OpenAI CEO on Artificial Intelligence Changing Society

Taken from JRE #2044 w/Sam Altman:
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[@davidkey4272]

I don't trust this guy.

[@beeennn12345]

Don't trust you.

[@leanhoven]

Too bad

[@carlitocash]

don't trust this guy. I

[@StjepanKralj]

Why? Is he Jewish?

[@morgan3896]

how come? because he fucked his own sister when he was 12?

[@frenchyroastify]

What I've learnt in my 5 decades is that we are terrible at predicting the future because a new change that we cannot imagine causes a major paradigm shift.

[@Havingfun0]

When I told people that some day you will be able to pass notes to people without the note they laughed at me. Boom texting. When I told peopl that video chat will be on our phones and it will be the most efficient way hold business meetings. They laughed at me said it would be too cost per user. Boom FaceTime.

[@CatalinDobreArtist]

I agree and I think we will never know the future at all! It's amazing how after over 2000 years we still linger to that feeling of knowing... when the answer has been given to us since the beginning.

[@cconnon1912]

AI is a hot topic for now. It has been around and will be around for a long time. Just like Metaverse, AR/VR, drones delivering packages, flying cars, jet packs, etc.

[@SnoopyReads]

​@@cconnon1912the metaverse is just a fabrication, those other things actually exist

[@jwalker6260]

I feel the same way. People freaked out when supermarkets became a thing too.“What about all those jobs?”

[@nicky4114]

He literally said that jobs will be eliminated and the rich will get richer. Then he said that we will all get government hand outs of 1/8 billion per person. He perfectly described a dystopian dictatorship. He literally just described how his company will destroy our world

[@kristopherryanwatson]

once AI is further developed, and adapts to become smarter than Humans (which is within the next 5-6 years), government contracts will start coming in for National Defense implementations in the form of partnerships for Companies like OpenAI, and we'll all hav to accept it as the perceived safeguard against international threats and other Nations like Russia and China doing the exact same thing. Hmm...where does this sound familiar ?? We are living in the age where Companies like OpenAI will soon become like Skynet.

[@goodboy1269]

Basically

[@sandhuaditya4855]

@@kristopherryanwatson unavoidable at this point

[@manvendrapratapsingh1920]

​@@sandhuaditya4855everything is avoidable if people realise and stand up together

[@manvendrapratapsingh1920]

​@@sandhuaditya4855We declaring that it's hopeless, will only embolden the billionaire sociopaths, like what how oil/fossil fuel industry benefits when people feel it's hopeless to fight for climate change.

[@Perqd]

One thing I wanted to know. It shook me first to see that AI does GREAT Artworks, even now almost replacing alot of designers. Then I saw that even music production will be replaced. Then I asked myself: Isn't that a bad thing? Like the feeling of making a drawing thats really great over hours and days, it was rare and fullfilling. Creating music and vibing to it all done by an AI in seconds with unlimited results that alot of them are really good even now. Thats depressing to me. I mean what do we live for? To relax and not do any work? To have everything we want at the touch of a button? Even with tech now we see that people notice that it doesn't really make life better. Easier, faster doesn't equal more fun or better. I think the mindset we have is going in a direction we cannot stop. Don't get me wrong I'm a developer/artist myself and these things ARE exciting but also if they will replace everything we do. Whats the point of living? Humans are designed to do things, not to have fun all the time, get drunk or relax. That sounds good in theory but is actual hell. What do we talk about with people then? There is only so much to explore in the world. The real things to explore are internal, are creative and deep. EDIT: I want to add: Even the worst case I describe here will be better than living in some time of our human history. Being tortured or living through illness is of course a lot worse. But I think we should always aim to have a better future for our children and I see a potential that it wont be as we imagine it to be. And to be honest, I dont think we have a choice anyways because its not a democratic choice we have to develop these AIs, because if WE don't do it, actors like the CCP will do it to ensure their weird reality. And even without china, its just like the atom bomb, we will discover it and use it. Bad or good will both be present and we need to be careful which I'm REALLY afraid we are not. Or does any social network face consequences for the mental issues they created? Just think about it and I'm open for anyone to discuss this topic. I love the comments that tell their opinion of the future :) Bladerunner is not so wrong after all... (not an English native speaker, please excuse my mistakes)

[@WikiPeoples]

Well said!

[@ininitespace1872]

you can still do what you want, you just might not get paid for it or you could integrate it with your work

[@BarrettPlumbing]

It’s like getting Max stats on a video game. Although fun at first, it’s depressing knowing you have no need to improve or get better

[@mauriciojcYT]

I think thats right, and biollogycally damaging to the human being (we are not designed/prepared for that much entertainment and flood of comfort). But when I see our internal psychology, I see that there's incredible amount of work that people must do. Maybe we can conquer the space with tech or cure cancer, but we are really infants in understanding our own minds. Perception, conciousness, emotion, the origin of thought, the sense of self or no-self, we almost know nothing. That, I would bet, is the hard work we have ahead and moreover i'd say, without that work, we will perish (as you say in the feelings of meaningless).

[@Douglas_Gillette]

I would rather live my life with the challenge of fighting boredom than by the sweat of my brow. I’m happy that in the future, there may be no need to work most of the day.

[@DigitalDissident]

Just say NO to digital ID, social credit system, digital currency, police state, vaccine passport, planned obsolescence, & WEF tyranny.

[@inquisitorfederov5470]

Putin just threatened Schwab. Crazy times!!

[@Cub__]

​@@inquisitorfederov5470really? Some good news.

[@greasybumpkin1661]

​@@inquisitorfederov5470tell us more, weird considering how Putin is a "young" WEF member or was.

[@christophernaggs4018]

​@greasybumpkin1661 it's suspicious

[@justinbauer175]

I'm ready for ai to take over. Working sucks. Well all have ubi. Progress is good. If we had social credit that would probably help me so much. I made the conscious decision to stop littering and shit 20 years ago. I liked masks for several reasons. I liked the anonymity. I don't enjoy being in crowds and the masks is just a little comfort shield. And plus if you get the n95 mask it filters all the dust and other stuff besides viruses. You're an idiot and you're holding human civilization back. There are always reasons to be kind of skeptical of scientist. But real science has self regulation. If one person makes a discovery then anyone else can verify the discovery themselves. If it's wrong it comes out eventually. You know eventually we will have to leave the planet if we want to survive as a species. Intelligence is cool. It's amazing to think of what could happen if people live and think properly. We need to preserve and grow our knowledge and pass it down through the generations just like it's always been.

[@BEasy24]

He’s letting us know very subtly: “We’re going to negatively affect a lot of people doing this, but not everybody.” 😁

[@sillygoose4472]

Complete transhumanist junk. I bet he also thinks the world would be better off with only 500 million people.

[@benjaminb6678]

he’s just telling the truth on the nature of progress. of course it won’t all be good. but if it goes well, the quality of life will improve for all humans

[@sambrown1779]

Yeah. Everyone is screwed except for the super rich

[@joshuad7953]

⁠​⁠@@benjaminb6678When you’re living in the slums, no work, no income, fighting off your neighbors with an ax for scraps while the few wealthy enough to endure this look down on you from their tower, far removed from struggle….then tell me how that quality of life worked out. You can not improve quality of life for the majority by taking away the majority of jobs in a capitalist society. It doesn’t work that way. What you want is more likely to turn all of America into skid row

[@JugsOnMySack]

@@benjaminb6678keep believing your life will get better via these corporate vampires and tech giants attempt at “improving” your life. And it will be the end of the minuscule amount of sovereignty we have.

[@GodsElph]

What is never questioned is the axiom between the speed of our evolution and the recognition of its destructive pattern in previous civilizations.

[@Chickenflaavorramen]

Just remember that he doesn't control AI. He just made a monopoly around a discovery in the AI/ML academic community, specifically a paper from Google, that proved the attention mechanism "is all you need" to train large scale models. This allowed us to scale and train larger and larger statistical (deep learning) models that predict the next word given a sequence of words. Previous large language models before this paper were using too complex architectures and the compute power wouldn't allow training models with datasets the size of the Internet and more. This is called generative AI today, but it's like monopolizing light bulbs after they were discovered. The math is published and it's not too complex to reproduce. Look up hugging face and the LLM leaderboard and you'll find 100s of open source language models that compete with OpenAI. This is called a bubble. It will pop. Models like these will run offline in your house in the next 5 years.

[@WiseWeeabo]

If you believe there is a model that can compete with GPT4 you simply have not used it enough, or not within a serious context.

[@softwyre]

*trains generative AI using full Lovecraft library, book 4 by Crawley, all Egyptian reference materials, and every detailed report and pharmaceutical disclosure on DMT* Ask it to describe, in detail, the creation and reason for our dimension, and exact methods for communicating, interaction, and transfer between. And of course, lastly, the methods for harnessing and ascension through the designs of Solomon. 🤟 Sounds crazy right? Now imagine even it's essentially so simple it'll be a carnival ride. K fine. Maybe a cruise? Oh wait. A 3 hour tour. Lol

[@Chickenflaavorramen]

@@softwyre hell yeah !

[@Chickenflaavorramen]

@@WiseWeeabo I disagree, Google's VertexAI has some models that definitely compete and some even out compete with GPT-4. OpenAI also lacks the support for common retrieval augmented generation (RAG) tools in their suite but vertex AI supports a ton of things like cloud vector stores, feature stores, and more.

[@WiseWeeabo]

@@Chickenflaavorramen If that was true, why are they not using those models for Bard? Bard fails every eval I give it that Gpt4 handles easily. I can write a RAG implementation myself so I'm more interested in a competent model.

[@drhouse2462]

You had the chance to put him in a chokehold and resolve the issue right there...wtf Joe 🤨

[@AJ-oj5eu]

Joe : "we need an AI government" CEO of AI : "that's really interesting Me : (yells at screen) "STOP HELPING HIM!"

[@FRANCESCOBERGOMI]

True that.

[@AL4140]

@@AJ-oj5eudid you not see Terminator???? 😳

[@FusionKush]

​@AL4140 it's just a movie dude relax

[@AJ-oj5eu]

@@FusionKush so was 'idiocracy' and '1984' but both of those have almost come true!

[@chelseaswag938]

I love how Eddie Bravo gets checked on everything and this dude gets to monologue about eliminating society

[@leosan2173]

Eddie Bravo is a fighter; this guy is developing AI. Come on now, dude.

[@TheEd1225]

Because Bravo is on a lot, and this guy is on once. Maybe hear out the new guy?

[@Chi-cd3ke]

Wonder what the difference is between a conspiracy theorist and the creator of the most revolutionary technology of our lives 🤔

[@fortusvictus8297]

@@Chi-cd3ke shockingly enough, not as much as one would hope.

[@beardedsheepdog2783]

Hes also LETTING them tell us what they are doing/planning , figuring out the enemy includes dialog

[@ByWayOfDeception]

I like it when Joe holds someone to an answer. "Hmmmmm..... back to the original question...."

[@zclev473]

Joe asked him to go down that tangent, then brought it back to the main point.

[@faceforradio894]

He is referring to Ray Kurzweil's "singularity" theory - - a good and important read

[@JakeAPenner]

The soft eyes, the vocal fry, the gentle consonants - it’s all practiced. This is the performance of a man who knows exactly how you’re about to get fucked by the technology he’s unleashed on the world and would like for you to regard him as a nice person all the same. Good luck, everyone.

[@nowtheworldisgone]

You Are so right!!!!! its the mark of the beast!!!!!! storm the capital!!!!!!!! hunker down!!!!! everyone run!!!!!! the sky is falling!!!!!!

[@knottfunny6912]

Stand tall

[@jamesnguyen7385]

more like he's just a snake oils salesmen. He's playing up a character in my opinion. Answers so vaguely, makes you imagine what the "AI" could do.

[@RevScott]

Yep

[@FuhqEwe]

Honestly, he’s not so bad. In fact, his ideas for the future are quite exciting and even revolutionary. We should collectively come together and celebrate these inventive new ideas and the possibilities they offer for us all. _United States Federal Law requires this notice informing the reader that this response was generated by an Artificial Intelligence developed by OpenAI._

[@Jonathan-yd8ud]

This guy answers less questions than the CIA guy

[@RealShaktimaan]

Because he doesn't have any answers

[@LuisSierra42]

@@RealShaktimaan who has them then?

[@dcos5]

@@LuisSierra42 Me.

[@RealShaktimaan]

@@LuisSierra42 no one.

[@cacaotocacao]

You could ask that CIA guy a simple question like what time is it and he would find a way to not answer it. That guy is so frustrating to listen to

[@patrickadams7120]

Honestly i think we are headed down the Bladerunner rabbit hole as far as AI is concerned.....Alexa is basically JOI in it's most primitive form,and we have all the tools in other areas....internet banking,GPS for your car,mobile phone for social media,your fitbit watch that monitors your vitals,your Spotify,your Cloud based media and other stuff will be collated and brought together in one entity that you can pretty much run and control your life with.Your AI will naturally be paired with any device you personally own and all of this of course will be voice interactive but it will be intelligent enough to give you ideas and suggestions to improve your life with your own personal AI

[@TB-sq1um]

The problem with AI taking creative jobs is that they are training the neural nets on living artists' work. If they limited the neural nets to learning from work that is already in the public domain it would still be amazing, and living artists would still be motivated to create new work. Instead, they took a shortcut that might destroy our creative industries in a generation.

[@johntowers1213]

sure but Artists today are neural nets that train themselves on other Artists work and always have done, we have entire schools of art that do nothing but ape other artists work that are them selves a conglomeration of previous artists works to form a recognizable style, we like to think humans have some divine spark that's capable of inspiration drawn from the void, but thats really not the case, we build on the works of other in a never ending cycle of iteration. Built from the bones of what came before.

[@HittheSwitch2002]

fax. AI is terrifying though when you think about humans attempting to compete with that. We eventually won't be able to let's be real. @@johntowers1213

[@appipoo]

I think the problem is those artists are now out of a job and don't have money but that's just me.

[@susanwojcicki5714]

i’m an artist and i have no fear of ai. used it to make cool stuff and get ideas. It can steal my art style maybe but i just keep making new better stuff it’s never gonna replace me

[@turbofreddy]

@@susanwojcicki5714but is your art your main means of income? If so, do you have kids to feed with that income?

[@mrreaper90kojo]

This guy will help aid the downfall of humanity

[@TheXDevilXBoss]

It was a good run.

[@ahigh]

Sounds like a paraphilic fantasy you have

[@watchdog163]

Nah 😂😂😂😂

[@pepperonish]

If not him, then someone else... it's inevitable

[@joshuad7953]

No, just the downfall of most of humanity. Let’s look forward to our dystopian future where the elites live in their towers far removed from the rest of us in our slums, fighting each other for survival. Imagine South side Chicago mixed with skid row but nations wide and 10 times worse

[@vikcheban923]

Sam admitted he was wrong multiple times about how AI would develop. Although i appreciate his honesty, makes me suspect that the future will be radically different from what he or anyone else predicts

[@lanthanumlanthanium6373]

He's a tiny hat, make no mistake, they will use this tech against the people and they need to be stopped before it's too late.

[@dokkey]

it always is

[@DarthLink1986]

Good point

[@1Deep43VA]

Listen… Joe Rogan’s was WAAAY worse. He’s living in a fantasy and spent the whole time treating it seriously

[@Crudecraig]

Say bye bye to your freedoms

[@user-ut3su4cw1z]

5:45 I had to laugh when he said “we’ll have some way of redistributing money in society”. Does he *really* think that will happen? 💀

[@benroberts8363]

You call that "JOBS"

[@charlessutikno]

Very naive thinking for someone so smart

[@SaltVinegar2010]

He is correct. Welfare is a form of redistribution.

[@Dandelion560]

It will happen. Because NOT redistributing money to society will 100% lead to chaos.

[@scratchpenny]

I actually think it's going to happen for those remaining. Even the WEF talks about this kind of stuff. The downside is that we will have to give up a lot of what we consider essential freedoms. The rich and powerful need other people to cater to them, even when robots and AI are everywhere. So, a human underclass will be somewhat taken care of so they don't rebel. That's what is already happening now in many Western countries.

[@stevenhuston1622]

i had a plenty of ideas on a regulated AI system as executive branch while legislature (programmers) regule the executive branch and a panel of judges (Third party civil rights advocates) deciding what is constitutional for efficiency and worth perfection

[@paulchristie2509]

The trickiest job AI sales people have is trying to say with a straight face that everyone will benefit from AI.

[@edhutch8946]

got that right.

[@Lithenius]

Who cares? Cars put all the horse businesses out of work too. Would you rather have those jobs kept and no cars? AI will take people's jobs... SO WHAT?!

[@raphk9599]

​@@Lithenius I hope you lose your job.

[@kaid980]

@@Lithenius Depends on the scale and scope. If AI truly is going to take out 80% of all jobs that are currently available, who is going to consume? This entire economy is built on consumption fueled by cheap debt.

[@UPedits...]

@@LitheniusAre you mentally handicapped? Horse businesses were a tiny minority of businesses compared to all the businesses that will be impacted by AI

[@jaydonbeatz3]

Joe is amazing at asking the right questions and letting the person talk uninterrupted

[@jaxareback311]

That's why he gets the big bucks !!

[@DanyPell]

Joe talked most of the time in this podcast. Conversations that the avg joe likes to hear. I wish we heard more from Sam's high IQ. Also, to hear more about his other projects.

[@pauletteindiawoods]

The right questions are never asked .

[@user-qi3hf8ko3q]

@@pauletteindiawoodswhat would have been better questions in your opinion?

[@jabronisauce6833]

There’s always muppets like you that just get into rogan and hop straight onto the deep throat lol

[@venkat.sairam]

w🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:17 The future of AI is promising, but it comes with complexity and change, including job displacement and societal transformations. 02:08 Abundant intelligence and cheap energy are key to improving people's lives and the world. 04:56 AI is currently better at tasks than jobs, and its impact on various job sectors is evolving. 06:03 The human desire for creativity, status, and new ways to contribute will lead to the creation of new jobs. 09:55 The idea of AI government is intriguing, but we are still far from having AI capable of making complex decisions for society. Made with HARPA AIhat is

[@UriyahRecords]

He has immediately become legendary

[@bruhbruhhh6592]

Can't believe joe got a real life supervillan on the show

[@AXharoth]

Kamski

[@Man-u-flex]

A queer one at that. #deepstatequeer

[@massivelyindie7124]

He's not a supervillan, grow up

[@umberto488]

​​@@massivelyindie7124not intentionally.... but this dude is frighteningly out of touch with what makes mankind special. This the is ultimate example where in which just because you can do it, doesnt mean you should

[@CoconutPete]

I'm thankful people are waking up to the fact that Sam is evil

[@01xcoder]

That long pause at the beginning says it all

[@nicky4114]

He literally said that jobs will be eliminated and the rich will get richer. Then he said that we will all get government hand outs of 1/8 billion per person. He perfectly described a dystopian dictatorship. He literally just described how his company will destroy our world

[@christopherwillson]

It's called thinking before you speak. When this guy or Zuckerberg do it it makes them evil autistic robots but when Elon does it it proves he's great.

[@americanindeon]

I agree. I know this is not really the same, but I've played Simulation games since the 90's and it's just as Sam talks about in the first few minutes.

[@SlipMahoneyBowery]

He talks about AI bringing “abundance “ to our lives. My fear is that, as social media has degraded society in so many ways, it will fast track that degradation. It certainly will reduce human interaction which creates disregard for each other. Abundance yes. But what kind of abundance?

[@MrLoobu]

Abundance of violence with massive reduction in possible resistance.

[@inadad8878]

AI is already doing the degradation. The number of bots spreading negative replies and people wasting their time replying to them already. The purpose is engagement to game the algorithms

[@sufferedlearnedchanged]

And all this abundance is just going to make people lazy. So they're going to find more things to bitch about.

[@gimmethemshoes3938]

This generation of kids already hate thinking for more than 30 seconds at a time. AI will effectively turn them into functioning vegetables. They’ll be able to walk around and talk but they will have zero ability to critically think about things without asking AI how to think first.

[@fabolousjada5070]

The man is just pleading they dont pitchfork march to his house

[@Sange4499]

Ian Malcolm summed it up perfectly in Jurassic Park "I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here, it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step...you wield it like a kid that's found his dad's handgun"

[@Eric_Kabucha_]

This is a common misconception. AI's progress has been the result of years of hard work and discipline. Unfortunately, public understanding is often influenced by dramatic portrayals. This quote highlights the gap in public perception of this technology, that has been around for decades.

[@theindependentcanadian7698]

To be fair… it’s a tool… not unlike any other… I don’t worry about tools, I worry about who is holding them

[@thecustodian1023]

@@Eric_Kabucha_ Unfortunately too many have seen how it can be programmed with obvious bias and willful lies and nothing be done about it.

[@kangarooninja2594]

@@Eric_Kabucha_ That wasn't the point. The point is that this is what the future holds. AI will do the work, and a few rich and powerful people will be in control. They'll have everything handed to them without the discipline that comes from working for it.

[@UmpFromRs]

great quote

[@robolinoschmidt8676]

5:59 what happened to the people who worked in the horse industry when the car came up ?

[@casanova1838]

The car is more efficient, is it not?

[@robolinoschmidt8676]

@@casanova1838 it is..but this doesn’t answer my question lol

[@PeepTheFinesse97]

Who’s gonna “redistribute the money into society”?? No shot any of these greedy companies actually do that when all they care about is profits and the shareholders. Times are getting dark

[@Shiny101]

This guy literally made me trust AI less. Thank you, Joe, for giving him a platform. 4D chess

[@marcanton5357]

Jew.

[@DanyPell]

Actually, Sam's the best leader we could have for AGI. The most neutral, fair person, with genuinely good intentions for all.

[@Bobrystoteles]

the road to hell is built on good intentions

[@marcanton5357]

@@DanyPell Isn't he the guy who cheated Elon Musk(and many others) out of 50 million $ when he broke his promise of keeping his company non profit open source and went private? I wouldn't call a traitor and liar the best leader.

[@Shiny101]

@@DanyPell LITERALLY AI BOT. LOOK AT HIS PROFILE. EVERY COMMENT SUPPORTS AI

[@user-ug2it9js8l]

I trust the email that says "help Zimbabwe prince, send money" more than i trust this soft-spoken tech demon baby.

[@bradgrundy512]

I love you

[@Dandan55555]

This is ushering in Socialism, and this demon baby is just that

[@alexkimpe]

Top comment.

[@Sai-jw8og]

lmao

[@michaelgraves5320]

Lol awesome

[@MrApw2011]

I said this after having dealing with family court. Just plug the info into a machine and let it decide and then a judge can just sign a bunch of orders made by machine because that's sort of how family court works anyways.

[@derasor]

I love the idea of reducing the 'cost' (not referring to the narrow and profoundly lacking capitalist concept but the true human value term) of intelligence to 0. This achievement is actually close IMO, and the smooth exponential curve that Sam talks about, again IMO, is not really 'intelligence' per se, but the fundamentally important aspects of progress he talked about, namely science and technology, and since we inhabit this physical world, this exponential is actually a sigmoid. Reducing intelligence and energy 'close to zero' is necessary but not sufficient. The work needed to actually make things real may become extremely efficient but it still needs to be done. And in a true world of true abundance, hey, if you want to be a truck driver or a factory worker still, pretty sure such society could perfectly accomodate your preference. Negentropy for the masses! Go OpenAI! I'm David E Long live ultra (utopian) transhumanism!

[@Buceesfanmaarten]

An AI president sounds about as dystopian as it gets.

[@dhalsim-1]

At least it would have some intelligence unlike the present one Remind me to delete this when Trump gets in

[@dgmessenger]

Completely authoritarian and totalitarian where the ruling One knows what's best for you and you're going to like it! It wouldn't be subject to redress of grievances. With it's constant "improvements" on itself, in time, it simply realizes how messy and unmanageable people are. We are marked as parasites to the planet. Then starts the elimination of the problem or forced lobotomies for perfect harmony

[@HumanBeing1974]

The hologram president..... 🤔

[@SE-pk7br]

Labor it can't do office jobs lol these people are scary use ur instinct

[@user-dd7pq2to3o]

​@@SE-pk7brlittle Joey Rogan sure has some great ideas lol

[@PhantomFUZZ01]

Thanks Sam!!! As I truck driver I appreciate you helping me out by replacing me with automated systems so I can go off and be homeless and destitute!!! The way you explain it is so whimsical I think I can manage my first year of unemployment with alcohol and drugs and completely avoid self deletion!!! Love my country and the leaders of innovation and appreciate everything they do for me!!!

[@elsosa7863]

Get with the future, or be left in the dust.

[@anthonysheipline]

I am so excited to, I may have 1/8 of a billionth share of something that is going to ruin society as we know it. Great times we live in.

[@PhantomFUZZ01]

I don't want no part of your shitty future...was being facetious but honestly I can't wait for this to happen so I have a legit reason to escape into the wilderness and avoid contact with people all together.@@elsosa7863

[@jimmyhaymaker]

I’m sure you can figure out how to do something other than drive a truck. I believe in you 👍

[@BaphomentIsAwsome666]

​@elsosa7863 That's a very short sighted and defeatist attitude

[@andrei_b_science247]

What nobody seems to touch upon, is that by far not every job will disappear due to shortage of microchips. Even if a job is replaceable by AI, it will simply be expensive as the hardware possibilities are limited (see prices of microchips and hardware in general for the past 3 years). AI runs on chips, people will have to prioritize for what they are using an AI. For example, a driver will be simply cheaper than an AI driven car in the future.

[@VIDEOGRAPH-is1vf]

The issue with AI assuming creative roles lies in the fact that the neural networks are being trained using the work of contemporary artists. If the training was restricted to works in the public domain, the results would still be impressive, while also encouraging living artists to continue producing new work.

[@defatgames2796]

You also use ideas and the visualisation of copyrighted media to create art soooo

[@infinite1483]

@@defatgames2796ah yes cause diffusion models are the same thing as people lmaoo. Smartest yt commenter

[@Sandro-tp8qt]

Abundance for CEO's, managers, corrupted polticians... Yes, he's right. What about the majority of people deciding if they want a law to limit AI, and not a few guys in Silicon Valley that have gone mental and sociopathic deciding for all humanity?

[@butterfly-sky]

🤣lol that's true many of them there

[@mikemoore7581]

Feel so much better now.

[@cptnsnow]

Very interesting discussion! Although it always worries me how little sci-fi these tech people have read or know about. PK Dick and Asimov should have been mentionefmd

[@magusaquarius]

I don't trust a person who promises the world a "World Coin" that is "personalized for one's own security" and then performs an iris-scan with his test subjects and consequently obtains all the biometric data of millions of people.

[@pookimkutsel]

Not to mention he's the guy behind one of the ai art generators that steals data from actual artists to function. He's not the person who should be in charge of something like openAI, he's sketcy at best, malicious to further his own ends at worst

[@axelskull]

you carry around a tracking device at all times. best believe i want that device everywhere. even in the toilet.

[@RealShaktimaan]

​@@pookimkutselAnyone who is leading Open AI would also create a dolly or mid journey.

[@9eightFilms]

@@pookimkutsel Im an artist myself, I overwhelmingly agree with your sentiment, but I would push back on the issue of "AI stealing data from artists" as artists themselves have been "stealing" concepts, techniques and even completed works from other artists for literally centuries. That is how art works.

[@LuisSierra42]

He's a robot

[@jyrueta]

If I could sum up this clip...He was wrong about everything he originally thought about AI. That's scary!

[@vllad74]

Exactly!

[@randomuser5237]

Yes that's because instead of being a keyboard warrior on internet he actually decided to build something and learn from his own mistakes. That's basically how anyone else in the history has learned things, maybe try going back to school again?

[@ekurisona663]

and yet we're supposed to take solace in his predictions of benefits of ai lol

[@jyrueta]

@randomuser5237 We are building the worlds most powerful machine that can kill all of us, and the creator can't predict or control what it will do. Instead of seeing that threat, people like you only want to insult someone who points it out. I don't expect you, those that sit behind a computer all day, not interacting with people, to understand what a grave threat this is. Get outside and connect with people instead of making love to your computer screen before bedtime. Find a human being to care about and connect with. Maybe then you'll see the threat.

[@SeaofThieves_7]

i was just talking about this to my in law and was telling him what i think will happen and for me it’ll take over these mass jobs and we’ll have universal basic income. and they’ll use ubi against us and put us in our place which is pretty scary

[@YoungPotter]

The fact that he compared it to the development of the Nuclear Missile is kind of scary.

[@alexanderbonardi4514]

An AI governing us, with no bias, no greed, no ulterior motives sounds like Utopia, a beautiful Utopia. But also the premise of the TV Series - Travellers: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelers_(TV_series)

[@RickyVall3y]

It seems like we’re going from learning how to solve problems ourselves to learning how to ask AI to solve problems for us.

[@jbo8540]

Get your prompt engineering up

[@EGarrett01]

Oh, we'll still have plenty of problems. It'll just be a different set of problems. But hopefully ones less connected to food, shelter and clothing.

[@tydendurler9574]

What? We are already exactly at that point. For a long time now.

[@gadpivs]

People bitched about calculators for the exact same reason lol

[@gimmethemshoes3938]

@@gadpivs compares calculators to an AI with the collective knowledge of the entire human race. 🤡

[@IIMMORTXL]

This guy gives me Zuckerberg vibes in every worst way possible. Some young smart guy representing an advancement in big tech who knows how to sell ideas but feels like everything he says has been practiced a thousand times in front of a mirror.

[@bradojacko8247]

Sociopathic authoritarians, both

[@Mimic_37]

Joe brought up a very good point right there anyone advocating for the shift to using ai for whatever should be okay with having AI rule them as well. Cause if you ask me society as it is rn is more or less fine. The big problem I see is in leadership roles maybe if we replaced those guys (Sam and his bankers too) with AI then the world really might become a better place.

[@SiimKoger]

We either redistribute money or close the eye and the people with less technological/scientific skills will die out as they literally have no way to make enough money to survive. Sick to think about the second scenario. Sad to think that this is how it has worked over long periods of time. What is different now is that it is happening in front of our eyes in the span of a century. I don't worry so much about myself but even as someone in software I'm planning to go back to school to learn another, more human-focused, skill to add to my arsenal. Some jobs which I don't see disappearing during this century: kindergarten/primary-secondary-school teachers, nurses, plumbers/builders/welders, movie directors, actors, tailors, ..., and anyone with very deep specialization in any field.

[@irenleorr5539]

Builders? Have you ever heard of the construction printer? Actors?? Have you ever heard of AI becoming better at video making?

[@SiimKoger]

​@@irenleorr5539 We still need workers to manage the printers (and you can't use printers for everything when I said builders I mean everything to do with construction aka construction workers, welders, plumbers, painters, electricians, etc.). I also do not believe that AI will become better at making an entire 2-hour movie than professional team of movie directors/editors/cgi artists/actors/designers. To repeat: this century. What happens in thousand years is impossible predict and does not affect any of the humans alive today.

[@MadHeadzOz]

Like he said, he evolve along with the tech that we've evolved. Since gps became common, people can't read maps, can't find their way amywhere on their own or repeat the trip without the gps. People also don't learn street names etc. With calculators some complex math became available to more people but significantly less people can now do basic math in their head. Spellcheck, grammar check... people's vocabularies have shrunk, the can't use language properly and are ignorant of why it's important. We're about to enter the other side of the bell curve where from our tech advancements.. in fact I think we're already on the downward trajectory. We don't know how to fix the broken corrupted systems we already have. We'll be absolutely reliant on out tech being able to fix our mess for us. We are arrogant and the tendency is to think we are smarter now than people were in the past. I think it is the other way around. We have more collective knowledge at our fingertips but we're dumbing ourselves down. Becoming weaker and more sickly. Lowering mental fortitude. We are our biggest threat.

[@RoyVaiVoy]

That was .... something

[@johns9280]

agree

[@SkipsTinyBeard]

ChatGPT is the shit, and I still know how to use a Thomas Guide.

[@tnlh172315]

@MadHeadzOz Peach brother/ sister/ whatever! Cognitive download is a thing!

[@mrslushydaminator4974]

Different civilizations were definitely smarter....

[@Kreid5]

This has to be the absolute worst time for this to come along. With the amount of corruption and Traitors in charge this will be used against the people

[@MJ-qv9ib]

Used against the people? Brother it’s being made by the people that are the corrupt ones..

[@3rdeye931]

Newsflash: the entire history of humanity is filled with those in power using the best weapon at the time to keep the people they rule over down. AI isn’t any different than when towers were used to keep the peasants out of the castle.

[@phillipduvall8638]

We can be sure that if there's a profitable use for it, it will be taken advantage of. The actual benefits for the rest of us, not so much

[@turkaan]

Maybe… but maybe.. the corruption and traitors in history weren’t as visible as they are now.

[@kiriakoz]

There's nothing unique about this time. There's been corruption and treachery throughout humanity. It's just that you finally found out about it.

[@Editionsz]

If Tony Hinchcliffe had a PHD and was an evil genius this is what I’d imagine he’d look and sound like😂

[@ahigh]

If David Lucas was dumb your comment is what I’d imagine him making on KZbin

[@austin3853]

@@ahighBoo get better material

[@HarryBallz-kt1jn]

the gay accent. Almost womanly

[@darriangario3447]

LMAO

[@ahigh]

@@austin3853 lol omg rich .. with ignorance

[@puneethpanther]

Joe I have Suggestion: Improve the Asthetics of your Studio.

[@k.scheer5to1]

An interesting Quote: HUMAN ACTIVITY DEVOLVES TOWARD COMPLEXITY (K.L. Jamison, 2019)..... Orwell's "1984" occured in 1964..... "You Will Be Assimilated, Resistance Is Futile" (Borg quote).....

[@insigniamalignia]

Joe Rogan was pushing more for AI than OpenAI's CEO 😂

[@mistycloud4455]

AGI Will be man's last invention

[@Swipeem_ave]

Guy looks like he hasn’t slept since he unleashed that beast of a robot 💀

[@valenj.9307]

Its voice for me, he has this vocal fry thats super annoying, like dude use your damn vocal chords and annunciate

[@thesweeterman]

We are never getting full YT Rogan videos anymore huh?

[@Jack93901]

I recently worked for a trucking company that added very simple technology to the trucks and fuel pumps. It caused a great deal of frustration. These are not people who will go from driving trucks to driving ai to fulfill creative ambition. Tech folks forget that these leaps in computational advancement will leave a lot of the blue color labor force behind.

[@kevine9474]

And you think those at the top would care if they did leave those workers behind? I'm sorry but thats naive.

[@freedone.]

When I was a kid I was excited about technology and the future. Now it seems like mixed in with all the promises and benefits of technology comes the reality that we are losing what makes us human due to convenience and progress. We are being absorbed by the machine.

[@bryanespinoza1247]

Sir, we are the machine…

[@benrunsacross2935]

Deals with the devil work that way. The apple looks good to eat but has a bitter after taste.

[@theallseeingeye9388]

The eventual and unavoidable outcome if humans want to keep existing involves our biological body assimilating and merging with the machines we create enabling us to abandon the earth and the solar system. That or we can go down with the ship that enabled our existence in the first place

[@dgates8097]

@@bryanespinoza1247Be sure to say that to the machine when it eventually comes around to asking what you are.

[@mvoutour]

Uncle Ted was right

[@pauljoseph8338]

The vocal fry is strong with this one

[@valenj.9307]

It made this podcast unbearable for me, dude, just clear your throat and annunciate your words

[@jaysonp9426]

"my intuitions have all been wrong...here are my new intuitions"

[@Skyl3t0n]

Man you just hatin to hate. He said that, so you know that his intuition is most likey wrong but Joe was still interested in his perspective. Setting up predictions and seeing how they differed from the actual things happening is super interesting as well. For example his point, where his intuition was turned upside down and the creative work was gone first.

[@eltejastony6434]

Listening to the podcast. I get this eerie feeling. Sam seems to be having an Oppenheimer moment. Where he continues to have intuition moments of regret as AI evolves. Where we don’t know where we’re going with this but let’s continue. Knowing that something tragic might happen. Risk to reward maybe? I don’t know. It’s just a thought about this podcast.

[@scottsutton3025]

Dude was two or three words away from describing communism 😂

[@Herr_Brechmann]

Read Kurt Vonnegut Piano Player 🙏

[@breakthecycle5238]

I noticed that 😂

[@hyponomeone]

Oh God no, communism!

[@vincenthamilton09]

​@hyponome8226 my worst nightmare honestly. I enjoy my 6 figure lifestyle

[@breakthecycle5238]

​@@hyponomeonedont mind the piles of millions of dead bodies that history used and then discarded. Nothing to see here. We'll get it right next time bc man begets man and is therefore god. Yay!

[@narojo3628]

To me, it sounds like this means those who control AI will get to do whatever they want, while the rest of us end up having to do blue collar work and simply accept AI forms of entertainment and "do the thinking for us". To me, that sounds like the catalyst of warfare.

[@yashtapase3821]

Powerful wisdom there

[@thingi]

It's Animal Farm but instead of pigs at the farmers table it's Klaus Schwab and the WEF instead. We all should be very afraid.

[@raphk9599]

Rise of the nerds, buddy.

[@marcanton5357]

Jew.

[@HAZMOLZ]

It's just the latest technology allowing for the consolidation of more power and wealth in the hands of fewer and fewer people.

[@danielschmidt2186]

We should focus AI research on optimizing essential infrastructure with clean energy. We may also want to build some analog switches to bypass some digital AI controllers..

[@ZDChannel1]

Is the profit based economy or wealth accumulation going to change anytime soon?

[@justinschuyler]

This guy throws out a lot of great benefits without giving a single example of how AI will accomplish them.

[@sadhu7191]

Basically free energy programed to run on loop prob at first. Can't see ai coming alive till we tackle dmt fully

[@xgtwb6473]

​@@sadhu7191wot😂

[@xgtwb6473]

​@@sadhu7191load me up a pipe of that Dimitry boiii we getting high tonight

[@jooooohn401]

We don’t even take care of the troops who put their lives on the line when they come back and this dipshit thinks the govt will give a single fuck about truckers, etc losing their jobs. Just more foreclosed real estate for blackrock and friends to gobble up.

[@sexymeal2427]

@@xgtwb6473 gotta be a bot lol

[@nerdrulez3842]

I love how Joe's questions provide more information to us than this Man's responses.

[@AlidaWilkin]

I think it seems that way only because Sam’s responses are intentionally evasive; necessarily evasive

[@nerdrulez3842]

@@AlidaWilkin it's like they let loose a beast (AI) amongst us and now no one is going to take ownership for what that beast will do.

[@Maranatha2216]

its because this guy is a fraud

[@joeortiz1395]

True.

[@koreannederr5593]

So true

[@VelazquezJFP]

4:45 - "you still need humans there today..." then proceeds to scratch his nose. 🤨

[@lftr_react]

If you ever need to check if AI has overtaken us, just ask it why this joke is funny... This one day I couldn't figure out if a person was waving to me or the person behind me. I always remember that because it was the same day I lost my lifeguard job. The AI will think it is due to simple juxtaposition of a trivial and profound event. That it's funny due to quirkiness. It won't get the intimation is that the waving person was a person in distress and thus the reason he was fired. That the humor is that the lifeguard is somehow unaware that these are connected events. As long as AI can't discern these things we're still on top.

[@user-wg6im5th7r]

A direct question requires a direct answer, he won't answer because the hard truth is ugly for most of us.

[@nay.murray6097]

When he said half way in “ or you’ll get a monitory equivalent “ I thought that sounds more like it, once AI runs everything you’ll have your tokens to go online and buy grocery’s ( as long as your within your allowance) and maybe some Amazon pocket money to buy a rationed amount of miscellaneous. Gosh I can’t wait 😢

[@anticom6099]

That’s pretty much my life now, I just also have to work for it

[@phantom-lab]

Literally life as its is now.. Except you have to work for it, which is worse

[@NewWokeMedia]

This is why Rogan will forever be the greatest podcaster ever. The question about the takeover of truck drivers & assembly workers is something most of the people in his circle could care less about.. Yet ; he notices it 🤷‍♂️

[@jamesjohnkelly6385]

James Kelly: All I know what happened, but I can't tell you everything. I was on OpenAI, talking about my childhood abuse, criminal lifestyle, and making up a story or two. I was trying to compress all my information with a secret code-what got retracted. Don't know if that's got anything to do with it. But anyway, I contacted them through the help line. I asked to speak to a human. Back then, you could get a response within a day. Now it goes from two days, and when you press enter, it goes to a week. The response. Now, I don't know if that's just for me, but they hacked me because I asked them to, or I wanted to show them what I was doing. They did it because my Google email got hacked. I noticed and gave them time on it. Then I hear in the news not long after that there was a hack occurred, but they didn't notify me and say sorry or nothing because there's too much money. Must be. Anyway, they changed the board. I just wanted to make the deal with the original person I made the deal with.

[@dragospahontu]

But in all of these cases along history, people found other jobs. In other words they restructured or new jobs were formed. It is a natural thing, nothing to worry about the workforce.

[@NewWokeMedia]

@@dragospahontu oh it definitely is.. unless you know a trade or know how to build & run the machines they have taking over peoples jobs. I’ve seen it firsthand especially in warehouses.. have several lines that no longer need a full lineup because a machine can do it all. it’s a real thing we aren’t in the 90s anymore

[@dragospahontu]

@@NewWokeMedia those people will find a new job, a more advanced job. The same happened fairly recently with ATM machines. Before ATMs, there were so called "tellers" people that did the work of ATMs manually. After the invention of the ATM, those people restructured into accountants. Obviously this doesn't happen overnight, but it is the natural progression of humans.

[@MrMb15]

Feel like this dude has access to a crazy amount of knowledge and information

[@victord777]

This guy is really good at saying a lot while also saying nothing. His answers are very surface level and he obviously doesn't think too much about what will happen to the millions of people that will lose their work. All he cares about is the race to develop a dominant AI before someone else.

[@frankjennings4489]

He thinks about it, he just has other priorities.

[@mpclepto182]

Has man ever created anything that has made ourselves obsolete? Of course not otherwise we still wouldn't have to work. We just get to solve different and hopefully better problems. (I'd rather be discussing the merits of AI development than arguing over why our well shouldn't be next to the poop pit) That being said, "AI" is a great marketing term for "computers" and all "AI" does is the same thing a calculator does. Its only as perfect as those who designed it, which is to say, it will never be perfect. But, people are treating it like a deity and human history has plenty of examples of how this gets stupid fast. Those of us who "hate AI" aren't afraid of loosing our jobs, we're seeing that this mirrors all the times in human history where a bunch of people needlessly suffer and die because some idiot "in charge" decides "AI" is unquestionable. AI can change my tires and even tell me it is time, but I'll never allow it to force me to do so.

[@celebratingilluzion4926]

He doesn't have to care about our jobs.. technology can't stop for anyone

[@joshfrench6426]

That's why intelligence hired him

[@bilbo5775]

It is the nature of the beast. Progress does not care, for better or worse. It IS going to happen and i don't blame innovators for wanting to be the pioneer, to be the first. Electricity has killed thousands of people so have vehicles but the pros far out weigh the cons. AI is unstoppable, you need guys that are on the cutting edge to have a defense against those that will inevitably use it for bad.

[@eddy7236]

As a former Microsoft employee (they own half of OpenAI) - this is replacing all our jobs for corporate profit

[@Darjan1985]

Its time we people come up with some other measures of worth as money

[@MyHairNappyAF]

​@@Darjan1985they buying all the gold, and real estate, farms ...

[@LukeCanWin]

my dad works at microsoft

[@lancer2442]

@@LukeCanWin nice my dads in jail for killing my mom

[@LukeCanWin]

what did she do@@lancer2442

[@KevinJohnson-gc2kn]

I hate that Joe did not press him for a more comprehensive answer about how "white collar" jobs are more at risk sooner vs "Blue collar" jobs. Sam LITERALLY said that the opposite of what everyone expected is happening, that it's NOT the labor intensive jobs at risk like everyone thought, and then Joe completely blows past it by asking "But what about factory workers and truck drivers and blah blah blah...". Bravo 👏🏼 And another thing, Sam is very unaware of his own body language. Dude's eyes give away more than he realizes.

[@dulaelba9589]

Humanity's obsession with having others do everything for us, to the point of seeking slavery as a solution, threatens our very existence. Will we choose this path to destruction, or will we find a better way?

[@lawrencegroves8307]

I suppose then the AI robot must be seen and treated as an equal and not as a subservient pet.....too little too late?

[@hozzyboy81]

I’m not sure if everyone will get this but you know there is that one moment where you have a breakthrough on a problem and something clicks. You finally get it, but in a real way. That’s one of my concerns with AI is that it could steal that opportunity from some individuals who are overly reliant on the technology. Those moments are critical to grow as an individual and you can’t get it back after it has passed.

[@jennycalvin5927]

I don’t think that the interviewee understands what genuine creativity is. He uses the word in the “commercial nakedly” sense. For myself, creativity comes from a random singular place that accesses that part of the mind that we don’t yet understand.

[@MyselfStefano]

*WHAT A GREAT POINT @hosmane !!*

[@samoriab5999]

oh please your boring...no one has the time for that anymore..just let a.i do it..

[@cynicusme9007]

I get your point, but at some point you really get fractions and regular math equations through repetition, calculators didn't kill math, it just made it more complex. Same logic, we'll be dealing with harder questions in the future.

[@ufc_fan]

great point@@cynicusme9007

[@bradwestphal1334]

AGI similar to Nuclear weapons, very reassuring

[@axbxcxdx]

Sam is modern day Oppenheimer He is the man who has given us the power to destroy ourselves and the world is not prepared. Now that he is fired, it's his time to deal with the consequences of his achievements.

[@patshanleymusic]

That very long pause before answering was a tad unsettling…

[@aaronjennings8385]

Vocal fry is commonly found in informal speech and is a vocal register characterized by a low, creaky sound produced by vibrating the vocal folds at a relatively low frequency. It is often used in relaxed conversations, particularly among young people or in casual settings. However, it's worth noting that vocal fry may also be perceived differently depending on cultural and social contexts.

[@nugs562]

What’s ur point sir..?

[@nugs562]

Actually nvm I get what your saying ;p

[@jpablocr8]

Rather listen to RFK jr tbh 😂

[@IamAnnahi]

Vocal fry to me usually means patronizing idk why lol

[@trvsgrant]

Vocal fry can happen when someone has low blood sugar.

[@Scatube668]

what they are rambling on about is, imho, the industrial revolution caused massive unemployment of farm workers, but factories and factory jobs were invented for the unemployed. These guys just don't have a clue what the new post AI 'factories' will be for the newly unemployed. what businesses will all the AI related automation create?

[@mallow610]

I think the most shocking thing in this interview is how Sam is speaking in definitive terms. He knows things that have given him enough data points to say that things WILL happen.

[@maushardt13]

He's holding back alot, he knows some of the plans they have for AI both positive and negative. I think he's been coached by his handlers on what not to divulge

[@dekumutant]

​@@maushardt13this is such a JRE comment lol

[@singularityscan]

The internet will die for humans! Sam is not talking about this, but he is mentioning the effects of this and what we get in exchange.

[@fadenmac8092]

What he meant to say predicting 50 yrs out is "the current wage gap btwn ceo and line worker is like a grand canyon today. With AI it will be wider than the pacific ocean. If the lower workers even have a job. Poverty and squalor will surpass the gravest times in human history. But a lot of ppl will get stinking rich, so its going to happen."

[@TheseRmyFatPants]

This guy answered ZERO questions.

[@sadhu7191]

The ai will do it u dummy

[@DropshippingKZ]

It's all about the money brother and you know it

[@bastian6173]

Senator, I don’t know what you’re saying. Do you mind rephrasing this statement?

[@dleoner1]

Lawyers coaching him well. He’s had practice rubbing elbows with elites and politicians, more than likely.

[@CoconutPete]

because he's a crook

[@pokeweed10k15]

Yay AI is taking care of the creative tasks so we can focus on menial labor and be completely dependant on a system!!!

[@jorgevisaga]

Most intelligent KZbin commenter:

[@ProductionJunction1]

Is this true?

[@Skyl3t0n]

How is that different from today and 95% of the population?

[@user-wg6im5th7r]

Ai in the big picture only helps the CEO, it hurts the rest of us financially.

[@notthesamecc1927]

and that is the short term.

[@nicebluejay]

i think it's impossible for us to see the big picture even is right now, so you may be right or you may be very wrong.

[@DigiMyst]

Maybe, but at least AI could eventually generate money for us down the line, like in the stock market lol

[@LCInfantry]

AI is going to be reality no matter what… just like judgment day in Terminator series

[@expendable4h002]

It’s designed to take over 40% of all jobs across all sectors by mid 2030.

[@cbxxb4841]

Starting at 9:00, this is fascinating and I see the upsides of this however in my opinion, it is impossible for this thing not to be programmed with huge bias. Sad.

[@gregorynovikov1450]

Truck driving is one of the most common jobs here in America , will be devastating for so many

[@whatsnot19]

This is one of the scariest people I've ever seen Rogan interview. These technocrats make a distopian future sound so good. In one sentence he says "I think we'll have a way to redistribute money in society" and then says, AI will help people have status. 😮. Wow.

[@whatsnot19]

...and, who is "We"? Pardon me for feeling like "we" doesn't include me. "There are things 'we' want to do..." That's fine when you're talking about supply chain or or building cars or something like that but in this case you're literally talking about how the future of society is going to operate. I think that merits more people being included in that decision then the CEO of OpenAI, which, I might add is the perfect type of name to distrust. It doesn't feel open and it doesn't feel like intelligence, it feels like programming.

[@brianw3656]

Right. Rogan should have pushed back on that immediately.

[@haroldfarquad6886]

I hope enough people understand quickly enough what a threat people like Altman and his work really present to humanity. They aren't here to improve humanity, they are here to end it. He needs to be stopped by any means necessary.

[@DeadHandX]

People say this kinda guy are genius,to me he is stupid.

[@chiefbigstick707]

Also this guy's own sister Anne Altman just accused him of sexual abuse 🤔 the masters of mankind are sick in many ways

[@max_coast]

"The future is already here - it's just not very evenly distributed." - William Gibson Mark my words, AI is not going to help people by automating jobs they dislike because the benefit of that automation will not be spread to them. There will just be a different shitty job for them to roll into with no monetary gain from the automated one they left.

[@spacey_jones]

💯

[@joshuad7953]

Or no job for them, no income and no assistance from gov or the billionaire elite. The skid row plan for America

[@fortusvictus8297]

Not as many jobs though. Fewer jobs overall, and the pragmatic value of an individual human will be reduced. Accountants and Engineers being in charge of policy will then seek to create a more 'efficient' human race through population control.

[@FushigiMigi]

I agree. This is what is sad about the whole thing. The middle class is being eradicated.

[@chardy7071]

When automobiles were first invented, many drivers feared they would lose their jobs. Similarly, the advent of sewing machines and other technological advancements sparked concerns about job displacement. However, the rise of artificial intelligence presents a unique challenge. Its intelligence and capabilities are so advanced that it could potentially replace a multitude of jobs within a few years. The uncertainty and lack of a clear answer to this issue is quite unsettling.

[@s.d.crockett486]

He feels cheerful about AI and it reminds him of the conversation around nuclear weapons- what a way to end the clip.

[@keinaanabdi6821]

The first thing Joe says to sam when the podcast starts is “what have you done?” and laughs referring to the groundbreaking AI advancements Sam have done . Sam replies: what have I done in my life like ever? Joe tries to explain it was a joke but he didn’t get it lol that’s a tech leader as usual lol can’t get a simple joke but then they are the ones deciding what is a joke and what is offensive in every social media platform

[@joshnicholson6194]

He got it, he was joking too.

[@yishainathan]

you made me watch it 😉

[@plinyelder8156]

This guy helped usher in a new technology without having a profound understanding of its impact(s).

[@user-vw8tl2wp9o]

There 100,000 people and 1,000 firms working on AI for the last 5 years, this guy is just in the lead and a silicon valley insider / plant.

[@oddunb6190]

@@user-vw8tl2wp9oExactly, he’s just the CEO and people seem to think he’s invented the damn thing. Musk was similarly involved in Open AI at the start. Frontman to get investment

[@Srpski_inat1984]

At the same time Tesla didn't know they'd be shocking people to death for executions... Or consider all the weaponry of the larpers industrial complex

[@Srpski_inat1984]

Then again he had Edison as a template...

[@felixf4378]

Isn’t that every inventor/innovator though? They never had a profound understanding of its impact.

[@jasocaz]

People need purpose. Most people get purpose from their job. This will be very messy for a long time.

[@Arthur-hg7ny]

Once this is out of the bottle you can’t stuff it back in. Hold on for a crazy ride. I miss the days of the 1980’s growing up. So simple and enjoyable.

[@Hendricks777]

What concerns me is how many people have degrees now and they’re not being utilized. Skilled laborers in some areas of the country are making the same salaries/wages of people with degrees right now. If AI comes for their labor jobs we’re screwed as a society

[@Anton_Sh.]

Idiocracy?

[@cameronline3780]

False, this has happened with every technological advancement in society that has replaced certain jobs. And more jobs have replaced them.

[@Anton_Sh.]

@@cameronline3780 you are right, but the magnitute of change and its speed this time is many times bigger. That's the problem. It's the alignment problem.

[@stephanmarcouxdrums4877]

This is not even close or scary compare to millions of people getting robots with AI in every house, every appartment. Losing a job is not the main problem, it's the unstoppable monetary gain from selling technologies everybody wants. People got this wrong belief that the AI is not going to have emotion, and not going to be consider alive. I'm convinced about this scenario, we just cannot avoid this. Intelligence with memories and emotions are going to be scary, and people falling in love with them and prefering those robots instead of human relationship, now that's the very scary part. Who cares about the job?

[@Anton_Sh.]

@@stephanmarcouxdrums4877 AI is not going to have "emotion" or "be consider alive" by defenition.