how we DESTROYED a scammer who sued me

[@mariocerame]

Jeez man, annihilated? I dunno.... but it is a good result though especially for pro bono work. I would add that we had a complex decision tree for some 7 additional steps after removal: 1) seek sanctions if they didn't amend their complaint to have a non-frivolous cause of action, then 2) challenge personal jurisdiction in OH, then 3) if we were still in OH 3a) try to apply foreign anti-SLAPP laws from FL, TX, NJ, or VA, which may or may not work; or 3b) if they lost on PJ in OH then anti-SLAPP motions in whatever relevant jurisdiction they took it to, being FL, TX, NJ, or VA, then 4) challenge whatever non-contractual claim they amended, if possible, in a m/dismiss, then 5) challenge subject matter jurisdiction as to the preliminary injunctive relief sought, to narrow the issues, then 6) we'd be using the discovery process to bolster the factual basis of your video and prepare for the m/summary judgment after discovery, and, 7) if and only if appropriate based on facts uncovered, refer the matter to a gov't agency for review. We had all this planned out, as well as what was discussed in the video, before we demanded they amend or withdraw. We knew what we would do and were ready to do all this and knew we could do all this. Only then we made a demand.

[@Rhan_tu]

As someone who wants to become a lawyer, I must say, this isn't something I've ever heard of. Really interesting stuff.

[@hylighter9277]

@UpperEchelon also looking for a lawyer in a similar case rn, should reach out to him.

[@doge5401]

You did a hell of a job. Good stuff, man. :)

[@billywashere6965]

@@hylighter9277 Wait, Upper Echelon games made a comment? What did he say?

[@mariocerame]

@@Rhan_tu 1) If you can do anything else, don't be a lawyer. Most of my cases are not so satisfying as this one and with the rarest of exceptions, the satisfying cases either don't pay well enough to live on or don't pay at all. And you gotta figure out how to keep the lights on in private practice. 2) In my experience, the best free speech arguments are just good lawyering in general, not specific to the 1A. Here that meant personal jurisdiction, sanctions, what discovery actually looks like, what prosecutors are looking for if you refer a case, choice of law--when parties are from different states. Most of this is nerdy stuff that makes most lawyers want to puke. Ain't nothing sexy about arguing PJ. 3) That said, there were some wrinkles in knowing substantive things like what an anti-SLAPP statute is (not something you're likely to learn in law school), knowing the limitations on equitable remedies in the context of the 1A, knowing fair use if they tried a copyright claim etc. 4) The most valuable currency for you as an attorney is your credibility. So don't make an idle threat to the enemy, and don't make a stupid argument to a judge. 5) If you must go to law school, do an LSAT intensive course, like a 5 week boot camp where you do it 6 days a week all day long. I didn't do that and I regret it. Beg or borrow the money from family. Work a summer in a shitty job for it. Whatever it takes. Then go big (a top school); go free (full tuition scholarship); or go home (do something else with your life). I chose the second. 6) If I still cannot persuade you not to go to law school, when you're there, take as many classes as possible with professors who know what the inside of a courtroom looks like--who were or are practitioners for more than a couple years. Take every clinic, externship, and practical skills class you possibly can. 7) Before you go to law school, do something with lawyers. Work in a firm, have lawyer friends and hang out with them. As much as you possibly can, learn what it's really like. Learn about the boring parts. However much you think you know, you don't know enough. Make a plan for how you're going to live after law school, a sketch in your head for how you'll get a job, or what kind of job you want, and make it a practical, plausibly obtainable goal. The plan may change, but move from plan to plan. Don't not have a plan. Best wishes.

[@MrMcSonny]

Your lawyer looks like he could kill the other lawyer in a axe duel during a combat trial.

[@donbot5000]

plan b

[@twalsh05]

Ya lol. He could def dual wield whirlwind if looks are anything to go by 😂

[@mcfeddle]

​@@donbot5000always the lowercase without punctuation making the best possible comments.

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

​@@mcfeddleit's like those 30 second long KZbin videos from 14 years ago with a title like "video3.avi"

[@teeborg1519]

He probably also prepared for trial by combat ahahaha

[@bobuiux]

Ali getting acquainted with the Streisand effect

[@leandrosalexsandrovich179]

This guy gets it; cheers mate 🍻

[@Septicshites]

Lol yeah you got it

[@clonezi]

Just seeing this video in my recommended, and you’re entirely correct.

[@amarepsilon2054]

And I learned something today (Googled it)

[@RealUnHoly]

Came for tarkov, stayed for lawsuit… Again…

[@Sirmellowman]

honestly screw tarkov at this point lmao

[@RealUnHoly]

@@Sirmellowman nah. Tarkov is my second favorite game. Yah it’s bullshit but so is (almost) every other game

[@Sirmellowman]

oh its still my favorite game bro, the problem is the devs are greedy fking assholes destroying it. so I refuse to play it@@RealUnHoly

[@F_Yale]

@@Sirmellowman Yep, dead-end scam game.

[@kaimojepaslt]

only multiplayer games.@@RealUnHoly

[@lucashayes346]

Dont drop your guard just because you won. People like Ali and some of the people who you’ve listed work for him are scummy enough that they might still try to cause you very annoying trouble, legal or otherwise. Stay safe, stay smart, and I wish you so much happiness in your future endeavors!

[@This_is_a_burner]

Evidently he has doxxed people, stalked people, harassed people both online and offline, etc etc etc. I would honestly be anxious about him showing up all disheveled for revenge one day.

[@HurricaneSA]

@@This_is_a_burner I believe the USA has laws that give you the right to defend yourself with lethal force should someone trespass on your property. Ali might want to consider that.

[@sleep_deprived_stormworker]

@@HurricaneSA did i hear l e t h a l f o r c e?

[@HurricaneSA]

@@sleep_deprived_stormworker Yup. Would be trespassers and tough guys don't always realize that being on someone's property without consent enables the owner to shoot first and ask questions later. Then all the owner has to say in a court of law is that he felt threatened. Case closed.

[@sleep_deprived_stormworker]

@@HurricaneSA dang, no wonder firearms are so common in households.

[@lawsen3719]

Upper Echelon is dealing with a lawsuit as well, against a Twitter journalist.

[@mariocerame]

Yeah, I reached out to him and we've talked a lot. He's a good guy, and thanks for supporting him in his fight as well. I look forward to when he can feel free to update folks. If you or anyone ever come across someone in such a situation like g0at or Upper Echelon, encourage them to reach out to me and I'll help them find representation, even if it isn't a case for me. There are only like 3 people in the US with my name and I'm the lawyer one.

[@lawsen3719]

@@mariocerame He said in his recent video that things are going well, hopefully the case will be closed soon, thankfully he got community funding. Thank you and others like you who stand up against these unfair people.

[@mariocerame]

​@@lawsen3719 Nice. We talked today actually. I can't get into it ofc but there's more for him to say. It may take a long while before he can talk about it freely--same as with g0at, we lawyers are control freaks for the facts. I will say the community funding was absolutely clutch and extremely important. Like others, I also gave as soon as I read about it on coffee's twitter acct.

[@IT10T]

@@lawsen3719 Yeah they got like over 30k to fund a lawyer, which should cover it, considering it's pretty much as open and shut and this one...

[@ryanrasmussen5346]

Fact that he’s already worried about recording shows he’s got something hide. Then that top security clip was hilarious.

[@RyuusanFT86]

Mom said it's my turn with the Top Secret Clearance

[@Nyghtrid3r]

Considering who he is that is probably correct, but that statement shouldn't be made broadly. That's like saying "If someone uses their right to remain silent, they are guilty, because innocent people have nothing to hide."

[@migueeeelet]

Yeah wtf, I would be so tempted to tell him to shut up and stop stirring shit before anything was even said just because someone was recording lol

[@Devin7Eleven]

@@Nyghtrid3rThis. Right to remain silent so you don’t accidentally say something you don’t mean is important.

[@inoob26]

to be fair even someone innocent have reasons to not want to be recorded for fear of being tricked into saying something they didnt do, tho thankfully most cases the people who does that does in fact want to hide something shady

[@astrocat2913]

Ali has a childs understanding of how classified information works.

[@MinistryOfMagic_DoM]

He should run for President. I hear they have about the same level of understanding for the past 2-3 folks holding the POTUS/VPOSTUS seats.

[@AlexSwanson-rw7cv]

To be fair the fallacy of "I'm cleared for classification X so I'm allowed to see everything classified X" has been pushed in all sorts of fiction for a long time.

[@martinszmidt6121]

when the manager at mc donalds tells you that you have top secret clearance you don't question it

[@Sleek898]

"because I am special" best line of the day. bro is the goat literally

[@pramusetyakanca1552]

He didn't name himself g0at for nothing, mi amigo.

[@TJRiverC2001]

G0at within the space of a year: - Exposes hackers on Tarkov and breaks the Internet and hands ass to BSG. - Gets PC fried by hackers in retaliation, G0at's response: "👁️___👁️ oh noooo lol your studio got raided by police 10/10 would do again" - Educates the world on American Healthcare and insurance, awesome stuff. - Exposes Con Artist and kicks his ass in state court and ends his days of scamming. I'm interested to see what else happens before December lol

[@Sirmellowman]

jeez dude this lawyer of yours is a beast, he clearly knows his shit

[@smalldummy804]

Mmm, I've actually been in the VTOL VR discord and I've encountered sypwn a lot, the guy is incredibly respectful and reasonable, the community is nice and so is he, it really hurts to see Ali talk to him like that! ^^'

[@MyLonewolf25]

That whole discord is awesome

[@smalldummy804]

@@MyLonewolf25 Ye! Defo! ^^ I've only had 1 bad interaction in 3 months

[@rolux4853]

Why is nobody just punching that weird guy in the mouth? I don’t understand how people can get away with such behavior without the society around them putting them into their place. America is a wild place where every scammer can reach havoc it seems and the court system helps scammer scum.

[@KhaziirEverflight]

Agreed, the folks in there are all so damn lovely and there to help. A friend of mine is making a mod for it (Dance of aces I believe it's called... it has pve, pvp and a freeflight training map... my friend uploaded it under the name Umbra) and had a few issues along the way, and they all always did their best to help him as much as they could. Honestly, VTOL is propably one of my favorite vr games, and most definitely my favirote flight sim of any kind.

[@RaptorReplays]

Well the actual truth is simply that they’re both pieces of shit. Both GOAT and Ali. Simple as that. It shows in both of their actions and behaviours here.

[@Mrlultime]

Kudos to Mario Cerame for his great work and explanation!

[@wollfary]

Would be dope if someone made Better Call Mario Cerame meme. That dude looks like a lawyer wizard, if I ever needed a lawyer you bet I'd call the law wizard Mario!

[@Sevenigma777]

So glad there's people like you who exist and being you were a former firefighter selflessly helping others for no personal gain really shows what you are about. *edit accidentally typed selfishly instead of selflessly*

[@Jkb2002]

helping others isnt selfish, its selfless

[@devoter]

​@@Jkb2002ugh saving others for literally no gain? Selfish af bruh

[@ryanbolson23]

My guy doesn’t know the difference between selfish and selfless.

[@casedistorted]

I was also formerly a firefighter. Do I get the selfless treatment too?

[@sussyslurp]

@@casedistorted not if your begging for acknowledegment

[@Trashcan9999]

Nice man I know you were a little worried about this but congrats glad you did good.

[@medea27]

Thanks for this update & giving Mario the floor to explain some "home truths" about legal proceedings... it's never as simple as you think. What many people don't appreciate is that legal action of _any_ kind is stressful, whether you can afford to fight it or not. It permeates your whole life... even the most frivolous of lawsuits can threaten your livelihood & financial stability because now you have months (if not years) of extra expenses & precious time that you'll need to spend on the lawsuit instead of on you & your family. It taints your decision-making, both privately & professionally. And worst of all, just because you are in the right _morally_ doesn't mean you’re guaranteed to win _legally…_ and that can take a huge mental toll. It’s why so many suits settle out of court, and why people rarely recoup their legal costs… the cost is far greater than any benefit, you just want it to be over. And it’s why people like Ali - who weaponise legal processes like DMCA takedowns & frivolous SLAPP lawsuits - are scum of the earth. So congrats on the result g0at & Mario! 👍 And more importantly, congrats on the new addition to the family! 💜

[@trustii5128]

Good to see that honest work pays off. I also appreciate the interview with your lawyer. This added some nice insight to the whole story. Love the inclusion of some of the comments aswell. Well done !

[@ghostphantom3967]

Heck Yeahhhh!!! Never doubt it but its always nice to see the good guys winning :) GG and keep making great content, you are awesome!!

[@jobothehobo23]

Love watching this unfold. Good stuff g0at!!!

[@TheStratovarian]

Im danged glad to hear you got this guy to back down as it went! Cheers to you, lawyer, and everyone that stepped up for this.

[@Blowin_Bubbles]

I hope Mario's shoulder is okay, he seems to be having it phase in and out of existence. Happy for you. Preach man.

[@fichmusic8860]

Mans a hero to the gaming community. You deserve heckin more fame Papi

[@sirsiriussowhy]

Keep doing what you are doing 💪💚

[@LancerinCompany]

I guess you could say your lawyer's the g0at

[@LancerinCompany]

:3c

[@renstal7638]

I loved that you let your lawyer talk and explain all the details of what any content creator could very well have to deal with in certain situations that go to court

[@GhostGrovePlay]

Love to see it man. Keep up the great work!

[@EkiToji]

I'm pretty sure Boundless Dynamics is just one dude so it's weird to try poaching him. I first knew of Paolo from making BDArmory for Kerbal Space Program but he's really done a lot with VTOL VR and I wish him the best. Everything Paolo has done and accomplished should make Ali green with envy because Paolo actually has the skills and motivation to make things.

[@Bomkz]

can confirm VTOL VR only has one sole developer

[@Diarcom]

Yes, the man behind BDArmory is insanely skilled

[@glowtail3744]

Let us not forget vtol vr is also a really good modding platform. He made one hell of a game

[@heliveruscalion9124]

i read that as boston dynamics lmao imagine being one dude in a garage making the world's most advanced bipedal robots 😂 (note: i dunno if that's true it's a joke)

[@derekturner3272]

Lawyers who stand up for our (real) rights are a different breed. Thank you for doing what you do.

[@bigzed7908]

I have never in my entire time on the internet witnessed a Suits scenario played out IRL 😂 Good work G0at!

[@savage751]

Haha love how your lawyer was calling the other side "forces of evil"

[@joebutler6244]

found your channel from the tarkov wiggle, which i loved despite never playing tarkov, so i love the new direction you're taking, great work on being an excellent journalist

[@einfisch3891]

"because i am special" that line was cold as hell bro

[@jasonface9008]

Great video! Hope you and Coffeezilla end up collaborating on something in the future, it's clear you have a keen eye for bringing awareness to situations like TWS!

[@kevinmajorca]

Ali is so salty 🧂I'm getting sodium overdose.

[@reimusklinsman5876]

9:10 I like how Marios beard matches his tie

[@paulutron]

"I have a very small channel" well you have one of the biggest hearts for truth bud! ty for your hard work

[@EyesOfByes]

54th subscriber on your other channel. Hope to get a pat on my back in ten years :D

[@tangentfox4677]

I love that you got this long interview with your lawyer. Always like to learn more about this stuff.

[@smooody1988]

Happy to see how this played out. Well done both of you!

[@ahmed-alnoor]

That lawyer is an absolute legend, im glad this didn't go too far.. now you can concentrate on creating great content.. keep at it man

[@vanswillmakeitdance]

Heck yeah shout-out to the the lawyer for jumping in on the action

[@qinntt]

I didnt realize that you were the wiggle guy. Glad you're not a 1 hit wonder. This was a great series of videos!

[@SkrapMetal84]

this is giveing me flash backs of when jim sterling was sued by Digital Homicide.

[@flawbertrobert]

Love this interview with your lawyer - very informative!

[@billymcclanahan1794]

Congrats on your 3rd daughter, kids are a blessing, stay blessed brother.

[@Marius-J]

CEO, lmao, he comes across more like one of those lifestyle guru's

[@leandrosalexsandrovich179]

Congratulations with your beautiful baby! I stumbled across your channel today and I love your articulate manner and well sourced, unarguable facts but all I can say is as a recent father myself it’s just a beautiful and exhilarating feeling, much luck and to better fortunes ! You got my subscribe my guy. Cheers 🍻

[@Tryppin]

When criminals think they are legally right.

[@thatguyoverthere9634]

Ali: "are you special" Absolutely killer move: "No but you definitely are"

[@Blackthorn1000]

Ladies and gentleman, we got em!

[@Brunnen_Gee]

Holy crap. I've seen people join Discord servers and immediately start trouble, but that takes it to a whole new level.

[@evancobb6829]

Congrats on the lawsuit getting retracted (and for your new addition to the family!!!)! I know it's not "over" over, but it seems like the worst is behind you. You've got some of the most unique content out there, keep it up! I'll be sure to catch your starfield stream...in the unlikely event I'm not playing it 24/7 come September

[@IAm18PercentCarbon]

Earning the name "GOAT" I see

[@Gtown526]

This is like an episode of "Suits" and very interesting.

[@chains2g]

Fell down the rabbit hole here, while waiting for the Tark patch. Honestly.. W. I like you, dawg

[@paulherzog7858]

Wow, I really wish you the best of luck with this guy. Mario Cerame is awesome! The law is kinda weird battlefield, in Germany it's really scuffed in certain ways as well.

[@thepolishnz]

imagine if all journalism is off the record

[@Tramelle]

GOAT WINS!!! Justice prevails :D

[@DadsBud11]

Fantastic work. I was a little late to view these in order to support, but you've got a new sub for sure!

[@herrosblade9703]

It's pretty late, but it's a nice breath of fresh air. Watching the breakdown of someone actually getting legal trouble because they weren't able to bully you into Silence

[@hexxin]

Congrats on the birth of your child and the legal win. I respect and appreciate your work. Thanks for the content.

[@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953]

Going to subscribe because you stood up to a bully who thought his money could threaten you and scare you into silence 😎

[@me0101001000]

Today, YT recommended was a good boy

[@SuperJamesus]

Great outcome, always a spirit lifter for the good guys to win! Love the channel ❤

[@tram1839]

02:15 not all journalists operate like that, all good journalists in my opinion operate like that but from what I observe a lot nowadays are very.... lazy in their sourcing. very often falling for things like the woozle effect. or just quoting/citing people who do flawed studies or research without realizing it. I respect your work very well because you strive for what a journalist aught to be.

[@Espere]

For someone that studied law in Germany, the US law to me always seems like an absolute dumpster fire

[@mariocerame]

It is and it isn't. At the end of the day, I was able to end the suit before my client was even served (they messed up service at least once, you see). Now, it may be simple to say this case got ended quick or easily, but the truth is more nuanced and involved, which we wanted to share and explain a bit. Luckily g0at had a pro bono lawyer who had an unusual amount of litigation expertise generally and in this area of the law specifically, but it could have really sucked if he didn't. I imagine I'd be similarly dazzled coming to Germany by some of the laws there. I can think of one off the bat but I don't want to seem rude. In terms of the fight here, had we gone on, I think we would have won on kicking the suit out of OH at least. Whether the enemy would have continued in another jurisdiction--not so sure. Thankfully all the other available jurisdictions--places where the plaintiffs or a defendant were located--all have at least passable anti-SLAPP statutes. And so we'd have been able to hit back, and we had planned all that out and knew the lay of the land in those jurisdictions and knew who to tap in these legal networks and so on. Now, that isn't always the case, so I encourage people that if there is no anti-SLAPP statute in your jurisdiction, consider making it an issue where you live. Giving testimony on a bill may be easier than you think, and a handwritten letter is almost always read and taken seriously.

[@Unacceptablespoons]

I can think of a few German laws that are an even worse dumpster fire

[@19DESERTFOX91]

I'm no lawyer so maybe Legally speaking your right. but simply looking at crimes and how they are handled Germany is no better than USA. Yeah USA aint great either but Germany is right by us if not worse depending on what you value

[@dergunter1237]

it is and it isnt. Check german tax law if you want to see a real dumpster fire

[@neruneri]

Law is kind of a dumpster fire everywhere. Sometimes, it's a beautiful dumpster fire. Most of the time, it's a necessary dumpster fire. The characteristics of what kind of dumpster fire it is varies, but the push-pull nature doesn't.

[@SneakyBeaky430]

The Friendly Jordies thing was the first thing that came to mind, keep doing awesome work and stay safe brother man

[@Cheiff117]

Eww Ali .. in vtol vr chat.. get him out Great video goat so glad u won against this clown!

[@hoosiermarinemak0621]

Good news is always good to hear. Congrats on the win and congrats on the new addition to the family!

[@sadjesse]

So nice to see all of KZbin coming together and helping 🥰

[@chancepaladin]

very nice! mission success. I hope the other codefendants can get free and clear as well.

[@scagmo_au]

Props for bringing up friendlyjordies, the media as a whole have stopped tslking about that incident here in the Democratic People's Republic of Australia

[@TechyBen]

Cries in UK Super Injunctions.

[@oktc68]

Nice one buddy, saw your first video on this subject, I'm pleased you got a good result.

[@RakazakTV]

Good shit brother, love to see it!

[@georgkilianbraunig5877]

somebody took the trash out... thank you!!! I hope you know how many naive people and Aviation Dads you saved from spending a lot of money...

[@SavedByFaith9981]

You earned a sub for exposing evil. God bless you

[@domestosteron]

Bro called Saul.

[@lefixes]

I am really glad there wasn't an H3 lawsuit situation and I am glad I can see this type of journalism.

[@markuskalmi2745]

we need to 3x3cut3 scammers like these.

[@whiterottenrabbit]

In addition to having bigger balls, your lawyer has also a bigger beard than that Ali guy.

[@Niedfyr]

Dont know why the initial video was randomy recommended, but the videos were great. Also gj from your lawyer who looks more trustworthy than those slick guys in designer suits. But now i will look for those tarkov videos everyone is talking about

[@am7537]

I love these kind of videos, just subbed. Good on you for calling out these people.

[@RoughNek72]

So your lawyer did the WIGGLE, and Ali wiggled back! Hahaha!!!!!!!

[@esaedvik]

His attitude in the VTOL Discord server, christ :D

[@Jacen436987]

i love how you're like the coffeezilla against cheaters and scammers in games

[@joeyl5994]

I'm glad this worked out for you! It was a pleasure running into you in Battlebit!

[@UHChibi]

Love the shout out to Coffeezilla, and for all the work everyone like you content creators do!

[@kuukeli]

thank you for the video

[@sebastiancardenasholik]

That lawyer rocks

[@diszydreams]

Well done!!

[@iloveplasticbottles]

"KZbin rejected the DMCA claim" Hold up, KZbin actually rejected a false DMCA claim?

[@hamzaayoub3382]

your lawyers beard is magnificant

[@moop101]

Your journalism is reaching great heights I hope you take another dive into tarkov again to see what you can uncover

[@grundged]

While your lawyer has an epic beard, he definitely needs a better green screen. 😅

[@derekturner3272]

Scumbags are way, WAY more common than good people in the "let me see you an idea" space.

[@matthewhaworth5935]

Great work man, and congratz on the new little one.

[@astrowerm]

Congrat brotha! Well deserved, cant say the same for Ali.

[@olinwread137]

You produce quality content and I appreciate your contributions to the KZbin space. Thank you ❤

[@Esotericism72]

Loved the video btw! I like the way you present stuff like this so its entertaining AND I still learn something, thanks!