How well does MATTER work in my Smart Home?

Matter is finally here! Let's see how well it works on Alexa, Google, SmartThings, and HomeKit.
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0:00 Intro
0:17 How does it work?
1:39 SmartThings test
2:21 Alexa test
2:59 Google test
3:41 Apple HomeKit test
4:10 Two systems?
5:28 Pros/cons
6:20 Matter puns 🙄
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[@SmartHomeSolver]

UPDATE! I also tried Matter with Home Assistant. See that video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo I tried to refrain from the Matter puns, but it was only a matter of time before some squeaked through 😬 Here's my previous video where I explain Matter: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZSXnHWPZ7ihp6c

[@nickpanzeca7640]

Great video! Are the Meross and Eve Matter plugs available to the public yet?

[@topperdude2007]

Nice quick update that matters 😬BTW, any idea if the SmartThings v2 hub might be getting the matter update? Also, I thought the Aqara M2 hub (which I also bought after watching your videos) was also going to get matter - but didn't notice in the list of matter hubs in this video? How about Home Assistant (as that's what I plan to eventually migrate to).

[@bondjw07]

What about Home Assistant? Would have liked to have heard a little about that, even if it doesn't work there yet.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I probably should have included Home Assistant in the video but there was a lot to go over. I just made a full video adding Matter devices to Home Assistant, including Thread devices using SkyConnect. Check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo

[@SteveZaske]

You should have included adding it to Home Assistant, that would have made your video perfect

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I probably should have included Home Assistant in the video but there was a lot to go over. I just made a full video adding Matter devices to Home Assistant, including Thread devices using SkyConnect. Check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo

[@paolino4766]

I'm french and I am watching all your vidéos for a long time now and there are absolutely amazing to improve my English because of the way your talk and your accent is the best and very easy to understand

[@SethTaylor1]

I'm french and I "have been" watching all your vidéos for a long time now and "they" are absolutely amazing "for improving" my English because of the way "you" talk and your accent is the best and very easy to understand. Hope that is useful :)

[@SnakeClanProductions]

I've been dying to see matter devices in action. This looks very promising. My biggest smarthome issue has been the lack of certain devices in every ecosystem, and this might finally let me build the smarthome I've always wanted. Great video, as always, thanks!

[@DannerBanks]

Awesome first look! Thanks for the in depth testing.

[@ryanhakalmazian]

I cant wait for thing to "just work"

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Our grandchildren will probably still be saying that years from now.

[@NickF1227]

That’s why I just said screw it and bought all Lutron stuff 😂

[@taythree5549]

Todd Howard has entered the chat and would like a word with you! 😂

[@S3XYdriver]

Yeah wait till matter 2.0 comes out. All 1.0 devises suddenly won’t work😮

[@benoitferland]

@@NickF1227yes Lutron here too! Radio RA2 all the way!

[@chestnu1]

Well good to see matter devices starting to come out. Hopefully after the bugs are worked out in a few years I can start to build out a smart home.

[@samiam732]

Omg! You have no idea how much I appreciate this video. I just got some Nanoleaf essential matter bulbs. I tried for hours and hours to get them to connect to Google home and Apple home and it wouldn’t work. I googled it and it really didn’t explain it well so I couldn’t get it to work. So I looked it up on KZbin and I found your video. With your help I was finally able to figure it out and get them working on both platforms. Thank you so much for doing these videos. Very much appreciated!

[@BudsSmartHome]

Thanks Reed! Good information and great news for SmartThings users! I did not know about that Matter sharing capability. Pretty cool!

[@Andrew-rc3vh]

It is the whole point of it. I understand it is open source as well with no royalties.

[@ryanhakalmazian]

Thats so cool. You can add a device to multiple systems.

[@SmartHomeJunky]

Did you happen to try adding a matter device to the new SmartThings Station? Also can you use the station with an existing ST hub?

[@ronm6585]

Thanks Reed.

[@bluehugh2]

So pumped for matter. Would love to see you compare available matter devices once more of them hit the market. 👀

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Will do!

[@thebigdoghimself]

I'm waiting to see some matter wall switches. I was hoping for the innovelli blue but their first batch seems super buggy.

[@CPHTT]

Still trying to understand Matter... but one thing no-one talks about is device updates. Let's say I have aqara windows sensor directly on Samsung Smartthings, or an Ikea led controller on Philips HUE. Will the devices paired on other brands be updated or will it only happens if you have the bridge/hub etc. from each brand?

[@mitchellpeterson7943]

Love your videos. Are you planning to do a unboxing/review of the new Smartthings Station eventually?

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Thanks! I need to get the SmartThings Station. I forgot to order it because life just got so busy but I'm going to order some now!

[@CollinsDynasty]

I got the Tappo Matter Smart Plug and the setup was smooth just I had the same problem as you did add it to Google Home the device wouldnt work I had to add it to the tappo app (which I was trying to avoid all along) but that got it to work that way I just figured because I had the Google Home preview they are working some kinks out and matter is still very new, IDK

[@MarkSmithMCS]

Goo 🤣 Well done 👏

[@gms03sbd3]

Can you make a thread EVE plug work in Home Assistant with a Honepod? O that is too much?

[@bowenchen4908]

Is matter a substitute for that starling homebridge?

[@-Brunnen-G]

I looked at Amazon's support for adding Matter devices. I see it says nothing about using a QR code. It's kind of vague. I'm guessing you have to do the add device option in the Alexa app. I'm not really surprised.

[@1986Redfield]

Hello, sorry to ask this here, but i have seen you're videos and i think you can help me. I have lights home with dedicated remote control. I can change the light temperature and intensity. I whis to make it on my phone. To do some automation. Can you help me?

[@ONI1013.]

Is SmartThings V2 hub compatible with Matter devices?

[@JMX2323]

Is there an update on matter or is it still 1.0?

[@theattorney6072]

Hello, philips hue has now released official matter update'. Any video coming about it? I have high hopes about it, as regards the alexa limitation with one hue bridge. Will matter solve this ? Muliple hue bridges is now possible with alexa with matter update ? Thx

[@sloppyjoe1315]

You need to do some of the new wyze cameras and mesh routers I would really like what you think about them

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I do need to look at those, thanks for the suggestion!

[@nute923]

Does this mean I won't need the Aqara hub to use Aqara sensors?

[@dankelley9361]

The fact that you can’t see the Energy Monitoring except in the Eve app makes this device a Don’t Matter!

[@thebundok]

But does it work in Home Assistant?

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I probably should have included Home Assistant in the video but there was a lot to go over. I just made a full video adding Matter devices to Home Assistant, including Thread devices using SkyConnect. Check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo

[@mariuszarszylo1476]

"Keeps it easy and simple" My mind is already spinning on what was just said prior to that.

[@JamieAlban]

does that multi-admin mode require that your first border router stays online for the second to work?

[@SmartHomeSolver]

That's a good question, I haven't tried that out yet but I will. My guess is that it doesn't require the first border router to stay online but I could be wrong.

[@Tater1722]

I've heard that matter devices won't currently work with routines. Is that true?

[@publicmail2]

I use emporia devices for fuse panel and wifi switches, best bang for buck imo.

[@Picklgreen]

I bought the meross mss115 matter plugs and not a single one of the six I bought would connect with homekit!

[@8Arachne8]

Hoping all this gets where I dream of it in the next 5 or so years. Plan to build my retirement home, and I’d like it to matter. Sorry, but seriously, every outlet and switch being smart and thread, compatible with any system I want. Every door hardwired with contact sensors so no battery changes. House takes care of itself so I can enjoy retirement. That’s what I’m looking for. And it’s getting close. Looking forward to the rest of this decade, and planning my retirement home.

[@davidputt4638]

We need another update! :)

[@Post_Oak_]

I hope these are better than the Kasa smart plugs. I am CONSTANTLY having to unplug them and plug them back in because they are not responding. Incredibly frustrating.

[@pureetofu]

Have you tried adding Matter devices to Home Assistant? Just received my SkyConnect USB stick but I do not have any Matter devices to test with at this time.

[@EmilePolka]

you can just watch other youtubers about that, but the context here is matter support for HA is very dodgy right now with reports that for some odd reason, you cant add a matter device directly to home assistant without any matter based hub exist on your wifi network it also requires IPv6 as well so if you lack that, your SOL.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I probably should have included Home Assistant in the video but there was a lot to go over. I just made a full video adding Matter devices to Home Assistant, including Thread devices using SkyConnect. Check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo

[@pureetofu]

@@SmartHomeSolver Awesome! I can't wait to watch it.

[@alexsmarthome]

It is not clear what the device manufacturers agreed on then, if the socket is defined differently in different systems and different properties are available. It is hard to believe in the future of this idea.

[@flopflop396]

2:44 i’m sorry can i order a elsa cape for you?

[@yoosufismath2944]

Hi. Lets say i have an amazon echo 4th gen that is thread border ready. But i prefer smartthings. Does that mean i can now setup and control echo from smartthings. No ryt ? 😅 Also since matter works in LAN and smartthings is cloud based does that mean when my phone is connected to the home router then i can control devices on my smartthings via LAN and does that mean using my mobile data or outside wifi i cannot control matter via WAN on smartthings ?

[@LeioServer]

What camera do you record your videos with?

[@SmartHomeSolver]

This whole video was shot on the Sony A7iv with the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 lens. I did a studio tour about the cameras and stuff I use behind the scenes kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXnWqaykmMR8ncU

[@jamesdiman]

One thing I noticed is that you were adding devices directly to SmartThings or Google, but not into the device app like Kasa. This was preventing you from adding to another service until you found the multi-admin feature. Does Matter take out the need to put the device in the device maker app, like Kasa first? When I add devices to Kasa, it then automatically adds them to the Google Home and SmartThings app, since they were trusted and I have my login with them.

[@Matt_H_]

But what about those that are brand-agnotic but don't want 20 different apps on their phone?

[@davebetts]

What a guy!

[@faengelm]

Is Matter working on Hubitat?

[@gorenyc]

Great video for us Matter noobs!

[@BrandonDoyleMN]

Great video and explanation, it’s worth noting you may have to turn off 5Ghz on your router in order to get the Meross plug to connect. The eve plug is great for Apple Home, thanks for the tip about multi-admin!

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Thanks Brandon! I saw chatter about turning off 5Ghz for the Meross plug but it connected just fine with Apple and SmartThings when I tried it so I'm not sure if I was just getting lucky or what.

[@Rockovissi]

I have an Echo Show 5 which got Matter support (no thread). I bought a Wiz bulb which just received Matter support. Guess what? Alexa adds the device but says “There is a problem”. It adds as a normal device but has problems over Matter. It also duplicates the device, one normal and one Matter. Smart home!!!

[@SmartHomeHASHTAGS]

Alexa set up: Is an iPad okay to use if you don't have an iPhone to set up device?

[@JoshNulled]

Wonder how Samsung Phones handles it versus the Pixel

[@Tom-lu9gj]

No home assistant test?

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I have the Home Assistant SkyConnect www.home-assistant.io/skyconnect/ but I don't think it support Thread yet.

[@petertgreen]

@@SmartHomeSolver It looks like you had been testing the Meross ms115 which is actually Matter over WiFi. I have been able to get this device working directly in Home Assistant as a native Matter device. The only issue I had was I need to set up iPv6 on the host that has HA and I need IPv6 enabled on my network, firewall and router. It shows up as a simple on/off swtich with Smart Plug Mini by Meross Firmware: 9.3.26 Hardware: 9.0. I do not have any Thread devices in my network.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Okay I was wrong, SkyConnect can support Thread and I made a video about it plus testing Matter devices in Home Assistant kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo

[@alonsobrito3926]

I believe Amazon hasn't enabled the matter over thread option, just matter over WiFi. Btw please make a video of matter on home assistant, i have the sky connect but I don't have any matter devices

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Okay I just made that video, check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo

[@alonsobrito3926]

@@SmartHomeSolver great, thanks.

[@geekyboytop]

I think Matter will be great especially if you want to not be locked into a google or apple or whatever system. I can't count the number of times that I have been like - I can't get this smart home device because it does not work with homekit.

[@thatbikerdude.official]

No Home assistant sky connect??? 😭 Not YET anyways 🙃 Mine is set up and ready to go though!

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I probably should have included Home Assistant in the video but there was a lot to go over. I just made a full video adding Matter devices to Home Assistant, including Thread devices using SkyConnect. Check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo

[@thatbikerdude.official]

@@SmartHomeSolver haha it’s ok dude! I knew a TON of people would be complaining about home assistant not being in the video and so I had to join in on the fun! Love your content and I appreciate the newer channel as well! Keep up the good work! Your videos are literally what got me to move to Home Assistant. I can’t believe I stayed with smartthings for so many years! I think it’s because it was so bad, I was just defeated and gave up 😂🤣.

[@moritzi]

Cant wait for the matter plugs with the qr code besides the pins, unable to connect it without taking a picture first to scan it once its plugged in

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I think most will have an included card with the Matter QR code on it so it's more convienet. But I agree, terrible spot to try and scan on the plug.

[@Alnilam1973]

Didn't zigbee promise pretty much everything that matter does? Didn't that standard fall apart because corporates implemented it there way? I dont get why so many youtubers think it's some kind of magic bullet, it's just yet another standard that companies will abuse until it's as broken as all the others

[@SmartHomeSolver]

If this was just Thread then yes it would be similar to how things were with Zigbee. This is more than just Thread and makes it so companies CAN NOT implement it in their own way. That's why it's a big deal because it's standardizing it.

[@Alnilam1973]

Ok the standard thing, watching this video it appears that each manufacturer is already messing with it, did each manufacturer just work or was there a different process to connecting to each of them and did they all offer the same features? Eh nope... just like all the other standards in home automation history the manufacturers are already starting to break it to incentivise sticking to their brand, shame really the dream was nice but the reality seems to be same sh1t different standard. That said I really hope I'm wrong and these things will get sorted quickly

[@TeamGB-Diving]

I have been waiting like everyone else for matter to arrive. Amazon haven’t updated the Echo devices with it yet here in the UK,it is supposed to be next month. Great video Reed, keep up the fab work. 👍🏻👍🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻

[@ryamelp]

This sounds worse. So with all my TP link plus I can ask my Alexa, Google, or Siri to turn off X plug. If I pair a matter plug with Siri I wont be able to ask Alexa or Google to control X plug?

[@markli5945]

FOR that MATTER!

[@si-smarthome]

it will take a while until matter supports most types of devices and we get rid of the old stuff. For sure simple smart plugs are the best type to replace first.

[@dannywinget]

Who knew that SmartThings would be the easiest 🤣

[@Mr.Pingvin]

Im waiting the matter update in my divecs

[@jtaraskus]

I put all on appple (no matter devices jet) and control all in EVE app, and it's best for now

[@Hasse-swe]

I dont have a stramdeck. I wanted a cheaper option. And I found it. It is an app for android called "touch portal" that you can use with (in my case) Windows 10. And it is an open source project. I have not found any plugin for Home assistant yet. But both are open source projects so i think it is a matter of time before it come. But it works with Philips Hue. I am using the payed version of it that cost alot less then a stramdeck. About 15 USD. You can use it on a pad as well and customize how many rows you want. Very powerful alternative to stramdeck. Its not good for the battery to have it plugged in all the time. I am trying to find a script that charge the phone from 20% up to 80% via a smartplug.

[@Nur__]

I was waiting to see how it worked with your home assistant setup. welp!

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I probably should have included Home Assistant in the video but there was a lot to go over. I just made a full video adding Matter devices to Home Assistant, including Thread devices using SkyConnect. Check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo

[@JoeSchmoe24]

what about home assistant?

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I probably should have included Home Assistant in the video but there was a lot to go over. I just made a full video adding Matter devices to Home Assistant, including Thread devices using SkyConnect. Check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo

[@usmcboyd]

What about Home Assistant?

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I probably should have included Home Assistant in the video but there was a lot to go over. I just made a full video adding Matter devices to Home Assistant, including Thread devices using SkyConnect. Check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo

[@Schnabulation]

No Home Assistant?

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I probably should have included Home Assistant in the video but there was a lot to go over. I just made a full video adding Matter devices to Home Assistant, including Thread devices using SkyConnect. Check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo

[@hpdunn]

honestly beyond like a 900 square foot apartment, thread is not very ideal yet, has a long way to go before its really ready for prime time IMO. have had an epic nightmare with it in my home.

[@charlesxavier1904]

What's a 5 speakers out of 5 speakers when the speaker doesn't exist?

[@calex7991]

I know it doesn't "matter" , but the word matter was mentioned 37 times 😂😂😂

[@thomaskidd8027]

Is Matter backwards compatible? Doesn't seem practical to buy all new smart home devices just to get Matter to work. Seems the entire purpose was to make items compatible so we wouldn't need to buy new things

[@SmartHomeSolver]

There are existing devices that will get firmware updates to work with Matter. Many of those already work with the majority of systems so I would say Matter applies more to new devices going forward. You don't need to replace your existing devices with Matter ones though.

[@Bigglare]

Great video. I have to give apple a 6 out of 5 because it works with everything fro Day 0. Home made devices, hue bridge, Eve energy, Tapo plugs.

[@zunfren]

I wouldn't describe smart things as rocky. Yes they have been transitioning the back, but my experience has been anything but.

[@mr_DIY]

No home assistant? 😢

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I probably should have included Home Assistant in the video but there was a lot to go over. I just made a full video adding Matter devices to Home Assistant, including Thread devices using SkyConnect. Check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo

[@mr_DIY]

@@SmartHomeSolver thank you

[@ta1k2t0ny]

dude, the eyebrows bro

[@liammasonsschoolofficial]

Just use the smartthings skill on Alexa the you can use matter with Alexa

[@michaelwerbick]

The only thing that "matters" is that all devices sold will work with Apple or Android platforms. Amazon... well, to me who cares as they do not make phones so make your products work with both Apple and Android.

[@MaxGoddur]

Not a Home Assistant fan?

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I probably should have included Home Assistant in the video but there was a lot to go over. I just made a full video adding Matter devices to Home Assistant, including Thread devices using SkyConnect. Check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC0Y5aticyDmpo

[@pawlos101]

Does matter devices expand your zigbee network ?

[@thomasottvideos]

We've had multiple big countries coming together to support "world peace" for the common good. But egos and agendas kept getting in the way. Now we have multiple big corporations coming together to support "Matter" for the common good. Oh well, we can always keep hoping for world peace. °

[@mccalljeff]

I have been phasing out all of my Alexa devices anyway.

[@horaciohermosillo3417]

I'll stick with zwave and zigbee

[@stoneobscurity]

somebody count how many times he says "matter"

[@pdmark311]

doesn't help that amazon laid off half the alexa team

[@EnriqueRomagosa]

No Apple, no party

[@kevinpoinsett]

I use Amazon Alexa, have for years, not sure why I should even care about Matter. I have a multitude of options to choose, great prices, and the Alexa app is so much better than Google Home app or Apple's Home app, which is just god-awful. And, yay, now all Matter devices have a hideous QR Code on them, thanks Apple 🤮

[@ONI1013.]

Think one of the biggest disadvantages are for people who already have a ton of perfectly functioning non-Matter devices set up on their smart home eco system. I have over 50 Z-Wave, Zigbee, and Wifi devices all setup in my Smart Home that has been built out over the years. Pretty big financial investment to get it setup the way I have over the years, and really not sure if I want to swap all my devices to Matter now.

[@SethTaylor1]

Why would you have to swap everything out? As opposed to just slowly migrating?

[@ONI1013.]

@@SethTaylor1 - Whether I switch them quickly or slowly, the point is why would I have to do it at all, if all my current devices are functioning?

[@SethTaylor1]

@@ONI1013. you don't! Matter works alongside your old devices.

[@ONI1013.]

@@SethTaylor1 Understood. But if I don’t need any NEW devices to be added, then what is the incentive to swap any of my old devices?

[@Ra-Hul-K]

early 😃

[@SmartHomeSolver]

🏆

[@philipperostin]

We are almost in november and matter is still not implemented at large scale. Its BS as always

[@talljohn5350]

Why so nit picky with home kit? That monitoring for Eve plugs was never a feature in HomeKit before. It’s definitely not something I would’ve expected to show up just because it’s working via matter. Matter is what we need and deserve. Matter combined with thread solves the two problems smart homes had. Compatibility and fast reliable communication. I would also realistically expect some bugs, especially now, and I fully expect them to be fixed while seeing more/better functionality.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I think everything worked great with Apple. I was being nit picky about them missing the auto detect feature which is small and not a big deal. Besides that it works great. The Eve plug was not a HomeKit issue but something lacking with Matter right now. SmartThings has the support for energy monitoring in their system so it would have been nice to have that available.

[@warmonked]

Bah, "extremely new" is not a legit reason for products, that they're taking money for, to barely work.

[@artieartya]

This is really poor start and implementation. Hate when companies realize trash that doesn’t work half baked. I miss Howard Hughes so bad need to clone this man and make him CEO and decision making of all things tech.

[@vette4life518]

Apple is terrible. Getting worse with age.

[@Drewheeler]

Amazing video, but the dad of humor at the end was cringe enough to almost make me dislike. Still gave a like. But the feeling was still there.

[@philipperostin]

Miss A and Mr G still use the cloud in the background to register what you bought and how they can send you more advertising, thats why it fails.

[@lewiskelly14]

The fact you'll still need multiple apps, and now this thread thing... just a last of bollocks to me

[@1997Banane]

You dont?

[@lewiskelly14]

@The next Kanzler Watch the video. If you wanted that devices energy use details then you'll need the manufacturers app. If you have 10 brands of devices you will still end up with 10 apps. Matter doesn't matter and has zero value for me.

[@1997Banane]

@@lewiskelly14 Well need is not really true for the basic functions. The Matter CEO was asked when matter was announced: Why only so few devices and functions? He said if they won’t start somewhere they won’t ever start. It’s a evolving standard and that was HomeKit and so on at the start as well.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

@1997Banane is right that Matter has to start somewhere. I'm showing the current shortcomings of Matter in the video so you can be aware of them. However, Matter is going to get more features with releases scheduled every quarter I believe. So after some time we will probably get those features added. Getting all the companies to agree how something should work requires a lot of effort and time.