train so that pretty much just leaves figuring out the cluster but I think dakota digital makes a cluster for that truck. Even if not, it's not fancy, so regular gauges or a holley dash would help the holley actually already has provisions for electric drive trains

[@ctibpo991]

Those front axles don't necessarily all need to go on the front. Could have some all wheel steering fun! 😊

[@kevinscheimreif7866]

Best collaboration on the internet. Absolutely love this project and the goal.

[@bradbengtsson8984]

This is just an awesome project. Very exciting. I’m looking forward to the Eaxle emission results.

[@francesyoung8910]

I'm super excited for this build/collaboration...I have a 2WD '07 Silverado Classic single cab long bed that I am swapping into a '03 4dr 4x4 long bed and I am going to start Hotshotting with and I want to go this route if it's cost effective. I own my truck and don't want to spend 100K plus on a new truck if I could have this type of system.

[@Worlds_okayest_engineer]

I’m curious if the fuel mileage comparison on the dyno somehow takes the truck’s mass into account, or is this test only a comparison of drivetrain efficiency for the same load curve.

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Mass is calculated in

[@FoolOfATuque]

As an industrial designer I love this detailed nerdy stuff. I do the calculations on whether stuff will blow up or not, but I also put it together and test it. Seeing this project come together is very exciting.

[@adamgleeson342]

I work at the resource centre where you did the dyno testing. I could hear the CO monitors going off when you guys did the 5.9L testing 😂 It's great to see the equipment being used for awesome projects like this! I had my 1988 first gen dodge at the lab earlier this summer as well so I have you guys beat for oldest vehicle in the lab 😂😂

[@Phantom0309]

does this rolling road have the ability to motor the wheels, ie simulate regen? then you could do a longer cycle where it would be possible to show any strengths of the battery + motor half of the powertrain

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Yes, it will simulate going down hills by powering the wheels

[@73SDR]

LOL, "but we are not these people" as you change back into flannel

[@GWBergen61]

The scope of this project is altering my mind and I’m here for all it Rich. 👊

[@geraldgepes]

Great work, to all the teams involved on this. I'm excited to see the numbers after electrification and just as interested in seeing the scope of work for the conversion.

[@anthonyjohnson100]

I am excited to buy one of these kits for my 2011 Ram 4500 4x4 120”CA 14’ flatbed dump. I really want more than 250 HP per axle though so I’ll wait until there’s a 500hp per axle option.

[@endangeredmarmot4518]

This is super cool - amazing to see the work you guys are all putting into the development process. Can't wait to see how everything ultimately turns out.

[@ericbrinson9741]

It’s so cool what you guys and Edison are doing. I think you’re really onto something

[@masonandmepowerwheelsvids1690]

Absolutely love seeing the r and d and all of the steps along the way!

[@harrisonhutchins9055]

Can’t wait to get a kit for a few of my pickups

[@dirkvandermerwe404]

Fantastic project, we need guys like you in South Africa. Also have to mention the perverted , guilty pleasure of watching a time lapse of a project! 😅

[@timberthewolf733]

Love that bolt in electric drive units are becoming more of a thing, that truck is beautiful. Id use that over my model 3 instantly.

[@CarswithNash]

Very cool!👍

[@JyynxSkirata]

Super excited about this project, both on a personal level and in terms of it's potential impact on automotive industry! I have a preference for smaller trucks and from the first time I saw anything about Edison I first thought how neat it would be to have this kind of system in a pickup, particularly something like a dakota, ranger etc. Glad to be around to see the progress!

[@greapsoho]

Perfect intro! I have always wondered how they captured the therms.Good info.

[@CaseyCannady]

Love it... love everything about this diesel-electric hybrid conversion! Can't wait to see how the end result drives and what eMPG gains are observed.

[@philiplangdeau6458]

Exciting stuff. Look forward to the next one.

[@garykerney2488]

Commenting just so the algorithm boosts this video. It deserves to blow up.

[@344vengence]

Love it!!!! Can't wait to see the next episode, and what progress has been made.

[@petecunnien5368]

This is the most exciting build I ever ever seen and I absolutely love seeing these videos come up!!!!!!! Thank you for sharing this with us

[@emilecrotteau7312]

🇨🇦THANK YOU KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK I WILL BE QUITE HAPPY TO JUST ADD MY AXEL TUBES ON TO THE ELECTRIC PUMPKIN

[@omarpadilla7674]

Wow, just wow. This makes every bit of sense. I love my diesel but I’d put this on my truck in a heartbeat if it was proven. Also it was cool to see the guys from Edison motors. Can’t wait for more

[@davidbowser]

I love that the edit jumps around with Rich having clean shave, then some scruff to a full beard in like 5 minutes. I was cracking up watching that

[@overbuiltautomotive1299]

Love the cat !! you think people would paint bed liner their frames up north as expensive as trucks are wild the rust the DIY brad bed liner ..linerxtreeme is kevar and varying rubber can be added if you want in it and is dirt cheap for what you get and in colors to

[@POLOLOUS3]

I love the idea of testing a stock engine/hybrid combo to compare what is best/vs cost

[@racer25s]

Love the research fellas!

[@spacebike420]

I want to recharge some of these someday! I already have one dodge ready to swap

[@barnhouseinc]

How is it possible that nobody knows about this?? I'm not a big electric car guy but...this is so cool and interesting! Sending love to my brothers up in the frozen north 😅CAN'T WAIT FOR MORE OF THIS!!

[@CheapDutchRuss]

This is such a cool process to be able to see! Can’t wait to see this as a final product!

[@oregonsignalfan]

E-axle retrofit for a Ford Ranger? YES PLEASE!!!!

[@cdnkitesurfer]

I've always wanted a system like this from a big manufacturer. It just makes sense. If train locomotives use this idea, I'm pretty sure it could work for trucks. Will be following with interest and might buy a kit if I can figure out a shop space for the swap.

[@rollinmetzger7392]

Looking like the Temu John McClain in the closing scene. Keep up the hard work, excited to see this ram come together ⚡️

[@36browneyedman]

My face hurts from smiling so much! So happy for you guys I can’t wait to see how it turns out!!

[@stevejohnson1231]

This is really interesting work. Really looking forward to seeing the results of the hybrid system.

[@kylefergus8722]

EASILY the best opening you've done. Hilarious, well done

[@jebediahkerman3946]

Really can't wait to see how this tech performs. Want to do the conversion in my motorhome. This gives better hauling power, and the genset can be tied into the house batteries and electrical to eliminate the second generator. And with solar on the roof I can get some free miles when sitting and boondocking for a few days.

[@bdjm8595]

Great to see this begining to shape up!!!

[@paulhoskins7852]

The videos just keep getting better and better.

[@danielvallejos9]

What a time to be alive, keep it up ❤

[@justinlynch6691]

These videos are like Christmas for me

[@andrewlippincott]

Omg! It's really gonna happen! Finally!

[@__WJK__]

Impressive work gentlemen!

[@shannonschneider8413]

Would a dayton style mounting system on the factory wheelstuds ,those studs look a lot more sturdy for mounting a decent tyre/rim combo,but i digress,this build is going to be epic,cheers from australia 🇦🇺

[@dustinmostoller9109]

This is pretty incredible.

[@boltonky]

Going to make big changes with edison motors and the worlds not even on to it yet....i would do a conversion like this in a heart beat

[@memsu06]

I do engineering in HVAC controls making buildings more efficient. Finally someone is working on something that's actually feasible for transportation. The electrical needs of a fleet of Tesla semi trucks is enormous. You would need a power plant for a large truck stop to charge them. Go look at the size of the transformers at these car charging stations. It might even be larger than the transformer that feeds a commercial building. Infrastructure and battery storage wise we are no where close to going full electric. Diesel electric is the way to go between now until battery technology improves. It's the only way to go for long haul trucking, mining, shipping, etc. I'm really surprised large manufacturers aren't doing more research into this.

[@OlTrailDog]

Love these gearheads. Amazing project.

[@justinlynch6691]

Also I love the hands lollll. Nothing says balls to the wall quite like test driving with the grease from under the truck still on your mitts as you roll down the road.

[@TG8Z]

I can't wait to own a truck with this kit!!

[@BillHuskey]

This is a great project. I really enjoy watching this series.

[@yanick__]

Good job to Rich and the team! It would have been interesting to see the fuel consumption numbers between the 5.9 and the 2.8.

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

It is definitely interesting data. The way it is recorded in the test needs some translation and will be presented once we have the e-axles tested. We only showed the emissions results for towing here and the simulation assumes the total load is 14500 lbs... that only tell part of the story for MPGs, I think it deserves a full explanation and a real-world test before we make any claims.

[@59vaughn]

That 2.8 package is sweeet....

[@amalgamas1980s]

So excited to start this video!

[@frankleonard6570]

This is amazing fabrication and very clever building. Hard to believe that these guys dont get more attention than they do

[@fusion_phoenix]

I LOVE WHAT YOURE DOING DEBOSS!!

[@nicholasfrediani9466]

Guys, this was an amazing video begining to end. Music choice,especially during machining the hub spacers, just great all around. Thanks guys!!

[@RM-ys9wg]

I need this retrofit in my RV!

[@cferge]

Absolutely LOVE These Videos..... I kind of tapered off watching Deboss Garage a few years ago; This 100% got me back into watching! 🙂

[@ianholmen888]

Love to see new mods for a gen 2 ram.

[@duanebass1764]

I really like this project. If you ever do something in the states, as far as building these trucks, I would be interested.

[@1944chevytruck]

Good job boyz!

[@jonathonalsop2120]

I've always checked in from time to time on this channel. Now I'm subbed, this is exciting!

[@davidzigrang7924]

Thanks this a great project you are doing thanks david

[@kodisan08]

Absolulty love this project and the concepts! Thank you for taking the time to test all of the variations. Intriguing to say the least. I know the E-axles are designed to work with the heavy duty truck sector but i'm curious if this application would work on the heavy duty van sector as well? E250/350 sprinters etc. Might not have the engine area? Love to hear your thoughts. Best of luck as the project developes!

[@ShaneEstabrooks]

This is awesome.. can't wait to see the results with the e-axles👍🇨🇦 ... I have a 1951 Dodge M37 Canadian version that you can add this kit too 😊

[@tony4metallicaify]

love my 2nd gens! that oke truck looks awsome!!