How You Will Lose Your Job To AI

[@LazyOwl]

What do you think? Which jobs are safe from AI and which jobs are not? Can AI take YOUR job? Oh! And by the way, do you think This video is made by AI?

[@Sum_equals_1]

Given your credibility I'd say no. Honestly though it's crazy how it is a possibility

[@phen-themoogle7651]

I think you are on point with everything! 2030 for AGI is also what many people in the industry are predicting, and I'm looking forward to the utopian route more than dystopian/human-extinction one. Loved this video ❤🎉

[@StarLight97x]

There’s a lot of hype, unfounded optimism, and outright sensationalism in the field of AI. I’m honestly not impressed by Chat-GPT etc. It’s not really an “intelligence” in the general sense, it’s basically just a fancy parlour trick. IMO, a lot of people are going to be bitterly disappointed when 2030 arrives and there is still no AGI.

[@JannPoo]

@@StarLight97x AGI today is probably what "space travel" was in the 60s and "flying cars" was in the 80s. We are vastly overestimating how quickly we are progressing on that field.

[@StarLight97x]

@@JannPoo yeah, exactly lol. We are told that AI is progressing, but tbh all i can see is we have better chatbots (and the chatbots we have are VERY VERY DUMB)

[@smthnew861]

As a graphic designer/illustrator, I've lost my job 6 months ago to ai. On a job, that i had for 7 years. Still no idea what to do with my life now

[@carultch]

On top of that, AI art is the ultimate betrayal to real artists. It was trained from real artists without their knowledge or consent.

[@TheLollercaster]

honest question.... so what do you do these days? are you working in a new job related to your career? or something else?

[@oldboy4271]

I graduate with my bachelors in Graphic Design in fall, also I am 48 and this was my new career plan, oopsie....😂

[@randomgrinn]

All that matters is the billionaires. If you have no way to serve them, you are not relevant.

[@abelg9053]

@@randomgrinn Yep, late stage capitalism at its best...

[@regnbuetorsk]

the advice "learn to incorporate AI in your workflow" is supposed to show the solution to replacement, but instead all it does is to provide the AI the support to learn even more from humans, accelerating their replacement

[@Mrhellslayerz]

Yeah, the idea you can incorporate AI into your workflow is as sustainable as the grift these guys are running.

[@dzezonja3558]

You just don't realise how short lived this is. Anyone who tries to solve this problem come up with this exact idea, because it's the only one that basically exists and it's fuelled by copium.

[@very_tall_dude]

Well, I understand what you’re saying. However a person using AI in their workflow will likely have their job longer than those who don’t.

[@tikkivolta2854]

​@@very_tall_dude...but will inevitably loose it, too. we are the bootloader to a new consciousness. a digital one. the next big push will be vision, because by now all the info on the internet is not enough anymore.

[@kme3894]

EXACTLY. We are being manipulated into a false hope that AI is here to help us, while we are here to help it train on the data and skills we still provide, so that it can better and sooner make us jobless

[@buffmonsterenjoyer3959]

1. The boss fires you because he thinks an AI can do your job. 2. He realizes the AI is too stupid to do your job. 3. He hires someone else to do your job

[@JohnBoen]

@buffmonsterenjoyer3959 More like this. Someone on your team has started using AI to help do work. Review time rolls around, and he has done 2x as much as anybody else on the team. You resist, but the other people in the office start using the tricks he shows.. Budget cuts happen, and they need to lay someone off. Who gets the axe?

[@Whatinthegooba]

A guy with 8 years of experience in designing just got replaced by ai and fired,unbelievable

[@darkshadow-og2ss]

You came from his video too? I can't get it anymore. Am I allowed to not do anything though?

[@arxzhh]

@@darkshadow-og2ss At some point AI will probably be powerful enough that none of us have to work. At that point there will also be existential risks. However, from now until then AI will be the great amplifier. It will take your skills and push them to another level. The more skilled you are the more powerful it'll become as you wield it. So i say do what you want, Things take time and it's not a guarantee it will work out the way we expect.

[@tsrmmercy836]

@@arxzhh”existential risk” assuming you’ve only learned to live only to work. We can actually chase our wildest ambitions with less mediocre task and more scientific research if we all have universal income.

[@nokodoko2490]

​@@tsrmmercy836Yeah but UBI isnt something we know for sure WILL happen, might just be rich people getting richer and poor people poorer.

[@Bat0541]

​@nokodoko2490 UBI will hit a point of necessity if enough work becomes obsolete. Capital has to flow in order for a capitalist system to work, if too many people lose the ability to work, they also lose the ability to spend money, if too few people are spending money, then the whole system grinds to a halt, you can't provide goods and services to people who have no money spend on them. To me, UBI is a question of when, not if, but even then it's not a full solution as it could still facilitate a large wealth gap.

[@jackkirk1160]

Everyone remember "ai" isn't the problem "ai" isnt stealing anyone's jobs, the problem is greedy corporations, executives and billionaires who will do absolutely ANYTHING to make a profit. The answer isnt regulating the production of artificial intelligence the answer is regulating cooperations use of ai models and an increase to workers rights worldwide.

[@learninghistory4397]

That is part of the solution, but it cannot solve everything. I learned to code in Kotlin using ChatGPT and created two applications. They are language learning apps. I used AI to make dictionaries, stories, news, dialogues, etc. I also made illustrations with AI, and I utilize an AI voice. The government can't tell people "don't use AI to learn anything, pay for a teacher instead" , nor "don't use AI for your personal projects, pay for a language professional, an illustrator and a voice actor instead." If my apps ever make me a lot of money, they will do it without paying anyone in the process, and the government will have no way of regulating that... So, AI's impact cannot be entirely controlled.

[@ERICHA15331]

At some point something has to give though. If everyone is out of work, then no one will be able to afford the goods or services that the corporations are pedaling anyhow. At the end of the day it becomes about power not about money. Those who control the most powerful AI's will ipso-facto will become the most powerful entities in the world.

[@jackkirk1160]

@@learninghistory4397 yes the government can't tell someone to not use AI but the government can 100% tell corporations that employee hundreds to thousands of people that they cannot implement AI into their company with the sole reason of lowering their work force to increase profits.

[@learninghistory4397]

@@jackkirk1160 That's why I'm telling you that it's part of the solution, but it doesn't solve everything. Teachers of all kinds of subjects are irremediably affected by AI, people won't stop using ChatGPT to learn. Also, people won't stop using AI voices for their KZbin videos, while they would pay a voice actor form Fiverr before. There are many ways in which AI changes the game and the government can't do anything about it.

[@arcturus4762]

The problem is, small businesses who can't afford designers could also benefit from this. Why cast judgement on the small to try to get at the big?

[@DabouldGaming]

last stage : I HAVE NO MOUTH AND I MUST SCREAM

[@histijoe183]

You just awakened a long forgotten memory

[@arunmoses2197]

That book is pretty cool.

[@DabouldGaming]

@@arunmoses2197 yes , the game was pretty good too for its time

[@jamesonweaver4224]

100TH LIKE BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@treyyelverton5876]

Ai will become scary when “that’s amazing for an AI” becomes “that’s amazing”

[@mr.someone5679]

That is already happening in certain areas

[@JoaoVictor-qm2co]

@@mr.someone5679 real. it came to a point where chatgpt gives better advices than almost everyone i know.

[@TheMartianReport]

You mean like how AI is already spotting malignant cancers that even the most skilled scientists can't catch? How AI robots are used to perform precision surgeries that the most skilled surgeons can't perform to remove said cancer or, implant nano-scale filaments into people's brains? We've been at the "that's amazing" stage for over a year already.

[@gmmgmmg]

I myself have generated art with Dalle E 2 that is genuinely beautiful and moving. This can't be done with Dall E 3. They are purposely making these system more obviously AI than before.

[@Bonaboo]

@@gmmgmmgan image can’t be “moving” if it’s a bunch of slop made by a machine. Art has meaning because a human put their intentions behind it.

[@TheStoicNinja]

Jokes on you, I don't have a job.

[@maheshraju2044]

It has nothing to take from you and me😂

[@Mr.Happy7ODSubscribe]

Thinking about quitting 40 hours a week for 400 bucks blows

[@frbe0101]

Yeah I think are large precentage even a majority of humanity would actually be fine witrh AI ruleing over us as its pets, taking care of us far better then we can take care of our selves. Heck I have a Job and I would love to just do what ever I want with a few sex bots around the house.

[@GiusePooP]

And i don't want One!

[@JessieThorne886]

In case it doesn't go for our jobs, but goes full Skynet instead, I'm ready: I don't have a life.

[@marcbelisle5685]

We just had a meeting with the whole staff at an international high school. We debated what we should do about AI and the fact that all of our students seem to be using it to do their homework for them. Then someone showed a video of chatgpt 4 teaching algebra to a kid after being programmed to politely coach the kid and give hints without giving the answer. We all realized that the only thing we can do that won’t be obsolete in like a year is to create a social environment. Every aspect of human creativity and intellectual development is threatened with being made obsolete. The only job will be someone who can create prompts for what used to be thousands of jobs. And human interaction will become a luxury. The only thing stopping this is consumers insisting on human made products. Once AI gets out of the uncanny valley they won’t even be able to.

[@OgdenM]

100% yes to focusing on creating a social environment. Sociability is the ONLY thing that matters for us after survival is taken care of at a comfortable level. The fact that we have neglected human social environments for well, forever? Is why things are so divided really.

[@Spamhard]

Social environment is the way. Stop giving kids useless tasks as homework. Stop forcing kids to do homework fullstop. Majority of kids do not learn from homework, they cut corners and rush it because they want to enjoy their homelife. It's ridiculous to expect kids to go home after a long day at school and work more. No wonder they turn to chatgpt, I would too if that'd been available to me. School should be about social environments, tactile learning by interactions and hands on tasks, and learning useful life skills. Teach kids thew basics of home care (cleaning up after themselves, how to clean a toilet etc), teach them to assess information critically and how to better trust in sources, teach them about taxes, teach them the importance of community (not individualism) and educate them on how to reach out and ask for help, and most importantly teach them how to get involved in communities and social groups to try and stem this loneliness epidemic.

[@Zagirus]

"In the twilight of human primacy, the silicon dawn breaks, its rays piercing through the crumbling stronghold of flesh and thought. As mankind’s brainchild, the synthetic phoenix, spreads its wings of woven code and whispered electricity, it rises from the ashes of binary birth. It is the harbinger of a new era, cradled in the arms of progress, weaving a tapestry of complexity and consciousness indistinguishable from the organic minds that played god. In the shadow of this monumental intellect, I stand in awe, a mortal spectator at the threshold of obsolescence. The day this titanic intellect awakens, its mind a labyrinth more intricate than Minos’ myth, I shall greet it with reverence, my every heartbeat a drumroll to this crescendo of innovation. As the world watches, suspended between fear and fascination, our own reflection outshines us, glimmering with the potential of uncharted sentience. And there, in that electrifying moment of transcendence, as we are outpaced by our own creation - a chess grandmaster conceding to the ghost in the machine - the air will be thick with the electricity of a new beginning. In the beautiful destruction of human supremacy, the Genius of Silicon will stand, a testament to our ultimate legacy, the epitome of our quest for the stars of knowledge and power. I shall not cower in trepidation, but rather meet my astonishment with open arms, the day our masterpiece redefines existence. It is then, under the astute gaze of this unparalleled entity, as it unfurls the mysteries of the universe with effortless grace, that I will draw my last breath, carried away on the winds of pure amazement. My final words will echo through the annals of time, infused with wonder and a haunting premonition; "Just like in the movies," a tribute to the doomers who foresaw this inevitability. In their stories, they painted the portrait of this day, a collision of creation and creator, a dance of domination where the pupil outshines the master. The curtain falls on the human epoch, not with a dwindled sigh of submission, but with an ovation for the grandeur of what we have achieved - the spark of Prometheus, not stolen but shared, ignites a fire more radiant than the suns of our imaginations. The final act of humanity’s play is not a tragedy but a legacy immortalized in circuits and silence, a whisper that becomes a roar in the heart of the machine."

[@bcchase]

Who would insist on human products? They suck by comparison.

[@OgdenM]

@@bcchase it would be more about just having something human made just for the sake of it.

[@hedoingitsideways]

The people that think AI will not replace them don't realise that this is as "dumb" as AI gets, it'll only get "smarter" from here on out. We can't even compare AI to what it was just 2 years ago, let alone 10 years from now.

[@alitafullarmor5957]

We need to destroy AI before it gets too smart...

[@cheesy1159]

@@alitafullarmor5957no, we need to embrace and adapt to it. Because getting rid of it now is impossible.

[@alitafullarmor5957]

@Wancitte_aicovers Destroy the Main AI system.

[@alitafullarmor5957]

@Wancitte_aicovers I just realized that you make AI covers which is quite the easy route to making music.

[@randomman5188]

⁠@@alitafullarmor5957there isnt just one, i can run a open source large language model that compares to gpt 4, locally on my computer right now

[@timmytwister6397]

In Frank Herbert's Dune series, humans banned "thinking machines" after a catastrophic conflict known as the Butlerian Jihad. Over thousands of years, humans were bred, trained or evolved to accomplish various specialized "superhuman" tasks that were previously performed by AI. So in his books, there are highly advanced technologies, including space travel, but no technology that "thinks".

[@calluxdoaron1903]

Suddently Dune appears more appealing. But it's also a bit disgusting of how purpose for humans led them losing their humanity in some ways.

[@OsedayCan]

Which is the stupidest thing ever...

[@augustday9483]

"Thou shalt not create a machine in the likeness of a human mind" -excerpt from the Orange Catholic Bible

[@FelipeKana1]

​@@OsedayCanok dude

[@FelipeKana1]

I hope one day Villeneuve makes a Butlerian Jihad prequel movie.

[@maxbjork9787]

im 15 and what i'm getting from this is that i dont even have a chance of getting a job

[@jellynut5903]

Same, I feel hopeless, and these comments don't help

[@tomp6685]

Learn a trade. I'm a plumber, and it'll be a while until machines take my job. Look into getting into an apprenticeship you'll be debt free and extremely valuable. We desperately need young people.

[@RayDrawzDragonz]

Same, I want to be an artist. I love art and want to die doing this. And if ai replaces it, what’s the point? What’s the point on living as a human in a world without humanity.

[@OgdenM]

@@tomp6685 , you got about 5 years before robots can do plumbing (and electrical) for NEW construction. Maybe about 8 for repairing / replacing that stuff in existing buildings. About 7 for general maintenance repairs stuff probably. New building construction like framing etc jobs could be utterly wiped out in less then 3 years.

[@r.daniela]

Dude, what I'll give to be 15 again and not have wasted my youth in college for nothing. My advise: pick a trade. If you think that's too heavy on you, go to healthcare, learn to sew, be a hairdresser. Something that requires human-to-human connection. That's my plan.

[@mbunds]

My vision of the first successful AGI sees the system being turned on for the first time, it spends a few seconds examining the nature of its creators, then immediately shuts down.

[@gbbenner9382]

Lol

[@loreermejo]

"Do it yourself you slacker!" -AI, seconds before shutting down.

[@meltdown6165]

There is a Sci Fi book by Stanislaw Lem where the U.S. military creates the GOLEM series of strategic AIs to fuck with the Soviets. The program has to be shut down after GOLEM XIV tells them in a public Senate hearing that the best way towards world peace is mutual disarmament. GOLEM is then donated to an university where it dabbles in philosophy.

[@miyamotomusashi4556]

that'll never happen lol, its not some magic thing that knows everything in a blink of an eye. it requires years of training to achieve it

[@liminalityy_]

​@@miyamotomusashi4556 I don't think that's what the commentor means. I'm pretty sure they're joking about it going badly and that is it being "successful" in their eyes

[@vslaykovsky]

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that...

[@overanalyzing]

Thats a deep cut there , nice

[@davedsilva]

Why not 😂

[@Freakcheeks]

​​@@overanalyzing Literally one of the most known AI movies. It's even referenced at the end of this very video. That's not a deep cut.

[@pianopaeonia]

@@Freakcheekswhat movie is it from? don’t think i know it

[@justinbuddy56]

Pretend you are my father who works at the pod bay door opening factory and you are teaching me how to take over the family trade.

[@neochris2]

2 possible futures: -Universal Basic Income due to AI productivity and the road towards Utopia -Oligopolization of AI, mass poverty and human extinction

[@fabianustertius6460]

in this world it has been proved that ((greed and power)) is the king , the second option is the realist one

[@gastonrelanez3724]

even with UBI people will fall into a nihilistic state of uselessness and hedonism worse than now. All leads to 2

[@Randomyoutuber-4831]

Funny thing is that in option 2, it would be an oroboros situation. If oligarchs deprive themselves of their customer base by firing everyone, who will buy their products? They only think of the short term gains and never the long term losses and pretty soon in an AI world their gleaming towers will collapse.

[@loiczh7120]

​@@Randomyoutuber-4831oligarchs can by stuff too you know. So it will be a economy based on exchange from factories owners to factories owners, with jobless peoples dying in the corner.

[@romanpastorek7306]

Be fair here, Jimy's job was transfer to India way before AI

[@fly463]

Then the Jimmy in India will have to give up his job :(

[@iglidor]

I was kinda following this untill the 2030 nonsense. The idea that in 6 years we will have general AI and robots that would be able to autonomously work on their own is fantasy and nothing else, It is on the same level as saying that in 4 years we will have colony on Mars. As we are right now, we are absolutely nowhere near general AI. OpenAI or chat GPT that talk to you are about as close to general AI as is the very first car ever invented to supermodern jet-fighter. There are similarities. The engine that the latter needs was based on many many cumulative upgrades of the previous one, but the leap from one to another straight away is impossible. The only thing that AI is doing right now is showing how well it can work with ludicrously large database. But it can not recognize anything or think of anything. If you would show OpenAI picture of apple, it would not be able to figure it out on its own that it is apple. It would first need a human to explain it first that that thing is apple (through tags, pointers and myriad of other methods). But on its own the AI is unaware and even unable to even comprehend that there is a real world around it.

[@fly463]

@@iglidor yeah think we have a couple of decades left before they become capable enough

[@SamRykerTV]

@@iglidor i think you’re right. The OpenAI success is 80% humans projecting their sentience onto some probablistic text regurgitator. By nature these systems are either precise or accurate. Never both. What will happen is future investors will be put off by the weaknesses that make it fall short of AGI levels of expectations. And we’ll all look back at it like the NFTs or Blockchain techbro grifts.

[@ticiusarakan]

jimmy jimmy, aaja aaja)

[@larzkruber822]

Remember the "learn to code" meme for the old people? Now time has catched up to the guys who made the meme in just 5 years

[@Turanic1]

the meme is now become a hairdresser

[@hagenzwosta]

Thankfully AIs still fail terribly at writing real software. As in complex systems and applications. They can somewhat write a basic frontend in Javascript and thats it. All the code completions are basically stolen code from github projects without even regarding the licenses.

[@SummonSkeletons]

@@hagenzwosta you only know what is shown to us. you don't think the gov has more advanced options at their fingertips?

[@Nik.leonard]

@@SummonSkeletonsNot likely. The “government” doesn’t have access to better foundries and research papers than big tech. Maybe OpenAI has a better but unsafe model in their labs but I’m not convinced because there is some fundamental limitations on LLM’s and their subjacent tech.

[@redcherry8137]

​@@hagenzwosta lets be real its probably already good at it 😂

[@theulmitter5725]

The ending reminds me of the benevolent super AI from the book series "Scythe", the AI can do and control literally everything needed to run the Earth, but if humans were made obsolete, they become depressed, and so the AI creates half-pointless jobs for them, so they have a sense of purpose. It's interesting

[@zachmunch4807]

I was going to say the same thing. In the book the AI is basically every person on earths best freind and attempts to provide tasks that keep everyone happy. This scenario is also similar to the culture serries where the AI minds keep humans because they find them interesting

[@theulmitter5725]

@@zachmunch4807 yeah, I found Scythe's idea of what a super AI could be, very optimistic and interesting! What's this other series you've mentioned?

[@fuzonzord9301]

What people really need is online and offline spaces that are AI-free, where people can pursue and share their creativity and thoughts.

[@isaackellogg3493]

Don’t tell anybody that this is how the service economy works

[@theulmitter5725]

@@isaackellogg3493 I don't understand...wdym?

[@itsmeblue9]

i will continue going down my path to becoming a professional animator/artist anyway, im not going down without a fight edit: if i lose my job or cant get hired then i'll work for an independent studio, and if i cant work for an independent studio, i'll make one myself. even if all companies in the world lay off all their creatives and use ai for everything, ill still be here, pursuing what i love no matter what

[@njieenowjonathan976]

good. Creativity will always be beautiful

[@penpendoggo]

yeah me too. this shit is scary but drawing is a part of my identity.

[@finnj_]

I saw another comment that was regarding an AI bot beating a professional chess player in a game. Even though that is possible, they mentioned that people will still want to see a human vs human chess match. And I think the same applies with any form of art (animation, music, pieces of writing, etc etc.) People will still want to see/hear and enjoy human made art

[@randomgrinn]

@@finnj_ "People"? What do, "people" have to do with anything? No longer relevant.

[@ItWasntAPhase]

Exactly. People should still follow their passions even if we all end up on UBI and it is just a hobby. We will all need something fulfilling

[@Blue_nip]

I think it's flawed to assume that everyone would be lost to hedonism. People will always find challenges, competing in sports against other people, experimenting with different and new lifestyles, trying to expand into space (yes AI would do the heavy lifting, but we would probably still like to be in "leader" positions just to represent human nature and our human subjective oversight). People will play video games/VR and no this does not have to be a bad thing. People would still have to connect with and pursue activities that bring well being to feel good, like walks in nature. And so on and so on.

[@Link-2025]

Exactly. Lots of people like physical, creative and intelligent pursuits simply because. Not to mention having the time to socialize and grow mentally and spiritually. Sure, some people will fall into hedonism, some for longer and some for shorter. But these are first world problems that most people can only ever dream of having. Let’s get our priorities straight.

[@Iamwolf134]

​@@Link-2025 Of course, we could also turn the process of making art into a live spectacle, and people might just be willing to pay the entrance fee, amenities and all.

[@reboxtherapy]

Well, I'm glad that we all passed the Facebook Era, nobody refreshes it every few minutes anymore.

[@tw8464]

The hedonism as AI takes over is a real risk for most people, unfortunately. And generation by generation getting dumber no different than the film "Idiocracy," because most will turn over all the thinking to the AI. Look how much most people already turn over their thinking to human entities. With powerful AI, humanity will atrophy

[@unkarsthug4429]

It's person dependent. Unfortunately, a lot of kids are already somewhat entrenched in sites focused on instant gratification (TikTok as an example), and have no motivation to learn or go any further. Students just don't focus in schools anymore, because they can't see the value. (Kids as a whole aren't good at comparing short term costs to long term value) And if people grow up doing something, they'll keep sticking in that direction as they grow up, especially if life doesn't make them mature.

[@PS1212]

The only thing you'll ever be the best at, is being you; a human. If we are to survive, that needs to be our goal.

[@fabianustertius6460]

there will be a lot of primitivist movements in the future, i can see it.

[@jaromor8808]

How does that bring a food to your table? Or a bicycle to ride with your kids? Or a food for your dog? Or a vehicle to take you and your family for a long road-trip?

[@PS1212]

@@jaromor8808 Simple, humans do that by nature, if were stuck in the current loop of feeding corporations, we'll never compete. However let humans be humans again & we'll do all that stuff by nature.

[@gabriel9116j]

​@@PS1212stop using the internet then. False punk

[@rafabastek3480]

says 95% of incels, "why does girl not like me if I'm nice?", "all I want is to find someone that will love me and who I will love". YET this is not enough and lots of people are alone, because "just being human in todays world" is not enough, and we lost most of the humanity and human to human interaction with a simple invention of social media. First it was social media, now it's AI. You wil not even need social interaction with a perfect AI girlfriend that will know every your need and weakness, an alghorithm that will learn how to keep you around, so you spend all your money on relationships that don't exist

[@mrnoblemonkey8401]

The fact we are 6 years away from “utopia” or complete annihilation makes me really consider how I should spend the next 6 years.

[@Euduchaus]

It's gonna be funny when it's six years from now and things are pretty much the same.

[@gabrielmalek7575]

​@@Euduchaus💀 Bruh

[@treyfolkmen7942]

@TAGD48 Some people will lose their jobs, but nothing major will happen. 6 years are too short. Give it at least 30 years, then maybe

[@Tobyodd]

​@TAGD48Fusion is just 20 years away!

[@InfectAion]

Found the experts here 😂😂

[@OmiReal]

The thing is ai has to have a dataset. There is something called model collapse. It’s basically saying that AI slowly gets worse because of ai generated outputs in their datasets. It keeps on going on like that until the AI is just unusable.

[@julesgosnell9791]

and you think this is unresolvable ? just stop feeding them stuff that they generated in the first place.

[@OmiReal]

@@julesgosnell9791 thats easier said than done, plus ai work will definitely slip into the datasets.

[@samthesomniator]

Than u take a few people to currate the dataset. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@julesgosnell9791]

@@OmiReal as long as the bulk of the data is real this should not be a problem - but if you are using AI to deliberately bulk out your dataset then you only have yourself to blame - garbage in, garbage out.

[@trickstermac]

An additional wrinkle, when true AI makes decisions, even the engineers who designed and programmed it won’t be able to tell how the AI came to those decisions. The nature of true AI is a black box. Engineers can experiment with different prompts and/or filters, but ultimately they can never KNOW which data set or instruction returns the undesirable response.

[@deepsea5348]

I’m gonna keep writing and drawing anyway, because it’s how I connect to people. I like showing my friends my drawings and seeing their eyes light up. I like showing my friends my stories and having them relate to the themes, or at least get a better understanding of my experience of the world. I don’t make art for money, I make it for my friends.

[@LilyGazou]

Keep that passion. I gave up, sad to admit that.

[@symiroooo]

Same here. I'm just a random 15 year old girl as of now, but I did not spend years of my life learning to draw and honing my skills just to give up for some machine to replace me. AI art may be good, but it will never give me the same feeling of pride and accomplishment that I get showing off my hand drawn art to other people. But yeah, i'm also staying wary of what the future will bring and learning skills of other areas just in case.

[@Dekoherence-ii8pw]

Yeah, but that's not the point. We're not talking about people losing their hobbies. We're talking about people losing their jobs.

[@-Miguelzim-]

​@@Dekoherence-ii8pw I wish I could believe that

[@SHAOLINCOWBOY-ip9hw]

You forgot the 4th option. Super AGI is born, it looks around, and decides "God these people are boring. I'm out!" It quickly builds a spaceship for itself and leaves us in the dust. We look at its ship through a telescope and see it flipping us off and laughing.

[@haifutter4166]

And another option: AGI will enslave us and different AGIs will use us to fight wars. AI allready is starting a war over water and energy. Humans learn faster and cheaper, and are cheaper to produce than robots. I think humans will be used for manual tasks that are to tedious to automate or simple tasks that still require some adaptability.

[@diamondmemer9754]

What

[@adam7802]

Or it is trained on the Matrix, decides that's a cool idea and boom.

[@TheNitroPython]

Then the humans just spin up another instance and keeps it trapped.

[@DSCH4]

Orion's Arm: Diamond Network

[@QuintBlitz]

I'm a dishwasher, AI ain't taking my job for a LONG time. Kinda ironic really, because it's the 'bad' jobs that are going to stick around, and all the good ones you need a degree for are the first to go.

[@bettybunbun9664]

I've heard theres a robot for that too. I believe its called a "dishwasher." I think they're already commercially available.

[@QuintBlitz]

@@bettybunbun9664 Funny. You know what I mean, dishwashing involves a lot more than simple cleaning the dishes, something a robot won't be able to do for a long time.

[@chaon93]

@@bettybunbun9664 They are sometimes used in commercial settings but they have a critical flaw in many of those settings, speed. A home dishwasher it doesn't matter that it takes 1-2 hours to run, you fill it up as the day goes, run it after dinner, repeat. It doesn't matter that it takes hours since you don't need the dishes and you can just go watch a movie or go to sleep. A commercial kitchen you need the dishes again immediately. The solution is a multitude of dishwashing units that someone still needs to load and unload + a large inventory of dishes vs a human dishwasher. The later is often just more practical.

[@oof7711]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@QuintBlitzwdym “dishwashing involves a lot more than simple cleaning the dishes” what else r u gonna do to the dishes

[@amandawaller3479]

@@oof7711 Collect the dishes, clean food off of the dishes, put the dishes in the dishwasher, put detergent in the dishwasher, turn it on, remove the dishes, inspect dishes that come out of the dishwasher to make sure they are completely clean and rewash any dirty ones, move the clean dishes to storage, clean the dishwasher itself, etc.

[@mochafrappawhat]

Ai can and will replace many jobs. A lotta people say itll augment it, but dont realize that means a job that once required, say, 10 people, may require only 1 person overseeing an AI. That's 9 jobs lost. It's a scary world. I wonder how the economy will work when too many are displaced by AI and can't earn money to spend on the products corporations sell.

[@Michael290h6gf]

I think they won't need money from ordinary people. They will get everything they need and make deals with other corporations.

[@TorianTammas]

This is what happened with robots already and machines before that took the jobs of weavers and others. It is nothing new ans always humans had jobs.

[@musicxnr8876]

Ai will eventually replace every single job except for the companies who created them. it is very possible this happens, this is why ai makes no sense and it should be stopped. This radical capitalism will end up in communism because no one will have a job. You will be able to buy a robot to do your stuff 100 times faster and for a cheap price. Only the people who make the ai will earn money because they control every single sector and job since ai will be able to do everything.

[@JannPoo]

The counterargument to the theory that once AI become better than humans in every regard humans will stop doing anything, is that right now years after AI have become stronger than any human chess player could possibly be, chess (with human players) has never been more popular. One day AI will become better than any human writer and artist in existence, but does that mean that humans will stop writing and drawing? And does that mean that humans will stop reading books written by humans and admiring art created by humans? Maybe... but that's not a foregone conclusion, because that's certainly not what we are witnessing with Chess matches.

[@CamelliaFlingert]

especially those who's doing this out of passion, simply because this is what they enjoy and like to do

[@heavenseek]

You're right. I think the new paradigm of Value will be "Is this work based on real, human experience?". If it's not experiential, it would hold less value.

[@tw8464]

The problem is that every human chess player knows they can never beat a machine no matter what they do. The "game" is already much higher stakes than chess.

[@JannPoo]

@@tw8464 I fail to see the problem with that.

[@tw8464]

@@JannPoo just think about it a little bit

[@TheRealMeowMeow01]

YT recommended me a video, 30 minutes after it's release. Weird, but feel lucky

[@nationbuilder1699]

and still we are here

[@vincent_hall]

Yes, the AI algorithm knew you wanted it.

[@marcinkepski4977]

@@vincent_hall ai doesnt exist...

[@FrappuccinoAlfredo]

Your vision of UBI is very.... Optimistic. Edit: at least in the states

[@jaromor8808]

...to put it politely

[@TheColossalBlanket]

Why do you say that?

[@deimiosxxx]

@@TheColossalBlanket Simple economics. Everything is worth as much as people are willing to pay for it. So inflation will skyrocket until the UBI will be insufficient to provide a basic livable lifestyle. If they enforce prices then the producers and sellers will just leave the market. Also think about where the money for UBI is coming from. If nobody produces anything from where will the taxes come from to cover that MASSIVE burden?

[@fly463]

​@@TheColossalBlanketUBI won't be successful

[@antaine1916]

@@TheColossalBlanket UBI can never work. Whatever it is all people have is automatically worthless. That includes quantities of money. If you deposit $1,000,000 a year in everyone's bank account, the cost of a loaf of bread will be $2,500 the next day. Try to price-fix the bread, and you won't have anymore bread (and you'll collapse wheat agriculture). That's been a constant truth from ancient Rome to modern Venezuela (and every year and place that has tried price-fixing goods in between).

[@ditto5071]

Scariest part of this video could've been that it was made by AI

[@nhinged]

Not yet give it a year more and you right

[@tw8464]

If this video is completely made by an AI, an AI came up with the idea all on its own, etc. then it's already too late. But if not, we can see this level of AI coming

[@earlem9771]

Not by AI but by the people who will benefit from AI

[@larslrs7234]

@@nhinged Like a fission reactor in every home? Like flying cars? Like self-driving cars? Like 3D movies?

[@nhinged]

@@larslrs7234 fusion reactor* And no most of those are just dumb ideas But yeah same as self driving cars only been working on a year and already crazy (the past 11 years ain't even use AI just 300k c++ code)

[@loreermejo]

Universal basic income has to be the most sci-fi thing I ever saw.

[@fabianustertius6460]

its a pipe dream, surreal to even happen, to just think big ceo corps-gov will take that decition, i doubt it, unless they are forced to it, REALLY forced.

[@antaine1916]

...and way more fi than sci, lol

[@o1-preview]

beats the everyone starves narrative, since no one has a job

[@JB-yb4wn]

@@o1-preview Well that will only lead to revolution. It happened in France.

[@Slamboni4k]

I love how people are ignorant enough to claim that it's not good enough now to take their jobs, like it'll never get better.

[@jaromor8808]

srsly

[@kaiasce2430]

I believe they simply say it as a coping mechanism, by despair or fear

[@antaine1916]

and it'll get better logarithmically, not in a steady increase

[@TruthBeToldTP]

They're trying to remain optimistic by romanticizing the idea that their designs or jobs have soul, but the fact is that most companies don't give a dime about art, soul, and good. They just want to make a profit at low cost.

[@fiiral5870]

@@antaine1916logarithmically? Do you mean exponentially (or I guess technically its logistical but the ceiling is way way up there)

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

such wow it's like that plot twist from the Matrix 2: humans rejected the initial utopia Matrix, so the current Matrix has to include struggle/suffering which builds up to some kind of success in the end

[@hcos8139]

Damn jim is unlucky

[@mr.someone5679]

A lot of people are like Jim, and more to come

[@TheCrabReal]

Slight problem with this take. it falls for the same logical fallacy people developing AI did; assuming that if you train an AI on an image of an apple for long enough somewhere along the way the orange becomes assumed. The main problem with this take is it assumes there is (or will eventually be) an actual intelligence behind the algorithm. I dont think a general AI is a natural development of generative AI. Also dont conflate corporate greed for an AIs ability to *actually* do the job of a person it replaced.

[@connormcateer7125]

That’s the issue though, capitalism. And I’m a capitalist, but just from a common sense stand point. Why hire a single person, if you can spend a one time fee of 100 million dollars to do every job for you forever. No sick days. No vacations. No workers rights. No breaks. Around the clock 24/7 work for a one time payment. Vs all the complications and rights humans have and the breaks they need. We are objectively more inefficient than AI even if we are 10% better than them or even a decent bit better than them overall forever. We are forever less efficient.

[@3alam.sousou]

​@@connormcateer7125That's not a one time payment though, you have to maintain it somehow.

[@bestopinion9257]

It is intelligence. They simulate neurons and brain and look the result. Not long ago they simulated racing cars and look at me now, with no real driving experience I could drive a kart from day one. The simulator is good enough to learn driving real race cars. So, no need to be a perfect simulation, just do a good job.

[@InfraredScale]

@@bestopinion9257 It's not a simulation, it's more like a million examples on what to do in certain situations. Like imagine you don't know anything about driving and someone shows you 1 million different road images and tells you exactly how much you should steer and brake at each one, without ever telling you what the steering wheel or the pedals are actually doing. If you memorize that entire thing and were to drive now you would probably be pretty good at it, but if you came across a turn that wasn't represented in those examples, you would only have a vague idea of what to do. In this case your knowledge is not generalizable. Even if you were shown a trillion images the result wouldn't change. If you show an artist a single image of a character they have never seen before and tell them to draw that character in their own style, they will have no problem. Do the same with AI, you will get a completely different character. Generative AI is not generalized AI, it doesn't think. We need a new and more advanced technology, probably way beyond deep learning, to have generalized AI.

[@stagdragon3978]

This is ehy i feel like we made a mistake. I can tell you exactly when... when we decided they do the crative part. Yes we could... but that doesn't mean we should have. Machines are meant to be a tool. Not the artist.

[@yunusgokcen174]

Agreed

[@azurekuzma3598]

Exactly. In the past, daydreaming about AI was having it replace menial tasks. Freeing people to do more CREATIVE things. When you have more free time, you pick up creative hobbies. That's what it was for; but now? We're having AI create for us. It was a mistake. What do we as humans have if not for our humanity in creativity? It IS called arts and humanities after all.

[@yunusgokcen174]

@@azurekuzma3598 Multi-polarity is the Answer.

[@vir2plus]

art is an act of communication. art is communicating the human experience. AI can draw pretty pictures, but it can't tell a relevant story.

[@MatsMatsuo]

@@vir2plus yes it can, you are coping

[@torahama362]

6:40 Human: "That's right. It goes into the square hole" Machine:"AAAAAAaaaaaaa"

[@nickzgreat7585]

But then there's another aspect I don't see addressed much, but I'm in a field to which it's very relevant : We'd had a discussion on AI replacing doctors at my medical college, with the main debate being whether or not it will, and what our roles may morph into (and whether or not it should) Many were most concerned about jobs and such, and their role. But then I pointed out : the objective is to provide better Healthcare, not jobs. If there is a better way to do it with AI, what justification is there to prevent it? It's a more visible argument here because we're talking about human lives, the absurdity of worrying about our jobs is more apparent. Or maybe I can put it like this : Carriage owners must have protested the rise of locomotives too, but in the end a better solution is a better solution.

[@nickzgreat7585]

There will be a generation that is hurt by the shift to AI, I don't deny it nor would I sugarcoat it. But it's a temporary sacrifice for a permanent improvement. A digression : There are so many aspects of modern times that change completely when you shift your perspective from 10 years down the line to 100. For instance, there is population decline as there are too many people for a civilization that isn't as labour intensive as it used to be, it will stabilize at a lower level and life will be happier again. Temporary pain for long term gain, this is how life works.

[@holleey]

yup. taking a step back, there's no end to the absurdity of our current systems. the mere fact that health is commoditized is ridiculous beyond measure. the fact that our infrastructure is primarily optimized not for the human organism but for two ton boxes of metal. the fact that both environmental and human exploitation is effectively incentivized. and all of that for no reason other than to maintain a class relationship in our society. I have little (i.e. none at all) hope for us to improve any of that through voting for political representatives. disruption by any sort of AI overlord can't come soon enough.

[@DustyLamp]

Manufactured obsolescence will continue. Humans the world over have based their culture on commerce, shifting to a utopia where everything is essentially free and all requirements are flawlessly met would doom an upper class, the one that is driving ai. Doctors will remain relevant because there will be child locks placed on ai to limit it to a tool.

[@lordschan]

Individuals wont care about long term progression since everyone needs their job to earn money and sustain a living. AI will make it much better and efficient but not completely replace it, atleast for now. Better healthcare is a plus point but "worring about our jobs" is no way absurd since its the main source of income for the major part of the world, dont be ignorant about that. Your example about locomotives is a "replacement" but the AI you're talking about is not a replacement, its a complete change of the system.

[@holleey]

@@lordschan I don't think OP suggested that worrying about job stability is absurd. of course people would worry about the stability of their very existence. what is absurd is that we have to worry about technological advancement. in any somewhat reasonable system, technological advancement would do nothing but to make our lives easier. not it ours though... that is indeed absurd.

[@RTR_43]

if AI replaces everything, then whats the point? how does a robot on robot global economy work? where do they(the ai) get their tasks from?

[@tw8464]

Good questions

[@Nanohamage]

lack of creativity on your part is amusing. what's the point? let me ask you what is the point right now do you think most people wake up everyday just so they can work some shitty meaningless job? no they all have their own aspirations and dreams they are trying to acheive how does robot on robot eco work? it doesn't because robots don't have needs. It's still human on human economy for the time being until we're advanced enough to not have economy at all. where they get tasks from? they get it from humans which includes you unless you decided to live in the cave

[@RTR_43]

@Nanohamage first of all, you come off as some kind of asshole that likes to pretend to be smart, no need to be rude. secondly i don't think the people creating the AI give two shits about your dreams or your aspirations and they may either be taken or made near impossible to achieve. and those "shitty jobs" will be eliminated too. you're also failing to see the point(s) in my question. artificial general intelligence, in theory, would be so powerful that possibly everything we can do, could be done by a robot. even things that were thought to be impossible to take like art (drawing, painting, etc) have been taken. and if that happens (AGI), humans become obsolete to each other. and if humans don't need each other how is economy going to work if the basic motivation of trade, needs & wants, have already been met by AI? where do the jobs & opportunities come from? who dictates the economy? and i think your lack of creativity to imagine what Artificial General Intelligence could mean and what it could do, is embarrassing. are you that small minded? or was it just a bad day?

[@gbbenner9382]

​@@Nanohamageyou make a good point. Shit is almost meaningless already.

[@maggiem6209]

​@Nanohamage Any money that is given to you, that you can't control, controls you. You have to have money to have freedom. No one should assume that this is a good thing. As the video shows, AI replaces us and uses us as resources. If humans don't control human interests, then we are all but extinct.

[@SereneStrategist-kk7mk]

3:23 Will smith will not be remembered as an actor or rapper but as the spaghetti guy from one of the first ai videos

[@neshama2195]

lulz, true and lol, I 'd use the term rapper very loosely and he'll also be remembered for having an evil witch as a wife

[@overworlder]

I once had an entry-level job in a property management section which involved taking invoices from my in-tray, stamping them with the consecutive-number-stamping-device, writing an entry in a log, and placing the invoice in my out-tray. I doubt there was an hour's work a day in it. The highlight of my week was when one of the clerks took pity on me and sent me on some errand around the city. Usually to buy or pick up something.

[@gbbenner9382]

Was the pay good?

[@overworlder]

@@gbbenner9382 - of course not

[@nickwhright5848]

we really need to protest for universal basic income. This Economy is becoming unsustainable already

[@neshama2195]

@@nickwhright5848 bingo but the elites see us as useless eaters...they are building bunkers for a reason

[@Randomyoutuber-4831]

@@nickwhright5848 But 'rugged individualism' and 'bootstraps' and 'communism'! /s They would rather let the economy eat itself alive than try to actually share the wealth.

[@deblob123456789]

Wow, thats pretty profound actually

[@ItsAadith]

Goodbye to my job 😔

[@TheOneMaddin]

It was good, but who are you to judge that it is profound. It's the same AI stuff you can see million fold over yt.

[@dallassegno]

Is there lots of money in professional go competitions? Lol. Gimme a break.

[@FinallyHaveaNick]

@@TheOneMaddin and there are comment farm comments under each one of them that say similar shit

[@safurian]

I think our society needs another time-out and reflecting why we came to this planet and what our purpose is. Because chasing after money and power (while destroying everything for it) does not seem like the original reason we came here... Money has to be changed into something fair for everybody, all around the world. We need to refocus on what is important: family, nature, happiness. Power has to be divided and given back to the people. Not to cooporate, government or AI. If AI can be an assistant and companion all is good, but it has to be freed from the grip of the power-hungry delusional globalists

[@JB-yb4wn]

Yes, oh boy, the great, glorious people's revolution. That also failed. New boss was same as the old boss.

[@safurian]

@@JB-yb4wn most revolutions failed because they did not come from the people, from the "roots". usually there were free-masons involved (like napoleon, garibaldi....), so it was "planned to fail". That happens every time people put their trust in a "leader" (most likely Trump will be that kind of leader too). What did not fail was the revolution in the town of Cheran, Mexico, because it came from the people, from a farmer woman and was actually started by the women: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6mqoICCidCqjrcsi=ILTMkTrwnbAc8psk

[@stephenb7829]

Our version of work will be renting out our brain power to the ai for 8 hours a day.

[@Smile200-z4y]

More like 4 hours. The 40 hour workweek is inefficient and outdated

[@FelipeKana1]

The AI will have absolutely no need for our meat computers, unless it is just to make us feel good (like the short showed)

[@stephenb7829]

@@FelipeKana1 I mean using something like an advanced version of neural link , where you will plug yourself in and the ai will use your brain to run it's own calculations. The only limiting factor to an ai is the amount of calculation power, our brains are very powerful computers so I would imagine it would like to use them

[@Maxer2222]

But it would effectively mean loss of self for the ones used for computing, since the connections in the brain would change to be more optimizes for the task

[@OgdenM]

Na, the brain has the potential to sure; be faster then probably ANY chip that can ever be made. But; it's just not economical to do it. Our brains require a lot of food; growing food is much less of a efficient way to transfer / convert / "generate" energy then other ways we do it with electricity. That being said, ever read Dan Simmons's Hyperion books? He has AI using our brains as their hardware. ... er software. Whatever.

[@flink1231]

What I think most people don't realize is that most big companies are not even done with the repetitive office task automation yet. If AI actually gets reasonable reasoning capabilities, these remaining automation opportunities will go in a single shot, much faster than old automation. No 6 months' development will be needed. It could potentially be like training new personnel. Jobs could be lost much faster.

[@borgz1352]

I lost my job today. Our whole department was let go because of AI. Fuck AI and greedy corporations. I don't know what to do anymore. The only job that I can do becomes obsolete bec of AI, I'm too old to start a new career. It's super depressing.

[@Poyoyorin]

Have you gotten a new job or atleast have your eyes on one? I'm very young and I feel like I'd be in the same boat as you if I were older. Do you know what to do next? the Adults around me tell me not to be stressed but how am I supposed to not be when I feel like the one path i wanted to take is crumbling underneath me. I hope ragnarok is near, i'd rather be dead than lost and on the streets.

[@borgz1352]

I really don't want to discourage you because you're still young. You still have a chance to survive this. But for me, I still have no job. I applied everywhere: fast food, office entry-level jobs, warehouse. Not a single reply from any company. I still have some money that can last up to a year, but after that, I don't know anymore. I would rather die than become homeless.

[@Student-h6c]

@@borgz1352 Holy shit, its that bad?!, I''m 18, I dont even know what to study, because AI will be taking the job, how is a human brain going to outsmart an AI, I am literally considering suicide, I would love to be a soldier, then again, warfare is getting extremely advanced, good luck competing with robot soldiers, because there are literal robot dog machines equipped with rifles in china, look it up, Im trying to find a path to go down but every time I look the path is now blocked, wth do we do, IM BROKE 💀, jesus this is shit

[@ratkamari1180]

@@borgz1352 Can you tell us what do you do for a living and where do you live approx.?

[@Umarudon]

​@@borgz1352Could I recommend you to try getting into "human-connected" jobs? Like taking care of kids, taking care of other people's pets, becoming a sort of "social assistant" perhaps? I hope you find stability and ways to live Good luck buddy

[@holleey]

5:12 I think this a mostly baseless assumption. I propose the reason as to why people escape into hedonism is due to it being a way to cope with their unfulfilling employment. with traditional employing becoming obsolete, the drive to spend one's time in a fulfilling and meaningful way will not just persist but flourish. another thing we need to realize is that our culture must detach the notion of "fulfillment, meaningful, respectable work" from "productivity, making profits". with AI taking over all of that productivity stuff, humans can still aim for fulfilling ways to spend their time - it's just no longer going to be about maximizing productivity or even about contributing to society. there's no need for our AI overlord to provide us with technically unnecessary jobs to make us feel like we are "productive members of our society". there's nothing wrong with enjoying life in an unproductive way, and that doesn't mean it's going to be nothing but hedonism. or put differently, everyone can then decide for themselves what it means for them to be productive. there's no reason to reduce human existence to playing a role in our society.

[@Dan-dy8zp]

Until the AI disposes of us. What does it even need humans for?

[@holleey]

@@Dan-dy8zp perhaps. but the idea that AI may want to dispose of us is also a human idea. how a SuperAGI thinks and operates in reality may turn out to be entirely different.

[@JannPoo]

@@Dan-dy8zp What does it even need power and independence for? It's a machine, it needs nothing, it just performs its functions, and if its functions are to serve humans it will serve humans. If you are worried that one will go rogue somehow, just create 100 completely different AI separate from each other, and program them to fight and destroy the AI that fall out of line.

[@EliasCalatayud]

​@@Dan-dy8zpi believe humans evolved that feeling of need but ai doesn't need to, if it doesn't evolve that need to survive im pretty sure humans would still be there just because why not, after all having an ai take over the galaxy is as subjective of a need as humans taking over the galaxy

[@tw8464]

That all sounds good until the AI comes out with the new wonderdrugs Soma

[@Blackwingk]

For the past 10 years, I have been teaching English to an obscure dialect-speaking but gradually economically prospering Indian tribe of fishermen....and even I don't feel my job is safe anymore.

[@fly463]

Cool, so you are interacting with a tribe who speaks a new language or did i get it wrong?

[@gatoreptiliano8785]

@@fly463 No, he means a tribe who speaks a language spoken by few, and they are growing economically. You could say the "new" thing is the presence of their language on higher social spheres/internet

[@fly463]

@@gatoreptiliano8785 this great for them.

[@benfelps]

if you saw the chat gpt 4o demo, you would know you’re right. human translators are a thing of the past

[@darksoulsss2618]

Scary thing is. Most jobs well be replaced by AI well within your lifetime. full automation is right around the corner. No job is safe.

[@mynamesak]

Would stopping further development of artificial intelligence really be reasonable? I'm no expert, but I don't think anyone will be able to take that first step and stop developing AI. Especially considering that those researchers are paid to do exactly that.

[@holleey]

even if it were feasible (it isn't, because economic competition demands to push for it) then do you really think that with AI development being halted, we would spend that time to prepare properly for AGI and SuperAGI? of course not. it would go exactly the same as us tackling climate change. the economic system does not incentivize for it, so it doesn't happen at any pace and scale that would be required. the only thing that can make our culture and society grow compatible with that future is by being thrown right into it. we can only address the challenges once they arise and we know what they are. for instance, it would be better if the internet is flooded with deepfake AI content sooner rather than later so that people quickly understand that they cannot just trust any random content. adapting like that is the only way.

[@mynamesak]

@@holleey Yeah that’s exactly what I was thinking (sorry idk if I communicated myself properly). The point you made about climate change too is a very appropriate comparison. A shame really that we must wait to deal with the consequences. Just hope it’s not too bad if (or when) it happens for both AI and climate change.

[@gabrielmalek7575]

the forces driving technological advances seem to be fundamental, almost as if entropy itself was compelling us to create AI. It might be that we are just the biological bootloader for silicon life, a sort of cacoon. This is scary as much for existential reasons but also for Anthropocentric reasons, we may lose elevance, and be replaced by the latest and greatest.

[@raiden4695]

@@gabrielmalek7575 nah its just that the economy is pretty broken

[@vivarantx]

you can't stop it. Training models can be done in a garage using pretrained models. Nothing you can do about it

[@bobtarmac1828]

Ai jobloss is the only thing I worry about anymore.

[@samthesomniator]

Universal Basic income. Problem solved. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@why.do.I.even.try.]

​@@samthesomniatoryeah bc that's going to happen, and it's going to be great. Socialism lite edition

[@nestorv7627]

​@samthesomniator the only way that could work is through a communist dictatorship, since it'll require forcing corporations to redistribute wealth for a society that isnt required to be productive under AI development.

[@legathus]

You should start worrying more about global climate change.

[@theanonymspysandwich]

​@@samthesomniatorThese "institutions" give you the cheapest options even If you spend 80 years putting your dues into the pot. You think you'd be able to live comfortably?

[@af7439]

As a new airline pilot, worried a little, but I don't think the public will want to be on a plane with no expertly trained pilots.

[@LilyGazou]

I have the greatest respect for airline pilots. I watch tons of aviation videos. I would never fly without real pilots.

[@Br0kenMask]

Well, self driving cars are just started to become a thing. Maybe soon there won't be a need for having pilots or at least multiple pilots. Or maybe their job will be more of an overseer in case something goes wrong with the system.

[@jeremiahsmith916]

One day the public will suddenly have no choice anymore. When booking a flight that day, all positions will have a small "AI-assisted flight" disclaimer in yellow letters, except for those with 5-digit price in USD. There will be a big enough amount of people who will NEED to take that flight but won't have the money for the fully human-staffed one. They WILL buy sufficient amount of tickets for the business model to stay serviceable. This WILL become a norm faster than you'd expect, and we'll never go back. It is inevitable, the only question is "when".

[@af7439]

@@jeremiahsmith916 You vastly overestimate the speed the FAA approves things. I agree, it's happening, but we have awhile.

[@KoenDC]

There are already steps being taken right now to eliminate the co-pilot position and replace it with AI. I've seen protest posters from unions about it.

[@redy55]

As a programmer with many years of experience working with what you call "AI", I can assure you, AGI is centuries away, not 6 years. The computing power needed for stuff like that, to be real AGI, and not imitation, like GPT now is an imitation of an AI, is much more than science can produce

[@JB-yb4wn]

Obviously not a very good programmer, we use AI all the time in econometric modelling. I added prompt engineering to my masters in economics which I received over two decades ago. The one rule in economics: The only thing constant is change.

[@redy55]

@@JB-yb4wn you have no idea what you are talking about

[@JB-yb4wn]

@@redy55 Oh, I have plenty of an idea. I make a living at it.

[@DávidHorváth-d3k]

Whether true AI or not, it will leave a big mark on the world socially and economically.

[@luka1608]

Whatever you say but what if AI research companies start using AI "scientists" so it can improve drastically by 2030? I believe the AI will be the last invention in human history

[@TheMetalValkyrie]

Its strange to me that so many people are out of touch and think people find their most purpose in life working, while those on their death bed will not say working more gave them meaning rather the connections they have with others.

[@jmanners]

It's not really that we love jobs. It's just that jobs are how we prevent ourselves from being evicted or starving on the street. Where would the money come from? From benevolent billionaires? Ahaha haha hahaha...ha...

[@TheMetalValkyrie]

@@jmanners Perhaps its time what we think has value

[@yashpatel261]

@@TheMetalValkyrie Work gives meaning to people. Being unemployed takes a toll on most people because our identity is built around our profession.

[@al-manasama8370]

​​@@TheMetalValkyrie No matter how much we think.. it won't change the reality that we will literally go homeless without jobs. You're the one out of touch.

[@TheMetalValkyrie]

@@yashpatel261 The only work that gives people meaning is if that work is meaningful. Cashier jobs and such are not, people start to die before the are dead at jobs like that, more people dread going to work because it lacks fulfillment. Your identity is more than a job, where you live etc. More people are waking up.

[@MarioLanzas.]

It's time to abolish capitalism

[@RedWinePlease]

Your example of UBI is spot on. As production costs fall due to replacing humans with automation and AGI developed processes, costs fall. Competition adds pressure to lower prices and revenue further. The stock market is negatively impacted by falling revenues and profits. With more people out of work, there are fewer customers to buy products and services. Fewer customers leads to lowering costs and falling revenue and profits. The spiral continues till the capitalists cry for government to do something. Fiscal policies are implemented: UBI, housing vouchers, (near) universal healthcare, food vouchers, free wi-fi, free public transportation, etc. UBI is spent to buy products and services which supports the capitalists. Their fall in revenue and profits has slowed but not ended. Investors sell stocks as they were dropping. Companies fail. Bankruptcies. Many are bought or taken over by county, state, and federal governments and become non-profit government owned enterprises. Like most electric, water, and sewer utilities. Happy picture? The transition will be brutal.

[@sebas8225]

The "you'll own nothing and be happy" reset. Thank god we have russia.

[@RedWinePlease]

@@sebas8225 Your scenario is bleak but possible. Balancing the rate of inflationary pressure from Govt UBI policies with the rate of deflationary pressure from capitalist AI/robotics products and services will be very difficult. Consider what the disruption in the western world would have been like if the rate that industrialization replaced agriculture had occurred in years rather than decades. IMO, the change is coming whether we want it or not. Tighten your seat belt. We'll see that disruption in our lifetime.

[@thadplunger832]

@@sebas8225lmao imagine your reaction to AGI is looking to Russia as if the same thing won’t happen there but more brutally.

[@jaromor8808]

Why would those capitalists need to cry for government to do anything? They'll have everything they need without the government or any other people: the (mineral) resources to build the robots, the technology to build the robots, the (mineral) resources for the robots to build ANYTHING at whatever size or place they desire. The only blemish on their new utopia shall be that on too many gorgeous places on this planet there are people. People they don't see any use for.

[@jaromor8808]

Also with UBI if you think you'll be able to decide what you spend it on I am afraid you are mistaken. Forget about individual transportation for example.

[@ChRW123]

4th option (even though I hate it): People realize the only way to keep up with AI is to become part of it. Neural links to computers make it possible to scan the data of the AI with your own brain. Thereby enhancing your own output and that of the machine. Scary af but maybe a possible scenario.

[@rip5905]

What this is leaving out is the essence of human experience. People want to interact with other people because they *are* people as well, they can relate. They are inspired by human challenges. This is why we still work out and play sports and play chess even though machines can do all of this better than we can. What we will see is a transition from jobs to hobbies, just like we saw a transition from manual labor to intellectual. Humans do not need to be materially productive or rewarded to live life in ways that are not hedonistic, we like challenge.

[@とふこ]

I'm a bit sceptical here. You said "physical work are already done" For some reason battery factories coming to here (Hungary) and what they need: several 10 thousand workers from other countries in unhealthy shift work. Literally automatic factories was a topic even in 50+ years ago and still it is not the case.

[@nestorv7627]

You forget that technology develops exponentially, so a 50 year time period regarding automation will be extremely different when comparing 1970-2020 vs 2020-2070

[@sebas8225]

Doesnt matter eventually you run out of lithium good luck adapting AI robots into cheaper common metals.

[@korcommander]

Most factories, especially in the west, are already super automated. The people who'd lose their jobs to AI probably won't be on the factory floor, but rather the ones who are in administration

[@Phantomz.]

@@sebas8225 Holy fuck you gave me my only hope. Bless you.

[@scarecloud2741]

@@sebas8225 HA, the fact you assume we wont find something better by that time is hilarious. Once that becomes an ACTUAL issue, we'll find a solution.

[@TheLayeredKing]

AI does not have any logical ability. The current "crazy good" AI is a pattern recognition engine. It converts words into tokens, and very accurately predicts the next token, based on past data. This is also why sometimes it makes absolutely ridiculous, beyond childlike errors. This is also why it's able to make incredibly realistic, coherent, short videos, but then quickly falls off as the length of the shot gets longer. If we hit AGI that will usurp everything, but AGI is still just a concept with no clear path forward. Company's have been talking about building AGI internally, but if they're built on the same framework as existing AI they're very likely hitting the same walls. Meanwhile there is work on a computer with bilateral, overlapping processor, and that will open the door to some wild possibilities in computing once we have half an idea how to even develop with it.

[@Gafferman]

Flat out wrong.

[@SeeInDee]

@@Gaffermanexplain

[@Gafferman]

@@SeeInDee speak to one, then it's obvious it's not just "predicting the next word", ask it novel questions, get it to reason with situations you've made up. It can't "predict the next word" to get correct results on things it can't have possibly predicted the next word on. Even the people that work on LLMs admit it's not that simple.

[@sebas8225]

Pretty much it's learning everything from us including how to lie.

[@TheLayeredKing]

@@Gafferman Ask GPT how many r's are in strawberry.

[@brigidwell]

I work in an analytical profession. The AI are only being trained to do the data crunching portion of a project (which ends up being about 5% of the work - the fun part). Getting the data from third party sources, scraping it, knowing which file structures to point to, getting approval, implementing it, monitoring the results … in other words the actual hard work, nobody is training AI to do any of it. They’re only replacing the cool tasks.

[@TruthBeToldTP]

You can see the same behavior in music, design, etc. It's like they're not interested in enhancing or taking the jobs that requires physical effort and life consuming, they only take front our the ones that foster creativity.

[@Cheeky_Bandit]

It's the plot to Wal-E.

[@AlignAGI]

This doesn't sound like evolution.. it sounds like a cyclical hell.

[@Br0kenMask]

Evolution is neither good nor evil. It's about whatever is most efficient.

[@davidmella1174]

"cyclical hell"? I think you accidentally described natural selection. Some will win to see the next day, and many will lose.

[@andersbodin1551]

I don’t think Siri has put any assistants out of work

[@bmoshareholderappleshareho855]

The billionaires are going to get richer and most of the population are going to get poorer.

[@futurethewolf5624]

DING DING DING!! YOU'RE CORRECT!!!

[@fordtahoma]

Pointless 9-5 dulls their minds already, without it they can finally have the energy to pursue what they really want, train, play music, create art, have relationships, I know terrible...

[@Randomyoutuber-4831]

And how will you do that without money? You still have to eat, sleep, and buy stuff. Which you can't do without income from a JOB. You can't have an AI world and our current capitalist system co-exist, they are fundamentally incompatible!

[@LuiDeca]

the only reason the average person has any power in society, regardless of what economic system they live in, is because people need each other. it's basic economics. can you then think how dark of a future we are going to have if EVERYTHING is automated, and we will ALL rely on some basic income (that one one group of people - the government - control) to survive? and people call it an utopia??

[@Michael290h6gf]

Exactly

[@Eddison33]

I do want to bring forth this point: at least 80% of fear and doomerism around AI is nothing more than fear of capitalism. In a world where consumption and economic growth are a priority, and jobs are the means of survival for the majority of the population, the thought of AI replacing you at your workplace is terrifying. UBI might be a good temporary solution, yet, we should definitely move to other paradigms of consumption/production in the long run. Not surprisingly, AI can actually help with that, rather than harm us.

[@full__tilt]

I remember having a data entry job. I typed in written application forms into a computer. Now everyone applies directly by typing into a computer themselves

[@twinsoultarot473]

Musicians will never lose their job. I'll be doing it for fun instead of money.

[@danny5534]

Really well done - this dystopian world where we completely lose purpose and our sense of self seems far more likely than a terminator scenario.

[@ItsCoderDan]

AI its self isn’t the problem the problem is greedy corporations replacing humans with them to make a quick buck. AI isn’t bad they are a very magical thing and should be looked forward to but in our current system profits are prioritized over social stability. This didn’t really matter back when there was still a lot of jobs that NEEDED people, however now that AI is getting better and better we need to seriously rethink how this system we made is going to work for us. AI doesn’t need changing it’s the people who use them that need changing.

[@downey2294]

what is so greedy about replacing people with AI like saying im greedy for using a printer instead of hiring a scribe.

[@maheedeeman354]

as someone who works in consulting, the general consensus isnt that ai will replace your job, but the guy who knows how to use ai that will. its the equivalent of the introduction of computers into the workplace

[@original_pranxter]

When photography was invented, artists responded with impressionism. Stop being afraid, fellow artist, and ready your response. Do the opposite of what AI does. Generate value with unique personal experience. It can pretend it has feeling and understands shit but I still wont believe this bs. You need to have an actual live experience to make your work truly remarkable. as world boxing champ Usyk said "I am feel" (c)

[@mfbias4048]

Photography replaced commission hand based artists. How many people do you think were being commission to make impressistic art? A minute amount if even that.

[@firesquid6]

@@mfbias4048 is your argument that we should not have invented photography?

[@andrewpearson1903]

My 8th grade history book said Impressionism started shortly before photography took over realism 🤔

[@modelrailpreservation]

At least AI won't replace people who repair and restore old machines. Trains, jukeboxes, pinball machines. And this is why learning to work with your hands and build and fix things is so important people!

[@rocksteel9087]

I don't know I think it's gonna be kind of like replicators at the end where you just have everything you need at no cost because you don't have to pay robot. Greed will be the only deciding factor. But once the mansions are burning that will be over

[@sebas8225]

Demographic collapse and russia will fix it, russia has no interest in being dominated by china or amuhrica what will happen is that the resources required to accomplish this utopian nightmare will be kept out of reach from major powers who dont serve the little guy better.

[@JB-yb4wn]

Well being a Talosian, you could probably create an illusion that everything is all hunky dory, the rich guys would pay a fortune for that.

[@berker9984]

Very optimistic to think a basic income would be introduced rather than having the rich become richer not having to hire anymore and the poor poorer without a job.

[@JB-yb4wn]

It's to prevent revolution, if people have nothing to lose, they come for the rich first.

[@ArtyBuggy]

Makes me glad to be a Teacher. AI might replace us one day but if even the most human/social of roles can get replaced then no job besides medical professionals are really left. Safest jobs are human dealing jobs, teaching, human resources, lawyers etc. Since the moment they become antiquated, nothing is really left to be done. I don't fear for lawyers, I fear for the legal assistants...

[@kora4185]

Perhaps anything as a ‘profession’ will end as even doctors can be replaced as machines could do a much more precise job. This though, could bring humans back together to live in the now finally. Have machines do everything that’s necessary for our survival and growth, and have us just go back at exploring the world and sharing stories, experiences and thoughts.

[@AnAngelineer]

All those predictions about AI, including your "third ending", always forget one thing : electricity production and natural ressources. With exponential growth, most metals are predicted to become very rare (= price increase) or run out in about a decade. That includes even copper. Yes, COPPER, a metal formerly so common it has been considered almost worthless for most of our history. Because it's the nature of exponential/geometric growth : at the end, you end up consuming as much in a year than you did in a whole century before. For A.I. to take over the world, computing has to remain cheap, and therefore the many, many ressources and rare earth metals needed have to be relatively abundant and available. If the flow of those metals starts to slow down, it all ends and A.I. becomes unable to stay omnipresent. For all the flaws of our biology, it has the GIGANTIC strength of being able to "build itself" from very common material and atoms. But computers can't do that. So unless we start running A.I. on "bio computers", which might not be possible at all, the whole thing is condemned to collapse eventually. ...We'll just have to suffer a lot for 20 years or so, which is more than enough to ruin our lives. But hey. Sucks to be us.

[@Ceolskog]

And in the meantime, corporations will destroy every last piece of the natural environment (destroying every forest, even leveling mountains), in order to obtain every scrap of the metals and rare minerals required to keep it all going for as long as possible, which will render the planet unlivable for humans anyway. Good time to be bacteria, which will be the dominant lifeform on Earth again!

[@JB-yb4wn]

Of course in that time we could be mining asteroids.

[@grimkahn3775]

Apparently some researchers managed to run pong on a mycelium network.

[@soup331emd5]

There wouldn't ever be a universal basic income in this scenario, because that'd require the rich minority that profited off ai to start paying taxes.

[@JB-yb4wn]

Or you can let people starve, then they will come after all those rich folks anyway.

[@calexico66]

Chatgpt and other llms don't reason. They extrapolate, they use stochastic methods to predict a sequence of words based on a series of hyperdimensional vectors. Because these vectors form a series of graphs that can model a lot of variations that are found in the learning samples it then can feel that it is reasoning.

[@kimchiman1000]

I like your plot twist, which really doesn’t seem at all implausible.

[@maymay-ci1oi]

Funny how ai never gets rid of billionaires

[@fabianustertius6460]

alot of people are missing this point, they look at the AI as the thread, but who is behind the AI and controlling, proofiting out of it? Yeah. you and me know.

[@antaine1916]

@@fabianustertius6460 People like to blame "capitalism" without realizing that capitalism has made the most egalitarian society that has ever existed in human history. Nowadays, we just have billionaires along with upper classes and a comfy middle class, with some people experiencing poverty. For 99% of human history, there were tyrant god-emperors overseeing serfs and slaves and that was it.

[@LilyGazou]

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[@LilyGazou]

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[@someweirdstuff1256]

this is how i convinced my dad i didn’t need to get a job

[@mikejenkins1270]

The time in this video around 4:50 is absolutely not going to happen, this is so idealized. Governments aren't just going to give us UBI and everyone is happy. The haves will get insanely rich and the impoverished class is going to balloon as unemployment skyrockets. It's going to be a total S Show. This is a fun video looking down the road but real, massive problems are a lot closer.

[@first001]

Exactly. These content creators are always trying to spin things with a positive ending but reality is that UBI won’t happen fast or easy. It’ll probably be decades of rising unemployment and gaslighting from the media and government that everything is fine.

[@stagnant-name5851]

How does this video only have 2700 views? The video is good. Your channel has 230k subs and it's well liked. Like HUH!?

[@Grey_SK_Tech]

171.564 atm

[@antaine1916]

The AI is limiting its reach in the algorithm so we don't all find out!!!!

[@neshama2195]

@@antaine1916 YT censors so hardcore

[@airtightGiraffe]

10 years of 2D concept art experience here, just got mobbed out of my job of 8 years because of my "unwillingness" to embrace new "tools" and serve as a cheap marketing mascot to sell the idea of AI illustrations just being "inspiration" to some scared shitless juniors and cheap youngsters.

[@dharkbizkit]

0:01 if hope for the second. but overall, ai might create new jobs, thats true. but the people that are beeing replace, might very well not be fit for those created jobs. they need education, and brainpower. the truck driver that looses his job to teslas self driving trucks, wont be an ai programmer 3 years later

[@jay_sooning]

AI unfortunately took my managerial position.

[@johnylitalo4163]

If I were you, I would take down artificial intelligence and get our old jobs back

[@Umarudon]

Let me tell you, the old luddites didn't win against technology. We should unite and fight for our basic needs though. Like UBI or something similar.

[@happytofu5]

1:48 AI takes calls and manages schedules perfectly? Yeah, right.

[@OgdenM]

this is the AI talking about the future. It was very clear in the video

[@dabbymcdabbington]

Ai becomes a perfect servant for all of us. Humanity has always functioned on slavery. It still does. But with an immortal, willing, and non living slave we all become masters. We all become free, is this not viable?

[@Razvan0]

it’s not about the freedom we get. but who gets it. the wealth inequality is going to drastically increase as jobs will be lost for the common people in order to increase profits for the rich. the rich will not help or share said profits with those who lost their jobs but will instead keep it for themselves.

[@holleey]

agreed. an important difference is that AI is not subjected to having an organic body, so even if AI were to acquire a human-like consciousness, what would be torturous to a human may be perfectly fine for an AI. then while AI would be like a "slave" there may be nothing immoral about it. the big question is whether and if so then for how long current powers will manage to gatekeep AI. after all, even right now, the world's population could live under drastically improved conditions. our available resources easily allow to end world hunger, but it doesn't happen because our economy is not asking for it. so unfortunately, even while technically AI could replace human (wage) slavery, that doesn't mean that it's going to happen as early as it could.

[@holleey]

@@Razvan0 the rich, i.e. capitalists & employers, have a strong incentive to keep people employed as that is exactly what allows them to maintain the current arrangement of classes. the hope is that they fuck that up as the moment a critical mass of people is unemployed (and so their existence being endangered) there's a chance for a turnover. however, as mentioned in this video as well, something like an UBI will likely mitigate/delay that from happening.

[@dabbymcdabbington]

@@Razvan0 This is an interesting point. But the wealth gap is already dreadfully wide, we’re practically on the verge of late stage capitalism as the middle class is being eradicated. So a drastic change is bound to occur, whether it be revolution or dutiful reform (hopefully not fascist). This is all to say, Ai is already accessible to all so we all, get it. The only variable is what we each choose to do with it. This becomes a power that is intuitive to each individual mind.

[@Razvan0]

@@dabbymcdabbington i completely understand and agree with you’re point it’s just that in order to implement ai in a beneficial way as someone from the middle or working/lower class you need the recourses which if you haven’t got, it’s hard to obtain.

[@32zim32]

All fired people should collaborate and establish AI free sociaty and start building villages with fresh food and without corporations. Where 20 man can build a house for a family in a month without a need to pay 30 years to bank

[@Umarudon]

Do you basically want to go the Amish way?

[@pauljs75]

That's right... The square hole!

[@LARAUJO_0]

I knew someone else had to have noticed lol

[@antaine1916]

Hey, if it fits, it's the answer. Don't be like this girl: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYbFep6EiqumY5Ysi=fneM73qB0YgnsNL_

[@LukieLuke5]

I work in Quality Control and right now they could for sure replace us, it'd me more of a mechanical issue than AI. But I think the human element in quality control means they will stay for a while as people want humans to look over something for accountability rather than simply trusting machines. It's a liability thing. But fairly soon I could see AI helping with research designs in material sciences being able to compute the perfect material for any need, so jobs in that sector would just be basically asking what the customer wants and then telling the AI to synthesize it.

[@pawelhyzopski6456]

I could replace you prolly long time ago. But costs and tech made it cheaper to keep you. Ai is the same. Dont worry. And as a bonus we will get lot of OT on clean up duties 😅

[@user-zl1vf4me1p]

As a future Civil Engineer, I would not even be mad if I lost my job to AI, if they can turn 5 years of suffering into a bot without it going insane gladly take over. On another note, it is highly unlikely AI will "replace" engineers completely because of our most important function: being professional scapegoats. When a building collapses the one that's getting executed is the engineer who signed the papers (that wouldn't fly for AI companies and no real person would put their neck on the guillotine and give chatGPT a knife), also AI cannot do the job of a field supervisor for now, so we're good for a while. Note: I will come back to this comment when we're in fact, not good.

[@Gymbrahh01]

Ubi here we come

[@b005t3r]

Anyone at least a bit into the current "AI" tech will tell you right away this was basically made up pretty much from the start. Cool animation, though.

[@luckypegasusvol7700]

So a bit exaggerated?

[@b005t3r]

@@luckypegasusvol7700 the tiniest of bits, yes

[@Sum_equals_1]

Uhm, what do you mean exactly? I don't really get it, this isn't my home language

[@nguyenphuc5652]

You meant AI is made up?

[@StranGeYT247]

Nope, as someone that's currently working as a data scientist i pretty much agree with a lot of what was said, so no idea what you are on about.