Lets talk about Spearhead!? My first Impressions

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@TombKingTristan
@TombKingTristan 7 ай бұрын
Like this comment if you think Rob only owns one flannel.
@sebastiencarrieres8825
@sebastiencarrieres8825 7 ай бұрын
He owns 3. They all the same.
@Perkustin
@Perkustin 7 ай бұрын
Yes but it's triple reversible.
@djludowici536
@djludowici536 7 ай бұрын
Incorrect. He has all the flannels in every colour scheme available
@Orkimedes-sc8ef
@Orkimedes-sc8ef 7 ай бұрын
You don't need more than the one
@lukevassh7740
@lukevassh7740 7 ай бұрын
As a fellow flannel fan I can say this man's flannel choices are fantastic and diverse. Flannel on. 🤘
@Est1987ish
@Est1987ish 7 ай бұрын
The mentality that everyone has a lunch break long enough or even people at their work who also collect warhammer is wild...to use it as a main selling point just baffles me 😂
@Thaumatolgist
@Thaumatolgist 7 ай бұрын
I assume their rationale is how to pitch the game to current players not new players. They have historically not had much success getting players to adopt alternate play styles - Boarding Action or whatever that recent 40K one was, etc.
@shorelessskies
@shorelessskies 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I imagine James Workshop kicked back in a tufted leather chair, sniffing a fine aged glass of nuln oil, going, 'Surely they all have leisurely, two hour lunch breaks don't they? How else are they going to have time to dine on their catamarans?' That or GW is so insular that just because they typically have people paying games on lunch breaks they genuinely *don't know* that it doesn't happen at most jobs.
@ARCThunder
@ARCThunder 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, as an American who works in a hospital, I'm lucky if I even get to enjoy my 30 minute lunch break at all. Although I do, strangely, have a few coworkers that either own and play Warhammer or are at least interested in it.
@martinjrgensen8234
@martinjrgensen8234 7 ай бұрын
I think my future boss will say no if I asked for a lunch break long enough, and a table to play spearhead on😂
@guyarmon9410
@guyarmon9410 7 ай бұрын
Its "lunch brake" in the sense that they are playtesting and not in the desk Its not that unconventional thing to do
@jacobkuglar8857
@jacobkuglar8857 7 ай бұрын
Most real view of Spearhead I've heard so far, much appreciated. I will say from my perspective, I often don't get the time to play a full game of AoS. A game with deep playability and variance that I could 'Knock out in a lunchbreak (which really is just like 1hr playtime)' is a major appeal to me personally. I'm looking forward to giving it a go myself.
@robc1773
@robc1773 7 ай бұрын
EXACTLY! The first selling point should be: two spearhead boxes can battle against each other. The end. Underneath that it should be 'it's a great quick and easy way to battle your friends even across a lunch break.'
@EPGelion
@EPGelion 7 ай бұрын
Second, maybe third, time listening to this episode and I've got a couple new thoughts on Spearhead (mostly marketing). GW could also be pushing Spearhead as a viable way for veteran gamers to get a taste of a new army without buying all the way up to 2000 points and an army book, much the way they pitched Kill Team 2018. Second thought, much less grandiose, is that Spearhead should be two boards, not one, to give at least some room to maneuver.
@mattyno964
@mattyno964 7 ай бұрын
Isnt everyone getting too hung up on 'lunch break' - i think the point is it's quicker and easier to get through than full scale aos or 40k
@martinmountford1981
@martinmountford1981 7 ай бұрын
Yes it's incredible, I would have thought most people would be like huh an hour for a game and not care about the lunchbreak part it's weird to get fixater on that. The way I see it it will most likely be 90 mins so I can get a game in after the kids have gone to bed.
@djludowici536
@djludowici536 7 ай бұрын
I love when they put brand new minis in a dark area back to front. Super immersive!!
@adaml2910
@adaml2910 7 ай бұрын
a potential pitch might be a tournament in an evening? 4 players get together with some beers, quick 3 game round robin, takes 3-4 hours, maybe a final, 5 hours total?
@jgray196
@jgray196 7 ай бұрын
I did think the "game over lunch" was reflective of it being the only time they could get anyone not in the rules writing team to playtest for them. Overall I'm enthused, the pick up a box and play is such a great pitch. As someone who has only just got back into the hobby after 20 years, I've been focusing on the painting side of things because the barrier to entry on the gaming side seems huge. 2000 points is a lot to aim for, list construction is so daunting when you don't know the rules. I like the point about it being more like a boardgame, makes it feel more accessible as a starting point that you can then iterate up to various points once you've found your feet and get into wargaming proper. I'm hoping to pick up a seraphon box because of the amazing minis (that I'd be buying to paint anyway) and have it as my foot in the door of the gaming side of things. Also had the idea of an event where you draw a random army at the start of the day. Putting the emphasis on skill and adaptability rather than list writing.
@aaronriggan2373
@aaronriggan2373 7 ай бұрын
We have a number of players eager to play AoS, but don't have the cash to build straight into a 2K army. So at my store, I'm planning on running a spearhead league to get folks interested and to help expose them to all the various factions etc. Once the Spearhead league is over, we can spin it off into an escalation league to turn those spearheads into a full 2k army.
@marcussachse9353
@marcussachse9353 7 ай бұрын
Wish I had a guy like you running spearhead in local shop also. Lets see if I can find someone to play with in a small town 😂
@djludowici536
@djludowici536 7 ай бұрын
Agreed two starter boxes is the best pitch. That’s what my friends have been getting excited about.
@HappyDuude
@HappyDuude 7 ай бұрын
I think both pitches work - the lunch pitch for me in taking as, 'this is a game you can play in about an hour' - which is a huge draw for me (if accurate). The starter box approach is also huge, because list building is very intimidating
@Hedonite
@Hedonite 7 ай бұрын
Thankfully. List building is much much simpler this edition you'll catch on quick
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 7 ай бұрын
I suppose after a few games and experience, it is very possible to play within an hour
@jeffreysort7219
@jeffreysort7219 7 ай бұрын
“I’m gonna eat my lunch.” Leave it to Rob to speak for me again.
@Fortunes.Fool.
@Fortunes.Fool. 7 ай бұрын
In my office there’s a run on the 1 microwave and you gotta get in there before someone microwaves fish. There should be a special circle of hell for people who microwave fish in an office.
@cml4914
@cml4914 7 ай бұрын
I usually try to empty my brain on my lunch break. Thank you for the thoughtful insights to spearhead. It definitely makes it more tempting to pick up some new armies for sure.
@bentleyhunter9370
@bentleyhunter9370 7 ай бұрын
As a Warcry player, I'm really intrigued by Spearhead. A single Spearhead can provide a warband for Warcry too, and both games being able to share boards and terrain creates opportunity to do some cool stuff. Like you can do a mini one shot campaign where you start with a Warcry warband and then switch to Spearhead, all while fighting over the same board, maybe with a branch path that adds a Twist based on who won/lost last game (like determining attacker/defender or changing a terrain feature). Playing a 3-4 match tournament for Spearhead is cool too, but the meta is going to get solved quick and I don't see GW giving it much support besides more Spearheads and battlepacks. So the fixed precon aspect will end up being detrimental to it on a competitive level unless battlepacks can shake things up enough. At least Spearhead makes me a bit more likely to try AoS.
@marcussachse9353
@marcussachse9353 7 ай бұрын
Yes! As im just gettin back in to warhammer after 15 years I have to point out the gradually growing your army potential. I have a plan to start with warcry, expand to spearhead and then all the way to the main aos games. I think its kinda good system in that regard
@HobbyJackal
@HobbyJackal 7 ай бұрын
Equally waddling towards this from the Warcry angle. Super exciting :)
@GlassHalfDead
@GlassHalfDead 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the lowdown! I look forward to trying out some spearhead, building those parts of my armies first before moving onto larger battles!
@TheSirMime
@TheSirMime 7 ай бұрын
We played the S2D vs GSG table. The chap running it was really good. Felt like the knights on that sized board were absolutely bonkers.
@HellstormWargaming
@HellstormWargaming 7 ай бұрын
3:55 I’m like 90% sure the AOS 4 demo was larger than the spearhead boards. I think it was the same size as 2 boards. So you can probably take away that 1 board - Spearhead size 2boards - 1000pt game size (likely less pts in the skaventide boxes but that’s the next size up 4boards- 2000pt pitched battle
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
You might be right! Relying purely on memories is lame
@getorix1
@getorix1 7 ай бұрын
Thanks rob, been looking forward to hearing first thoughts on spearhead. Sounds decent enough for me to play whilst i build up my first 2k army.
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
Id says that's certainly true
@m.e.3862
@m.e.3862 7 ай бұрын
I can see the lunch hour pitch being aimed at younger players in high school or college. This is the type of game I’d play over my high school lunch hour especially in the winter. Also good for after school too
@THX-to6gg
@THX-to6gg 7 ай бұрын
This is the best understandable explanation of Spearhead I’ve heard so far, thanks. I wonder if two Kill Team boards would be better.
@dr.d3039
@dr.d3039 7 ай бұрын
I was expecting two kill team boards, like combat patrol. I hope they do a multiplayer variant in white dwarf that’ll use two boards / half table, like they did recent for combat patrol
@Crunch2327
@Crunch2327 7 ай бұрын
Ive never had a job where playing a game on a tabletop during lunch was practical or feasible.
@silverfortune2205
@silverfortune2205 7 ай бұрын
Yeah the old pitch is weird but I will say spearhead is 100% the best avenue for getting people into age of sigmar. Instead of worrying about having 1000 points or more of units AND learning the rules, the army of near 500 points and army rules are already picked out. So from there it's learning the core rules. If both players are familiar with AoS I can easily see spearhead being a 1.5 hour game on average. One thing a friend of mine wants is a faster game format that doesn't take 3+ hours to do. Looks like spearhead is right up his ally and I can easily enjoy it too!
@MalignMusings
@MalignMusings 7 ай бұрын
Good vid, nice review. Quick games are a good thing occasionally. The survivorship bias fable is that when the air force were looking at where to armour planes they examined planes that had returned for where the bullet holes were, and they were on the wings and on the mid fuselage. The initial assumption was that these areas should be armoured, until someone pointed out that the reason for these planes returning is that if a plane is hit in the tailfins or in the cockpit, then it doesn't return, so they added armour to the tail and under the cockpit and engines... Confirmation bias is where people assign more weight to data that confirms the working hypothesis and devalues data that opposes the working hypothesis.
@neem377
@neem377 7 ай бұрын
RIP Oscar can't believe they let Ron get away with that
@adamjohn3839
@adamjohn3839 7 ай бұрын
I’m most excited about this as the board size means you can play it on an average sized table at home.
@mrkapowski8507
@mrkapowski8507 7 ай бұрын
The size of the board was my biggest concern. I've played "box vs box" AOS games on a Combat Patrol board (2x Spearhead) and that felt ideal, TBH.
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
That's a good idea
@csmonkey1701
@csmonkey1701 7 ай бұрын
On Saturday my son got to play a full game. 4 Battle Rounds. He was Nurgle vs Sylvaneth player. Took them about 1.5 hours. He was skeptical at first but said he really had fun. Some of his units didn’t drop until round 3, which balanced the armies and allowed him to capture objectives.
@Dotification
@Dotification 7 ай бұрын
This is the kind of content that you excel at Rob; independent & insightful! I worry that other content creators that were personally invited to attend a demo are being a bit too gracious in their Spearhead takes so far. Spearhead feels a bit too much like an "on-ramp to new/existing players starting new AoS armies & field test a new BT/CA card system for us" than anything that will be supported for long term independent play. Reusing their interior playtesting pitch of playing over [time] on their casual lunches & reusing the too small WarCry boards also stands out.
@hugheja89
@hugheja89 7 ай бұрын
Are all the objectives always active for spearhead? I like how in Shatterpoint the active objectives change for each round. Adds to the variety.
@JesseDiMauro
@JesseDiMauro 7 ай бұрын
You can tell they have no idea how to market to the US audience because we don’t get lunch breaks.
@Mister_Massar
@Mister_Massar 7 ай бұрын
Two starter armies against each other, that’s how bolt action was sold to me n got me into it over 10 years ago, glad they are finally catching up
@TrulyLoathsome
@TrulyLoathsome 7 ай бұрын
I get thirty minutes for my lunch, minus five minutes each side to actually make it to the break area. Any chance they can make an even streamlinerer version? Speartip maybe?
@Ayeohx
@Ayeohx 7 ай бұрын
Yes, just the tip please.
@foreverfornever1124
@foreverfornever1124 7 ай бұрын
Genuinely excited for Spearhead! Already picked up the StD and Seraphon boxes as those will be armies I eventually start in future editions. It seems to me Combat Patrol was the testing grounds for Spearhead considering Spearhead actually has its own rulebook too. 40k doesnt necessarily need a quick game mode to interest new players or players new to a faction as thats their bread and butter and majority of their profits. Spearhead looks more thought out and fleshed out to encourage new players to AoS. I think 4th edition will see a huge boom in the community and player base all across their games even Warcry and Underworlds however long those are still around.
@christopherschlegel6412
@christopherschlegel6412 7 ай бұрын
I'm really hopeful for the format. My ideal competitive experience is one which has next to no list building at all and can be played many times in a single day in order to test out tactics or get to a single undefeated player in a single day tournament. I love building lists for aesthetics, but i dont enjoy the "production meta" so having a single box that i can paint and play all edition is glorious. I just hope its good enough to convince people to play it
@TombKingTristan
@TombKingTristan 7 ай бұрын
Rob is the tip of the spear, if you get my drift.
@ianponting782
@ianponting782 7 ай бұрын
Not the shaft?
@adamsboringvids
@adamsboringvids 7 ай бұрын
Just the tip
@lurk1o
@lurk1o 7 ай бұрын
Also had 7pm demo and saw honest wargamer there but did not know who he was until I got home enjoying the content and now subscribed to the channel, I also only got two turns in the hour but as I have never played more than 2 games of warcry as a beginner I found it a nice enjoyable pace and would expect the game to run for about 2 hours. it would take me a little while longer to understand all the rules, I can also see this being a nice stepping stone to playing aos 4th edition and can see me picking up a couple of spearhead boxes to play in the future
@ChrisJones-vf8dy
@ChrisJones-vf8dy 7 ай бұрын
The pitch shows they are out of touch, ( a wider society issue as well ) I have a 30 min dinner break ( Lunch ) that just isn't long enough for almost anything. UK employment law says we can have one 20 min break once we have worked over 6 hours so I am getting more than the law requires but still no where near enough to play Warhammer. Still I am excited to try spearhead as a quicker version because me and my casual friends can take up to 6 hours for an AoS game, some of it due to ourselves but we are never alone ( kids ).
@AJratcliffe
@AJratcliffe 7 ай бұрын
I have literally never wanted to play a wargame in my lunch break Magic the gathering, yes. Underworlds, yes! But a whole game of Warhammer? Even if it's been designed to be fast and quick, That's not going to be relaxing!
@bdog6160
@bdog6160 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Rob, 30yr Warhammer gamer here with too many kids and not enough time, that was thinking this might be the answer after all the hype. Now know probably not
@ianfalzonmoon
@ianfalzonmoon 7 ай бұрын
Dad to dad; Warcry is my friend ;)
@bdog6160
@bdog6160 7 ай бұрын
I've been playing opr for a while but I'm gonna listen to U man.
@jonnyeklebs
@jonnyeklebs 7 ай бұрын
Probably is the answer from what others who've played in better circumstances have said, see hammer, two+ tough and aos coach
@ninjamikeus
@ninjamikeus 7 ай бұрын
They’re trying to break into the lunchtime board game market but forgetting they are not a board game.
@raphaelberney4812
@raphaelberney4812 7 ай бұрын
I'm interested in Spearhead, mainly because I think it's a good format to play with my kids. Less units, they don't really enjoy the list building part (for now), they like to move minis, throw dice, and tell a story, and blow their dad to smithereens. We actually played something that looked like spearhead, on a half table (double spearhead), so I won't hesitate to tweak the game to suit our needs. It still look like it's a good starting point for something bigger one day. And to play with "grown-ups", well, I'm looking forward to the new edition.
@HobbyJackal
@HobbyJackal 7 ай бұрын
Super helpful, thanks Rob! It does sound like it wouldn't be broken if I just doubled the board size by slapping down two Warcry boards & some objective templates 🤞. Definitely interested to play around with this :)
@justinfloyd1471
@justinfloyd1471 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate your comment about board game vs wargame. AoS 3 has always felt more like a board game to me. Use your pieces, manage your resources, score your points.
@tahorn938
@tahorn938 7 ай бұрын
Thank you again for the awesome videos! I personally love the idea of spearhead as a dad with limited time. Based on your limited experience do you think you could “home brew” the board size and still keep the integrity of what spearhead is supposed to be in tact? If so, what board size would you say is the sweet spot?
@dwhisper79
@dwhisper79 7 ай бұрын
The GW US Open event was also this past weekend, which is where the AoS core team was at (running the AOS 4 demo tables). There was a big Spearhead Tournament at that event as well. I only had a chance to play the 4 demo, and it was fun. But they said things were left out specifically to keep it moving quickly. Will say that in my play, Stormcast just wrecked the Skaven.
@akitainu78
@akitainu78 5 ай бұрын
Really looking forward to play Spearhead, have one from my Slaves to Darkness army and cosidering getting the Soulblight box to extend my Cursed Ciry models.
@Kircholm
@Kircholm 7 ай бұрын
Here is a point of view for the rules loade and need to know every core rule, army stat and twist deck. You don't need to know every card or stat of an army to play a game, You only need that knowledge to min-max win the game. What I mean is you can always learn twist cards on the go. Just pop a card, read, and make decision based on that. You can even get surprised while playing, like expirience the gaming, not make set of prepared decisions.
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
That makes it slow though which is fine.
@georgebow23
@georgebow23 7 ай бұрын
They’ve done exactly what we learn in day one in a job in marketing. Don’t use a survey of 1 !! If you work for GW it’s great for a lunch break but most won’t have the option.
@Nekorook
@Nekorook 7 ай бұрын
I like that it’s more like a Boardgame. Sounds like a nice low stakes format and I see how it replaces the rarely used open play.
@florianb370
@florianb370 7 ай бұрын
But Rob, for parents of younglings, play à little spearhead after they go to bed is freaking priceless. Let say I don't often have the time to run à 2k matched play as often as I want
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
I agree with that!! That's not lunch though and I'm glad its a format
@Bazanti
@Bazanti 7 ай бұрын
‘You can play this over lunch’ I’ve had a corporate lunch at GW HQ a few years ago, I’d prefer a game of Spearhead above that experience tbh Otherwise: lol
@wokehammer40k
@wokehammer40k 7 ай бұрын
Hoping to see spearhead events in my area, really like the ideas behind it! Not shocked that games run over an hour, I wonder if you could comfortably have 5 rounds in a 1 day event?
@petec1396
@petec1396 7 ай бұрын
small table, short play time, quick to play, frenetic action, sounds like a casual players dream, and there's more casual players than anyone else, saying that as a casual I don't want to try and play a game on my lunch, but I do want a fast game I could potentially play a couple of games of in an evening vs one game of something larger
@thewellandvalley2103
@thewellandvalley2103 7 ай бұрын
The two half of the card mechanic is very similar to Gloomhaven, which is massively engaging. Sounds positive.
@whl1815
@whl1815 7 ай бұрын
I played in Dallas. I liked it at first, but after thinking about it for a day or two, I don’t think I’ll play Spearhead in the future unless I’m starting a new army.
@mactac
@mactac 7 ай бұрын
Sounds like a good on-ramp. I learned with path to glory and it was a bit much to start with
@KnightSquire
@KnightSquire 7 ай бұрын
I wanted to come to this... but cos the tickets were free, they were "Sold Out", clearly people had snatched them up with no intention of actually going. :(
@nicholasbridges7857
@nicholasbridges7857 7 ай бұрын
So I've been pitching some friends who don't play wargames on spearhead and the unanimous first question is "does it still take several hours?" So i think that's why they are stressing the lunch thing, even though I agree it sounds really stupid.
@ThereIsOnlyWar40k
@ThereIsOnlyWar40k 7 ай бұрын
I like the idea of spearhead. I will slowly build my new skaven army.
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad
@GeekySkippy
@GeekySkippy 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review. It does sound like it’s exactly what I expected which is great. I help run a lot of learn to play days and leagues and making people learn most the core rules and not worrying about a full 2000 point game sounds great to me. The game system with just the single box investment is amazing. Great job on their part. I’m so ready for this edition.
@star_wars_miniatures
@star_wars_miniatures 7 ай бұрын
The amazing potato fact at the beginning 😂 brilliant!!
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
So good!
@noprobllama9747
@noprobllama9747 7 ай бұрын
In our demo game we had skaven jezails fire into combat which was fun. Was that a tthing from previous AoS editions?
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
It is
@theDackjanielz
@theDackjanielz 7 ай бұрын
A board game with cards like underworlds? That's a true positive in my book. Cant wait to try it.
@briochepanda
@briochepanda 7 ай бұрын
I get 30 minutes for lunch on a 8 hour shift, I ain't playing crap on my lunch break. Some berk in marketing is diamon hard for this notion people are dragging carry cases into work to play spearhead in the break room.
@diegolimberrodrigueztuesta7517
@diegolimberrodrigueztuesta7517 7 ай бұрын
OSCAR "ratz" my friend!!! we miss you here!!! ;D;D;D T_T, Nice vid Rob, looking forward to playing Spearhead, it seems very cool! Greetings from Peru!!
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
Love to Peru
@Boljarin
@Boljarin 7 ай бұрын
My gf is a massive boardgame nerd, but Warhammer proper is just too daunting. Spearhead feeling like boardgame sounds perfect for me to get her excited to play AoS a bit.
@andanjv
@andanjv 7 ай бұрын
Have you considered warcry?
@Boljarin
@Boljarin 7 ай бұрын
@@andanjv I've played it, but I didn't love it. With Spearhead I have all the models already anyway.
@jlovett78
@jlovett78 7 ай бұрын
Agree, no one is playing in my area over lunch break
@darthhall6187
@darthhall6187 7 ай бұрын
My take is that they are using the lunch break as a relatable way to convey the game can be played in around an hour. I'm not sure they are actually expecting people to play on their lunch breaks. But it's still a crap pitch. It simply won't work out like that IRL. I also agree with Rob that this game will never be played in under an hour unless you absolutely smash through everything to do without pause to talk to your opponent, or have any kind of fun. I've played games of Warcry that went for 3 hours, because we we arsing about and having fun. That should be the pitch. A FUN way to spend a couple of hours with your mates, while playing a cool game.
@Fortunes.Fool.
@Fortunes.Fool. 7 ай бұрын
I just got the flying dwarf and flesh eater boxes for this.
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
Nice!!
@whatigottaroll
@whatigottaroll 7 ай бұрын
Same! Who the hell wants to play this game over a lunch break? Most people here in the states get a 1/2 hour lunch, so what is that? like 10 minutes of gaming after you factor in setting up and putting away the minis? Ugh. "Ain't nobody got no time for dat!"
@FionaAnstian
@FionaAnstian 7 ай бұрын
I had a feeling the 22x30 board would be way too small and I'm not surprised that's the case. Combat Patrol is 44x30, and I think that's probably the better option.
@CaptainChazz
@CaptainChazz 7 ай бұрын
The 45 minute game of Warhammer has been a thing for years with GW. I would rather play one or two games on a evening than rush over lunch. That being said I used to play bloodbowl 7s at school many moons ago.
@scottmills4164
@scottmills4164 7 ай бұрын
I am curious if you feel that playing Spearhead translates well into AOS, like will tactics carry over? If someone were completely inexperienced playing warhammer, played a decent amount of spearhead theyvwould feel comfortable playing AOS?
@donaldshults2230
@donaldshults2230 7 ай бұрын
So have we confirmed Vanguard boxes are mostly the same as Spearhead? Can I go get a Orruk Warclans one right now, paint it, and use it for Spearhead when 4e drops?
@TheGImp1214
@TheGImp1214 7 ай бұрын
Really would be better to just market it as a faster way to play aos. Sometimes its hard to justify going to the store ifyou dont have 3-4 hours to play a full match. Getting a game in 45 minutes sounds much bettwr
@t4washere384
@t4washere384 7 ай бұрын
Combat Patrol uses two board and having played melee armies in it I can see them downsizing to speed things up. Death Guard be slow as gunk.
@GlennJackson-d8e
@GlennJackson-d8e 7 ай бұрын
Do you think it would work out well with two boards; i.e. 44" x 30"?
@paulschaller648
@paulschaller648 7 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. If you have units that can move as far as those prosecutors it would be a better experience?
@earnestwanderer2471
@earnestwanderer2471 7 ай бұрын
Problem is that the objectives are printed on the boards and, no doubt, the cards are keyed to the objectives on the board. As Rob said, the objectives are actually “named”. So a card probably says something like “Score 2 VP if you control The Sinking Springs at the end of this turn”.
@general_crap
@general_crap 7 ай бұрын
Coming from warcry I think it sounds like a good stepping stone for me as I’m just way over daunted by prospect of 2000pts and mega rules of AOS and 40k. Thanks for honest review.
@richardokeeffe8375
@richardokeeffe8375 7 ай бұрын
Great run down. Shoutout to the GW starter for ‘yes yes’
@mastercats
@mastercats 7 ай бұрын
The spearhead format would be 1million times better with alternating movement where each player takes a turn moving units.
@TobyGilham
@TobyGilham 7 ай бұрын
Honest Rob honest review
@earnestwanderer2471
@earnestwanderer2471 7 ай бұрын
You went upstairs to get your name? What name did they give you?
@abefactory
@abefactory 7 ай бұрын
Can you make your own forces in spearhead or is it locked to what you get in the spearhead/vanguard boxes?
@Kilmiina
@Kilmiina 7 ай бұрын
Who are these people that are packing their minis to work, hope that a co-worker does the same, setting up, playing and tidying up even a minis-based board game in an hour or less? Is anyone outside of GW-workers able to do that?
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
Highly doubt
@cactuscoe9096
@cactuscoe9096 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely stunning: 300 different types of potato!!
@jamesgraham6492
@jamesgraham6492 7 ай бұрын
I need tip of buying magnet case for warhammer minis
@keepcalmandre-roll5480
@keepcalmandre-roll5480 7 ай бұрын
I won’t be playing it in my lunch time as I only get 30m mins lol. I am looking g forward to Spearhead. I think it will get me into playing AoS
@adamblake1674
@adamblake1674 7 ай бұрын
Do you think this would be a good way to “try out” how the army would play at a larger scale? I can see it struggling if you need to know before you walk in the faction rules or if the smaller scale would obscure some details. Love the show and stay square bassed.
@iainclark2959
@iainclark2959 7 ай бұрын
What about lunch time games for a school league? Maybe that is what they weee thinking?
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
You can't play during lunch
@DougMennen
@DougMennen 7 ай бұрын
I was really hoping Rob would list all 300 types of potato like Bubba in Forest Gump.
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
Roast potatoes, mash potatoes....
@chubbychalupa4175
@chubbychalupa4175 7 ай бұрын
Because of Battle tactics, that’s how I’ve felt playing AoS 3rd. It’s a board game where I don’t have to interact with my opponent and score free points.
@redsven7624
@redsven7624 7 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the video, I was on board with AoS4 but the more I hear the less certain I am about it, spearhead was probably the bit I was most interested in after rules info that has come out. The small board issue and the slower playing game honestly sound like an issue for me. Also while I can look at the launch box and see it as a solid well rounded product I am not excited for it, the minis are solid, but not exciting and the box price is right on the tipping point for me. Not sure if it is other games have me excited or I am just not feeling AoS 4, if this was a starter box I would pick it up maybe down the line, the whole launch box thing makes it feel a bit like a yes/no decision
@markyp9215
@markyp9215 7 ай бұрын
Brilliant video! Amazing job 👏 Nice to see some coverage that feels very honest. Had a feeling that this 1 hour thing is bullshit
@speeddemonpainting7050
@speeddemonpainting7050 7 ай бұрын
I personally think the spearhead "play over a lunchbreak" is more geared towards school clubs? They also have very limited space generally.
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
But you can't finish a game during lunch
@speeddemonpainting7050
@speeddemonpainting7050 7 ай бұрын
@@thehonestwargamerstreams Oh? That's a bit sad then... The school I teach at has 1 hour lunch breaks and so I figured this might be a cool thing to introduce students to wargaming.
@darkagentbloodhoof
@darkagentbloodhoof 7 ай бұрын
Love hearing to positive feedback Rob! What's your thoughts on Ogors keeping impact mortals as a battle trait?
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
Yeah keen on that
@TerrierHalo
@TerrierHalo 7 ай бұрын
Can’t they sell it like it’s fun to play. Also maybe something I can walk over to the club right after work and play a game of without the clock striking midnight.
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
They should
@theminiaturestavern
@theminiaturestavern 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the honest review.
@ruleofkoolwargaming4926
@ruleofkoolwargaming4926 7 ай бұрын
With the limited time you had with it, do you think the Spearhead method of Scoring/Tactic cards would be a mechanic that could be expanded to the main game? If done right do you think that would work?
@thomaslomax737
@thomaslomax737 7 ай бұрын
The lunchbreak concept seems flawed, unless you're playing nurgle & don't mind getting mayo on the minis.
@thehonestwargamerstreams
@thehonestwargamerstreams 7 ай бұрын
Greasy minis? Gross
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