How White South Africans Got So Wealthy

How white economic empowerment through targeted government intervention made modern South Africa
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[@matimbabaloyi2916]

As a black South African i had no idea my parents had it this bad they dont like to talk about it thanks for educating us on this.

[@leratomaloka503]

Same here. This was truly educational.

[@grantgerson2168]

Remember America and Europe go around the world telling people about democracy. That is racist white supremacist crap. I call it like is fuck their feelings. Your dealing with an animal medium rare steak 🥩 eating people with blood running out. I oppose so that means I am racist right.

[@zero10111]

Indeed

[@nompumelelocele8497]

It's not that as parents we don't like talking about the apartheid impact on our lives. I also used to wonder why it was so difficult to talk about the painful experiences. It's because of the depth and the breadth of the trauma brought about by the system, to the extent that one felt it as a deep seated but almost part of one's daily life. You lived and breathed it, so putting it into words was very difficult. During the time, there was so much to deal with in just trying to survive the various aspects of the oppression. Whenever you get someone in their 70s and above to talk to about it, you must look in their eyes and you will see the pain. The video is an illustration of the reason why it will take a lifetime to get rid of the effects of the apartheid system.

[@MuantanamoMobile]

They didn't want to burden you with the pain of justified-hatred, with the hope that you can be able to thrive in a "fair" and "inclusive" new pluralistic system.

[@pmwiky]

"Bad systems hide behind miracle cases." I felt that

[@MosesMatsepane]

They're going to call you a 'woke leftist' instead of coming up with counter arguments because this is such a hard pill to swallow.

[@user-or4pc9dz7x]

All zero people said that

[@dirkstoffberg8123]

As a white South African born in Durban 1970, I am english speaking with a afrikaans name & surname, mother born in Mauritius and dad born in South Africa, mother and father divorced when I was around 6 months old. As I stated I grew up in Durban and I am one of the white persons who held the view of how did I benefit from apartheid... I grew up with a single mother that looked after 3 kids and who never received any maintenance from my dad. She never owned any property so always had to pay rent and it was difficult for her to make ends meet financially, however we never went hungry and always had enough clothes to keep warm. After listening to your podcast I now realise that I did indeed benefit from apartheid, we always had electricity and water and attended a decent government school and if needed the government hospitals where able to take good care of us, thank you for enlightening us Dan. What I would also like to share as my personal opinion and experience growing up as a english speaking white South african, was that I mainly experienced racist mindsets from afrikaaners (certainly not all), ie when drafted into the army I was exposed to a lot of afrikaaners who in my view where the majority of white South africans. What I also experienced was a preference by South african afrikaaners rather wanting to do business with other afrikaaners, hereby feeling english South africans where given less opportunities, obviously not on the scale or even the same wavelength as what black South africans experienced. Thank you Dan for your insightful message, I love our country and I love its people, we have such potential if we could work together in recognising the past injustices for what they where and focussing on building a future we can all be proud of which carries opportunity for all of our children and their children. I apologise to all my black sisters and brothers for the negative mindsets and prejudices that an apartheid system exposed us to and the negative effects it bore on you. God bless you all, God is good. 2024 is certainly a big year for this country in determining the direction the country will go, please vote.

[@kg356]

You had water and electricity because white people created the Infrastructure for it

[@imhotep1613]

Thanks for your sincere comment . I'm not South african, by the way. I'm from another african country but living in America .So after reading your comment, I would assume that you may agree with all of what Julius Malema says, but at least when it comes to land redistribution, I don't think you disagree with him .

[@dirkstoffberg8123]

@@imhotep1613 Julius Malema is a complete idiot who is in it for the money and power. The government owns the majority of land in South Africa, so if there was a will, there is a way. These political parties are always looking for ways (propaganda) to drum up support, but as soon as they get the vote they celebrate their position and forget about serving all the citizens of South Africa.

[@anchoragealaska3104]

If I was offered a choice between being White under Apartheid or Black post 1994 I would choose the latter for a life of privileged opportunities.

[@magwinyamangola5473]

U are one of the few who tells the truth, Thank you

[@gerchwingallant654]

Conversations like this open one's mind. Pain is hard to get over but allow it to be your teacher. This was very interesting and educational. Thank you Dan.

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Thank you, this message is very kind

[@The-Art-of-Luv-4-Africa]

As an African American, who us seeking to relocate to SA, I really appreciate your honest information that you share about the country. Thank you and much blessings and Ubuntu!

[@MinotaurvsCyclops]

Why would you choose SA over a safe African country e.g. Rwanda?

[@hanoitripper1809]

Why would you choose SA? There’s safer places.

[@MosesMatsepane]

​​@@MinotaurvsCyclops Safe but super rural. Trust me Rwanda with all its bells and whistles is still underdeveloped. Someone coming from America is going to find it extremely inconvenient to live there, that applies to most African countries.

[@netomaape2557]

South Africa is very safe for the middle class upwards. Wealthy areas here are some of the safest in Africa; with by far the most advanced economy and infrastructure.

[@hanoitripper1809]

@@netomaape2557 yes I’m from SA but I don’t hear of too many ppl coming here

[@moyahabo3494]

If I may ask... How many White friends did you lose because of this episode?😂😂

[@theissuewithdancorder]

None 😂 my white friends think the same as me

[@gosiamemakgopela3086]

😂😂😂

[@BuhleMpakama]

Were you called a traitor?😅😅

[@deanlopes181]

​@@theissuewithdancordersounds pretty fucking Racist

[@YoungLion449]

Really?! We condemning people for speaking the truth now 😒

[@user-lz1rd9hm9r]

as Black South African , I appreciate your un-bias reporting at all times , well-done once more

[@adnel4142]

Unbiased? lmao

[@rydalldelpaul7975]

This was so educational 🤞 I hope this reaches the correct audience. Awareness is power.

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Fingers crossed!

[@TheLocalStandard]

​@@theissuewithdancorderWow, this is the second video from you that I watched. I didn't reach anywhere with the first because I thought it was another apologist who cares less about others and more about their own. I am from Nigeria and you just got a new dedicated subscriber. As a Black person I believe Black people are not inherently bad and out for vengeance, a majority just want similar opportunities and the reality of safety as the rest. You did well!

[@thobiem1489]

Once it reaches the correct audience, then what @rydalldelpaul?? What should the recourse be without creating reverse racism??

[@rydalldelpaul7975]

@thobiem1489 I can't answer that unfortunately, but being educated and acquiring as much knowledge as possible is a great start for civilians and voters. we look for answers and guidance from our political leaders, for the best positive change, growth and liberation for South Africa.

[@bbloem950]

Being reminded of the past keeps opening wounds... Nothing can change, do you wanna get back with your x? Then leave the past behind, stop opening wounds, it must heal.... Economic freedom is the key to create wealth, businesses are tailores to a owners uniqe mind and hard work.. Cannot be taken

[@mbusomyeza7640]

It's the first time seeing a white person who speaks like this guy, he speaks the truth and not in denial of anything, if all whites were like this guy we would be in much peace in South Africa, I love this guy, he is the breath of fresh air....

[@theissuewithdancorder]

That's kind thank you

[@melon9680]

Since when have white folks ever been in denial about anything? Its much of the majority who hide behind the past, race cards and arrogant pride to deflect the fact that they are responsible for their own failures today, why this nation is failing, and why the people are poor, jobless and being murdered, raped and more in droves by their own. And they keep on voting for anyone who makes them believe all they are are innocent victims to whom the world is out to undermine. Just listen to ANC and EFF bullshit and thats all youll ever hear. No nation ever was built by victims. Afrikaners are dont think or feel or do things the same way the African majority does, and you cannot expect them to think or feel like others because they are a different people and because their seen as second rate nobody considers their history. And their history has made them fiercely independent rebels who won't bow to anyone, not even their own, and will take measures into their own hands if need be. There is no time to bitch and moan, there is no need for leadership, there is only building the life you want and moving forward. The complete opposite of much of the majority. And most are not in denial because Afrikaners dont have an inferiority complex.

[@anchoragealaska3104]

White south africans became wealthy in the same way their European ancestors did in the pre-Colonial era and for the same reason that Europe's wealthiest countries today do not have - or ever had - a colonial history - now go figure that out and then contemplate that Oz, NZ who are SA's 2 siblings, became wealthy without WEE...now go figure that too.

[@melon9680]

@@anchoragealaska3104 Last i checked it was pioneers leading the way, not victims. Plus any Europeans here, are both not, nor colonials except the English. Wealth was built exploiting some people sure, it doesnt mean it was taken, cant make something without the architect. Life was never fair nor cared for the weak. And a nation in the hands of entitled victims, well, just see for yourself what that creates. Dont get me wrong i dont like tyranny, but some things were of a different time and cannot be rasionalised in today's perspective nor can we change things we have no control over.

[@succulentgreen5843]

If all black south africans acted like this? But they don't instead they loot and steal from thier own people.... Probably the dumbest take ever my dude weird how your own dumb words can be used against you.........

[@amritpurshotam]

What would also be interesting to cover is how even post democracy, white owned businesses got even richer due to now having access to world markets after sanctions were lifted.

[@anchoragealaska3104]

White south africans became wealthy in the same way their European ancestors did in the pre-Colonial era and for the same reason that Europe's wealthiest countries today do not have - or ever had - a colonial history - now go figure that out and then contemplate that Oz, NZ who are SA's 2 siblings, became wealthy without WEE...now go figure that too.

[@blessingmasawi3616]

​​@@anchoragealaska3104 white Australia policy

[@samirmuhammad1781]

this was very educational. it boils my blood when I see people blame those who were oppressed, and not the system that was created to benefit the few.

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Yeah its insane

[@AmunRaa]

are you oppressed now ?

[@thabisohitchdladla]

Hi Dan , with people like you there definitely is still hope for the Human race. It's an unfortunate and tricky situation we find ourselves in, but if we work together anything is possible. #2024

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Thank you. I believe so

[@thesenuts603]

dude, why dont you make a video on all of the violence happening to the Boers, and how white families are having land taken from them by the ANC. @@theissuewithdancorder

[@rydalldelpaul7975]

So proud of you Dan. You deserve all the success and happiness ❤

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Thank you so so so much

[@Qhawe_Jameson.]

As a South African (Nguni) we suffer from the illusion of inclusion there's so much inequality in SA to a point were calling it my country feels wierd. We need a lot of pro African policies to level the field. We still don't have access to wealth creation opportunities due to White monopoly capital, income inequality etc... we still have a long way to go to rectify past injustices.

[@user-or4pc9dz7x]

Worked for Zimbabwe

[@graemebaguley3778]

I love this, I wish my parents could understand this.

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Send it to them, see what happens

[@thatosebotsane8017]

When discussing racism amongst former colleagues, I used to tell them that the best way to fight racism is for them to call out their racist family members when making racist comments during Braai’s and there are no black people around. This comment literally gives me hope about this country’s future.

[@rorisangtsoeu2501]

Not the beanies still changing😂😭,Great podcast man!🔥🙌🏽

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Wherever we go the beanies make changes

[@christianmaterial2417]

That was actually funny, made light of the intense topic

[@mathslit]

You have earned my trust and thank you for being a true fellow South African

[@Dlamini123]

After watching few of your videos im locked because you stand for truth and honesty. Keep up the good work and educate us 👏

[@lungilendokweni4331]

Noooooo too short!!!! I joined you on your first live on Tik Tok on Tuesday. You mentioned that you were posting your first video on your KZbin channel today. I couldn't wait. Now I can not wait for the second episode. This is not your opinion neither are you choosing sides but telling the story as it happened. No Propaganda. And guess what.....you are a white guy nogal. Thank you for this Dan.

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Thank you mate! I will try to make longer ones in future!

[@afroteen4647]

Waaayyy too short

[@theissuewithdancorder]

@@afroteen4647 will make the next one longer I promise

[@maqboolkhatieb6988]

Dan massive respect to you, well articulated video. This is a sensitive topic in south africa, we need to break down barriers and create a more inclusive environment for all ❤

[@sihlebam3863]

Am proud of you, Dan. You are a shining light in a dark tunnel. I have always said that apartheid was far more ECONOMICAL than it was POLITICAL. The political oppression, racial segregation, policy making and brutal law enforcement was a means to a glorious end for the white minority. In 2023, we find the vast majority of the black population pretty much stuck in the deep pit of inequality and abject poverty which was so well orchestrated and clinically executed by the fathers of apartheid, a pit whose depth very few can comprehend. Apartheid was ruthless in reducing the black population to two things: A labour force and a consumer base for white business. The townships where more than half of the black population now live were initially termed, "Labour camps". They were designed to self destruct and retain the status quo for as long as possible, for the benefit of the white suburb residents. Apartheid's spacial planning might be another interesting topic to explore. You have coined it well: White Economic Empowerment. Truly, there is no better phrase to describe what apartheid really was!

[@mrmanq9517]

Its sad that this history is SELDOM taught in our schools.... what even worse is that the ANC has plunged us deeper into poverty. Great content bro, clean and concise...🔥

[@buyaza8918]

I shed a little tear listening to this, South africans are indeed good people. Thank you Dan.

[@tomiselepe7066]

Seems like a sober analysis of South African realities but I can't subject myself to the horror of arguing with my people over feelings vs reality. Very insightful video, best of luck trying to highlight important aspects of our country.

[@tomiselepe7066]

Oh, disregard, there is a podcast. Much better, there are no comment sections on sportify 😂 I can listen without getting distracted and emotional over an uninformed or troll comment. #ADHDlivesMatter😂

[@shirleysteyn2809]

You have just hit it on the nail. Most white South African don't want hear and acknowledge this because they know it in their hearts it's truth . You know the saying that the truth hurts, this is it.

[@phumlanindlovu5653]

Damn this video should part of our country’s curriculum 🥺💔

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Thank you that's kind

[@misterbrown]

I completely resonate with this message. It's easy to overlook and even forget the past. Especially for those who weren't born in that time, and who has no possible understanding of what life was like during that time. Whenever I think of something like this, it sickens me to my stomach. The first time I heard something like this was when we attended a town hall meeting in Ikageng (North West) for a documentary on the impact of apartheid on the folks who lived in the rural area. The mme's and ntate's would talk with anguish in their voices about the issues they faced, and the unnecessarily large hurdles they had to jump through for basic tasks. This rattled my cage, and I remember telling my father that I was disappointed in the previous leadership of South Africa, thinking that there was no excuse. I was born and raised in what is known as the "Replublic of South Africa". Hence, I was raised with the ideas of sharing, caring for your neighbour, and treating others the way you would want to be treated. No matter the colour of your skin or a persons culture/traditional values. We are all from and for South Africa. I choose live my life this way, and will continue to try my best to assist others where I can. There is no way for me to right the wrongs in the past, but I can be the difference for the future.

[@katlegontsoane7528]

Wow,great words man.Majority of black South Africans are actually waiting for White South Africans to get to this realisation hence no hate or revenge sentiments where never expressed from black South Africans

[@HeyJuuude-05]

The spirit of the LORD is within you. Your words show what’s in your heart.

[@bonganiratema6974]

Ur a good person don't charge for the evil one.

[@nomkhosiprecious9435]

vote for those who want the interest of the majority, that might help

[@user-qm5bv8wp6p]

To be hated or discriminated it's sad but we the New Generation it's in Our Hands to fight back.Alluta Continua.Bohani Soweto

[@onearthasitisinheaven1]

You put so much into perspective & gave most of us Black Gen Z's a reality check of how extremely bad our grandparents had to live...All these given to context really makes you understand the black people's shakiness in trusting a white government

[@omphemetseseleke3929]

It's funny how you keep on changing the position of your beanie while giving such a serious talk😂

[@PatrickSkosana-uc9gi]

😂😂

[@awande007]

Thanks for being unbiased and speaking the facts and what's true , as black South Africans we still have it rough although its not and nothing like Apartheid times our parents and elders who are working still have it hard but maybe for my generation it will be better. And with YTchannels like your's that speak the truth I have hope for a better future.

[@LOUDTVnetwork]

You're on your way to a million subscribers, bro! 👌😎🇿🇦

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Yoh I don’t think so but we can dream, thank you 🥹

[@LOUDTVnetwork]

@@theissuewithdancorder Trust & Believe! 💪

[@E.T.F.B_]

Everytime I hear the word Apartheid tears come to my eyes. My grandmother and my grandfather suffered so much I think of all the stories they used to tell me. No wonder my grandfather had a drinking problem.

[@6klippa894]

But they’ll tell you to SHUT UP AND MOVE ON , that was 30 years ago. I hate ignorance, forgive and forget when people who committed those crimes against humanity are still alive.

[@tebohomacheka2684]

​@@6klippa894yeah its fucked up. Buh dont you think death is kinda extreme though??

[@E.T.F.B_]

@@6klippa894 and they still would do every single one of those things they did if they could do them again

[@caralho5237]

@@6klippa894 Please keep screaming about it, please keep pointing fingers and please stay blind to your current situation. I'm sure that will improve the problems in your country

[@Tkay-pv8lr]

​@@6klippa894 forgiveness gives peace, and a proper way of thinking about building our country.

[@Akos885]

Black South Africans jave suffered, and the worse thing is that our forefathers decided not to teach us the wickedness of these people and how cruel they are

[@HarmonicRezolution]

Lekker Dan. Enjoy your videos - with everyone seemingly getting so polarized and upset about their own agendas your channel is refreshing in its balanced views. Keep it up!

[@ipelengmekgwe834]

Tjo! Thanks, Dan, very educational. This was by far one of the most eye-opening figures on why apartheid is so difficult for our parents and grandparents to swallow.

[@childofthesoil1163]

Wow im so impressed of your content this is the first time a white person telling rhe truth 🙌🙌

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Very kind words, thank you

[@sanjayr7977]

Thank you for an eye opening education! Your presentation is excellent. I am proud to say that I am your subscriber.

[@ihearditandilikeditsession9835]

I love you for this. This should be the foundation of every economic conversation in this country.

[@sandilezulu4319]

Wow😮… haven’t heard of such truth in a long time. South Africa need more people like you Dan. Keep up the good work and fight for ALL South Africans.🫡

[@tjrmakhetha]

Short sweet and powerful. If South Africa is to become the country that we all wish it to be, this is the kind of object outlooks that we all must have. For the sake of the nation we all love

[@marcusmoonstein242]

One of the things I clearly remember about apartheid was that any white person who wanted a job could get one somewhere. If you were unemployable to private businesses you could always get some sort of government job in the post office or railways. The pay and conditions might not have been great, but your job was virtually guaranteed. As a result the unemployment rate amongst whites was always in the low single digits. The implied government job guarantee helped the white population enormously in terms of economic empowerment. So is it now the turn of non-white people to benefit from such economic empowerment? If white economic empowerment was morally wrong, does that make black economic empowerment morally right? Should we repeat the mistakes of the past, or try a different path?

[@luxolontamo4440]

Valid question, people can't divorce their emotions on this topic. If the economic & political structure of the time was slopped unfairly why is that justified today. This really exposes the fact that people view equally in a very twisted way, instead of seeing it as the word suggests they treat it as a revenge mechanism or leverage of some kind.

[@Glider34]

Do two wrongs make a right?

[@diamond9650]

​​​​​​@@Glider34 Seems more like, you disrespect me, I disrespect you, you hit me, I hit you back, you do me wrong, I do you wrong, etc, etc, etc..., that's how things seem to work in this world, karma, generally we get treated the way we treat others, eventually, applies to individuals, groups of people, nations, etc, etc, etc. Even this greedy ANC and all its greedy swines that have been living it up at the expense of others, the day of reckoning (karma) is coming for them, eventually, in this life nobody escapes from their wrong doing, if not sooner then later it comes.

[@ahlussunnahsouthafrica8467]

Thank you for educating us on our history that we hardly talk about. Definitely giving you a follow

[@napomotsoeneng6046]

Dan I don't know how you do it neh, but I got to your channel, been watching a few and parts of your video on Twitter but onces I found you on KZbin it was game over. I'm glad I found this channel. Keep it up my guy

[@edwardseleme1868]

I’ve been telling people for years. Thank you for showing the truth

[@dn822]

Dont worry Dan. As a white south african Im poor and we have allot a white people especially older people asking for food here in my town.

[@mj9522]

Only elite are benefiting from ANC

[@liveinwisdom3610]

Those are exceptions. We can not argue for exceptions. We need to look at generalities, the average white, is 20x more well off than the average black. Those are the facts.

[@dn822]

@@liveinwisdom3610 The exception is becoming a norm fast.

[@lightningRatPack]

@@liveinwisdom3610 80% of white wealth is in the hands of 31 white people. Many of the Black people that are counted are immigrants that have been made a south African. That came here with nothing. You cant use the average as there are too many extremes.

[@MinotaurvsCyclops]

And Dan will argue that it is fair how you are poor because of your ancestors, the white guilt is real

[@James.james215]

I am faily new to this channel. I subscribed from the first video I watched about 1 week ago. Pure information, Not biased at all. It was tough indeed.

[@vinniechan]

The country basically went from developing for the 10% of the population to developing for 100% there will be challenges Granted you don't want the country to get too uneven there is a balance between growing the pie and sharing out the existing pie The country has so much potential - vast plain of lands, young demographics, untold riches of resources and a location that enables it to trade with both sides of the world

[@johnmajor9564]

At the moment SA is developing the top wealthy 10% regardless of race. For the rest the disastrous economic development is biting.

[@bombilwazi2320]

Yes the country went from 10% to 100 but currently we are plagued by no redress of the apartheid and colonialism and corruption!

[@misterkai83]

Impressive analysis my man

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Thank you 🙏

[@djordaan22]

thank you for the research and educating us

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Thanks!

[@DorianSA]

Thanks for this. Accurate, true and immensely useful for our times. Complicated problems need time and extraordinary effort to address.

[@zero10111]

Thank you ur channel is really helpful & makes it simple and easy to understand the current conditions & how did we get here

[@raps7287]

I wish this sort of thing was taught in our schools.

[@DorianBarker]

I don't think South African's have the "just pull yourself up from the bootstraps" mentality. When people talk about how there should be more equality by now, they're saying that the government has failed our people, not that the people have failed themselves.

[@YoungLion449]

The government just made a few cracks in the foundation....Yes the people did the rest...but they couldn't have done it alone

[@thatosebotsane8017]

With the means of production still largely controlled by the few Apharteid beneficiaries, the government never stood a chance.

[@DorianBarker]

@@thatosebotsane8017 could you please elaborate?

[@thatosebotsane8017]

@@DorianBarker towards the end of Apharteid, a lot of key state owned assets were privatised, eg farm lands, coal mines, steel manufacturing etc. Also supply chains were established and the incoming government was infiltrated and incapacitated to change these measures. In addition to this, we all know that any transformation drive is usually met with elevated resistance and this environment has lead to a minority benefiting and controlling the economy to this day, the very same minority that benefitted from Apharteid.

[@janblaauw7923]

@@thatosebotsane8017 Coal mines are majority black owned or owned by foreign companies. Examples are BHP Billiton’s Ingwe Collieries, Sasol Mining, Eyesizwe and Kumba Resources and Anglo American’s Thermal Coal ( These are just some of the big companies ). Thought only 46 / 47 % of all the coal mines are actually owned by black people. We have laws that stipulate 30% ( changed from 26% in 2002 to 30% in 2017) of mines have to have black ownership and this was achieved, but most of the companies are still British based and British owned. Diamond mines are the only one that barely meets the legal requirement ( I think ).

[@nompumelelocele8497]

Thank you Dan for the analysis and information. Very informative.

[@glantinemashile239]

Well done Dan, this is good. Thank you and God bless you.

[@TlouSebotja]

Wow, a white South African speaking Facts & being objective 💯

[@redflag4255]

Jews are not white. Jews hate white people

[@princeedward9160]

Dude I’m puzzled and just in disbelief shock and feeling weird 😢I mean I thought I knew South Africa but damn with those statistics and what you saying now I totally understand why most black people are the way they are I mean it’s a huge discussion to have in the near future

[@theissuewithdancorder]

It's crazy how many of us don't know the full realities

[@Blocc187]

The beanie changes 😂😂😂.

[@maqabah]

You the man brother, thanks for your honesty and I'm glad you're not fooling your self, like others

[@XolaniNombika]

My brother your channel is very important it educate, teach and learning for us South Africans best channel 💯👏I salute you 👍🙏

[@gauchetvanantwerpen147]

Hi Dan, Many thanks for this portion of the history. What happened during those days were surely not easy for my fellow South Africans that went through this time. I am here as a committed Christian to establish a prosperous, peaceful country for all of our children. I did not inherent any cash or houses or any earthly things from my parents expect to work for what you want. Some of my friends in school were privileged by having the best of everything. Some of us were less privileged. Some of us grew up in parentless homes, they were even less privileged. My contribution is by no compensation but by sharing my experience and knowledge obtained from my privileged background to the less privileged. I respect the ones more privileged than I, and I expect the same. History that we as white people were told were covered in biastness, similar to the black education in those days. I think it is important for all to go back to the places were the events took place to understand reasons etc. I think that we surely should not continue with this Marxist classification, have and have nots. Based on history, that is an everlasting battle based on someones social classifcation. The ultimate winner of this battle is a dictator like we have in China and here in SA with 'kill the boer, kill the farmer'.... or in the Middle East with 'from the river to the sea'... Your history started in 1913 but it actually started much earlier when Bartlomeaus Dias and later Jan van Riebeeck put foot on South Africa in Cape Town. The reason for this was that there was no halfway house in Africa, between Europe and India and the Middle East for trade.. Trade is what makes the world go round...not marxism. The only inhabitants during those days were Sir Harry die Strandloper. Sir Harry did not have the means or the appetite to join the world.. Van Riebeeck brought a portion of the Cape to establish a trade root. Records reveal that Sir Harry sold South Africa for cigarettes and booze. The Khoi was invited to work for van Riebeeck but refused... In fact, not African wanted to work for van Riebeeck and they choose not to compete against him for trade... van Riebeeck then imported slaves from India, Malaysia to come and work. Ironically all black slaves, were exported to ARAB and US countries did not come from here. When the Brit came to South Africa in 1913, the Afrikaners were boers and not businessmen. The business men were the Brit, Jews and Arabs. Black and white fought shoulder to shoulder against the Brits. The Anglo Boer war was lost against the Brits. Apartheid concepts were introduced by the Brits like 'DIE SWART GEVAAR' to make the Boers to start turning against our fellow countrymen. It was the Brits that started with coloured people cannot vote.. My question: Is an Arab from Egypt an African? Is a Russian, Jew, Arab or Chinese black or white? Let Us build a positive Marxist free South Africa

[@lyndonjacobs5264]

So you are an Afrikaaner propogandist. You ommit quite a lot, such as the dutch arriving and taking land that the khoi used for grazing, which started to erode their society. Also that Harry die Strandloper came from khoi and san people who already inhabited the land and then revolted against the VOC because he saw what they were doing to his people. Also you dont mention how the pre-afrikaaners expanded and pushed the khoi out of their home because they wanted land for themselves. In addition, nothing that the british did excuses what the Afrikaaners did. And to say that Marxism is bad is a just another tactic to stop people from banding together and empower themselves.

[@rebel3369]

Jesus, you talk so much sh*t.

[@bonganiratema6974]

Ur a good white person.

[@thuthukilemkhize5977]

Thank you for being such an honest person. We appreciate you so much!

[@tebugomajombozi1197]

These are nation building conversations, we can't have one side being in total denial of the other's struggle past and present and yet calling for unity. Honesty is the first step and meaningful redress is the next. The ANC has absolutely fluffed the lines these past 30 years but nothing they could have done could dent the centuries old institutionalised racial classism.

[@jawvees2585]

Love this channel 🎉what a perspective changer 🥇🙌🏾🥀

[@MphoM-gz9jp]

Hi Dan. As a black teenager, I personally don't think BEE is fair. I believe success should be earned on merit, not because I happen to be black. Will you please make a video to explain what BEE is, and what misconceptions I might have made?

[@lyndonjacobs5264]

I think the question is: if black people do not start on equal footing with white people economically, is a merit based society fair?

[@404Learning]

The first misconception is that BEE equates to the absence of merit, I who graduated in 2003 and others before me found it extremely difficult in finding highly skilled work despite graduating with a tough degree "Computer Science". The majority of us were put in call centre jobs rather than getting an opportunity in junior computer programming while our white counterparts with zero experience and qualifications were ring fenced to attain such opportunities. It took BEE and AA policies implemented by the Government and started taxing companies who do not comply. Basically the jobs we have today that require highly skilled individuals is as a result of the Government forcing the hand of these private companies through heavy taxation. Where merit comes in, black people were not just thrown into the positions, many companies who complied introduced curated mentorships and training programs, and then a careful selection of the best performing black individuals got the job. Yes there are outliers where none deserving people got the job, it doesn't mean by in large meant the absence of merit. The aim for BEE isn't only about tenders that gave it a bad name through gross mismanagement, but to ensure the work environment matches the demographics of the country.

[@bombilwazi2320]

BEE is absolutely not fair , we need colonialism and apartheid redress! When that is done we wont need BEE, it already benefits and pacifies a few people with tenders etc and its not beneficial to everyday South Africans!

[@more2much696]

You are living in your own head. Have you heard on networking

[@sds2954]

Just when i thought Dan couldn't get any sexier, he lands this message. Lol This was unbiased and so informative. As a coloured male who grew up on the Cape Flats, with a businessman 'white' grandfather whom could not accept my father as his own due to Apartheid laws / mindset (you know sleep with the help, just dont marry the help), i saw this play out first hand. My dad was raised by his "stepfather" as his own on thr Cape Flats, in poverty. Yet, across the highway, his biological white father and half siblings where living in it up in luxury. We cant change the past BUT these conversations are important to have. White South Africans (especially the younger generations) dont know their/our history. They kind of live in a bubble and take for granted their privileged lives eg. Having your education paid for by your parents, having a roof over your heads and enough food in the fridge, having your parents give you an extra push by helping with a deposit on your first car or home. Living and working in Sea Point for example because daddy has connections as a company, or damn. Working for your daddy (job security). Hell, no having to pay blacktaxcoz your parents are not dependent on you. Hopefully this will reach the right audience. Hopefully white south africans will finally start seeing the problems POC face in this country as and "our" problem instead of a "their" problem eg. Fees must fall vs Zuma must fall. The one movement united all South Africans, the other was a POC issue (they want everything for free). Once we start collectively looking at SA problems as "our" problems, we can possibly move towards a free and democratic SA and get the chance in government this country so desperately needs.

[@lily5952]

Fellow coloured person who grew up on the Cape flats... It's interesting you bring up your white biological father and the disdain he felt for you. My mom's grandfather was a white man. He was an absolute terror and called his children the H word (you know what that means)...and the irony is that he was totally dependent on his supposedly inferior children or he would have likely died in the gutter. My mom's grandmother, was coloured but she lived as a white woman in a wealthy suburb because she could pass as white. My mom's mom was given the choice of passing but she didn't want to do it because she'd have to turn her back on her family who were a little too dark to pass. The white supremacy regime ruined families. It's always struck me as strange. How race is "interchangeable". It should mean nothing but it is unfortunately still haunting us.

[@sds2954]

@@lily5952 100% percent with you. My dad had a similar experience. He was tall, very fair skinned, green blue eyes and blonde hair. During the apartheid years he passed as white, even dated white woman i believe BUT never decided to live as a white man as he too would need to turn his back on his family. A sad and difficult history we come from.

[@t_world7721]

My brother I love your work! From your work and detail I can tell you Love South Africa ! 🇿🇦🇿🇦 Thank you !

[@TshepoMavimbela]

This channel is gonna blow up way too much I wonder if you're ready

[@nkanyisomkhize853]

Truth is bitter 🤐

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Hard to swallow hey

[@brandonhillwindhunter8445]

Great episode, born in cloured community but this was a good lesson to hear our history like this. Still a long way to go for the country to heal.

[@colourinmyrainbow]

An excellent overview, educational and informative! This needs to be spread far and wide. Thank you for this breath of fresh air! 🙏❤️🙏

[@Real.SMkorp]

This is funny, informative and inspiring 👏 Keep posting my guy bro

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Ey thank you so much

[@tsososkele3355]

If only South Africans can have more of these honest, factual and objective conversations, the world would be a better place. South Africa comes a long way regarding race and the economy. We need to continuously reflect on where we come from In order to know where we going. Great video mate 🇿🇦🫶🏾

[@JaxMchunu]

I learned about some of these historical facts during my postgrad in education and it upset me SO much! Apartheid stole so much from Black people, more so their dignity, their purposes and their potential 💔💔 South African history should be taught more, it’s so important..

[@fionatini9756]

Thank you Dan for sharing this and educating us South Africans, especially those in denial about economic apartheid

[@lefaleghlo6509]

Your beanie changes every time i see you 🤣

[@vthembekwayo]

Good video. Well done

[@peterntuli7074]

I just subscribed - Thank you Dan for educating us unbiased

[@tellallwithkag9176]

Great video i actually learnt a lot, thank you.

[@gcinaboya4419]

RESPECT TO YOUR WORKS

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Thank you

[@mannyathabang1315]

This is extremely painful, there really wasn't anything to live for, it wasn't exciting at all😔 some stuff will really make you question everything, at some point even God. I mean, people did this to our great parents😢 and as youth we are still suffering, very much so.

[@kiaora7214]

Jeez this is interesting to know. Thanks for your research and sharing. New subby here. Beaming in from new Zealand 🇳🇿 😮

[@user-fs5fj6eb9s]

Man, I'm sure if I bump into you, I'm hugging you. You have my respect.

[@ElectrostatiCrow]

I don’t know why but the idea that South Africa was invented sounds funny to me. Like they were in a lab brainstorming ideas on how to make the perfect African country.😂

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Weird how that's how all countries happen 😄

[@jackjackson4412]

Thanks for the information. Your history sounds similar to the history of my country: USA.

[@st.james0]

I got a bit distracted while watching the video because of the alternate styles of wearing your hats, they really crack me up!.....Greatly informative video all the same.

[@priscakoster5719]

Thank you so much Dan for you honesty truly we need more people like you . Together we are stronger , put the past behind us and strive for freedom, we can't do much about our past bt we can do alot about the future ,so let's hold hands and build a healthy ,safe environment for our children, with God's help ,Together we can !!! ❤🤝🙏

[@smisomazibuko7625]

Bro I am debating some apartheid apologist here. I quit shame. These people would say it was better during apartheid but it was better for who?

[@danflower999]

Wish there to be more guys like you Dan 🌹

[@hanoitripper1809]

The Land Act explains so much!plus the other restrictions. Very similar to Australia in the 20th century.

[@sihlenkosi3341]

Hey mr famous! The switch still got our eyes fuzzy! Great show! Keep it up! 🙌🏽🫡

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Not famous haha thank you

[@bijou4735]

If you are white and Afrikaans and you bring this up with your elderly parents, they don't talk about it or defend it. They themselves were brainwashed into believing the apartheid lies. It's not a good thought but sometimes I think it would be better if the older generations would just stfu and go on their merry mortal way. I love my family but ffs some of their beliefs are so damaged and unbendable it makes me not want to be around them.

[@lily5952]

It must be hard to have to confront your family over this. I can't speak for you,but I have had to cut off family members for being toxic. It is such a lovely feeling of relief. You shouldn't have to subject yourself to people who don't align with your values.

[@luxolontamo4440]

​@@lily5952Depends on what kind of values are those and how important they are. You can't just cut your family members like that for solely holding opposite political positions, that's ridiculous and shallow.

[@markstuart-howie5242]

Lekker chat; I do think that the DA is doing a lot to earn that trust, I could be wrong tho, just did 2 weeks in the Kei, no running water infrastructure etc where I was.

[@theissuewithdancorder]

Say more about the DA proving themselves?

[@nthabisengsello6428]

Wow, subscribed. This is a very promising channel. Keep it coming

[@LAH2010]

Great content! Love how you are unbiased. Keep going bro!

[@W.GlobalAffairs]

This is what I expect from all south Africans by now -- understandong the injustices of the past and working together to fix them. unfortunately, some white people see this fixing as discrimination against them.

[@dn822]

It is discrimination doesn't matter how you or Dan would like to argue it away. You have become that which you fought against most. Dan is just doing this for views. Vast majority of things he use today was still build by the rrrr rrrrr rrrrrr. Black Africans had one of the highest living standards in Africa...wonder why?

[@W.GlobalAffairs]

@@dn822 , do you think black Africans had the same high standard as white people? If the answer is No, then you have no point. You cannot tell me that the limits that were imposed on me, were good for me. You cannot tell me that the pain Europeans inflicted on Africa's, was good for them. You have no point there. It is good now that black people and white people can be rich or be poor as humans together. We have the same opportunities and we experience the same life in South Africa. That is a good thing to all of us abd every decent human'being

[@dn822]

@@W.GlobalAffairs You had higher living standards then the rest of Africa. Why

[@W.GlobalAffairs]

@@dn822 , you are talking to the wrong person coz I grew up in poverty. My parents did not have their land in Venda coz they were removed from their land for white people to have land. They did not have anything coz the apartheid government segregated them to barren rural lands and banned them from trading in the national market and the international market. They were given what was called bantu education which excluded the fundamentals of education in order to keep them behind white people. Am sorry to bust your imaginary bubbles, but I lived ompoverty because of apartheid. Where I come from, the entire province of Limpopo was living in poverty. But since we freed ourselves from white spartheid, come to Venda and see the houses and businesses we built for ourselves. So, again, you don have a point coz you do not know us abd you do not know where we come from as a people. All you know is that white people lived well during apartheid. You do not know that for white people to live well, my parents had to be dispossessed. I am trying to be calm and explain to you in the face of your unbearable ignorance. You actually think you can tell black people who were living in poverty, that they lived well during apartheid. You say we were better to other Africans??? You should let living in our country with that ignorance, you should not even be living Africa coz you have no businesses in this continent in this day and age.

[@lynk2572]

My only issue is that progress has stagnated, which isn't beneficial for anyone. The standard of living for black people isn't getting any better, and the standard of living for white people is dropping. This just shows how South Africa is actually regressing, and if we don't correct things EVERYONE will be poor.. I have hope, however. I'm proud to be South African and I truly believe that we can fix things if we stop letting arrogant rich people walk all over us, and stop letting ourselves be convinced to hate each other. It's going to be a gruelling uphill battle though.

[@giftysambo4238]

You speak the truth my friend

[@matomemalatsi3559]

Thank you so much for this Dan! ❤

[@HottopicsLegacy]

God bless you brother and I wish I could share this with Ronald Gouws.