How Will The American XL Bully Ban Be Implemented? | This Morning

In a groundbreaking move, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has announced that American XL Bully dogs will be banned 'by the end of the year' following the latest dog attack which saw a man die. This marks the fifth breed to be banned since the introduction of the Dangerous Dogs Act. However, questions remain - how will the ban be implemented? What’s the impact on dog owners? We’re joined by proud XL Bully owner Chris Halls, Linda Cantle from the Wood Green Animal Charity, and dog trainer Stan Rawlinson to discuss.
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[@susannahfelton9013]

Yes i agree. Get tougher on the owners. Sick of seeing young men walking the streets trying to look vlever with these dogs. Their not useing them as a part of their family. Its just a status thing. Ive seen them teaseing them and making them aggresive. Get tougher on the bad breeders. And stop people from making money off them

[@ajdesmond9545]

It’s Walking around with an offensive weapon👀👀👀👀

[@lollands_]

👍

[@Erinrose8875]

Is that the dogs fault? Did the dog choose to do that

[@briannabarrera2930]

Shame they didn’t talk about that recent attack that killed that poor man wasn’t he protecting his elderly mother?

[@451ankitkaushik3]

@pbess667 people are just mad in saving their dogs. Biased people

[@endezeichengrimm]

Can you give me some names to find that story? That sounds bloody horrible.

[@briannabarrera2930]

@@endezeichengrimm it happened September 14, his name was Ian Price he was 52. I first saw a pretty graphic video on Reddit people were trying to help but these dogs are monsters they circled him while he was on the ground. He saved his mother I believe.

[@chollisketteridge7727]

Every owner of any dog should sign an agreement, regardless of the breed, that if their dog kills another person, then it's a mandatory min term 25 year prison sentence. Would force people to evaluate the risks of owning a monster toddler shredder. Maybe they'd make a more reasoned choice on what dog they get

[@adikapic7542]

how do you know that toddler is not a monster, psychopath ,mass murderer...millions of humans are

[@maxbluenose25]

​@@adikapic7542get lost weirdo

[@wow6111]

​@adikapic7542 LOL what??? Are you deluded or just thick in the head

[@shaunigothictv1003]

Brilliant idea

[@CM-vv8cv]

@@adikapic7542 Average bull terrier owner mentality "Yeah he killed a toddler, but what if that toddler was the next hitler?"

[@tvlicencebible1380]

He has to be "very careful" over interactions between his kids and the dog. I think he just said it all. It's very clear what his priorities are. Not the sharpest tool in the box. Let's start charging owners with GHB and Manslaughter when these natural born killers attack; then we'll really see how many of them want to take the risk of owning an XL Bully.

[@neiltucker9773]

I would feel more confident if the owners looked like a powerful person who could control one of these dogs in a dangerous situation and not some of the pilchards i have seen with them.

[@juliechurley2716]

💯

[@Richard-l2j7p]

I totally agree 👍

[@BongHuffer]

Is your space bar broken too mate?

[@nutcracker2916]

The football hooligan types love em.

[@grimreality2]

@@BongHufferspastic

[@Kami84]

People endlessly debate whether these breeds are dangerous but I’ve never heard anyone talking about banning border collies or labradors. If it keeps coming up, doesn’t that tell you something in and of itself. There a many many stories of pit bull type dogs attacking children or random strangers and causing very serious harm. Someones desire to have a specific type of pet should NEVER override public safety.

[@juliechurley2716]

And that’s what these defensive owners won’t accept.

[@A46648]

I can see you have a dog brain...how many people did Labrador kill name one

[@Kami84]

@@A46648 i don't think you understood my comment. I'm saying that the reason people keep discussing banning pit bulls and not these other dogs is because the pit bulls are the ones that keep disproportionately causing problems, attacking people, and causing serious harm.

[@Yahashuaskid]

Agree

[@gillianlillis1984]

That’s what I say… you don’t hear of people being mauled to death by border collies! I have a border collie, but would never have a bull breed. Couldn’t trust them with kids around

[@ranstxx]

Why would you even risk having your kids around them though...Utter madness

[@joshalbon2898]

Any dog that gets reported for being aggressive should be taken an assessed not just dogs on the dangerous dogs list!

[@memeguyTM]

You should also be assessed.

[@23pounce]

Any person that gets reported for being aggressive should be taken and assessed. Not just people on the dangerous people list.

[@davidkirsch4065]

How about hot dogs?

[@Richard-l2j7p]

So jack Russells and chihuahuas should be banned automatically? 🙄🤦‍♂️🤔🤷‍♂️🤤🥴🤪

[@nutcracker2916]

They usually are . Dog wardens sometimes co ordinate that.

[@potentiallypotent420]

Anything able to rip the face off a child in the streets isn’t something any member of the public should wield. Amazing how I’m yet to see an high IQ owner of one of these beasts!

[@marzipanmonkey]

The whole “it’s the owners!” argument is absolute nonsense. It’s both! This breed has no business being a family pet or out in public. The risk is just too great regardless of how many owners swear that theirs is “the sweetest and most affectionate dog in the entire world!!”

[@adikapic7542]

i believe you are able to rip the face off a child. should they put you down?

[@artycassy]

Any dog is capable of 'ripping off a child's face'. Yes, staffy breeds and bully breeds are known for their jaw strength, but that doesn't mean other dogs don't have powerful jaws too.

[@artycassy]

@@marzipanmonkey How many dogs have you owned? Any person can say that with confidence doesn't fully understand. The reputation of staffy breeds are inconsistent. There are many many many staffies that are kind and loving. Not a bad bone in their body. And I can say that confidently because my family has a long history of having staffies. I have grown up around them and they were all the sweetest of animals. I can say that because I was with them. They were, in fact. The sweetest dogs I'll ever know. But it's too easy for anyone to say I'm lying because they don't know these dogs when I do. Yes, there are many irresponsible owners out there that claim their dogs are good when in reality they aren't entirely. And it paints a bad picture on all dogs who are said to be good. It's like the police. The police are good, hard working, kind and funny but when one police officer is dodgy, then to the public, ALL police officers are dodgy and it's not fair on the others who are good to have a reputation of being bad because of someone else's wrong-doings. And that's what has happened here. This publicised incident is indeed awful, but no trained dog would ever do such a thing. Or if the dog is indeed aggressive, then the proper precautions have not been practiced by the owner and thus they are liable. Not the dog. .

[@karencusack4159]

Very sweeping statement !!! How many people who own these dogs have you seen results of their IQ??? I could judge you and think just from your comment you haven't got an high IQ??? I judge these dogs on the ones I've met, beautiful, loyal, brilliant round other dogs. However they are extremely powerful so I understand people's concerns, but Yr comment shows such ignorance which I find as frightening as a any dangerous dog

[@Gothicexplorer]

MAKE BREEDERS ACCUNTABLE. All breders to be licenced and only if they meet certain criteria . Breeding dogs must have all health tests, breeding dogs have to pass a temperment assessment, breeders must scrutinize potential puppy buyers to be sure they go to the right homes ., breedrrs must take back any dog they bred if the owner can no longer keep it . puppies to be microchiped to the breeder for life and if a dog they bred causes injury to a parson to have their breeding licence removed . Lets get rid of people who breed for profit, people who sale puppys to anyone with the cash and take no responsibility for the dogs they bred after they go to new homes nor care where they go. Fix the problem at the route. the place where the puppy is brought in to the world. And also lets put a cap on the price of puppies with £1000 being the most you can charge for a dog stop people getting rich off the back of breeding

[@rikshaw2233]

A (logical & rational) comment But, Not practical. If a Dog's Designed to Attack & Kill. 1, it should have a Muzzle & Leash in Public. 2, Exactly The Wrong People that will Always have those Dogs.

[@ScurvyRascal]

Puppy farming

[@markflood4068]

+ breeding should be linked with the RSPCA and money from pups should be divided between the two owners and RSPCA to fund the dog pounds around the country.

[@Gothicexplorer]

@@markflood4068 I dont trust the RSPCA and I worked for them . Some are good but at the top end they cant be trusted . Cap the selling price is the only way to stop people making a living from puppies. When I was a kid the local farmer gave pups away for free and even a full pedigree only cost around £50 but now you cant buy a mix breed for less than £500 and the bull breeds are going for 2 or 3k a pup . the money being made is outrageous . it needs to stop

[@markflood4068]

@youchewba banning that breed won't stop other dogs from bitting other people so it won't solve the problem

[@ruszdad]

Who cares if it's the owner to blame when people are dying. Tell that to the parents of kids who were attacked or the children of the man who was killed that it’s the owners to blame not the dogs. No one lost a life to a Labrador attack, did they? They say people are not likely to report attacks by smaller dogs. Fair enough, those attacks are not as vicious as ones by bully dogs and the likes. Those dogs are bloody strong and almost unstopable when it attacks. Ban the breed! Why take risks?

[@annamari7863]

Because "my dog wouldn't do that."

[@mariamh7546]

@@annamari7863 I sure all owners say that. But you don't know really when your dog could turn.

[@BongHuffer]

It makes sense, but it’s the same as telling Americans to ban guns to reduce risk. Somehow they’re so deluded into thinking, stupidly, that having access to guns makes you safer.

[@nutcracker2916]

Four year old Alice Stones did. That was a labrador And Peter Frans. another four year old both family pets.

[@gaelsdottir5046]

Check out Tara, the Hero Cat. The dog that attacked that child was a Lab or Lab mix. Overbreeding causes serious problems, and some of them are behavioral.

[@sumoni]

And tiger might make a great companion but it doesn't mean it should be a pet or let around public.

[@smedleybutler1969]

There are no bad tigers only bad owners!

[@DeadCat-42]

A tiger is probably a safer pet ..

[@Ald1995]

The name it's self is off putting XL bully who ever decided to put the word bully in its breed name is beyond me

[@julierogers1155]

Exactly!

[@billmartins5545]

It tells you all you need to know about the people who want a breed like this.

[@SpareSomeChange8080]

"Don't ban the dog, punish the bad owner" they all cry, but I bet they won't treat guns with the same logic will they?

[@pepeee17643]

Dumb comparison from a dumb individual who compares guns to a muscular mammal that has been bred to fight. Again, this is not America so get off your high horse.

[@Therianlove-masky]

Even if you ban the owners if their dogs killed someone already, you cant get back their lives. I have been attacked by xl bully at the park the damaged has been done i had trauma the incident. Why cant u understand many ppl died bcoz of theses bloody dogs

[@marshabush8812]

This man Chris, on this morning, that own this dangerous dog is talking rubbish, the expert is spot on, cull the bloody lot of them ASAP.!!!

[@juliechurley2716]

Yes, the behaviourist had the figures & far & away the most logical argument

[@Erinrose8875]

Exactly!! If dogs are so bad wonder how bad people are

[@zzz78175]

In case you're visually or mentally impaired and can't tell they're large dangerous dogs. Handily they've named them according: XL - extra large Pit - bred to be put in a pit and kill things Bull - strong

[@julierogers1155]

Each person who owns, or wants to own, an "XL Bully" dog has questionable decision making at the least, and I suspect almost all are mentally unstable.

[@patrickdoherty4527]

Facts!

[@tsanseverino950]

Your nuts

[@patrickdoherty4527]

@@tsanseverino950 what about them!? 😂

[@6ft7guy]

​@@tsanseverino950you understand XL bullies come from pitbulls which are purpose bred fighting dogs

[@ht-ve9fe]

If I cant carry a knife for self defence, you cant have a tiger on a lead.

[@susanb.1113]

Punish the back garden breeders, who cruelly cut off the puppies' ears, force r@pe on the female dogs over and over, make thousands of £'s of undeclared, tax free income, the list goes on.

[@Tattooer303]

“We don’t know what an XL bully dog is yet” but the media are more than happy to call the attacks XL bully attacks, how can you do that with a breed that’s not defined?

[@SpareSomeChange8080]

Oh this willl be good 🍿🍿 If they can define what an XL Bully is, then I'm sure they can define what a woman is, right?

[@davidconcannon5927]

Well it wasn't a poodle, was it?

[@Tattooer303]

@@davidconcannon5927 I forget where I mentioned it was a poodle? 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Tattooer303]

@@davidconcannon5927 my point being we in the UK have no definition for the breed, there are plenty of short haired, larger, muscular dog breeds out there, Cane Corso, Presa Canario, Boerboel, Mastif Crosses to name a few all not on the list of “Dangerous dogs”, yet we seem to have defined the breed enough to blame these attacks on the XL Bully as a breed which we have no definition for in the UK.

[@davidconcannon5927]

They're all ****s dogs. The only reason people buy them is because they look hard and fit with their chavvy image. You're not going to see old women in the Cotswolds owning these dogs, are you? I agree, don't just single out the XL Bully, we need to phase out all dangerous dogs or at least make it known to all owners that they face lengthy prison sentences if those dogs attack and make them undesirable to own.@@Tattooer303

[@time4change56]

That baby is not safe with those dogs. They turn on people unexpectedly.

[@Czermet666]

To put it in perspective... An XL Bully can quite easily kill a Caracal or a Serval cat. Perhaps even multiple at the same time. And Caracals & Servals require a Dangerous Wild Animals License to own, the same licence which covers owning a Tiger or a Lion. Domesticated dogs might not be wild, but I think the danger factor should count for more than the "wild" factor, especially when Caracal & Serval pets would be Captive Bred. So perhaps a simple ban is great for keeping Bullies out of the hands of irresponsible owners (the majority of XL owners), but a Dangerous Animals License, would be great for Breeders because it allows them to further work on taming & socialising the breed, working out the old fighter genes. Whilst also de-incentivising irresponsible breeders, from using the XL bully as nothing more than a cash cow. Which unfortunately is the vast majority of XL breeders.

[@DeadCat-42]

I'm a six two construction worker and I couldn't get the pit thing off me. I had to use a trash can to fend it off so I could escape. It still put me in hospital.

[@mo-sy9ws]

Even the trainer knows his family isnt realy safe let alone the wider public if his pet gets out by accident.

[@Therianlove-masky]

Ban the dogs many irresponsible owners. They loose their dogs at the park for them to have fun. Even if theyre sentece lifetime its still not enough justice

[@xragdoll5662]

Literally had a rough looking dog randomly come into my estate and my neighbour and I had behind a gate. Turns out an owner lost him. Wasn’t muzzle or on a leash. People are so irresponsible with dogs! Just let them walk about!

[@LyndaCoulson64]

Stan Rawlinson got it wrong, Adam Watts had 5 kids and was given the XK Bully by the police after it had bitten a woman on the leg and had attacked 2 other dogs. Adam was a Scottish man. As I have always said and so did Adam say " It's the owners and breeders not the dogs who are the problem."

[@BongHuffer]

I agree to an extent, but some dogs are naturally more vicious, powerful, possess different mindsets to other dogs, and prone to attack. Only takes one owner to bring that side out of them. Owners are to blame, but that same owner wouldn’t get the same result from a Labrador.

[@KnoneOfficial]

It's not the gun, but the gun-owner, who shoots up a place. The gun does not have a mind of its own. It's not the owner, it's the dog, who randomly mauls a toddler. The dog DOES have a mind of it's own. A dog attacks because it WANTS to, not because it is being controlled externally by the owner. There is no remote with a button being pressed that causes a dog to randomly attack. Dogs are predators, and they have instincts and desires to attack. They may in fact attack for a whole number of reasons. But the only one they need is that they feel like biting. Dogs can't reason. That makes them very dangerous, and more so than a gun or knife, or anything which actually CAN be a tool for an owner. Not that dogs can't be used as weapons as well. Their natural ferocity makes them ideal for that too. But they don't need to be coerced into attacking, it's in their nature.

[@icystrangers5482]

They should bring in stiff custodial sentences, as well, for the owner of any dog that attacks and kills.

[@Rihardololz]

it wont work since most owners of dogs are drug dealers.

[@marshabush8812]

Assessing these dogs won't help. They could be fine when being assessed but if something happened, i.e., child pulling it about or dog getting spooked, they just turn aggressive, ban them there's no real sense in ownership.

[@shaunigothictv1003]

Excellent point

[@julierogers1155]

These dogs can suddenly attack and kill babies, children in their own households. "Why would you choose a dog that DOES have an element of risk in it's behavior when there are so many other ones that you can choose from that are more sedate?". Chris, the dog "trainer", is mentally off ... this is child abuse just to have this dog in a home with children.

[@HeatherDMorris]

My thought too. Putting his kids life at risk. Thanks Dad love you

[@TheGrindcorps]

Any dog can do that. A chihuahua can and they are much more aggressive than an XL Bully!

[@shottsatyou_8200]

@@TheGrindcorpsFr one of the most tolerant dogs there are

[@eamonsweeney5000]

@@TheGrindcorps 😂 are you mental? A Chihuahua can’t do 1% of the damage an XL bully can. Just look at the stats.

[@dominicgroomer2004]

@@TheGrindcorpsso can a rat

[@CastleMc]

I applaud the Prime Minister for having the courage to do the right thing. I'm a lifelong dog owner but am beyond tired of the carnage that Pit bulls and their relatives leave in their wake and the misinformation campaign that enables it. Literally every day in the US innocent people and pets are mauled and killed by these dogs. And it happens to owners and even trainers who do understand the risks and personalities. There are plenty of other and better options out there. There is NO reason for the average person to have these killer dogs.

[@451ankitkaushik3]

Absolutely right

[@Richard-l2j7p]

Its about time a Muslim done something beneficial for this country.

[@rosannafrith]

@@Richard-l2j7p I don’t even agree with Rishi but first off, he is Hindu.. and the muslim community does a lot for the UK so maybe don’t be so hateful

[@Therianlove-masky]

Once these dogs is bad mood they gonna eat you. I dont believe owners can control them. Theyre animals still

[@KnoneOfficial]

It's not the gun, but the gun-owner, who targets people with it. The gun does not have a mind of its own. It's not the owner, it's the dog, who randomly mauls a toddler. The dog DOES have a mind of it's own. A dog attacks because it WANTS to, not because it is being controlled externally by the owner. There is no remote with a button being pressed that causes a dog to randomly attack. Dogs are predators, and they have instincts and desires to attack.

[@marcellus6434]

Humans are predators they also have instincts to attack. All creatures do. 83% of wild creatures have been wiped by humans.

[@willyhwang1059]

bad breed, bad dog, or bad owner? 1 out of 3 may be manageable 2 out of 3 is trouble 3 out of 3 is disaster

[@JordonLealand]

I've always said any dog that can grow over 30kg should have to be licensed and you should have to pay for your dog to be checked once every 6 months. We would see a massive decrease in these monster muscle dogs, decrease in attacks, and it would make sure that anyone who buys a big dog is dedicated to owning a big dog and training them. Even if this is implemented XL bullies should still be destroyed as they are pure breed killers.

[@rowanholden6695]

Karen here 😂😂

[@tracyallen6152]

Not all dogs are bad

[@Bandi2024]

Cull them for the safety of children and other pets. We need protection outdoors. Need to get pepper spray for when I take my Lab out. I'm scared.

[@juliechurley2716]

Same

[@monzer-sy5yp]

Our XL Bully is never without a leash in public. He's just a 5-month old puppy now, but will grow to about 60kg. He has played with children since day 1 when we got him. He has been in conventions and festivals where a lot of strangers come to pet him, and he meets a lot of new dogs etc... MY sister's kids always throw ball to him, and take the ball from his mouth, and take a bone from his mouth and he's never shown any aggression towards anyone. The Kennel made us write a 5-page agreement before they allowed us to buy that puppy. We had to video-tape our home and introduce us and tell about our basic life, work, hobbies etc... so that they know in what kind of family they let one of their puppies. And the kennel still holds rights to take this dog away from us, if we appear to be an un-fit family for him. IF we teach aggressive things or if they a sense that we like to keep it as an "ego-extention", they can take him back. You have to have a stable job, active hobbies so the dog walks/runs/plays a lot. Enough free time to educate him, challenge the brain... Stable life, wake up at the same time (except weekends), same feeding times, go to bed at the same time etc... This Kennel was very strict of who they give their puppies. And we got one. If a dog is an idiot, look at the other end of the leash for the reason...

[@ZZ-vl5nd]

Too much text to say that your dog is dangerous and one slip-up one of your family members gets mauled. Dogs shouldn't be this dangerous to be had as family pet. Why don't you have just a normal dog breed that doesn't kill people on a whim.

[@julierogers1155]

You IGNORE the statistics. These dogs are "good" dogs until they are not. Look at the reports, look at the statistics. These are facts of maulings and killing. By definition you are questionable because you own one of the unstable dogs.

[@mrinvisible9175]

@@Ryan-cr2xw…Jesus Christ the amount of denial of reality from you owners is insane.

[@patrickdoherty4527]

​@@mrinvisible9175Agreed. It's genuinely disturbing.

[@patrickdoherty4527]

​@@ZZ-vl5nd100%

[@LyndaCoulson64]

It is a mixture of all three, I agree. The thing is about mix bred dogs is they all carry a dominat gene and it's up to the breeder what they are breeding regarding their dogs being bred. It's also up to the dog owner and how they raise their dog from about 9 weeks. All dogs can turn into dangerous dogs if being raised incorrectly, causing the dog to become unbalanced. I think that if a person has never grown up with dogs around, never owned a dog themselves before, should do their RESEARCH into what characters do they want their gog to have. Research that breeds history and what it is bred for usually. Watch documentaries, read books and go to watch the dogs in action. The history of a 'dog' dates back to prehistoric times and when man domesticated them, they wanted certain breeds for certain jobs. SO they were bred for those purposes, now when you have mixed breed dogs, the dominant gene is what defines the most prominant characteristics in that type of mixed bred dogs.

[@emmamarson2105]

Not one of the milksop self- satisfied panel had the courage to state that this hideous gargoyle of an animal should be suppressed and kept off the streets. Possibly different if their child or relative had been attacked.

[@sophieWright-di8xn]

Why would you want a dog like that with children they can turn at anytime the dogs need banning full stop

[@Ashbash5555]

Why should it be the dogs that get banned? Why not ban the owners

[@tdRockxc568]

I agree ☝️, also the Owners should be banned from living in the uk too , perhaps they should live in America !?

[@KA-jo8vn]

You’ve got the answer at 7:13

[@donnabaardsen5372]

How ridiculous, Ashbash. The dogs are dangerous REGARDLESS of who owns them.

[@potentiallypotent420]

Anything able to rip the face of a child in the streets isn’t something any member of the public should wield. Amazing how I’m yet to see an high IQ owner of one of these beasts!

[@Ashbash5555]

​@donnabaardsen5372 my brother has a mini xl bully with 3 kids and he is soft as anything. It's all down to how they have been trained

[@khrystynasembratovych9854]

I have a standard American bully. Why I chose this breed, is because of its look and when you read the bread description it says no aggression, dog companion. My dog is very socialized, trained, and super friendly. Do I trust her, NO. Always ask people not to touch her without my permission, do they listen, NO. So many times strangers pet her while I do something or do it right away without asking. Also I get frustrated when a small dog's owners don't pay attention when their dogs show aggression to my dog because they think what those small dogs can't do nothing to this big girl, but they biting her. I tried to be the responsible owner but it is sometimes hard to do it when some people aren't.

[@nutcracker2916]

Little dog syndrome. lol But I take your point.

[@shadow.banned]

Maybe pit owners need to be required to be _chained_ and _leashed_ to their dogs. So if and when the dog goes out of control, _they're dragged along with the ride._

[@YoutubeWatts]

Amazing the mental gymnastics and bias you see from Bully fans. Enough idiots own XL bullys so therefore they ruined it for the rest that’s it. Same happened with guns in the UK.

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

They're still being sold on-line, puppies and dogs, the police say they don't know what the law is!!!

[@wtfdaily1637]

The fact ITV wouldn't have one in the studio tells you exactly how safe these dogs are! this isn't the normal type of dog, this is a genetically inbred dog with a shxt tone of mental and physical disabilities. you can't even say they have a predatory instinct, as these dogs fight for sport and not for the hunt. they are dangerous, and if you think they are safe, i would only hope you never leave your kid alone with one.

[@PG_FISHING]

Perfect question was why would you choose to own this breed in the first place? Let's be honest here.. Saying it's because they are such a social and loving dog is complete garbage, ask just about any dog owner of any breed and they will tell you thier dog is social and loving!! People buy these dogs because they are powerful and impressive, and they command respect. That's the real reason!!

[@23pounce]

That's three super good reasons.

[@maxine4898]

The reason that the 1991 ban didn’t work is because Staffies weren’t included in the ban,many people and pets have been killed by them over the years, they are very much like pit bulls, most are normal family pets but they can turn on people in an instant and they very rarely give any warning that they’re about to attack, people passed pit bulls off as Staffies too and most people wouldn’t know the difference between them, even some experts would have trouble telling the difference, the same mistake has happened in THIS ban, all pit types and American bullies (of all sizes) should have been included in it

[@ScurvyRascal]

Why on earth would anyone need an XL bully???

[@pepeee17643]

In my personal experience, I have never had an issue with this breed but genetically, they are aggressive and have strong muscles and joints. People usually get this dog for a 'cool look'.

[@denzalwash4120]

You don’t “need” an xl bully most owners have an interest in the bull breeds and they have been sold as good family dogs with sound temperaments, same way people like mastiffs or Dobermans or Rottweilers etc.. it’s personal preference.

[@chrisso871]

It’s not a ‘cool look’ to own one of these. It’s a look that says ‘there goes an idiot’ Have you ever known a doctor or a professor with one of these beasts?

[@ScurvyRascal]

@@streetnuggets_ We're not talking big Vs small. We're talking instinct, what the dogs are bred for. Labradors retrieve. German shepherds herd/guard. XL bullies kill. You can't train a dog's instinct out of it.

[@ScurvyRascal]

@@streetnuggets_ No. I'm telling you I'd rather be attacked by a lab than an XL bully!

[@k9nick]

There is no need for very strong fighting type dogs that look aggressive. I think people that want such a dog, would own a lion as a pet if they could. To people that want these breeds, I'd suggest there's something in their psychology that's lacking. Like, hey, I'm tough. I have a ferocious dog at my command. Look how strong i am with my tiny penis.

[@Island-Hermit]

People should have the right to get whatever dog they want they are not dangerous only in the wrong hands that could be the same for any dog

[@k9nick]

@Frost20776 problem being that people with mental deficiency, lack of self esteem, need to be seen as macho, get scary looking dogs to be tough. In their eyes. Often to the detriment of the dog.

[@annonymous3948]

Here goes Holly Willowobboly giving it the fake "sincere" look.

[@gillianmcgough9743]

I think people who want to own these dogs and other working/ guard type breeds need to educate themselves covid has created so much bad breeding in dogs not just the temperaments but you see a lot of dogs in animal charities with serious heath issues English bulldogs, French bulldogs are one of the breeds that have really suffered people are breeding to make a quick buck, and arseholes are breeding the aggressive traits back into these xl bullies and when a irresponsible moron owns one its a recipe for disaster, it is unfair if you own one of these dogs and your being tied to the same brush

[@erfanafzali5189]

Once, I was coming home with my kids and saw one of these playing in my front garden. The dog was on his own . Both of my kids have SEN Needs and they both wanted to play with it because they didn't know how aggressive that dog can be . So I just stayed in my neighbours home till the useless owner came and picked that poor dog. If there was any chance to that dog see my kids , I don't know what woulhappen

[@mapleean2751]

Actually makes me laugh how so many people see the ban as a win, i bet the gov are laughing 😂 Its literally the easiest/simplest thing for them to do. Doesn't actually solve the problem though as it is down to the owners and theyll just jump on the next hyped dog breed. Labradours and smaller dogs can attack too. They need some kinda system thst blankets every dog breed. But that is hard and complicated, which is why theyre probabaly happy just doing this breed ban 🤣🤦‍♂️

[@rosannafrith]

An XL Bully is not a recognised breed in the UK. It will go down as breed type as the other 4 banned breeds. The only one of which really gets it in the neck is the APBT. And a lot of breeds look very VERY similar. Yes these dogs can be the most amazing and affectionate and the perfect family pet but breed trends have caused harm and will continue to. People need to stop buying dogs because they think they look good. And people need to stop breeding so irresponsibly for a profit. There are more dogs in the UK now than there ever has been. And WAY more behavioural problems. It starts with bad breeding (problematic behaviour in the parents, stressed mum during pregnancy, leading to issues in the pups) and then people buy these dogs not knowing how difficult it can be to own a dog especially those that are big and strong (and potentially with issues already due to irresponsible breeding!) then suddenly they have a dog they can’t control and the blame is placed on the dog. Dogs didn’t choose this. These overbred brachycephalic dogs, and other health issue ridden dogs don’t deserve what they are put through. I love every dog breed but I don’t trust the hands that they are handed to. Breed bans do f*ck all. Stick massive sanctions on breeders, bring back licensing for all dogs and especially larger more “dangerous” breeds. These dogs suffer enough, we need to stop making them so accessible to everyone. They didn’t choose this life yet so many think they are entitled to own a dog they know nothing about/aren’t prepared to work with.

[@simcastpodvids]

Why would anyone want a dog like that? Sunak get rid of all of them with immediate effect! The streets of Britain are unsafe with them around and time after time owners have shown irresponsibility. This matter needs to be handled with urgency. Tip toeing around this won't solve the problem.

[@Therianlove-masky]

Agree. Ban all that kind of dogs. So sad lots of people died of these dogs. They have to ban wether the owner is responsible or irresponsible . Life is more important than the owners opinions.

[@mukithvr6]

Exactly this, they are making silly excuses and trying to make it seem more complicated than it is! How ridiculous and petty by these animal Welfare organisations. 11 people have been killed in recent years by the XL bully. That is u unprecedented.

[@owenthompson4450]

It’ll be a very difficult to implement because there are so many different variations in this breed, it’s the only breed that has multiple sizes, Micro (The Smallest), Pocket (2nd smallest), Classic (middle sized), Standard (slightly bigger) Extreme (Very muscular version of standard) XL (the biggest version) Now the XL is the only member of that breed family that has actually been involved in attacks, this is mainly due to the demand the XL has, it’s a very large dog that needs so much exercise and training, sadly a lot of people have these dogs because they know they can make upwards of 2000 pounds and if they have paperwork it could even be as high as 5000 pounds, plus most of these same people are crackheads in an apartment where the dog is neglected and likely untrained. The truth is can we actually call the size variations the same breed, this is where the problem occurs, but a ban won’t do anything look at the Pitbull, banned in the 90’s yet still more and more attacks this is going to go the same way.

[@Azbomalik]

That dog expert said something very interesting, he said these dogs hv something called gameness in em, he forgot to add the fact that it was us humans that bred the gameness in them dogs, it’s the owners who r at fault not the breed

[@mo-sy9ws]

There should be laws keeping dogs on leads within society. They foul spaces, kill wildlife when theyre out of their owner's sight and control. My little yorkies have both been bitten while on their leads by loose running dogs, one incudent was near fatal and the owner wasnt even sorry. My son was almost attacked in our yard last week by a big loose dog jumping into our yard (lower walls are mansatory where we live) the owner said it was my fault that my disabled son was making strange sounds. People seem to think they have control, but really they do not.

[@hadesdogs4366]

I’ve met one and honestly he was sweet as a puppy and was the happiest thing I’ve ever seen, personally I believe that it’s the owners and not entirely the dogs fault but again I can see why many people would be nervous but the ultimate question would be What do we do with them now? We can either relocate them which would be emotionally stressful for the dogs or put them down which i doubt that the animal rights activists would agree with along with the vegan, but again I can see the appeal the same reasons why people want a German shepherd or even a rotwiler simply because they’re unique And if trained correctly could be the most lovable bundle of fuzz with four legs, that being said that yes they do have an aggressive personality, but with proper training, socialization with others and other animals would help reduce the amount of aggression within the dog, although personally Id simply suggest getting a pet rat

[@51Saffron]

We call them American Pit Bull Terrier and they are recognized breed.with the American Kennel Club and are showed. Not sure what you lot are talking about. Are they mixed breeds? . "The American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) is the only formal breed with the term "pit bull" in its name, there are four breeds that are commonly included in the modern pitbull-type category - the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and the American Bully". I know, and know of a lot of people who own them, and they have had no problem with them, they are strictly just part of the family. Most dog bites in my state are from small breed dogs, like the one we adopted, who has bitten me twice and my husband once. She is cool now, just PTS. The last mauling in our state was from a group of 4 Great Danes. Unfortunately, the poor boy died. He was being paid to feed them. This was definitely unusual for that breed. Maybe, it would be best for the breed and the people in the UK to just ban the dogs, and make people more responsible.

[@anthonymclean9743]

To be fair the only true pitbull is the APBT.

[@terenceflynn5125]

I was close to death after a dog attack, I genuinely think I would have died if three men hadn’t saved me as a child. I was in a local field/park. They kicked the dogs away like footballs. I lost a lot of blood. So did two other kids. 3 German Shepards and a bulldog. One mental ex-army man who didn’t close his gate who was the owner. That’s what it’s about, who owns the dog. Saying that, this type of dog is obviously a problem. They only exist to get around currently banned breeds from what I’ve read. Let’s just not have any more of them. Let the ones in loving families stay there, but not have any more being born, possibly killing or mauling people. It’s pretty simple really. XL bully and owners, be careful with your dog. No more pups. Anyone that has a dog, be a good Mum or Dad to your pet.

[@kxngjoker9014]

I have a staffy cross rottweiler softiest dog well trained I trust her around my son she's trained to take orders from him when we go out she stays by his side to protect him i will say though every dog has a risk to do harm it all depends on how to train how well the owner understands the breed so I disagree with these people labelling these specific dogs as dangerous because of bad breeders and owners these dog are now under heavy scrutiny I agree that on certain basis that they should be a system which dogs not just bull breeds have to be registered same as owners and breeders I think all breeds and owners should have to adhere to a new law so every dog is watched same for people too who own dogs

[@karencusack4159]

Totally agree. My friends xl bully is absolutely gorgeous, well trained, brilliant round other dogs and kids. They are extremely powerful. tighter controls definitely needed on all dog owners

[@doonewatts7155]

Future breeding could well make all the difference. Being serious it has for chocolate labs who are much calmer now

[@Rlynnj21]

ITS NOT A BREED! It is usually a mix of An American Pitbull Terrier, Boxer, Lab, many dogs.

[@Charl250]

My dog has been attacked 5x by 2 different dogs but know its about humans but the fact is we have to look into the owners on how they are treating/teaching the dogs, some people like Chris said he knows not to play tug of war with the dog but the owners probably do that. But after the attacks where are the owners that's the question. I know a couple of police officers who has been attacked by a dog and the dog has by the looks of it isn't on the dangerous dogs list. But it is down to the owners and the breeders. I've been approached a few years ago when I with my dog and a man wanted to bred his staffie with my dog and he was left disappointed when I told him no thanks my dog has been neutered so there was no way he will mating anytime soon and he soon left. But it's how you train them

[@lollands_]

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[@Island-Hermit]

You can't spell cucked without the UK

[@Thenugrowup]

You'll find dogs will have more loyalty to you then any politician or pm could ever provide

[@rastaman5354]

Banning a dog because of irresponsible owners is ridiculous. I was going to get a Belgian malinois until I did research and learned that with working dogs you need to do just as much training as you do walking. So many idiots and scumbags get this dog to try look cool and barely walk them let alone train them. Instead of banning a bread why not try put courses and licensing in place. Most dogs can be transformed after 6 weeks of training with the correct trainer

[@amandaj.barnes5919]

I walk my dog with my partner. I walk alone. She's on an extender. She's fed before we go out. I didn't buy my dog for her breed.

[@fibonaccitimes]

Ban = whoever owns one goes to jail or gets fined. Dangerous animals are to be put down immediately.

[@sarahgee1433]

I'd like to know the trainers qualifications, if he has any?????

[@atnassayshi2505]

When beautiful strong great dogs have to be put down because they have "a name" it is hard. Recently lost two great animals who never caused any problem. Brought up well by their owner and that is the key . I enjoyed their company do miss them.

[@rolandpalushi3069]

These people who are defending these dogs will definitely feel different if their child was attacked by one of them. They will change their mind instantly. Just think how that poor kid's family feels

[@rh7968]

They should just ban all fighting breeds, pitbulls and pitbull-hybrids which this dog is a descendant of. The breeders will just relabel

[@stevewalker2827]

These bully breed dogs are so loving and loyal dogs. It's bad ownership and media that has made them look so bad!. Every video I seen recently of a dog attack show me it's not even an American bully dog so why is there a ban!. Get your fax right before you you start baning. This country needs to wake up and deal with problems probably!!!

[@EvolutionIX219]

This is the biggest misconception ever. These dogs can and will turn on you in an instant.

[@noremorse4379]

This is a disgraceful lack of journalism here, let's talk about dogs in kennels being MURDERERED and friendly dogs not being allowed to be rehomed being killed! 1500 dogs were murdered in the previous 3 years based on this law! Those numbers will be doubled!

[@CatsandJP]

XL Bully dogs are different breeds and sizes..the Xl, Pocket, Micro and Toadline….they have Pit-bull, Mastiff and some even have Staffordshire Bull Terrier as well which were trained as champion fighting dogs…the prize money is behind that concept….a dog is only as good as the own who trains and cares for them…no training and the dog is dangerous especially when it gets the taste of blood..some Pit bulls lock their jaws and are difficult to get them open to release their prey..my daughter has 2 Staffys and she has trained them from day one using Ceser Milan techniques and training and she has had no problems…ultimately if the dog is not trained it is the one who suffers the most because they end up being destroyed because of the owner not taking responsibility for them.

[@lollands_]

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[@CM-vv8cv]

"ultimately if the dog is not trained it is the one who suffers the most because they end up being destroyed because of the owner not taking responsibility for them." Any dog that is that dangerous without stringent training is not fit for domestic pet use. People can get other dogs that don't kill people and children.

[@CatsandJP]

@@CM-vv8cvSame could be said of some unsupervised human when they decide to turn on people…did you not read my comment properly re training and caring by the owner…..as she said the owners need to be “fit and proper owners” and “responsible owners” did you not hear that bit either?

[@CM-vv8cv]

@@CatsandJP I did, I aptly responded with the point that the bull terrier breeds that make up the vast majority of dog attack fatalities clearly need such extensive training - but the owners can't be trusted to do this, so ownership must be banned. Your analogy with humans was already refuted, Humans have an understanding of consequences, we are also humans ourselves, our own species survival is paramount, and Bullies are not good for that. We don't need em, they kill people, they can go. To extinct ourselves for an idiot to make a point on youtube is a laughable demonstration of your stupidity.

[@CM-vv8cv]

@@Chambers36TheEnter Lockjaw isn't really a protected term, and the idea of them tasting blood isn't the root of issues either. The reality is aggression being much more in built to these bull breeds, as well as lack of telegraphed body language before they act. Their breeding was done to produce a good creature for bull-baiting and pit-fighting, the result is a breed not fit for domestic pet use, shown with statistics portraying a damning reality of these dogs being far more likely to attack than other breeds, and more likely to kill than pretty much all other breeds combined.

[@willyhwang1059]

backyard breeders of these dogs are mixing it with other aggressive breeds.

[@lukegriffin6507]

This morning GMTV I would like you to get in contact with me as I am a owner of 2 XL Bully dog as 35 year no family and with previous mental health issues you don't understand how important some of these XL bullies are to somone like me and I believe solution to problem

[@lukegriffin6507]

See you don't understand it's because of them I no longer suffer with my mental health issues

[@zanehavic4125]

All bulldog owners are compensating for something extremely small.

[@MikeMJPMUNCH]

This is such a politician move they see problem but instead of going after the real problem the go for the simple one just so that they can look like they are being effective in solving problems and score some points with the public.

[@SpareSomeChange8080]

By that logic, we should lift the firearm ban, right?

[@alexanderangelo7284]

​@SpareSomeChange8080 Yes let's do that to. It's the regulatory system that protects you anyway, not the gun ban. If gun bans protected you, Sweden, Switzerland and Czechia would have mass shootings despite their gun control laws, but they don't. They have any type of gun they want, provides they are licensed and registered.

[@ranstxx]

All these dogs they bring on looked like theyve been given calmers

[@miamivibe234]

It’s a hard one because they can be lovely but anything that poses such a large threat to society should definitely not be allowed to be owned , Most of the time the owners are getting walked by the dog instead of the other way round , This is a clear indicator that if the dogs flips the owners are in no way shape or form fit to control them , We cannot blame all owners of these dogs either just like people you get good and bad dogs ! , Sometimes the dogs themselves are just problematic and have perfectly respectable decent owners

[@paulgannon6825]

How do you register your dog? What does it mean Does it mean getting it chipped?

[@george-ev1dq]

chipping is mandatory in al parts of the UK, the only part of the UK where dogs must be registered and licenced is Northern Ireland .

[@zeusricochant7357]

TBF it's probably 70% of people that have the dogs are irresponsible and the other 30% are probably great family pet's that live in a family

[@hi-bd5kn]

The government should actually try stopping the wrong people from getting these dogs except from being lazy and just banning the breed

[@mukithvr6]

You can have a balanced argument. Fine. But XL bully is a dangerous dog. It’s a breed designed and driven to kill. That’s it. It is NOT a social dog. Stop making excuses and lies.

[@ll-vp7xr]

when are you going to discuss drugs this is simply England

[@619jacoby]

I have two pit bulls and they are trusted more with my dogs then any other person or other dog is NO SUCH THING AS A BAD DOG BREED JUST BAD DOG OWNERS

[@HeatherDMorris]

His youngest mauler, i mean member of the fanily .

[@business6938]

I can understand that a dog can be bred to have certain physical attributes, but how does that effect their temperament and behaviour? Dogs are tame animals, so how can it be bred to be aggressive, surely it has to be taught that as they’re not born that way right?

[@annamari7863]

bred to fight. Traits like muscle power and aggression selected.

[@browneyedb]

Genetic traits are a thing

[@KnoneOfficial]

Dogs are not tame. They are very aggressive. Just the way almost all of them bark at you when you walk by a yard they're in, or a window they're behind, is enough to demonstrate this.

[@business6938]

@@annamari7863 they’re bred to have physical attributes, strength and agility. But how can they be bred to fight or be aggressive, they have to be trained to become that way and taught to fight right?

[@Theresebonath6077]

I feel sad for these dogs aswell because they are so often abused and ofcourse thats where aggression comes from aswell as the breed itself. These so called owners are ppl that never should be allowed to have a pet in the first place because just like your children your pets comes first so you protect them with all you have so that they dont get harmed or not harming anyone else. Its to easy to buy a dog i want to see certificate when it comes to ownership

[@ocean4594]

The guy calls his dog Furiosa? Says it all. Chris had no idea what he was speaking about. Social connection? Oh please! You wanted that dog because it looks 'mean'. I would put my life on it

[@davidgreveson2696]

Moron

[@jamesdean514]

Chris is a bell end says it all doesn’t let children play tug with dog

[@nutcracker2916]

Unfortunately you sometimes get irresponsible breeders involved with the breeding of Bully type dogs. An ex convicted Tottenham F.C. thug was involved in promoting and selling of these breeds as a sideline to his MMA fighting. So you can only imagine the kind of "people" who are buying/ bought these types of breeds ? Feel sorry for the poor wee dogs.

[@elisa7881]

Every killer dog once was a lovable pet to their owners. "Cost benefit", ridiculous! You can't control humans (breeders) so legislate the animals.

[@randymcgrath2307]

Instead of us constantly blaming dogs for the death rates going up how about we blame our living conditions we’re being confined to tiny apartment complexes with no room for activities. What do you think it’s doing to the dogs?

[@ciaranmcguinness8900]

Get rid of it and destroy all belonging to those who ignore the ban

[@englishlady8863]

Social connection. I've never heard such a load of bull. 😅

[@jamessiddle7389]

Don't ban the breed, ban bad owner's.

[@CM-vv8cv]

That's what they're doing. We can't "ban bad owners", that's incredibly childish. Oh great, we know this dog mauled your kids face off but NOW we can punish the owner after the attack has already happened, what an amazing system that has so far led to Bullies making up the MAJORITY of dog attack fatalities. We've tried that, it DOES NOT WORK. So no - we ban ownership, because any owner can be a bad owner, because the public cannot be trusted with this dog. I'm sick of seeing people have their life changed because idiots want to bring a fighting breed into domestic pet use, that's just stupid. Ban the breed, and the bad owners will be banned.

[@SpareSomeChange8080]

Exactly! Don't blame the gun, blame the owner. The firearms ban is wrong.

[@pepeee17643]

@@SpareSomeChange8080 Dumb comparison. A gun is not even alive while *an XL bully is a muscular mammal which has been bred to fight. Get off your high horse, this is not America.*

[@CM-vv8cv]

@@SpareSomeChange8080 The owner can't be trusted exactly, don't ban firearms, legislate the owners from having access to them, so firearms can live in peace in their respective arms depot's and military bases and shooting ranges. Those owners don't need access to them. (Also, I'm from the UK, guns aren't banned here.)

[@SpareSomeChange8080]

@@pepeee17643 it's absolutely comparible if you're going to blame *only* the owner. If you want to ban the breed and ban the gun, fine. If you don't want to ban the breed and not ban the gun, also fine. It's the "X is dangerous but it should be allowed, but punish bad owners of X", the inconsistency

[@maryp7132]

I have a great idea! Why not bad the irresponsible dog owners? That would make much more sense. Thank f6ck I'm in America, where I'm allowed to own this wonderful breed.

[@james1640]

Stan is clueless. He was on another show and said he hadn’t been around the breed. I have been around XL Bully’s and I can hand on heart say they have never ‘turned’. It has always and will always be the fault lies with the owner of how they are trained.

[@FreeRsGuides]

Actually he said he NO LONGER works with the breed because of the risks. Typical low IQ pitbull advocate, can barely understand a sentence

[@LindaC616]

There was a time that was true. These days, many people adopt them because they were bred and will be euthanized if not adopted. So lots of people are out to rescue them. Because as a breed, they're not bad dogs. It has to do with the owner and the individual dog.

[@tigeriron1]

anecdotes < statistics

[@CM-vv8cv]

That's a single anecdotal experience, so let me counter it with mine. I grew up with one I knew, was well raised, treated well. Then? It snapped after years, out of nowhere, after no bad body language from myself (despite how much bully lovers want to gaslight victims of these attacks and always say it's the victims fault) And I was lucky not to be bodily disfigured like the MULTIPLE children that are every year. If the breed requires such stringent training not to attack the public, it shouldn't be brought into the public and entrusted to the public that aren't doing so. Simple. Ban them. Enough is enough, get a proper domestic pet, not a breed that was bred for fighting instincts. Just plain obvious for fucks sake.

[@LowleyUK]

Same with my pet lions. They never attacked anybody so I should be allowed to walk them at the park