How will combat work in Age of Sigmar 4?

[@connorclifford]

The drawings were dank as fuk

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Helpful?

[@connorclifford]

@thehonestwargamerstreams Very. Great for understanding the changes. Keep up the great work!

[@josephrylands6318]

Just here for the cow. More cows or I'll unsubscribe. Ransom for cows

[@greyboi9550]

40k fans: oh god no, new rules. Aos fans: hell yeah new rules!

[@willd5328]

New rules in 40K usually means GW is taking something that works and then breaking it.

[@shorelessskies]

You’re doing a great job. I started reading that article then my adhd ass said “fuck it. I’ll wait for Rob to explain it to me” 😂

[@devindraper7905]

Lost it at "Mooove" - I'm a grown man in an office building Rob, I can't be giggling like this at your whimsy.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Hahahaha but also LETS GOOOOOO

[@yourgoodliness]

The continuing standardization of terminology in the rules is extremely refreshing. I look forward to any wacky tech introduced by the new pile-in and retreat rules! :) Oddly enough, this new abstraction of wound allocation is more immersive to me than having all damage go to one model until it goes down. "Stop bullying Bob the Varanguard, he's already so wounded." The consolidation of universal rules like anti-charge into the weapon profile just makes sense, as well as making generic "anti-infantry" type abilities boilerplate.

[@Daerthe22]

Those keywords on weapons are so good, providing that extra flavour and making some unique weapons actually feel unique.

[@Kylossus3E]

Your Insight on this is interesting as always, love the videos

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Very much appreciated

[@s6pavey]

Another property of this is that 25 mm bases will not be able to congo line base to base. I use that a lot with my SBGL.

[@Leviticushateford]

Rob! Thank you for all your hard work on these videos for AoS. 4ED. They allow busy dads that play casual and get to maybe 2 tournaments a year keep up with all the changes...these have been the best set. I hope when the full rules come out you will do more. Cheers!

[@alecmulinder5759]

All these vids are so helpful. I was trying to learn AOS 3 and struggling then they scrapped it anyway, but this is great for a rookie like me to try and learn a new edition’s rules before they are fully released. And you explain it really well.

[@galvaro3090]

Thank you for the cow pic, it really helped a lot ❤

[@thesoothsayer9223]

Since Doombulls are getting MOOved to another game, Rob needs to rebrand them as the Moovebull and be used to explain movement in AOS4

[@adamjohn3839]

You do amazing work! I’m holding off learning age of Sigmar until the new edition is released, all these videos are making me so exited to start playing Warhammer!

[@akutch564]

Rob, your 4th edition videos have really been killing it. They are very helpful for catching the nuance.

[@Masterlink53]

The pictures were so good, they were emotionally mooving.

[@angelicdespot2735]

Really helpful video, thanks. And as a very new player, these changes sound sensible and improvements that will make the game easier to learn and more 'feels right'.

[@mistformsquirrel]

I'm pretty into this. Still a little concernd about the lack of mentions of Allies or Coalitions; but everything they've shown us so far is giving me enough positive vibes that I'm going to trust them for now.

[@traiantulbure3819]

These are my favourite changes so far. Super happy to hear save stacking is going. Love limited shooting in combat. Pile in sounds better. Also looks like units are being given clearly defined roles. I’m a big fan of the specific weapon abilities and units being stronger or weaker against certain other unit types. Ps great vid. The drawings were 👌

[@alexcannobbio710]

So far 4.0 is looking amazing for me. Im a casual player, and rules like the 1 inch range to attack, battleshock, heroic actions, only made it harder to learn the game and interrupted the natural flow (for someone learning such as me). Every aspect i didnt like about the game is being removed or simplified, which should also shorten match length (it took me about 5 hours for a 1.000pt game). Warscrolls are clearer and not as overwhelming for big heroes like Nagash and probably Archaon, unit stats feel more thematic and list building provides more freedom

[@emdee0014]

Sounds like a lot of rules pulled over from old fantasy battle. Kinda cool. Looking forward to trying it out.

[@spiritofgroot1999]

I’m loving these breakdowns thank you

[@Anjouvis]

ROB these videos are SO good for helping me understand these articles!!!! THANK YOU!!!!

[@Threnodist1]

I'm really hoping that they shifted SCE to be much more elite instead of the middle of the road baseline. Something like 5 liberators for 180 points. Balance around that.

[@Dotification]

Judging from the warscrolls for the Liberators, StormS. Chariots, & Vindictors... not enough of a glow-up to match their lore quite yet--my guess is GW doesn't want their noob-oriented flagship army to also be a low-model count army. So... like almost everything, a business decision. I think part of the issue is they get matched up against hordes more in the lore than they do in-game. Libs & Vinds are going to see more badass wading thru weaker BattleLine 'equivalents' like marauders, clanrats, skeletons, & chainrasps than dueling Chaos Chosen or Kroxigor.

[@GreatMachination]

Skaven making sneaky retreats, sounds like fun. Great to see them back. Sneaky mooooves? I gotta have it, baby!

[@dr.d3039]

I love how you’re moving your visuals along!

[@KurisuFenrisWolf]

I require that 'Critical Hito' soundbite for personal use.

[@Jpipooly]

For all the disappointment flowing out of GW and certain parts of the hobby, 4.0 is looking amazing

[@lionman8295]

Agreed! I was worried they were gonna ruin it like they did with 10th, but it actually maybe looks good?! 😅

[@RAWxxx07]

Totally agree

[@Flkt42]

Agree, moving to AOS from 40k now. 40K design team just sucks compared to AOS

[@marcanderson6034]

Better than 40K at this point

[@Jacob-ec9og]

Just don't bring your 40k toxicity when coming over. We doing our own thing over here & don't need the poison from 40k & fantasy players.

[@jorgecastillomolero1998]

Pictures were the best of the video. Loved the cows

[@emiliogonzalez9555]

I'm here as well. Sitting like a goblin, getting all that knowledge. Juicy knowledge

[@OfPeas]

Really fun to watch these videos and read the comments. :). I really need to snap out of my funk because each time I see warscrolls and new changes I see some positive but keep thinking of stupid things. :D Like Kroxigor you don't want to attack with large blocks of infantry, you don't want to charge Vindictors. Liberators are now kinda blah for me simply because they get mortal damage on 6's yet Vindictors can possibly get Strike-First if they've been charged, and with 3" range, easier to get much more damage. Now I'm not a tournament player, very much a casual player, but I keep feeling that depending on battletomes and such, factions and the game is going to feel very linear in regards to decision making. This unit goes against this unit, this unit against that. And hopefully each faction is balanced well enough that you have enough choices to build well balanced lists. Curse my stupid negativity! (Really love the new shooting rule though.)

[@thesoothsayer9223]

4th core book needs Rob sidebars and diagrams. Like that Paper Clip in MS Office

[@aswig9625]

Love the high quality infograhics. Highlight of the vid... 🤣

[@bennconner1195]

I like the fact that they are giving unit types more defined roles. Previously this was lacking in AoS.

[@joeharrington7170]

Great breakdown, thank you from all new players!

[@kinglyer5640]

This video needs more cow bell!!

[@robertbrook574]

Love the pics, my only issue is that the conga line in the middle is out of coherency. I think they said in a previous article that units of 7 or over have to be within 1/2" of 2 other models, right?

[@morganbeale7954]

Interesting that you have to roll for your strikes first, strikes last etc. It seems much more common in what they’ve teased so far than currently? Maybe 4th will lean heavily into ‘gamblers edition’ 🎲

[@connendarf3857]

Loved the drawings, especially the cows! What I wanna know is what the difference between normal and mortal damage is. It looked like normal damage carries over to other units, since it says damage on a unit is equal to the health, rather than equal to or greater then

[@paulshaw3907]

My guess is that mortal damage ignores saves

[@TheBuske]

Would love a 'after pile-in' cow picture, otherwise, love the work

[@jameswilson6328]

great breakdown rob, please do more :-)

[@andrewcalvert4854]

Udderly brilliant breakdown of the changes.

[@JackCawood]

Love the cows. Need more cows in your shows in the future. :)

[@pythongrail]

There is a 99% chance the scroll for liberators that they’ve shown is only for the unit that comes in the launch boxes, and when the whole army rules comes out they’ll have options. It’s happened in every starter sets recently, AOS and 40k

[@Derogue23]

This is exciting news, thanks for sharing! (Which is cool)

[@GeekySkippy]

I can’t wait to mooove into this game system.

[@dingo_dog]

I think that they mean with "no more start/end turn abilities" is refered only to combat phase. There is only reaction command abilities that works in combat phase (at least in the core rules) and only non-reactions CA works in the end of phase.

[@CNMarion31]

All I've learned from this video: gw dumped beasts of chaos for thier new faction: cows of chaos. Thanks Rob

[@BeastWreck]

Very excited about 4th edition (even though I’m relatively new to playing and am just now getting the hang of 3rd edition)!

[@MarkoFTW]

I dont know why, but those cows have eeary similarity to Rob. The same dedicated look in eyes. Said with much love to Rob and his amazing work!

[@cullenasaro2229]

So far all of the rules previews for AoS4 have been great. I’m super happy with AoS3 and I was wondering how they could make it better without ruining what we have, and honestly I feel like AoS4 is doing it so far. The commands are amazing, the tightening up of the rules is great so far. I just NEED to see what scoring/misssions/battle tactics feels like. Current battle tactics don’t really amaze me, and the faction specific ones create brutal “haves” and “have not” scenarios.

[@monsterclown4455]

it really feels like 3th but refined, so far this new edition is looking promising, hope they don't mess up warscrolls too much.

[@woofergranade2044]

To more tricky pile ins that get you out of combat with the unit that isn’t the closest. Getting flanked is more brutal than ever.

[@danielarmstrong3192]

Pictures are always helpful over just words. 👍

[@TrebleAmp]

Always wanted to play AOS. This seems like a good time to learn

[@Andy2D6]

All sounds promising so far.

[@willd5328]

I found the diagrams helpful!

[@Childhood.87]

Moooooov was greatly explained❤

[@tempy2440]

High key retreat is too permissive for my tastes, I'd prefer if it was when declared, enemies in engagement may make attacks on the retreating unit if they haven't attacked this phase or attack with a quarter of the models in engagement if they have

[@hickdead6188]

You mentioned you would like to put out a video breaking this all down and making it easier to understand, would you please use a board and some minis like you did in your screening video. I find it so much easier to work out what's going on if I can see it happening on the tabletop. Caveat! Screw that noise if it makes it a lot of work

[@ryanmaloney8161]

The mooooving picture where great

[@CelebrintaR]

We hope the cow appears in the next videos until release date. Thanks very muuuuuch! 🐮

[@AzurielMist]

Is everyone getting a warscroll/ army update on launch of 4th? As the retreat mortals cost would be horrendous for nighthaunts doing a retreat/ charge with their low wound count o.0

[@jamesmicklewright2892]

I've never played AoS, haven't played any large scale Warhammer games for about 10 years. AoS with it's reactive system is making me buy kruleboyz off eBay - hoping to dip my toes in

[@abzhasan8322]

Looks like the stars aligned for me, been going back and forth between 40k and AoS for a while, I prefer the AoS model range. AoS 4th edition came at a good time.

[@pierre-louisseneca8331]

About coherency, from what I understand is that each unit needs to be 1/2" away from another. No mentions about if there needs to be units vertically. So in theory, we can see again 20 Saurus warrios in a line to make a screen. Am I understanding that right?

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

You need units over 7 to be within half an inch of 2 models

[@orzech1080]

Please, can we have more pictures when you explain any UDDER new mechanics?

[@Ghost_council]

Came for his views, stayed for the cow!

[@Orkimedes-sc8ef]

I watched the release of Skaventide as a 40k player and now here I am..!

[@TheKeinash]

I think I’m most exited about unit specialisation

[@massimorolli4414]

Now I need an army of cows.... and BoC are gone! 😞

[@mistformsquirrel]

Alas, there is no longer a cow level

[@daisuke133]

Lumineths are there for you, mate.

[@egorseredkin9308]

milkcast cowternals

[@LucasHahn-z8j]

How do we know how many models get to fight? I didn’t see a range on the weapon profiles.

[@simonlarge2052]

I know I’m not the only one who giggled at “pull out and take D3 damage”

[@davidcallier9679]

All hail the combat cow!

[@Juicyjim57]

Have to be honest, as a BoC player, seeing those cows really hit hard 😢 I'm still not actually sure if I'm going to pick up a new army for 4th yet, but the changes do seem mostly positive.

[@Adclif]

While waiting for my Knights codex, I think some AoS4.0 will make a nice Birthday present to myself.

[@Serra7racon]

TBH: I don't think this new Weapon Profiles are that much better. I like that I don't have to break my mind how to be flexibel in special Weapons and so on, but it is not really less complicated, just a bit more streamlined and squeezed in one side of a paper. But its not less complicated, you still have 3-4 special abilities depending on your Loadout. As we see for Nagsh, very uniqe special rules are still there and will show on Warscrolls all around. They just steamlined some things like specials on hitting 6s and/or wounding 6s. Lots of glamour but not the biggest change in the warscroll i have the feeling. For Phases, Rob already said it. "There aren't any subphases anymore, but there are..." Why would you even write subphases are gone, but you just brought in Strike first... wich is exactly what opens a subphase...

[@space_bees]

How health is removed makes me hopeful that troggoth regeneration will make them even more resilient

[@MeridenFrost]

Are we going to see a continued power increase with this edition?

[@oldman747]

I love the complexity of the pile in, not a fan of not shooting into combat.

[@lloydjamieson2143]

Mooovellous!!

[@earnestwanderer2471]

Time will tell, we shall see. GW said a lot of things about what was happening with 40k 10th that didn’t actually pan out.

[@CatharsisChaser]

Thankfully the design teams are completely separate, although the media team will treat them all the same 4.0 already looks head and shoulders better designed over 10th Agreed that we’ll see though

[@theDackjanielz]

i really want to know what other FIGHT abilities exist other than the ability to pile in mooo000ooove

[@justincrandall3747]

I think we need moooore of those diagrams

[@MeridenFrost]

Swop, Non- active player for the re-active player

[@bulletscrewed]

I am confused with multicharge. So if I charge 3 units. One of them has strike-first ability. What would be the order: First uses fight ability my strike-first unit, then I pick my unit who was charging (any of the two), after that my opponent picks a unit to fight, after that my second unit, who charged this turn. Is it correct?

[@RealJahzir]

Cows should be the next AoS faction introduced.

[@paulrabone2310]

Just a rules clarification, are those Cows with Guns?

[@LukeMartinVideo]

I still just hope they showed the new stormcast before the ones going away... Still pretty excited for this new version.

[@DablHelix]

We need Mooore cow references in AoS!

[@bdog6160]

Man reads rulebook has evolved!!!

[@edwincross4984]

I think these changes are very positive. Pleased it’s not all doom and gloom!

[@marinapfanzelt468]

The mooovment cows are so cute.

[@Monkeyhead72]

Changes are great. but as some armies wont get updated for12 to 24 months i wish they would just wait the 24 months and actually update the game for everyone, not just stormcast.

[@Rhuiner]

I wonder how many people got triggered by the use of cows after just losing their BoC army?

[@maciejkapaczynski6601]

more cows! more critical hitto!

[@mrpoketokyo]

Moo moos were OP ❤

[@AskJakeChemistryVideos]

Mooooooooove ❤

[@PowerPilgrim]

The drawings were moonificent.

[@CreatorGatorYT]

The thing I'm most excited about is the removal of the "Start of Phase" and "End of Phase" and have made it much easier to understand when things happen.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

theres 7 phases in combat

[@Kylossus3E]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams Shouldn´t it be 9 even ? With Strike first and -last being divided by active and non-active player again technically ?

[@CreatorGatorYT]

I see what you're saying, but you're going to confuse a lot of people by saying "7 phases of combat" when really it's more an order of operations with fights first/last rather than it's own separate phase, depending on how rare they are (I'm aware they gave us a fights first and fight last on basic troops units in this article alone) Also it's the Hero Phase which gave me so many issues for" Start of Phase" that it became taxing.

[@johnymiller7245]

Comment for the Cow ! check !

[@SOHellKite]

Thanks for explaining this bud :) I’m dumb and can’t read