How well does the Marantz 2230 compare to a pre-vintage Yamaha DSP-R992 - 120 bucks for…

[@bigmacfullerton7870]

I have had a Yamaha amp since the 70s and I love them. The only one that has broke I fried trying to vacuum dust out of it. Leave the dust, the Yammy will run forever. I have an A-S801 now and it absolutely cranks

[@kappandrew1]

Stay tuned… I have a few more yammies in the mix… one is an absolute tank…

[@mondoenterprises6710]

I've always wondered about this issue--which sounds better. Rarely covered topic in hifi. I find a similar issue with dacs v. cd players of this era. The improvement seems marginal between 90's era Denon cd player and smsl dac. Thanks!

[@kappandrew1]

You nailed it. I love listening to editorials and dialog but it’s so hard to gauge “how does it sound”. I picked Marantz as the benchmark because their sound is fairly consistent throughout the last 50 years (with a few exceptions). Most people have heard a Marantz…. I hope! So, this serves as a reference, anchor and gauge… however you want to say it. Man, I’m listening to one of the upcoming receivers and holy crap! I can’t believe I picked this thing up for 200 clams…

[@RobBjorgan]

Yamaha is a diverse manufacturer Audio Live and studio equipment Musical instruments Motorcycle Off road equipment Marine equipment Anything they put their logo on is well engineered and offer longevity

[@kappandrew1]

I agree. They tend to play closer to quality than getting too tied up aesthetics. I’ve had a Yamaha motorcycle, trombone, stereo, piano, canned tomatoes… those were delicious

[@AlexMitchell-i1g]

Hitachi too at one time. Now they mostly make trains and excavators but at one time they were making all sorts including TVs, audio equipment, VCRs, computers, power tools etc.

[@boneseyyl1060]

I had a very similar model to this Yamaha back in the late 90's. The reason was I was moving up to dolby digital from a pro-logic Denon Receiver that I absolutely loved. I had a 7 model which put out 100 watts for around $700 new at the time. But I believe the R line of models by Yamaha were the low end units that were sold in the big box retailers of the day. I actually bought mine at a furniture retailer, lol, back when that was a thing. If you check on the net, I don't think you will see many reviews for the R series because most reviews went to the upscale lines that they had. These were largely ignored. Anyway long story short, I immediately disliked the sound compared to my Denon. It really sounded artificial to me, compared to the Denon. Clean and a good bottom end, but just thin and lifeless to me. I found the dialogue intelligibility for movies quite a downgrade as well. It had all the DSP modes that Yamaha was really pushing at the time. They were completely useless and sounded terrible. Sometimes I used the Jazz DSP for some music but mostly I kept them off. I think after a year and a bit I realized I had made a mistake and went back to a higher end Denon. I sold it to a friend who took it off my hands for 50 bucks. But I was glad to see it go. They aren't terrible receivers by any stretch but they are the cheaper built ones. Its evident in the weight of them. The DSP modes are useless, but the sound is clean and punchy I just never found them to sound that musical. At 120 bucks for 130 watts you can't go wrong and they aren't bad for home theater. But the one I had turned me off Yamaha amps for life. I never went back.

[@kappandrew1]

I have some Denons coming up… stay tuned… you may like what I have to say…

[@brucetungsten5714]

I had a tuned Yamaha AX-570 which had nearly all parts exchanged for really good ones but I didn't like the sound. The NAD 3020 ran circles around it soundwise.

[@kappandrew1]

Ohhhhh…. Yes, an NAD is in this series… stay tuned.

[@quebecforce111]

it's weird but best of the best for sound are Harman Kardon late 70's amp HK 503 and HK 505 and Harman Kardon from the 80's HK385i or HK ps650

[@kappandrew1]

Stay tuned… HK is coming up… I there are several models

[@brunoprimas1483]

I'm sure the Yamaha sounds great. (Until you need to fix it)

[@bigmacfullerton7870]

It’s been my experience that Yamaha’s last forever

[@brunoprimas1483]

@bigmacfullerton7870If it was true, everyone would ONLY buy Yamaha equipment.

[@Roof_Pizza]

@@brunoprimas1483 Not everyone is as smart as we are.

[@thunderbird66613]

I think Yamahas sound great but most Yamahas ive had, had issues. Only Yammies I own now are their speakers

[@brunoprimas1483]

@thunderbird66613 The 2230 is relatively easy to repair/restore. That model of Yamaha is much more difficult.

[@geoffreyivie]

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[@kappandrew1]

Wait for the next one… lol