China's 6th Gen Fighters Are Truly Scary

[@laughingkor8643]

Talking about scary....The other day an anchorwoman of a reputable US multinational conglomerate news media commented on primetime, "How can these new Chinese fighter jets be stealth when you can see them fly so loudly?" Now, this is scary!

[@joyl7842]

US education for ya. Costs a fortune and you learn squat.

[@SYL7Tube]

This shows the intelligence of the US media. 😂😂

[@kabirh3626]

😂😂😂

[@anotherbacklog]

On the other hand the NGAD is so stealthy that no one has seen it.

[@laowantongchau]

@@anotherbacklog Not true. A few Pentagon officials had seen it in Power Point😂

[@鄂凯]

An operational radius of 4000km for a fighter is unimaginable. Crazy

[@sergeantblue6115]

Thats the level of range in line with literal ballistic missiles, bloody insane.

[@JinKee]

@sergeantblue6115and all that without an inflight toilet.

[@chinhuattan]

4000km is within Guam's range. US carriers have to fall back to 5000km to be safe.

[@JinKee]

@@chinhuattan can guam fall back?

[@andrewbastian9980]

@@鄂凯 The F-15 eagle 2 haves more range 😂😂

[@jesterguinanao5929]

Atleast this channel is not positive and negative view unlike other KZbin channel there reaction video is More hate about this six generation jet fighter.

[@MrPhillip-o5m]

What is a 6th generation jet fighter?

[@bigcrowe9573]

From what i know, its a fighter that can use AI. I don't know any other definition. Lockheed Martin made it up when they made the F 22 saying it was 5th Gen​@MrPhillip-o5m

[@accountantthe3394]

​@MrPhillip-o5m1) Enhanced stealth (planform profile) 2) Advanced sensor fusion capabilities & larger radar (integrated Awacs) 3) Drone unmanned teaming (CCA) 4) Variable cycle engine 5) Laser point defence systems (DEWS) Bonus: Space combat capabilities

[@twixxtro]

acting like they are the defense contractors

[@domokun845]

They hate us cause they anus

[@filipzietek5146]

This is not an air superiority fighter. This is a multidomain superiority air cruiser.

[@tungzauzage977]

It's a cash grab, hey look ccp leader we're making a 6th gen fighter gives us glorious tribute..... a pair of true paper tigers, nothing more.

[@APDM_Analysis]

@@tungzauzage977 bruh, there's a thing called budget. why people think defense corporations in China is so much different from MIC in the US?

[@almerammar8601]

​@tungzauzau you talk like capitalist west don't do that

[@kumbackquatsta]

aka the colonizer crusher

[@SomeDude518]

This is the Shortsword from Halo.

[@zhugeliang3905]

Keep innovating, China. The preservation of the 5000 years old Chinese civilization depends on you.

[@截玉尘-k8h]

诸葛亮你好

[@Newmeishu]

The 5000 years old Chinese civilization died during the cultural revolution.

[@anthonyk423]

It’s just stolen US tech and designs. Calm down fella

[@AR-bd5hb]

Ccp destroyed 5000 years of culture during the great cultural revolution. Ccp hates culture

[@STE_FAN999]

ure an idiot.

[@yuey0602]

the Chinese must had found Megatron on the far side of the moon.

[@williamho1976]

Yep, they got Cybertron tech now. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@羌越人]

Half a year ago, some Chinese media made very veiled reports that China had captured aliens on the far side of the moon and finally reached certain cooperation with them. There were rumors saying that the Chinese people burned the aliens with cigarette butts, and the aliens were so frightened that they finally surrendered and compromised completely.

[@garendemacia5862]

The United States said: We don’t like the sixth-generation fighter jets, we will start with the seventh generation. Just like the US communications, Huawei is leading in 5G, so the United States will start with 6G.So now American cell phones are ten times slower than those in China, and the charges are ten times more expensive

[@davidrichards1741]

China already has 6G. The US can't even spell it. The US 5G is in fact actually 4.3G lol

[@marsmotion]

@@davidrichards1741 you guys really dont understand the concepts behind the radiation your talking about. the higher the "g" the shorter the microwave wave length. so at some point you would need antennae every lets say 100m...it becomes stupid unless something is done about its very short range propagation. you can see this in your homes with routers at various "g" settings. often 5 or 6 g cant penetrate or propagate through your walls and is blocked. so you end up running both 5-6 and 4 g at the same time. and you need many repeaters to cover a space. as for what the usa has or doesnt have i would reccomend a very good series of books. but the one in the series you should read is by elana freeland Geoengineered Transhumanism: How the Environment Has Been Weaponized by Chemicals, Electromagnetics, & Nanotechnology for Synthetic Biology the usa and prob china are also doing the same. this is why they dont want eachothers comms equipment in eachothers countrys because they are control and weapons sys....countries are distractions. you are ruled by a small group of families in secret that control all world govs.

[@toodlepop]

yeah but i'm not eating sewage and bats. so i think i'll be alright if my phone is a little slower lol.

[@dnmdch]

@@toodlepop maybe u eating only poop while slowly surfing with your old phone?

[@joezizzi3064]

Huawei is leading in 5g communications because of a Turkish scientist.

[@vondertann8218]

Well, if you ask my opinion about the tactics, i would answer with following: "if a soldier is killed, his family is sad and the nation is sad, but if a drone is killed, the commander will tell the operator he is a noob then give him the control of a new drone"

[@shanerooney7288]

An aircraft can be replaced in a year. A pilot requires a decade of training.

[@tungzauzage977]

Chinese drones keep making annoying sounds, "Help me they locked me in here and make me fly all day" (chinese translation).

[@RadicalFloat_95]

​@@shanerooney7288I actually genuinely agree with you

[@RadicalFloat_95]

​@@tungzauzage977L bot option rejected try harder

[@RadicalFloat_95]

@Vondertann what a coincidence lm actually subbed to the exact same channels as you

[@BruceSarbi]

Some HK media suggests J-36 is already in low rate production for initial trial operations. Conclusion based on video showing aircraft in PLAAF paint job with serial number and incredibly high quality skin tight fit and finish unlike what would be expected of a crude prototype. 🇺🇸 Is in deep sheet. 😂

[@AlvinYap510]

I doubt, J-20’s 2011-2017 were assigned to prototype jets, they were coated with almost the same coating and paint job as the ILRP versions as well

[@BruceSarbi]

@AlvinYap510 You can doubt all you like. The J-36 may have already flown for years and the 🇺🇸 knew but kept quiet. Admission or acknowledgement of the J-36 being at advanced stage is a national humiliation for Pentagon with a trillion dollar budget (with just CGI to show for). 🇺🇸 main stream media has largely ignored the J-36 and J-50 videos pretending if you can't see it, then it doesn't exist.

[@shengzhong2662]

港媒和那些满嘴跑火车吸引流量的自媒体没什么区别

[@BruceSarbi]

@MrPhillip-o5m It may have an impact on the 🇺🇸 Navy pilot population.

[@viperkaiyu6384]

​@MrPhillip-o5mThis plane doesn't fix your IQ.

[@JinKee]

The three engine setup is such a brutal solution to the adaptive cycle engine problem: don’t have an adaptive cycle engine, just have an extra engine.

[@antwango]

J36 i envisage is the interim platform until China does have a production variable cycle engine.... though im pretty sure China does have a variable cycle engine cooking

[@KyoChen-y7g]

Electronic equipment will play a more important role in future air battles. The power generation capacity of engines may be more important.

[@jamesallen7205]

Smoke n mirrors ....not even close to its copied american counterpart...and the Chinese has a history of copying the Americans..even the Russians...and everyone knows it's junk the Chinese new j20-j35 ...the Saudis won't even look at it to buy and it's 20 million cheaper then the Americans f35...its a gimmick!..power perceived is power achieved!

[@backpackpepelon3867]

Its like the bulge on the hull of Soviet T-34 to hammer the track back into position while the tank is moving instead of making a better track link. Crude, but work wonders.

[@宋学民]

​@@antwango是旋转爆震发动机。而1马赫之前的动力，是否可以用电动代替，这个还存在疑问，如果这个问题解决了，就可以做7代机了，10000公里续航的超远，极音速，宽域战斗机了。中国内网有这个六代机用旋转爆震发动机推到4马赫巡航的实拍视频。

[@彭彭于晏-u8g]

Hahaha, the 6th generation aircraft in the United States are just PPTs

[@ktrocknerd]

Chinese propaganda, nothing China shows to the world works properly. Everything China does is for show and not for actual use. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWPIm6qAo8SEj5Ysi=J_ppiR5AlC5lE3cO

[@strongchallenger2269]

Heh! They have decided to upgrade B21 as 6th Generation and set the benchmark even when they don't have 0.5 model to show 😂

[@changliu3915]

Reminds me how all olympic medals now counts as gold medals hahahahaha.

[@HeddaIsabel]

haha

[@pooferfish1227]

@@strongchallenger2269the USA doesn’t have to show their hand against these temu fighters

[@Ianmundo]

fighting in the Pacific is fighting at the extremes of range. Chinese designs appear large to carry a lot of ordinance and fuel. American aircraft still rely heavily on midair refuelling, something that may not be readily available in contested airspace

[@stayfree870]

The mid air fueling will be denigned due to missile range.

[@bobsmith3983]

Western jets have short legs and depend too much on tankers which are easy to spot on radar.

[@fatdoi003]

J36 can rely data on AWECs and refueller to J20S that's commanding drones 100km ahead to fire PL17 with the range of 400km.....

[@RichardsMiscCorner]

I recall reading somewhere that China was working on a SAM with a 2000km range. I figured that was to knock out juicy refueling targets.

[@larryc1616]

Are refueling planes stealth?

[@user-oe1hq3wm4r]

It feels like Christmas every time a new vid from this channel shows up in my feed

[@changliu3915]

Basically second island chain is now gone.

[@宋学民]

现在美国，美国军方已经不着重强调第二岛链的重要性了。一共7万人，这7万人，完全在火力覆盖区。第一时间无法守住的话，后面就变成围点打援了。美国不是傻子，这7万人生死虽然也重要，但是对于围点打援来说，美国人可不缺心眼，大不了就是放弃军事基地，留下全球影响力。如果硬刚超远距离支援的话，损失的是全球布局。

[@johnsmith1953x]

Hawaii is in site as well as Dallas Texas.

[@changliu3915]

@@johnsmith1953x I thought Hawaii is part of the third island chain bases.

[@johnsmith1953x]

@@changliu3915 Its in the middle of the pacific. I'm actually wrong. The J36 can reach and DESTROY Naval Base Kitsap-Bangor near Seatle, WASHINGTON on the West Coast of the USA. Wow.

[@verypleasantguy]

Actually, the island chain remains It's that, now it's *_CHINA_* who is in control

[@masonkanterbury3007]

Ever notice how you never see two well matched opponents in battle? Bullies typically only ever fight guys that are much smaller.

[@鄧楠-z6s]

1950年中国VS美国与联合国军。1962年中国VS印度。1969年，中国VS苏联。

[@dnmdch]

@@鄧楠-z6s 他说的是美国吧，只会欺善怕恶

[@BigOrangeMan]

​@@鄧楠-z6s in 1950s China is poorer than Africa and the whole military was just manpower, not like today.

[@johnsmith1953x]

Like Panama and Greenland ~

[@zz9085]

@@BigOrangeMan now we have everying

[@thetreekeeper143]

What an anti-imperial beauty! 😍

[@danielmartin7838]

It’s pro-imperial. Xi has stated his desire to see China reach its former glory during China’s imperial maximum. It’s not just empty words, either, all you need do is look at the military build-up and China’s actions in the contested waters around the nine-dash line

[@michaelwu9450]

Yeah let’s not mince words here, China is literally as imperial as you can get without a monarchy. Single party system with a non-rotating head of state that is seeking to expand influence. It’s neither a criticism or compliment, it just is.

[@dr.magnanimous8973]

@@michaelwu9450 The president still has to be voted in by the party members to be in the seat. Anyone can join the party, become a party member, and rise to the top as any past president. CCP is basically a democracy.

[@PitPwny]

@@dr.magnanimous8973”basically a democracy”😂

[@thetreekeeper143]

@@danielmartin7838 China believes in a multipolar world. Imperial is American. Xi never said that. He said he wants the silk road to re-establish the trade routes. Thats not imperialism.

[@hansudowolfrahm4856]

We got 3 different 6th gen models flying before GTA VI😂

[@Houthiandtheblowfish]

3

[@absboodoo]

But still no HL3

[@andrewbastian9980]

@@hansudowolfrahm4856 There’s only 1 6th generation platform and it’s the B-21 Raider. Everything else is a cheap knock off from the late 1980’s 😂😂 Anybody that knows anything about stealth technology knows China is still behind This is common sense at this point.

[@havocrein]

​@@andrewbastian9980 NOONE have ever used a Generation designation for bombers, not before the Chinese true 6gen came out that is😂😂😂. If a bomber is gonna use generation, it certainly isnt 6th gen. It's so funny seen ppl suddenly start to grasp for straws😂

[@laurentlow6730]

@@andrewbastian9980 so now B21 suddenly become 6th gen 🤣🤣🤣

[@Ravenmaniac66]

I like your videos, no emotional hype, occasionally a droll humorous statement that no one quite gets. Perfect!

[@andrewt.5567]

"China's 6th Gen Fighters Are Truly Scary" The literal title is emotional hype. Unfounded, but still exactly that.

[@Ravenmaniac66]

@andrewt.5567 i think finding a fighter/bomber smaller than the b1 or h6 stealthy and quick is a valid counter to the usa carrier group. With that long range,fast and hard to spot, i would not make fun of 3 engines or anything else for that matter.

[@oakspines7171]

I think we need to straighten the translation, For the translated logics here, then the USAF B2 is 6th gen bomber Cutting edge = Cutting corners Stealth = Steal Amongst a few other things. Please add.

[@SoCalFreelance]

PLA has homefield advantage. U.S. has looooooong vulnerable strategic LOCs.

[@trustmeiknow1]

What’s the point of all that range if they are conservatively used in an intermediate role. The front line fighters don’t have the fuel to stay in the fight as long unless they are all forward positioned and or taking off from carriers.

[@renyaoqin]

It can also be used as "forward obsevation post" at Guam. Relaying attack via satellite comms

[@D_2_M]

Range is case they have to go deeper and use for attacking not just defending

[@xuansu9036]

Range also allows an attack route that circles around to approach from unexpected directions

[@Ww6joey]

We’re looking at this incorrectly assuming it’s only role is to attack The range could also mean just staying in the air longer conducting data gathering.

[@SoCalFreelance]

Confucius says better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. 😁

[@creativeearthian1702]

BY FAR the best coverage of this matter. Really puts the scope of it into perspective

[@mateobaysa2055]

Uncle Xi’s response to Uncle Sam’s provocations in Taiwan. 😂

[@tungzauzage977]

A smokey kite, uncle sam is enjoying the joke. 6th generation weather baloons.

[@kumbackquatsta]

*pedo sam

[@刻刻帝-x3z]

@@tungzauzage977 发布一百条嫉妒仇恨言论换五角大楼拿出六代机，加油，没用的东西🤗🤗

[@YAS-dn6xn]

@@tungzauzage977 keep dreaming with your missed up spread out military that you cant even service without help🤣

[@333zzz-m4l]

@@tungzauzage977 山姆大叔的寿命不会超过三十年。会比印第安消失的更迅速和彻底。

[@zgvip]

由于歼36用的是第六代引擎（具体是爆震还是变循环还是哪种引擎，过一段时间就会公开），又有更好的隐身，航程，飞行高度，航速，载弹量，还有更好的AI人工智能和控制无人机等等的能力，所以称呼它为第6代战机，毕竟是中国先推出的，目前还没有第二个国家推出这种战机，不理解很多人在争论什么，难道第6代战机只能由美国定义？谁规定的？美国什么时候买了6代战机冠名权了？真逗。如果持有那种观点就很可笑了。中国鸣镝飞行器只用4吨就能变轨高速飞行8000公里，这甚至都相当于7代战机的技术了，中国定义6代战机当然是有资格的。如果制造不出更好的战机而只会说酸化，那他只会被别人笑。

[@Ken-p7j]

當年大清也有一套話語權，但終究沒用。現在美國也走在大清的道路上，葉赫那拉氏的詛咒。

[@DorJinTan]

​@@Ken-p7jthe tables have turned. We used to smoke opium. Now, they smoking copium..

[@SilentHermit9]

mate, a new video shows the H-20 just undergoing a test flight. I wonder where they will sit if they are deployed.

[@Jean-Marie-k1m]

Flying tofu made of Temu parts…can’t even retract its landing gears 😂

[@wumao6797]

Thanks for the in-depth analyzation n presentation.

[@comradeblin256]

Chinese learning from Japan's failure= Aircraft Carriers are temporary, land based assets is eternal. thus incredible range means you can gatekeep american carrier further from the mainland.

[@DMT-ix9zj]

They remind me of those hot wheel cars we used to play when we were kids back in the 60's Yup scary.

[@daniels0376]

8:45 I think there would be a second line of aircraft, around the AWACS, comprising frontline J10s, and behind, J11s with Beyond Visual Range Missiles, to rush forward and engage in dogfights if the formation is penetrated, ensuring numerical superiority.

[@christopherchen6170]

dogfight?

[@daniels0376]

@christopherchen6170 You don't know what a dogfight is or are you surprised that I'm mentioning it?

[@christopherchen6170]

@@daniels0376 im surprised that u mentioned it. just like dueling aint a thing no more dogfights aint a thing

[@daniels0376]

@@christopherchen6170 Right, because all fighters will just launch missiles from 200km away, right? Well, put it this way, if 2 formations are flying towards one another, and they start launching missiles at 150km away, then one of the formations turns to flee, but the other, instead of turning away, starts accelerating at Mach 2 towards them, they will be within 10km of one another within 2-3 minutes. The formation which is flying away will have to either turn towards the pursuing enemy and engage in a dogfight, or risk being chased and locked on from behind. And that's just one scenario. Another possible scenario is a formation of aircraft flying towards their target when they detect enemies flying towards them at supersonic speed from 50km away (range of radar detection is lower from the side). They 100% will need to engage in a dogfight because if they try to flee they will be locked on and destroyed. If the plane formation is large enough (50+ planes on each side) and one side wants to dogfight, then there will be a dogfight. Just because beyond range of sight missiles exist doesn't mean that air to air engagements at 1-10km won't happen anymore.

[@wonghonlong9391]

The US is now fully aware that Chinese advancements in aviation are far ahead of their predictions.

[@andrewt.5567]

Remember a year or two ago when china was told a US leader would be heading over in a regular airliner and the chinese still couldnt find them....

[@hughmungus2760]

Just like when the US assumed it would take china till 2030 to come up with their own sub-7nm semiconductors back in 2018

[@aybarsmeric]

Why do you need huge and stealth jets? To stay in the air longer, reach longer ranges, carry more loads. What can your opponent do? He focuses on developing platforms and weapons that will hit you from even longer ranges. He wants to attack from a greater distance and without taking risks. Or he focuses on drawing you in and ambushing you. You do something, your opponent makes another countermove. As this cycle continues, you think: It is expensive to produce and maintain military manned and unmanned combat platforms. It is more profitable to turn this business into smart munitions warfare. What happened? The cycle changed in favor of the side with the highest production power. It gave the advantage to the side that could sustain this for the longest time.

[@TheCbins]

If you had an intelligent adversary who had a proven record of being able to learn and adapt. These jets are not meant such an adversary, only for defense from aggressors.

[@朱俊华-o6k]

这就是军备竞赛的本质，你要投入海量的资源坚持到对手倒下。本世纪最残忍的擂台赛又开始了！

[@朱俊华-o6k]

夺取制空权后，它又成为极低成本的载具去摧毁地面和海面目标。

[@NogrimStoneson]

its basically going to act like a on station drone command and control point. imagine something like this in the context of ukraine, it hides up out of range hidden from radar controlling a small recon drone over its target, then just drops an fpv drone that can just glide down and remove the target. the shear size of this thing is going to allow for some very serious sensors and the ability to carry some very large drone munitions.

[@meanstavrakas1044]

Another reason the USAF should have chosen the YF-23 Black Widow instead of the F-22 Raptor!

[@antwango]

well US didnt envisage a formidable near peer juggernaught would appear out of the darkness stealthily over night.... US has been flaunting its wares to impoverished sand people in comparison

[@SoCalFreelance]

Agree, all the fancy air show / dog fighting acrobatics is pointless when long range capability is what's needed.

[@anotherbacklog]

And continue the mistake with the F35. The UK/Japan 6th gen literally is an updated YF23

[@kmwong1786]

But wasn't the MD-19 the first test flight of a hypersonic drone with alleged Mach 7 with lackluster media coverage?

[@清德賴-v7q]

MD-19 MD-20 MD-21 MD-22 MD-23 MD-24 MD-25 2024：MD-26 MD-27

[@hughmungus2760]

it was a scaled model test and the video was heavily edited so it was impossible to tell just how fast it travelled.

[@Mauro-n1z]

One aspect not mentioned in video is the data link capabilities of the to work with long range land and ship based anti aircraft missile systems.

[@RichardsMiscCorner]

I think these will also work towards countering rapid dragon, USAF tanker fleet and AWACs. US doctrine more or less assumes they have control over the skies.

[@walterhug2516]

you are correct, the US doctrine has become trash

[@antwango]

US didnt envisage a near peer juggernaut to appear overnight that has the smarts as well as the capability... now we will see how US upper management manage! from current evidence not very well!

[@DorJinTan]

Safe assumption. If ure fighting goat herders.

[@sarahkhan2310]

Excellent military aviation development. Very strong deterrence against hostile forces from faraway colonised lands and its enslaved allies. Salute to the team 👍❤️🇨🇳

[@ktrocknerd]

China is 🍑🕳

[@ktrocknerd]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWPIm6qAo8SEj5Ysi=J_ppiR5AlC5lE3cO lies, all lies

[@michaelgordon7554]

lol thye made a aircraft their own airforce will not use.. yes they did a good job making something no one including themselves want

[@Bytional]

That Rick Joe's view is nothing new, US has been doing that for some times with F35, because in today's environment old school AEWCs and Tankers have little chance to survive from long range AAM and 5th gen fighters, all frontline AEWC and Tanker planes must be somewhat stealth like F35 and MQ-9, otherwise your entire air logistics chain will be wiped out in hours when you fighting near-peer adversary. The basic idea of NAGD or 6th gen is complete replacing old school command chain, not a intermediary role, it must form a mesh network by itself and other NAGD figthers, command the UAV and other stealth tanker, fighters and bombers.

[@ryanhuang3875]

I think it is possilbe to put some active anti missile defence on tankers or aews than making them stealth

[@kenric1460]

Thanks for the video

[@papagolf2355]

The deepest secret is concealment...

[@johndoe8785]

That's why America hasn't brought out the aircraft this is based off of. The NGAD will 💩 all over this thing. That's 1 of 3 top secret 6th Gen programs we have right now.

[@lenxie4501]

ok guys relax,Chinese new year is coming,you all know we have the tradition to set up some fireworks during this period, just look up in the sky an enjoy the show.

[@mata_las_ranas]

Will there be a day when Americans see China’s 100-story buildings then say: In order to express America’s strength and advancement, we start building from the 101st floor, even though we don’t even have the first floor.😂😂😂

[@ryankubinski8789]

Literally makes no sense

[@Cosmic_Sage1108]

@@ryankubinski8789 it does make sense

[@BenVaserlan]

The 4th gen aircraft I compare the J-36 to is the MiG-31*: big, fast, carrying big long range missiles, and with a huge RADAR. If the MiG-41 eventuates, it will be interesting to see how it compares to the J-36. * = It operated in the intermediate zone acting as a mini-AWACs for Su-27s of the PVO. It had network warfare.

[@walkerken5]

This is not a 6th generation fighter. it's a bomber. Its wing span is 24 meters and fuselage 22 meter long. The aspect ratio is 6.38. Compared to 5th generation fighters, aspect ratio is all 2.5 or lower. A supersonic fighter aspect ratio must be 3.0 or less, because of the high speed requirement. This is the basic knowledge for an aerodynamic engineer.

[@loktom4068]

Engineers from the tents under the golden shower bridge 🌉 sounds pretty much full of BS. Go clean up the tent village.

[@Cosmic_Sage1108]

i know right. As a Chinese, this plane is just an edited version of the J20, we are a developing country and a 6th generation fighter jet is not easy to make. Stay calm. The Asian Air force ranking is actually: 1. South Korea, 2. Japan. We are only 3rd in the asian air force ranking. Chill

[@sctonio1466]

The aggressive approach is more favorable when air dominance is already established on the 1IC uncontested and the J36s and probably the J50s are the only assets to have the necessary range to contest the 2IC for air superiority. The conservative approach is more applicable on Taiwan and the 1IC at the start of a conflict. When both sides (US & China) are trying to measure one another and equally capable defensively/offensively that a focus on attrition is more likely to happen just like the Ukraine - Russia war until one side can no longer replace losses.

[@hughmungus2760]

an attritional war might be an issue because Im not confident china can prevent the US from hitting chinese defense production factories while it will be very difficult for china to hit the US mainland. China needs to hurry up with the H20 or develop its own version of the Oreshnik. Something that can pose a credible conventional threat to the US homeland.

[@sctonio1466]

​@@hughmungus2760Current US assets like the F35 is far too short range and most weapons in their investory are long range stealthy subsonic cruise missiles. For the US to even pose a true threat shooting Chinese facilities it has to park its CSG within China's ballistic missile range and established actual air dominance in the most heavily concentrated region with the most Chinese bases, sensors/detection, offensive and defensive assets designed from the get go to counter stealth and hypersonic threats in mass. Any US affiliated bases in the 1IC would be unusable as soon as the conflict starts, only on the 2IC can the US deploy their assets in relative safety as long as they fight tooth and nail for it relying mostly on tankers to extend F35 aircrafts et al range and sortie rate. This supersonic VLO J36 is pretty much a counter to the subsonic VLO B21 raider. If the US manage to hit any facility especially civilian ones in China that would be an escalation and an excuse for China to fight back via conventional fractional orbital bombardment with massive stocks of long range ballistic MIRV missiles and hypersonic gliders.

[@WorkingProleinc]

The Coping and Lamenting in the West,Since this Plane is Out,is outta Charts😂

[@walterhug2516]

Nervous disbelieve and fear are mounting daily

[@ktrocknerd]

China builds nothing but junk, to believe that this plane is anything other than propaganda is hilarious.

[@WorkingProleinc]

​@@walterhug2516indeed ol Chap. The One Country has Discipline Order,the Other Mental Gulag

[@WorkingProleinc]

​@@ktrocknerdYea..Yea...This is why you filth from West Shit you self in the Pants

[@ktrocknerd]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWPIm6qAo8SEj5Ysi=J_ppiR5AlC5lE3cO

[@chillyfoxinthebarn]

I suppose it's actual positioning depends highly on what level of altitude it can reach, if it can cruise above 25km, it would be extremely difficult for the opponent to target and attack it if at all possible, not from the air, not from the sea and definitely not from far off coasts, in that case, it is of greater advantage if it takes a more aggressive role.

[@宋学民]

根据MD22的测试，它可以轻松超过30KM，MD22的无人机测试上限是50KM，速度是7马赫。不过MD22是无人机，有人飞机的气动布局应该只能到5马赫。

[@MarkMiller304]

Think j-36 is the airplane equivalent of a special forces sniper

[@kathrynck]

J-36 is a big plane. I expect it will function similarly to an F-111 or B-58 in basic mission profile. But with stealth, and drone management. Kinda similar in "purpose metrics" to what's expected of the NGAD & FA-XX. Three engines could mean greater power generation as well though, which would be useful for DEWs. As well as offering better protection against a flat spin if there's an engine failure or flame-out (something which could be a greater risk for a rudderless aircraft).

[@tonbopro]

hmm China wins from having missiles with longer range

[@timothychung4811]

There is a you tube vlog (Defence 360°) showing the maiden flight of the H2 bomber released today.

[@filipzietek5146]

It doesn't make sense for this aircraft to sit in the back if it has such long range. If there are equally long range drones it can sit behind them but this is clearly long range asset and operating it from behind standard 5 gen aircraft wouldn't make sense.

[@宋学民]

也不是，它是以编队来行动，是一整个隐身编队，攻击11已经再次升级了。它就是专门来搭配隐身战斗机编队的。可以协助挂弹药，并且攻击11也改用旋转爆震发动机了，最大速度也打到了6马赫，虽然没有MD22更快，但是足够跟战斗机进行编队了。

[@wooopdiwoowoo2247]

this is a great vid

[@YAS-dn6xn]

westernes are not happy about this🤣🤣🤣

[@billyrotten8676]

if it werent for westerners chinese would be speaking japanese

[@petewilliam4295]

Methinks even the russians are laughing at this piece of rubbish. Crap engineering.

[@Cosmic_Sage1108]

@@billyrotten8676 your really talking about genocide huh? You want the argument to be larger?

[@Cosmic_Sage1108]

@@petewilliam4295 Russia is even more cooked than America

[@xuan-1122]

​​@@billyrotten8676如果你读过毛泽东的《论持久战》，你就会知道，中国并不需要美国的核弹帮助，也能够战胜日本，日本拖不起。 美国实际上窃取了中国的胜利果实，乃至整个二战的胜利果实，美国只是一个摘桃子的人，苏联对德国的胜利，已经被好莱坞篡改成美国对德国的胜利。 另外按照你的逻辑，如果没有中国的火药，西方还处在中世纪冷兵器时代😂

[@iamjustgreg]

I feel like the PLAAF will use any strategy that their war gamers see as viable on the changing battlefield, as such, they will have a wise strategy of multiple options on the table as the generals adjust in the moment. I also think that we haven’t seen the last advanced aircraft and 2025 has more in store.

[@sushiiii8903]

But I am confused, ENI, because China Observer just said these new Chinese stealth aircrafts are a complete joke and the China fact chasers Winston and Matt said these planes were a complete crap, help me, I'm so confused

[@CrzyD-cv8xz]

😂😂😂

[@CG4779-u7f]

don't ever believe whatever bs propaganda those 2 anti-China channels tell you - they will always tell untrue and false things about China.

[@RichardsMiscCorner]

ah that reminds me, i haven't watched China Observer's take on this. I'm sure it's hilarious

[@chingtuckmeng1122]

you pretend to be moronic

[@lijackson-x6r]

Human have "Five stages of grief", 1) Shock and denial; 2) anger and blame; 3) remediation and loss avoidance; 4)depression and distress; 5)acceptance and recovery

[@mbvgvskvrs868]

What's the exhaust smoke @ 01:14 all about?

[@joeweb5581]

Could have just been gotten on the throttle. Many engines at full throttle will smoke a smidge, or simply a test of starting an engine during flight.

[@hyhhy]

3 engines is very based, it's like some scifi spacecraft.

[@andrewt.5567]

And nothing to indicate it actually does anything.

[@hughmungus2760]

old Swat Kats fans be secretly smirking.

[@DorJinTan]

Seems like a 055 of d air... Wow.

[@raymond_beding_on_earth]

Don’t worry, the U.S. NGAD flied in 2020. The ppt in the United States is very powerful. Please donate money to support U.S.A.

[@kzh5443]

Should be D.S.A. for divided states of America 😂

[@TheCbins]

Donate money? they will waste it, like giving coins to an alcoholic or gambler. They need shoes.🤣

[@raymond_beding_on_earth]

The Pentagon will exaggerate the threat from the Chinese Dragon to make everyone automatically donate to the Pentagon from a fear-driven pattern. That's Pentagon‘s trick.😂

[@kzh5443]

@@raymond_beding_on_earth like gangster thugs asking the neighbourhood for protection money

[@JC.72]

BBC headline: but at what cost?

[@maddogy4645]

- Whether or not the Chengdu 6 gen fighter will be deployed at the very front of the line will depend on whether China will deploy 6th gen fighter-like AWACS UCAV’s to be at the very front acting as sensor nodes. If yes then the 6 gen manned fighter can hide behind the front line. If not, then the 6 gen manned fighter will have to be at the very front due to its superior sensor range as well as survivability, in this case PLA will have to acquire and deploy a larger fleet of such aircraft to account for attritions. - A primary set of targets are the 20 to 25ish B-2 and B-21 bombers deployed by the US to attack Chinese mainland and fleets. - The new KJ-3000 AWACS is likely to perform the actual calculations as well as commanding due to its larger computing power onboard as well as a larger comand staff headed by an air force general and possibly a naval staff as well. The 6 gen fighter is unlikely to be in command when KJ-3000 is available in the air. - PLA is working on a new ultra range AAM. Chinese semi-official podcast also mentioned future stealth aerial tankers as well as the H-20 bomber. The current UAV and UCAV deployed by PLA do not have the range to accompany the 3-engined Chengdu 6 gen fighter so they have to build a new 6 gen level UCAV just for Chengdu.

[@cywan8195]

The channel is very objective! Please don't tell the Americans too much about the chinese weapons! The Americans are not really to accept the truth! They will go mad!

[@allowing6668]

根本不在意美国想法……随便……🎉😂

[@michaelgordon7554]

they cant all they know is the proaganda china spits everytime it releases something then people like this channel spread the propaganda while braindead woke people like you actually believe "this time their not lying" despite them never being honest about what they make and what it can do. everytime its put into combat somewhere it breaks downa nd doest work or is 2-3 generations lower than it claims. thats whjat happened when you steal everyone elses stuff, make a super cheap copy then say "this is the best in the world" yet no one wants to buy their equipment but buy from the usa and nato... youre a moron chinese military even refuses to field it and want no part of it..........

[@lunchik2689]

The problem with the so called conservative engagement model is that you don't need a J-36 that role can be done by the J-20S the range and load out of the J-36 would indicate that stealthy flanking attacks to break up the incoming attacks for counter air is much more plausible otherwise its a waste. There's the saying in Chinese 'feed a soldier for a 1000 days to use him for one day' the idea that you build a super plane and hold it in the second echelon is one held by scribblers and pontificators not those that have to wage war. The Chinese don't want a war but if there is one they intend to win it quickly and decisively that's done by ensuring the enemy ceases to be able to attack so the hypersonic missiles will take out the airbases and carrier battle groups the stealth planes will remove the force multipliers and so even if the alpha strike gets pass the fighters and SAM wall to drop some thing they won't be able to get home. As things stand China's industrial base can out build the West's so if they smash the enemy even at a punitive cost they win.

[@robertwang7825]

China’s dominance in drones and unmanned aircraft of all types and applications and sheer numbers will give US a big headache. Also they have carriers for drones and larger aircraft carrying drones. The sheer numbers and applications will present a problem if they come wave after wave. Together with their hypersonic ICBM capability. You can see they are all geared to sink an aircraft carrier and its supporting fleet. They will have not hundreds but tens of thousands since drones are cheap and fast to produce. Have you seen their drone shows ? That’s swarm tech in practice , all flying in unison. I think what they are doing is if they attack Taiwan, the US carriers will not dare to sail near because of this clear threat. If they are able to sink one aircraft carrier, then it’s game over.

[@antwango]

EVERYBODY KNOWS! its only the western idiots not taking a hint till its too late! the J36 is redline 1 J50 redline 2 H20 THE REDLINE! heck China covering ALL of Taiwan shouldve been a MASSIVE hint to Japan, SKorea and the Phillipines!!! As well as their masters!

[@michaelgordon7554]

their drones have a 70% failure rate, look whats happened to saudi, iran and 2 other countries who spent 100s of millions on chinese drones. most crash to faulty circuits and parts breaking but its poorly design, made and cheapest material. they havent even seen combat and have a negative 40 kda

[@Team6OWG]

I think China will go for the more conservative approach, they really seem focused on the 'system of systems' but of course if push comes to shove and they need something to stop a surprise attack, they can move to an aggressive roll to disrupt the enemy formation.

[@BatbleSeed]

My kids used to make paper plane of f22, f15, etc. Now is shift to making j20, j35, j36, h20.

[@michaelgordon7554]

every one of those have been proven to be terrible which is evident by the fact no one buys them after inspecting them and isntead buy gen 4 and gen 5 from nato, which include brics memebers

[@TheHalusis]

Ive been pointing out that it doesnt have a weapons bay BUT now Lo and behold it all of a sudden has one

[@MullahSteinberg]

Hey Yankee please do not copy china. We are here first

[@andrewt.5567]

We know better than to copy that. Where do you think china got the design from? We put this in a folder called "secret" and the chinese get it. The morons actually built it...

[@namelessking8905]

This model is already 10 years old

[@antn8387]

I believe the triple engine configuration is capable of low earth orbit flight.

[@Mearex_]

China be pulling up to 2nd island chain like decepticons

[@MsOpineminded]

This should be called an Apex fighter...clearing the path for the rest to do damage using incisive interdiction

[@MS-wz9jm]

6th gen aerial warfare is very simple, in fact its much the same as 4th/5th generations. Its simply about BVR missiles. The only 5th generation fighter to participate in aerial warfare is the Su-57. Even in 4th generation there is only the Su-30, Su-35 and possibly the F-16 but it doesn't seem Ukraine is using them in aerial warfare. Before that you have to go back a long way to get to aerial warfare, pretty much back to Vietnam. No bombing people in the middle east who at best have assault rifles isnt aerial warfare.

[@NeuroScientician]

SU57 isnt exactly a functioning system How abouty F15, F18? Izrael seems to be using them in heavily AA covered places

[@walterhug2516]

Sorry, you didn't watch the video

[@anotherbacklog]

Long operational range, powerful radar, long range missiles, large payload, function as tactical reconnaissance, air superiority and interceptor, intended to go against groups of enemies, can also get close and dirty... sounds awfully familiar... Is it my imagination or the J36 sounds a lot more like the F14 tactically? Like firing the not-Phoenix missile from beyond enemy’s radar range. Whoever made this plane must be a true Top Gun fan.

[@Cosmic_Sage1108]

what is going on in your brain?

[@michaelgordon7554]

it has none of those, read saudis review of it on why they flat said no screw that we wil buy from france after inspecting the chinese jet

[@Therealstokely]

I'm not buying it

[@mirror452]

I don't think the plane is for sale anyway.

[@jameslum8822]

You won't be able to afford it.

[@zekeaffy9647]

Might be too grindy in Warthunder? yeah, its a new plane though. Maybe the price will be down in a few updates

[@90210CA]

That's not what that means. You must not be from America. 😂​@@mirror452

[@antwango]

LOL its not for sale you cant buy it even if you wanted to XDDD

[@bradgolding6847]

I would expect China to follow the conservative approach. It seems to make more sense to me, and I believe, the last thing China wants to do is throw away its hi-tech assets whilst the US/NATO forces, far from home, find them selves trying to overcome forces they have severely misjudged, particularly if someone sinks the odd US carrier or two. Great stuff as always ENI, thank you.

[@iansrven3023]

TDAD: Tofu Dreg Air Disaster..... propaganda released on a dictators birthday, what a crock of shite. 3 engines bahahaha, the maintenance and fuel costs alone will kill it

[@鄧楠-z6s]

世界各地的朋友们不要紧张，我们中国是爱好和平的国家，我们中国不会轻易的发动战争，所谓的第六代战斗机，那不过是第五代战斗机的改造版，是第五代战斗机plus，日本是最了解中国的，日本知道中国无论有多强大，都不会攻击日本，日本都不紧张，所以请世界各地的朋友们也不要紧张。

[@clarkchase28]

This really is not a surprise, however it is important to note, the Unites States have been flying there 6th plus gen aircraft since 2017 or so. These are prototypes and it really shows the direction of were future fighter aircraft appears to be going in the future.

[@Cosmic_Sage1108]

proof? video link?

[@MacanSiberia-mp1os]

Because China always keep it low secret, maybe maximum speed is march 5 🤣🤣🤣

[@bobonthis9520]

They'll be available on TEMU in the Spring of 2025 LOL !!!!!

[@Rusty-vl2oi]

U are so salty, take a big L

[@djinn666]

I don't see why it has to be either/or. If it sees a high value target, it may choose to close and engage by itself to maximize the possibility of success. Otherwise it will probably leave it to the UCAVs.

[@lexustexas5519]

This voice of this channel is truly scary.

[@JNo-sk5mz]

Are we thinking the ws-15 is in this?

[@mike-0451]

Nobody is ready? Buddy, USA has had this since 2020.

[@luihinwai1]

The J36 should be able to operate semi autonomously or remotely operated by a peer named J-36 behind the front line. I.e they act as drones that can be taken over operational remotely by the weapon officer of the maned J36 behind the frontline. If 1 maned J36 flys with say, 6 unmanned J-36. Then this becomes the system of systems with equal capability as 7 maned J36.

[@DF-xingruyu]

好歹配个字幕啊，我这英语早还给老师了

[@hughmungus2760]

Also you gotta love the PLA OSINT community. They do a better job presenting new tech to an uneducated audience than the best, most flashy Lockheed or Raytheon marketing department can.

[@michaelgordon7554]

except lockheed and the rest make actual equipment that work flawlesssly and can be sold world wide, china cant even sell its plane to the saudis who backed out of a 7 billion dollar deal with china for those opting to buy from the french instead while telling china"these cant compete with the us and is made the cheapest possible way, lower the price to aftermarket discount"

[@hughmungus2760]

@@michaelgordon7554 you say that but Lockheed and other US defense contractors have exported duds in the past. I recall the Saudis failing abysmally with US equipment in Yemen. The reason why people don't buy chinese is largely political. The US threatens anyone who buys from them to pull support for their equipment if they buy from a non-NATO country.

[@ecpgieicg]

5:20 Somehow every commenter talks about mission on Guam. (ENI said "around Guam" but others literally say attack on Guam.) Maybe that's a good distance yardstick? But strategically, it's much more interesting and useful to think about the potential of threatening tankers, AWACs, bombers etc beyond 1st island chain, making stand-off attacks on a potential Chinese landing fleet possible to intercept -- where it wasn't before. Interception takes more than just a plane type. Assuming the rest of the kill chain, it still will likely not stem all stand-off attacks but can potentially force their mission profile to be so inefficient that the volume is constrained. That's huge in light of the strategic outlook on Taiwan scenario. Meanwhile, launching ALCM on Guam is whatever. How could that be worth the development of a new plane? (Ofc it's not.)

[@TheCbins]

FREE GUAM! --wiki; the younited crates captured Guam on June 21, 1898.

[@cupgunner]

im sure maintenance crews will love having to deal with three engines

[@chadthebuilder5531]

The rick Joe is best

[@craigywaigy4703]

Great vid - But I think we're all forgetting about. The 3rd dimension in aerial combat. And this may be WHY we have a Large intake. THIRD engine.... Perhaps we're looking at a SCRAMJET engine for EXTREME altitude flight profiles up to. 200Km, which makes LOOK.DOWN RADAR much more usable as the reflective angle are increased by orders of magnitude for Stealth aircraft...... Essentially a high performance TR3B Leo aircraft - China has done a lot of recent research on space planes...... This also makes the potential range GLOBAL...

[@wessleymcburnie5181]

I think it's a multi role aircraft. It work both ro.ez.

[@kalliste23]

How conservative they need to be will depend on the number able to be deployed.

[@johnsmith1953x]

*NEWSFLASH: There are now video clips of China's H-20 stealth bomber in flight released today 1/4/2025* Are these real ?!?!

[@hughmungus2760]

looks kinda sketchy, the perspective and the motion of the aircraft doesn't line up, sorta like someone composited CGI over a real recording. The lack of corroborating evidence makes it extra sus.

[@shimadwan8251]

A pack of flying long range SAM System + anti-ship carrier killer like MiG-31BM

[@Jpm463]

Please do a video on H-20. The videos on 微博 make me terrified.

[@chainizi]

"Who is most afraid of war now? The Pentagon!"

[@namelessking8905]

With the people who foam as the mouth over the profitability of war? They are thanking China now. They are getting the funding.

[@richbrown9690]

So is this 3 6th gen planes displayed this year and one stealth bomber in January alone :O China is making movesssss

[@bvusjxlee3941]

US: Since we can't get ahead technologically, let's change the definition, let's 🤓👆 change the Wikipedia entry first