How West Point Punishes Cadets

[@WBDE]

A degree from West Point is a golden ticket and very highly valued in the corporate world. Once you decide to leave the Army you will never have a problem getting a good job

[@Grim67894]

Really? Even with any major?

[@Grim67894]

@@jonathanweiss5080 Thanks for the non-response POG

[@unfairtrout]

@@Grim67894 its like going to harvard, i' d even say west point is harder to get into

[@BenJRiepe-vm1kt]

WBDE if you survived West Point you will survive every other job

[@zfilmmaker]

WBDE that’s not exactly true, just a West Point degree is no different from a regular college or university degree. Companies want experienced military operational officers with proven leadership experience. Taking leadership courses and actually leading men/women while motivating, training and promoting is totally different and what attracts companies. That’s what the corporate world needs, are leaders that can motivate and design creative ways to increase productivity of employees. Amazon is a good example, within their leadership roles are many former military officers.

[@linp3632]

I had an Lt. westpointer who seemed to really hate working at s3, and the Army in general. Pretty sure he got out now, point is, we are got along, even though I’m enlisted, we both see how frustrating and dumb things get, and had a common ground in that...

[@dermie52]

S3 is Training and Operations, for those who were curious.

[@SaltiDawg2008]

Can you put together an intelligent sentence? Paragraph?

[@srikariyer8544]

@@SaltiDawg2008 cmon

[@Wormhole798]

What a phenomenal waste of time making the cadets walk back and forth with a piece...I know tradition.

[@SaltiDawg2008]

Yeah, at Navy we used a Cat N Nine Tails and flogged the misbehavers!

[@hunterharrison8635]

Cadets have such a tight schedule, making them waste what possible free time they do have is a major part of the punishment.

[@marymargaretapplin8510]

@@hunterharrison8635 VMI has something similar. Do athletes have to walk PTs or are they exempt?

[@hunterharrison8635]

@@marymargaretapplin8510 They have sitting hours, they sit in a room and do homework. Its a way better deal, you also get that if you are on a profile that allows it.

[@wingsfan1450]

Regular army units have harder punishments for privates. Walking pointlessly it half your career. Hardly punishment.

[@rembrant34]

Thank you for an amazing job of sharing the benefits of personal writing! You are so right on every point. I did the same thing in college and it was the only thing that kept me sane. I learned that ink is a wonderful memory cement when it comes in contact with paper, and when life gets weird and you need to sort things out there's no greater (or less expensive) therapist in the world than a pen and blank page. I hope the whole world sees this video and takes your lessons to heart.

[@mike89128]

On another site, I read the account of an enlisted Russian language specialist who had a rough time learning the language at the Defense Language Institute. Things got better for him when he accidently dropped his flash cards into a deep rain puddle, soaking most of them. He bought a stack of index cards and started transcribing the old to the new. He realized that by doing this it made him concentrate better, he gained better retention and his grades improved. Seems writing focuses the mind.

[@Bernie0481USMC]

Great video. Thank you. Served in USMCR for 8 years, first 2 alongside The Citadel students, graduates and professors. Good on you.

[@kirtjoe283]

Can you do a video basically showing (wow, well you aren't the only one who uses "basically" too much, huh) all the things you are issued at West Point, and what they are for?

[@mfisher1952]

Very, very informative. Thank you, sir. Hardly my perspective, which makes it even more valuable. I've never learned as much from folks with the same perspective and environment that I have. And West Point is about as different from my background as it can get.

[@katblickety]

West Point day in the life, tattoo meanings

[@WillScaryForCandy]

And I thought some of things we did in OCS were ridiculous...

[@Aikidoman06]

OCS is a different world. Class 4-84. Later I was a TAC and you see somethings are time-burners, others reinforce a lesson.

[@user-by3pv4mt6s]

One weekend we spent all Saturday and Sunday going round camp picking up twigs and we had to make a big line scaling the perimeter fence, then we had to collect them and put them in size order, I can't even guess how many there were but it took hours. There was no reason for it they just wanted to fuck us about

[@Aikidoman06]

My class spent all non-training time for two weeks cleaning, painting and fixing up everything in the Brigade area for a visit from the Sec of Defense. On the day of his visit he flew over in a Blackhawk.....

[@anthonyniemiec9409]

Texas A&M makes its cadets march in a block when they get punished with tours lol

[@Justin_Taylor]

West Point only does that if there are too many people marching

[@anthonyniemiec9409]

@@Justin_Taylor On the plus side (excluding Norwich) none of the SMCs will ever have to do tours in the snow.

[@waynek6731]

I started writing down things so I could rationalize them and it helped a lot thank you

[@politicalstatus197]

I use an iPad with an Apple Pencil to write my notes, keep my schedule on track using the calendar, etc for college.

[@stephenwilson9497]

This was helpful. I really appreciate your discussion on writing and the two types. I buy notebooks but never seem to use them. You gave me three useful ideas. Thanks! I also have enjoyed all the other videos I have seen of yours (maybe 10). I hope you keep at it well after graduation.

[@mfisher1952]

And keep sharing too, please.

[@dirtdiver1072]

He said classic West Point Fashion bro that's classic military fashion.

[@tae-whankim9821]

In Korea there are a few military academies but on the top we have 육사 YeukSa (YS), which is like Westpoint. Then there is 삼사 SamSa (SS) which is easier to get in, last ROTC (any affiliated college) The thing is as mandatory conscripts we have stereotypes about each school and most seem true. 1. YS graduates will be efficient in any approach to a mission while able to explain every detail with great knowledge, can't even argue with these guys cause Big brains. 2. SS graduates will achieve any goal by sheer will and muscle power, Enemy is raining down bullets? Run past em, Low on ammo? That's what the knife is for....those guys. 3. ROTC, just chill as fck. Treats you like that chill uncle that only comes by the holidays. Passes everything with the base minimum requirements and effort.

[@scotts1409]

Love it. Spent many an hour out there myself.

[@wolson9]

Been there, done that! I had a 6 month slug Yearling year.

[@ivi122]

1:07 lol too funny. They look like ants

[@carvellthedon]

Just saw the Arkansas flag in the back, if you’re from there, thank you for representing our state so well!

[@carvellthedon]

Thank you for your service as well!

[@Abellgard]

I went to Missouri Military Academy. I was the S-2 who was I charge of enforcing the tour system. Crazy how our punishments are so different

[@eastonbolin1674]

Justin, thought I’d say I received an appointment to USMA for the class of 2022. I’m also from Arkansas!

[@imAgreza]

Easton Bolin how did you go about doing so if you don’t mind me asking?

[@dimitrivladivikovic2518]

@@imAgreza find a senator in your state, mail him/her and go from there. Google will help you out with it

[@BrookeBerghuis]

How’s your West Point journey going so far! It’s been two years since you commented...

[@kirtjoe283]

Ayyyy! New vid from the Taylor! This day just got better!

[@eroche913]

Congratulations, you invented the diary.

[@Justin_Taylor]

Thanks man! I’m really proud of myself for it.

[@user-md7cs9yr2s]

I was Staff and Faculty there 1974-1978 Cadets were accused of Cheating on The Juice Exam. General Sidney Berry was Commandant. I had a guy on the Sky Diving team come up for review and he (in an unguarded Moment) said all that was ever Discussed among those prepping for the Exam was conjecture from a guy who knew a guy. Some guy hoped to make himself look better by making others look dirty. Sid Berry had just pinned on his third star. A more incredible Leader than General Berry does not exist. Goodpasture took over from him as I ETSed to take a Flying Job at Picatinny Arsenal. Getting in was difficult and getting through Beast Barracks was arduous Ah the memories

[@uriaharmstrong2520]

I’m heading to West Point July 1st. Came across your channel and it’s got some really good advice. Subbed, even though I won’t be able to watch at Beast lol. Thanks for putting in the little time you have to make these videos.

[@Donner906]

You shouldn't have gone there

[@haydenfoster194]

Once again, representing Arkansas! Go Army.

[@victoria8319]

Just found you in my recommended, and I loveee this video, you’re style is great and I find the topic very interesting can’t wait for more❤️

[@Gamboanoah]

I been to West Point for a field trip it’s cool

[@MaxSluiman]

Those hours on America's top military academy seem well spend! Walking...

[@julianharrison8048]

Max Sluiman Waste your leaderships time, they’ll waste yours. Part of the punishment is just that because you don’t have hardly any free time as it is and now you need to waste it walking.

[@thepatbackexperience4573]

@@julianharrison8048 Still seems pretty stupid (no offense) as I can guarantee most of those kids are overloaded with tons of other responsibilities which pretty much sets them up to fall short at least a few times I understand, you must manage time management and discipline as well as accepting the fact that West Point is a prestigious opportunity that you must be grateful for. However I think there's a difference between punishment and purposely making one's life unnecessary difficult just for the sake of "tradition". It doesn't really seem that that form of punishment is setting any long term mentally productive traits in cadets but rather lowering their self esteem and making them feel resentful But hey I plan on going there too so I guess I should shut up

[@arrowshooter11]

I got denied to SLE :( but i’m gonna try my best to pick myself back up to get into West Point

[@Justin_Taylor]

SLE only takes a very small amount of people and over half of those people don't even go to West Point in the end so don't worry about it, lots of my classmates didn't get in to SLE.

[@arrowshooter11]

Oh ok thank you, it was just a little discouraging. Did you end up having a lot of leadership experience before getting accepted?

[@Justin_Taylor]

A bit. I was pretty involved in JROTC as a high schooler so that filled that role for me.

[@arrowshooter11]

Justin Taylor oh ok thats cool, i’ve gotten most of mine through scouting but i dont know if that will be enough ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@BattlegroundsFTW]

arrowshooter11 hey man, I got denied SLE pretty early, and still got in. It’s really not a big deal.

[@s.thompson9]

Im a former cadet now serving as an enlisted man, I gotta give it to these guys for their discipline and dedication. Unfortunately I think a lot of these ppl are under the wrong impression about army life in 2019. It’s not what it use to be or what you’d expect. Can’t imagine how much more of a let down it is for non combat arms. I wish I loved it like I thought I would but as of now I probably won’t be re-enlisting or going for a commission....

[@s.thompson9]

Jeff Webb yeah I wasn’t a cadet like these guys at a military school, I was just a traditional ROTC cadet at a regular college

[@paulycoleman98]

I did this at the military college I went to, and I had to do it once, dreaded it. Never got tours again.

[@King_Todd_]

That class ring is gorgeous

[@nightgoon_0_0]

got to spend sometime at Camp Natural bridge assisting with your training. It was a cool experience and definitely explained a lot lol.

[@Justin_Taylor]

I'm very sorry about Camp Natural Bridge

[@nightgoon_0_0]

haha yeah it sucked, but thank you New York for having an Alcohol delivery service.

[@jtfike]

It is no coincidence you put writing things down in the punishment video. Lol😂

[@xPrevailingGaming]

Really cool thoughts in this video, new sub. I never tried to apply to USMA, but I will be the class of 2022 at The Citadel, SCMC. Currently working to communicate w/ people and watch videos similar to this to understand the life at military schools like yours!

[@Justin_Taylor]

Good luck!

[@Elijah31011]

My most recent OIC is an alumnus of the Citadel. No matter what he’s done in the Army he is proudest of his time at the Citadel. Just like West Point it’s an amazing network... he’s a captain getting ready to leave the Army but he has so many connections just from other alums

[@c.7197]

Are you still there?

[@xPrevailingGaming]

@@c.7197 Yes, rising senior cadet, AROTC cadet. Knob year (freshman) is rigorous. Its love/hate but I can’t wait to be back next semester.

[@SamStarrs]

New to this channel but I love the self improvment tips

[@henryjensen5364]

I was accepted into SLE about a month ago. I've watched like all of your videos (This is Not a Tank is my favorite by the way), but is there anything that I should familiarize myself with before I attend? Maybe make a video about topics/places that I, or other civilians, would not normally know? Just a suggestion...keep the videos coming-good stuff!

[@Justin_Taylor]

For SLE just have a good time and meet people. I met one of my best friends there.

[@josephstraley9205]

Henry Jensen I'm first session and am from Indiana.

[@katelohmer]

Looking back upon your high school study habits, how have you been taught at West Point to be more efficient? Can u give me a brief summary of what kind of student you were before...compared to now? Thanks🙃

[@Justin_Taylor]

Kate Smith I was definitely one of those kids who didn’t really have to try in high school. West Point was a wake up call. But that stress forces you to learn how to be more efficient but that looks different for every person and it evolves as you go through the academy. Each person is different so I think it’s important to learn that process as fast as possible.

[@katelohmer]

Justin Taylor okay awesome! Thanks so much!

[@robertisham5279]

​@@Justin_TaylorWere you not a good student in high school?

[@TheSpearPoint]

Ayeee, Arkansas flag, love to see it represented!

[@tomanderson3007]

Justin, have you ever had to do any punishment tours, and if you have what where they for?

[@Justin_Taylor]

I have sadly. I pulled an all nighter writing a paper and ended up sleeping through a class the next day which is an automatic 5 walking hours.

[@tomanderson3007]

Ouch!

[@usersniper1]

Hey mate, question regarding this punishment. Is this supposed to be like corrective training for most indiscretions? In Aus we just do drill with webbing and rifle, wondering if that's still a punishment in America.. cheers

[@Justin_Taylor]

Christiaan du Toit this is the general goto for most things. Freshmen or cadets who are still in basic training though on occasion get dropped for pushups and the like if they mess up something related to being a freshman but it’s not as common.

[@usersniper1]

Yea sweet, sounds like the chillest waste of time, guess its SNAFU for all officer cadets. Anyway thanks for the education, good luck God bless.

[@dermie52]

In the 70's we had summary punishments called Extra Drills (ED) at Duntroon. You could do them in the morning at 0600 or in the evening at 1700. More serious penalties included SOL (Stoppage of Leave): no sport, no booze, no leave. You did ED's in the morning and the evening plus Check Parades in Blues Patrol at 1000, 1300, 1900 and 2200. The worst was CB's (Confinement to Barracks). It was a combination of ED's and SOL but you did all your ED's in full combat kit including pack. The drill was strict and not a slack looking stroll as it appears here in the USMA video (with all due respect) and was commanded by a Drill Sergeant. Any mistake with your gear could just earn you more ED's. At morning ED's in winter the ice would crack under our hobnailed boots. Great fun!

[@devincazzol4254]

Justin Taylor I suggest wearing shirt gaters for that shirt at 1:25 and from my experience it keeps my shirt in nice

[@Justin_Taylor]

Tried em, they don't work on this shirt for some reason.

[@EddieLeal]

0:55 Wait just a cotton pickin' minute. Do my eyes deceive me? Looks like paint is flaking and the carpet needs some serious TLC😮😂. Two demerits for you sir! GI party this weekend. All are invited!

[@TheKraken32]

What barracks did you stay at?

[@andrewmills5211]

@justin Taylor may you show all the West Point uniforms that you are issued?

[@No_MoreFish]

Noted, no bad grades

[@tafgavanvsgzhzvsv8669]

Спасибо за ваши видео...благодаря вам я познакомилась с местом,где учится мой сын!

[@rubyperez6284]

That time lapse was pretty cool

[@domandriacchi9082]

How tf is that hair and tattoos in regs? Inch and a quarter bulk, and that hair is like 4 in

[@samotafu]

Dom Andriacchi it’s West Point, a drill instructor would’ve ripped him several new asses.

[@amogus8025]

Rocking that Arkansas flag, hell yeah brother! 🤙🤙

[@jrw17]

Damn you're from Arkasas? What part?

[@Justin_Taylor]

Little Rock, born and raised.

[@jrw17]

Justin Taylor that's awesome, I'm from the southern part, Star City, it's just south of Pine Bluff. Would you happen to know a family by the name of Kiernan?

[@Justin_Taylor]

I know one of the daughters who's a classmate of mine.

[@jrw17]

Justin Taylor that would be Lindsay, correct?

[@Justin_Taylor]

yeep

[@redleader4876]

This is… actually very surprising for West Point. This is what I thought West Point would punish cadets but 10 times worse: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oai0gX2rZ5drgck What I got here: 0:57 Also why isn’t West Point or most military academies like this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHnVhKKufNSGic0 they’re training officers, so they should get more brutal training than the enlisted training to earn that higher power

[@EmoryDotson]

That’s not the case. I did medical coverage for CST, and their “Basic” is laughable compared to regular Basic.

[@Darkfide1005]

My scout troop gose to West Point every year

[@ltdan48]

My question is how do you get hours? What can you do wrong

[@comingvengeance2725]

Actually, one of my BEST memories of Woops is walking the Area one day when a guy put his speakers out his window and started playing "Walkin' Man." It was perfect...and not just because of the song's title, either!

[@Justin_Taylor]

David Wiggins there’s an entire “hours” playlist with only songs that talk about walking

[@n.tire-lee9193]

Please, spare me. When I was in the Core, back in '37, we didn't have fancy things like... a wall!!! "Wall is boring," he says. Well, let me tell you something, when I first came to Montana in '22 we didn't have walls, we were POOR!!! Anyway, I just got a GREAT coupon from Famro Joe, for $17!!! Says I can buy anything but toilet tissue. No shit!!!!

[@aldini9329]

How are you still alive

[@TheActiveAssault]

Those uniforms are super odd

[@hardr0cker64]

we have the same idea at NMMI. I also have the same issue with uniforms, they shirts never fit .

[@ghostallied203]

Shit!!! Ohhh the warfighter veterans got to salute this new officers maybe it will feel awkward....

[@dermie52]

How are things going with IBOLC? Your followers are keen to find out.

[@splats6164]

Why are there 50+ cadets doing walking tours

[@markadar8917]

VMI and the Citidel are not bad at all with all f beneits as well.

[@gabrielmiller3493]

i was just excepted into STEM program at west point

[@jokereathunter7006]

Gabriel Miller accepted?

[@Wormhole798]

Gabriel Miller, How, you can't even write.

[@otakamerd1220]

Gabriel Miller Somehow I doubt that

[@dermie52]

@@otakamerd1220 Maybe he means he didn't get in, he was "excepted"...

[@ivi122]

Sunray Major Lol 😆

[@n.i.t.f919]

From your experience how hard is it to get into wet point ?

[@judy8117]

YES,lol how many pens? I do to write it down!🐾♥️🐾♥️🐾♥️☘☘

[@mochithedog5237]

Those pins you have on those black loops I have one of those because I am a Boy Scout and I went to the 2018 West Point Camporee I shot a gun :0

[@robertahle5045]

Very cool. I live part time in fort Montgomery.

[@queefedworm]

went completely off the title of the video but that's not a bad thing

[@queefedworm]

4 years later, brought here again by the algorithm

[@cwilson000]

what are the offenses that may cause someone to march time?

[@Justin_Taylor]

Anything from being late to class to drinking in the barracks.

[@thearmsman4661]

Excessive demerits is one.

[@mdmarko]

Way past time to close all military academies. Turn out too few officers, costs much more than ROTC/OCS.

[@Justin_Taylor]

Found the guy who couldn’t get in.

[@lexybeck7]

How long do they have to march back and forth?

[@Justin_Taylor]

Depends on what they did. Can range from 5 to 100 hours

[@ivi122]

Justin Taylor 100 hours!? This can’t be true. That’s impossible

[@ckilara]

LOL I’m surprised it’s called punishment because in the Army, you can’t call it punishment any more, you have to call it corrective training or corrective action. You will have JAG all over you if have the word punish/ punishment is in your counselings or even say it. Even the terms getting smoked or smoked

[@joshieb.tindall7511]

Dale Dahle Spell¿ ✔✅ Brent Roe Brown T.A.

[@dogguy8603]

I thought about applying to west point but i decided to enlist after i get my AA and then if i want to make it a career, go go to OCS after i get my BA online

[@Justin_Taylor]

good luck!

[@clarkbarrett6274]

You can always try to get into West Point while you are enlisted. May even be able to enter the Preparatory School, if you need to.

[@dogguy8603]

Clark Barrett well i already have collage credits and am close to my AA, so at this point it would not make sense to apply while enlisted, also West Point is more of a STEM collage, and i am a history major

[@clarkbarrett6274]

dog guy Yes, West Point is known for STEM and every cadet takes some STEM courses, but you can major in History, or English, or Philosophy, etc. if you like. But whatever you like.

[@dogguy8603]

Clark Barrett the problem is that i would have already completed my math a science gen ed, and credits dont transfer to West Point, it just does not make sense for me to restart mu degree that I already am halfway done with

[@seringmodoujaw7048]

why were those soldiers walking about. how long do they have to do that

[@jacoblong3541]

Probably skipped class or something and a few hours

[@davidhuang5645]

soundtrack?

[@johnhenrytown5045]

Hey we’re did you get your suspenders at because my dad was in the army an retired from the army an would love a pair

[@Justin_Taylor]

I found them in a drawer in a room I was moving into so they might be hard to come by

[@frankveri3446]

What’s the policy with lower arm tattoos?

[@Justin_Taylor]

Nothing "offensive" and nothing that would show in a long sleeve shirt

[@gabrielmiller3493]

Tell us how to get into the academy

[@Crusade6539]

Can you study cyber security at West Point? I am going to do army special forces infantry officer but I wanna major in cyber security and computer stuff

[@selahattinkaskc8668]

yeah you can do it

[@joiebiden35]

Question, what song was that?

[@carterbaldwin4091]

Did you go to Catholic High in Little Rock, I noticed your ring

[@Justin_Taylor]

I did! But I was wearing my West Point ring

[@carterbaldwin4091]

@@Justin_Taylor shit they look really similar, I'm going to CHS right now and will be applying to the academies soon

[@jeffreygrissom4145]

I'm from lewisville Arkansas that flag go hard bro

[@Vividimaginations24]

What a punishment 😂😂😂 walking aimlessly

[@divinemonologue]

what are the academic requirements for west point?

[@Justin_Taylor]

1. Good grades 2. Don't have bad grades

[@divinemonologue]

@@Justin_Taylor if i currently go to a military school will it increase my chances of getting accepted?

[@TheSniper837]

Fellow Arkansan here

[@DiamondHandsHodl]

Where do you get white shirts from?

[@Justin_Taylor]

Issued to us like the rest of our stuff when we first get here.

[@LosAngeles2011]

Cool video!

[@heartwings2517]

It seems rather useless to just have the cadets walk back and forth for punishment. They should instead have to do some work that would benefit all, for example, clean, polish, sweep, weed and so on. What they do, while probably really boring, results in... nothing. Of course, what would I know, I grew up in Annapolis! Go Navy,- beat Army...again!

[@Justin_Taylor]

The Naval academy literally has the exact same punishment

[@kennyli2176]

I thought the cadets can not film inside the west point

[@Justin_Taylor]

ooo but they can

[@sarahgrace7047]

wait, you’re from Arkansas!?

[@Justin_Taylor]

ye

[@evanjohnson4428]

I see that Arkansas flag!!🐗🔨⬇️

[@theroadtocosplayandcomicco5840]

I like your uniform

[@josephjones6870]

Arkansas, Wooooooo Pig Soooooie! Also GO NAVY!

[@rebeccariordan6391]

Helps if you have a fresh haircut....Go Army! How many hours?

[@Justin_Taylor]

Only 5. Woke up late for a class and decided to take the hours and finished my nap.

[@matthanigan7206]

GO ARMY BEAT AIRFORCE! GO ARMY BEAT NAVY!

[@itsmattiem]

Nice flag in the background! ;-)

[@Justin_Taylor]

thanks my mom bought it for me

[@cbloom7177]

Dear Mom & Dad, West Point is sooooo hard. I have to watch cadets walk hours! *sad face*

[@marycatherinesullivan7215]

I’m in 8th grade what can I do now to help me get to West Point

[@Justin_Taylor]

Keep West Point in mind, but focus on high school for now. That thing can be a monster.

[@marycatherinesullivan7215]

Justin Taylor thank you so much for replying I really look up to you!