How we run our 4K Generator on biogas at Rosebud

[@jai-rod]

I'm blown away by the simplicity and creativity, I've been searching for a solution to pressurizing the biogas for the propane appliances at home, the aquarium pump is very affordable as.well as the air mattress, brilliant!

[@thesenate4040]

Bio gas and propane are very different, be sure to convert everything to natural gas first!

[@jonhickers]

I saw a video where they used sandbag atop the bladder to provide pressure output.

[@TheWinezen]

I would attach a moisture collector into the system, pereferably between the aquarium pump outlet and the generator inlet hose so that I can remove the moisture of the gas being used by the generator. Its a simple solution but it will prolong the life of your sparkplugs.

[@bern4679]

Cat litter works to remove water

[@douglasrenk981]

Very nice demonstration, sir. Keeping it simple for the general KZbin audience. I would however emphasize safety and explosion hazards, but not to shy people away from this wonderful alternative fuel.

[@rodhobbs4855]

How would you improve this design???

[@william38022]

Truthfully any gas has explosion hazards however the way this guy is doing it it’s actually pretty safe there’s a lot of guys out there trying to pressurize cylinders with this bio gas and there has been explosions happening sometimes because they’re not using the right compressors. The compressors gets hot then you can imagine what happens next ,,,this here is a kiss method and anyone with Horse sense should be able to do this you can use brickage/weight on the gas envelope in this case an air mattress and run a simple burner for a stove and a lot of other things his aquarium pump idea creates a positive gas flow to run a generator long enough to do key essentials in an off grid or grid down situation well pump charge a battery bank etc.

[@mufasum]

​@@rodhobbs4855 use a compressor and put it in a metal BBQ-style-fuel-tank. Much more durable than storing flammable gas in air mattress.

[@harrycave6309]

Just a note if you could get a dc pump you could use the battery charging facility that this generator probably has to charge a battery that then powers the pump and then the generator comes on it recharges the battery also don’t recommend people run combustion engines inside doesn’t matter what they burn it should never be done no matter the fuel other than that cool video

[@apinhmi]

Does it work for a Diesel engine generator?

[@jeffbaker2740]

I think that's a really good idea using the battery to run the pump here at my house I have a 2500 gallon water tank behind my house I have a farm I have an on demand pump under the house and solar panel and a Marine deep cycle battery hook to it and the water line is hooked into at the water heater if the well goes out or if the power goes out which it has a couple of times couple problems the last one was a lightning strike to the wire had to run $700 worth of number 10 it's way out away from my house it's very handy it produces 60 PSI and it only runs when something's turned on in the house you can take showers and run the washing machine

[@commentingisawasteoftime7195]

​@@apinhmithis is a year old but what you want for a diesel generator is a waste oil set up rather than biogas

[@patrickfinnegan5202]

My friend that is absolutely awesome! It’s nice that we can run things on multiple levels. Biogas is absolutely priceless especially if you have a farm in lots of ways to create Biogas. The filtration system for Biogas is actually quite simple and allows you to use it for cooking and basically to work in any type of motor with the proper adapter like what you have in that generator. Absolutely appreciate the video very much look forward to seeing any new developments. Could you possibly do a video showing how to compress biogas into cylinders Like you do with propane that would be absolutely cool. Thank you my friend!

[@kennedymuchoki5208]

Great and awesome inovation. Must have that fuel kit splitter.

[@markcrockford9679]

just lay a sheet of compressed cement sheeting on your mattress that will give you pressure out off your gas

[@danrawson8515]

Awesome video Thomas thanks you have opened my eyes to the possibilitys if living off grid without solar turbines which are not that great anyway...

[@dmu9736]

Was looking for part 2 of the conversion vid and came across this one but was not disappointed with the info shared. I am interested to know if this type of setup could be used to permanently live off-grid? Also, I always thought methane was super combustible and dangerous but to see how it is used here I can't believe we are all paying for propane and natural gas to heat our homes. What are the safety concerns involved with using methane?

[@NickFoxQuixand]

Natural gas is methane.

[@totalpkgproductions2797]

Totally awesome! Thank you for sharing.

[@SkepticalCaveman]

Instead of gasoline, would it be possible to start it with ethanol?

[@David_Mash]

Seems like the venturi effect would pull vacuum on the biogas after it has started so that you could unplug the pump

[@marketermagic4993]

have you heard of people putting sand bags on the bladder to self pressurize the system

[@jojopornebo188]

The pump may be using metal parts and armatures that can lead to explosion if there are any biogas leaks.

[@medina3420]

Wow that's awesome 👌🏼 Thanks, I'm doing this

[@sandybarbee8401]

Just out of curiosity once , I turned off the gasoline to my generator , ran a small hose from the pressure regulator on a tank of Propane to the mouth of the carburetor . Started and ran just fine !

[@sallybryan3754]

Very good. Thanks for info

[@gerrys6265]

Love it..I would appreciate knowing more about the 'snorkel' allowing the engine to switch between fuels. where can you get them? Could a person make one?

[@william38022]

US carburetor/carburetion sells the motor snorkel kit google US carburetor/carburetion and/or motor snorkel kit however yes you can make a rudimentary fuel delivery system for almost any combustion engine it’s best if it has a petcock valve start it on gasoline warm it up turn the gasoline off and when the engine starts dying out turn on the methane gas or whatever and have a small piece of tubing/heat resistant hose going into the carburetor it may even work going into the air filter area however I’m not sure about the air filter area. I had an old McCullough 5500 W generator years ago it was big yellow generator and there was a diaphragm type deal that went on top of the engine and the carburetor mounted to that I believe it was some type of fiberglass and I very carefully drilled through that diaphragm and inserted copper tubing the same kind of copper tubing they use for icemakers for refrigerators and sealed it with JB Weld. I angled the copper tubing just right toward carburetor opening so it would deliver fuel into the running engine and keep it going I could run that engine on just about anything natural gas propane biogas we even made fuel by using mothballs one time and the engine would suck the gas it produced right out of the container and ran on that for a bit. I suppose you could probably use what they call wood gas also how ever we never tried that . US carburetor would probably be the safer way however in an emergency you get an engine going on a little bit of gasoline and then turn the fuel valve off if you have any kind of a hose going into the opening of that carburetor and it’ll run on just about anything that’s flammable within reason. if you can’t start a generator in an emergency on gasoline first then use a cordless drill and a socket and try and rotate the engine that way until it starts on biogas or whatever you have on hand just make sure you’re turning the engine in the right direction so you don’t ruin it.

[@gerrys6265]

@@william38022 Thanks a lot! Cheers

[@glenliesegang233]

Gasoline gets old unless additives like Stabil. Solar power for aquarium pump? Consider a hot water loop with aquarium pump (again, solar powered) with an antifreeze solution to heat digester to 100-110 degrees F, but need tank thermostat.

[@yousuckathomerepair7301]

Get me an avocado, a snorkel and an ice pick

[@jeffbaker2740]

Did you show all the components and how you put it together that would be very interesting cuz I'm also wanting to do the same thing at my place thanks if you would do that

[@kawaiisenshi2401]

I 2nd this. If there is a video already made , would someone please be willing to link it as a reply to this thread 🙏

[@Gasperltd]

How much bio gas is the generator using per hour?

[@FaisalAhmed6320s]

Same question

[@kawaiisenshi2401]

I 3rd this question ✋️

[@michellewolf7515]

I 4th this

[@samuelochieng1491]

How much

[@NasierOmran]

Probably 2/3 hours a day on a average size biodigester from what i have seen on other videos.

[@bennyzerda]

Very informative video, simple and easy to understand the set up. Can I have the information (model, part number, part name and brand) of the tri-fuel kit in series with the aquarium pump and where I can purchase it? I would appreciate very much your soonest response. Many thanks in advance.

[@tculhane]

Hi Ben, I got my kit from www.uscarburetion.com/type_4.htm. I would call or write them to get the right one for your generator; that is what I did. You want one that fits your genset and they are very friendly and informative. The in line air pump was from Amazon: www.amazon.com/Simple-Deluxe-min-Commercial-Airpump/dp/B07ZG998F3/ref=asc_df_B07ZG998F3/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416947940522&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4157053326385860952&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1015089&hvtargid=pla-892266798695&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=92223074365&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416947940522&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4157053326385860952&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1015089&hvtargid=pla-892266798695

[@0ffGridTechClub]

I was just thinking about using an old air mattress for this purpose 😎

[@DerekJohnGiovanni-cv9xc]

This is quite impressive

[@richardleighton822]

Great video, thank you

[@grahambate3384]

Gr8 video, how long can one queen side mattress run for cheers

[@teagueman100]

By the looks of it 10 mins.

[@justanumber427]

More like this please!

[@theaussienurseflipper.8113]

Gr8 vid , how many hours can generator run on 1 queen size mattress ? Don't tell me it depends.

[@MrPierreFernandes]

I did not know this was possible!!! WOW

[@timothinking9855]

The fact that vehicles aren't running on this everywhere yet is sadening.

[@param888]

Can you share the link for snorkel?

[@RarosueAmaraibi]

Awesome.

[@NoToPCBS]

The $64,000 questions are. How big is your biodigester how much do you feed it how much gas does it produce in 24-hours And how long will that run the generator for? Thanks

[@selectedsolutions]

There's is computation on that

[@NoToPCBS]

@@selectedsolutions Yes there is

[@NoToPCBS]

@@selectedsolutions Yes there is

[@dr.suryanarayanan9256]

@@selectedsolutions please give us a link to the computation formula! 🙏🏾 Thanks!

[@ColinMcMahon1337]

@@selectedsolutions Definitely wondering about this as well. I remember something like a 1/1 ratio where 1 cubic meter of compost/solution should make about 1 cubic meter of biogas. That can create up to 2.5kwh of energy. I feel that this is a bit off though.

[@duhhuskie2698]

Can you do the same connection into a car or a diesel engine?

[@hangfire5005]

Yea don't run this indoors. Carbon monoxide is still going to be there possibly even worse depending on the motor..

[@rolandsharp]

thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Can this gas be used in standard gas hot water systems and gas refrigerators?

[@zefradragmagiestprominence7669]

Why do office buildings not use this on a large scale? Im even thinking about hooking up the biodigester to a large gas stove, to boil steam for a steam turbine. It seems pretty doable for small offices

[@dangersquirrel4868]

How small do you think this could get and still work. It would be cool to charge my cellphone with table scraps.

[@Ludifant]

Quite brilliant

[@n1mbusmusic606]

what are the actual numbers though. how much compost would you need to regularly power your home with this type of a setup? is it even possible? if you lived on a farm would it be?

[@darkii5889]

1,4 m3 of gaz for 8Kw generator, you need a large bio digesteur if you live in a farm its perfect

[@WildWestTrail]

I'm getting one.

[@41laureen]

We have used the kzbin.infoUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!

[@liammorgans7329]

Would this be damaging to the generator if you dont filter and scrub the gas first? Could you run your car on this?

[@william38022]

Pretty cool 😎👍😊👍

[@AndrewKvochick]

Why not just use something to squish the gas bladder instead of the electric pump? Like a bucket of water on top of an inner tube?

[@AndrewKvochick]

Oh and this video is great btw

[@bryanroshan7787]

thats actually doable if you put a pressure regulator at the outlet !

[@btekwindsolar]

I believe the engine vacuum is all you need.

[@5.56_Media]

Can you show us how you fill your system with biogas?

[@katyparham8765]

Beautiful

[@seniormpareke9245]

How may I contact you? I'd like to learn more on this.

[@johnpreston1008]

I'm in New Orleans and we just got hit with Oda, could you walk me through some specifics about this set up?

[@UKsystems]

You have to be very careful with the ratings of things as a loss of the time it appears safe until it isn’t

[@douglaswindsor120]

I've tried to find the conversation kit and so far haven't been able to the message on Google says it's a defunct company I'm interested in finding out if I buy the kit if I can get extra snorkels for it as I would like to run my lawnmower snowblower and generator on natural gas to start with eventually getting a digester up and running and switching to methane lts interesting that when gasoline was 50 ¢ a gallon back in the mid seventies propane conversion was very popular but now that gasoline prices are close to 5 dollars a gallon it's not seen any more back then we converted our trucks over and had our own filling station installed in our yard by using used parts to convert the trucks it wasn't that bad a price and when we set up the filling station we had a choice the propane supplier provided us with a 500 gallon tank for no cost and we had a choice of pumps a hand operated one for no cost or an electric one for under 4 hundred dollars main cost was for running the power out since then I've had two other propane vehicles and I found quite a difference in price for propane and how many miles per tank I got normally I'd have thought it was how full they filled the tank but both vehicles had auto stop so filling up when the auto stop shut down the fill you couldn't add any more fuel to the tank in our original trucks if we had a long road trip we could fill past the 80% no chance of the fuel expanding and popping off the pressure relief valve but I'd love to start converting my small engines to propane to start with also I've seen a lot of videos on building digester and a lot use plastic bags to keep the gas in and need a way to get pressure for running small engines on some use pumps and some weights on the bladder some use a tank within a tank I'm planning a 2 tank system attach the bottom bung of one tank to the bottom of the the bottom of a second tank above the top of the gas tank and filling the bottom gas reservoir that way as the gas tank fills up with gas it forces the water up to the top tank and the weight of the water provides the pressure I have other ideas for the digester build and will try them when the ground thaws

[@lydiahkagure2859]

awesome insights

[@ivaylopenchev9497]

Thank you!

[@LocdnessMomster]

With biogas does all the waste decompose into gas or will the container holding the solids need to be cleaned?

[@Jdjsksjdhdj]

can you feed this back into the power grid.

[@apinhmi]

Does it work for a Diesel engine generator? Great video

[@MrNeboff]

You'll need to do some modification for it to run on diesel.. as you know diesel doesn't use spark plugs

[@helpinghand6037]

How long will a generator run on a queen size matters full And can you use a 20 lbs Propane to store your Biogas

[@robl8247]

Nice 👌

[@whyh]

Is this a regular diesel/gasoline generator? Or does it have to be a biogas generator?

[@woodyahh2110]

Walla free energy sort of

[@Wolf227lax]

So many questions. What is the methane % of your biogas? What is the moisture content in your biogas? What modifications if any did you make to the tri fuel adapter?

[@theaussienurseflipper.8113]

U got run filters . 1 at least water, better with drain cleaner in it. 2 a clay kitty litter, to dry if. 3. Steel wool, to get rid of the chemical which eat all metal parts. The rotten egg smell.

[@dr.suryanarayanan9256]

@@theaussienurseflipper.8113 Hi there! I am in the process of constructing the Digester. The scrubbers are ready (first water, then cat litter, then steel wool). But tell me why I should use drain cleaner (what chemicals are in it) and why. Thanks a million!! 🙏🏾 Greetings from Berlin, Germany, Dr. Surya Narayanan, MD, DDS

[@apinhmi]

Does it work for a Diesel engine generator?

[@hoosiersolarpower974]

hello i have an 250 gallon IBC Tank that i have turned into a BioDigester if i put a 35 gallon trash can of Cow Manure and 35 gallons of water together as a slurry 70 gallons and 180 gallons of space remaining, how much addition water should i add to the tank all feeder and and exits are on top of tank. Thank you any advice is helpful.

[@medina3420]

do you have a lInk to the Conversion kit?

[@missouripatriot6926]

Would this just hook up to a already propane gen with some fittings

[@yuxinsong1544]

When you switch from gasoline fuel to biogas, the generator is most likely running because of residual gasoline in the tank. Could you make it longer?

[@danielculver2209]

He demonstrated how the generator was running on biogas...

[@jshabaahang]

Good idea Good good cool...

[@saidhamisi2795]

Thank you

[@BrianPiccardo-c1y]

Can it power lights?

[@MichealOzumah-yb6dn]

Why do we need a mattress

[@threeowls369]

What’s the actual name for the quad tri fuel kit please?

[@nicolaswalsh]

you could use your dog poop to make biogas and then turn that to electricity to power an electric vehicle. 😂 tell people your car is powered by “dog shit” or even better find a bull and then you have a bull shit powered car 🤠😆 some people say electric cars are BS and then you can say literally! 😂

[@devono7230]

Rosebud on the Mornington peninsula?

[@whyistheworldsowicked]

Please what is that device you said works with, petrol, gasoline and in our case biogas.... you said it cost $200..what is this device call did hear you well please

[@TheKlink]

Could you start it on woodgas?

[@paxtoncargill4661]

I wonder if you could turn the biogas into a pressurized liquid to store or sell

[@selectedsolutions]

At very low temperature at high pressure that can be liquify

[@El-Diablo-Blanco]

Are you not concerned about the methane igniting in the pump? I'm not sure if those are intrinsically safe...

[@nialbell8301]

It cant. Look up the fire triangle.

[@El-Diablo-Blanco]

@@nialbell8301 Methane is an explosive gas. Explosives unless trying to be initiated, are kept away from heat, shock, or friction. There is air outside of the pump, the pump is producing both heat and friction, and as it isn't rated for explosive gas's suggests there might be concern. I don't think that the fire triangle has much of anything to do with the safety of the pump as it does the outcome if it leaks.

[@nialbell8301]

Methane is an explosive gas... when mixed with oxygen. There is only Methane in the pump.

[@shanerobson4920]

What's the run time on your set up please

[@christmadueke9130]

Thank u

[@Nofretari]

Is it biogas such methionine or is it biodiesel?

[@catcat7835]

Ignition and gasoline intake should be automated, generator start and stop shoul be automated, when LiOn battery pack should be recharged.

[@ziaulbadrzia7297]

how much large bio gas system is required for running system 15 to 18 hours per day??

[@clemensf6159]

About 33 cubic meters that you would have to feed about 825kg of cow dung per day.

[@الوزير-د9ص]

@@clemensf6159 That's a lot for one day

[@tjk355]

This setup is really only for an emergency where power is needed in a pinch and no other fuel is available.

[@Galv140577]

Maybe you should filter the gas? I thought raw biogas has hydrogen choride or something in it that smells like rotten eggs?

[@dansw0rkshop]

He probably is filtering it before the mattress. It's hydrogen sulfide and you filter it through steel wool (the really fine stuff) to get rid of it.

[@carlotrese6996]

can we have tri fuel kit?

[@johnstonposidio2168]

will this work 24/7?

[@maniaenjoyer]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOO

[@beeorganic]

Please correct me if I've erred here but isn't biogas the same as natural gas... i.e. methane?

[@richardjbarlow]

yes you're correct that's what's in the bladder/sleeping mattress

[@hardylioness]

No. Natural gas realases methane and carbon monoxide into the atmosphere, amongst other hideous nitrates. Biogas is methane which when burnt into a oxygen rich environment releases carbon dioxide and water vapour. It's not toxic.

[@NickFoxQuixand]

natural gas from the grid or bottle is usually high purity methane >97%. Biogas usually contains ~40% carbon dioxide ~60% methane so requires larger bore injectors for a cooker or BBQ and different carburation for an engine. There is also a small amount of hydrogen sulphide ~1% which creates sulphuric acid when it comes into contact with water so can cause long term problems with equipment if not removed.

[@lylepg86]

How much run time can you get with a full mattress of biogas?

[@alexanderholthoer8972]

I would estimate 600dm3 biogas = 3dm3 diesel. The generator probably runs at 2-4dm3 diesel/hour under a low load. You get 45 minutes if not pushing the engine too hard?

[@zahariburgess3660]

couldn't you compress the biogas for storage

[@dieabsolutegluckskuche5174]

The question is why? I mean you can, but if it isn't needed you are wasting electricity to compress your biogas.

[@tjk355]

@@dieabsolutegluckskuche5174 space saving . It probably safer in a solid container too.

[@livewild2559]

Is this a big scam.?

[@roygiehtbrock9124]

How long would a queen size mattress last on this generator?

[@jasonb6101]

Fs😂

[@juanlugo7492]

Internal combustion engine is not the best to get energy out of biogas I’ve seen Radial steam engine that would work much better and less complicated to get electricity

[@RandyRandersonthefamous]

That may be true but where the heck am I going to buy one of those?! I can get a generator at harbor freight

[@juanlugo7492]

@@RandyRandersonthefamous there is a company that makes them here in the US cyclone power technologies

[@juanlugo7492]

@@RandyRandersonthefamous Cyclone power generator Any thing that Burns can run it

[@brianmclane8922]

@@juanlugo7492 company appears out of business. No way to buy. Seems scammy

[@xxxlxxl7593]

Neat

[@rongray4118]

I wanted to see it operate under load...bummer!

[@pedersteenberg2010]

BIOGAS CARS HYDRO CARS FOR THE PLANET EARTH

[@sreeparthokumar5786]

Runing hour time

[@madladpjl]

put the biogas threw a scrubber saw a guy make on his channel part 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKKViJuZq9Jle7c part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3vMan2ro9eGgrs handy to take out the CO2 and the hydrogen sulfide thay can ruin the engine

[@YAKALELEBUSHCRAFT]

When the new generation will have cows just for they dung. 🤔

[@gregridgeway8790]

That was pretty well presented sir. I wonder, are you scrubbing your gas? I'm thinking not as you mentioned the wetness of the fuel which makes me think that you are going to make short work of killing that generator with the H2S. uscarburetion may very well have the worst website on planet earth. Although I can't vouch for their slightly higher priced products because I've never dealt with them, centuryfuelproducts has a much better website.