HP Pavilion Plus Review - Great Laptop, Bad Timing...

[@xophaser]

HP have sale on their website all the time. This product now is much less closer to $650 with Oled depending on the other spec.

[@vzuzukin]

Every budget laptop needs to have an AMD 7040 class Zen4 APU with 780M integrated graphics. It makes every other budget option obsolete

[@vzuzukin]

Two red stickers and it better not be 7735!

[@keqling7086]

that igpu is extremely good a no brainer for any budget laptop

[@omarcortes5754]

There was no reason to remove the fan. Come on HP it was already there😅

[@rishinarang9966]

Hp pavilion minus

[@NXDL25]

Literally wasted space that could've been used for something else

[@rishinarang9966]

but wasnt@@NXDL25

[@asyraff09]

There is another SKU with RTX3050 so maybe that's why for this one there is a fake fan

[@volgamoskvicova3905]

Two fans are there only for intel processor 13700h

[@vncube1]

6:56 No, one fan has to spin faster than two fans for the same thermal dissipation so more fans are better for quiet operation.

[@PeterDLai]

This laptop in this configuration was on sale for $599.99 at Costco yesterday. Seems like a good deal!

[@dannyboy900102]

wow, that's a great deal. Got mine for $800 (Ryzen 7 model)

[@ompatil9831]

​@@dannyboy900102 Hey! Was planning to get the same laptop. How is your experience till now?

[@dannyboy900102]

@@ompatil9831 it's only been a couple of months but no complaints so far. The screen is gorgeous and watching Netflix on this is a dream. Built quality is definitely above average but for the price I'd say it's great.

[@dannyboy900102]

@@ompatil9831 It's been great so far! no major complaints.

[@sachindev5081]

@@dannyboy900102 How is the performance so far?

[@FoxxFire]

This review will stay relevant in the upcoming months since HP always discounts these devices heavily. So even though its current price (even with the current discount) is a bit high, the price will drop for sure into the winter and spring.

[@siamak1246]

I got this from Best Buy and I am really impressed with how HP tunned Windows 11. It's way better than Lenovo's laptop.

[@Shaxzara]

Lenovo Legion Slim 7 from 2022 AMD Advantage edition is retailed for 1300USD… thats the best deal and best laptop to get now for litteraly everyone gaymer, student, work

[@miscwork-qb7pd]

The same laptop, Legion slim 7, from this year with 7840HS and 4060, is actually less on Lenovo's website atm for 1235$. You lose the fingerprint scanner and 1 RAM stick is soldered, so it is a trade off, but that CPU and GPU upgrade is significant

[@josephle2381]

Gaymer💀💀💀

[@thundergato84]

Gaymer? 🤔

[@cavecodes853]

Everyone is a gaymer these days

[@frankwong9486]

With more fans may not have more fan noise , cause you have a larger fin stack array and two fans which can run at a lower speed One fan and smaller finstack array is only for one reason - cost saving

[@xxzmk]

As a Software Developer I see it as very important for having good upgradeability. I would rather go with a HP Elitebook 845 G10 and get it upgraded from 8 to 64GB of DDR5 Ram and rock that tbh.

[@fretboardrunner]

I also really like upgradeability but especially with RAM it has its downsides. Slower memory means slower iGPU and slower CPU performance where memory bandwidth matters. It also means higher power consumption. Since I'm a dev, I know the amount of RAM I probably need and I'd rather have longer battery life. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather have both and hate to use the option to upgrade later. But at least the prices for 16 or 32 GB are fair enough to just go 1 bigger now. HP is not Apple.

[@xxzmk]

@@fretboardrunner Hmm yeah I understand your point. I have had a Lenovo Yoga 7i with Ryzen 7 6800u and 16GB DDR5 6xxxmhz of speed. It was really quick when running with Linux Mint but Windows 11 was a mess of input lag and delay everywhere. There were no Windows 10 drivers and I have had occasional nights, where I ran over the 16GB barrier of Ram many times which slowed me down (Especially when developing Android Apps). Since then I have a Main System at home with an i5-13500, 2x 32GB DDR4 3400Mhz and a used GTX 1060 6GB, and I have to say, this is the best thing ever happen to me as a developer. I catched myself averaging between 24-36GB of Ram usage in Windows 10. But on Mint I think a Notebook with sothered 32GB of DDR5 will do totaly. Fine. I just like to have a little bit more headroom.

[@xxzmk]

Plus I hate the Apple MacBook Keyboards, They suck Di** in my opinion. They are way too easy to actuate, I have a Work Notebook: HP ZBook Fury G7 with i7-10850H and 32GB of Ram with Quadro GPU and I have to say I have fallen in Love with the ZBook and Elitebook 8xx Series Keyboards. They have 0 swivel, are very nice in low level keyboard and are between something like mx-keys and macbooks shit keyboards in actuation force.@@fretboardrunner

[@virility]

why don't you just get a macbook?

[@xxzmk]

@@virility Ehh because they are overpriced ?

[@lynpepler]

I just scored one of these today at HP website for $568. 4th of July sale. I plan on starting courses in the fall, and we haven't had a good working computer in our home for a LONG time. I have to admit, I was torn between HP and Dell. I've only ever had Dell laptops, so its exciting to try something new.

[@ngthampi99]

Same here..cheers 🥂

[@alokdash35]

But, Pavilion is their budget lineup of product, at the bottom end.

[@kompassorpigo7600]

4:33 I think something is wrong with your unit Matt. Ain't no way it's taking 100 minutes for something an old Intel took 40 minutes for. The other laptops with the same CPU are 33-35 minutes. That's an almost 200% difference.

[@ballancehzhu5284]

This laptop in China sales at 5199 RMB/~710usd for 7840HS/32g/1tb right now.

[@ballancehzhu5284]

and chinese version has two fans.

[@bradleypham]

This notebook is $759 on HP right now for Black Friday. I just bought a 17" LG Gram with an Intel 1360P for $799 and I'm going to return it. Why? Because while it might be a good price, the Intel processors are inefficient and run hot, so much so that the same LG Gram with an I5 Processor runs as fast as my I7 because of thermal limitations.

[@iamtofuboy]

4:59 - you mentioned RX 7800M instead of Radeon 780M. This would have been a steal if it actually was the case, but when you opened it up to show the heat management situation, it immediately became apparent that it's not an RX 7800M.

[@randyr1909]

It's great for Canadian's and Americans. Here where I live the UK, we rarely get deals like you lucky lot.😢😢😢

[@MatthewMoniz]

Just Americans Canadians have worse deals than the UK

[@revelfree]

After trade in this exact laptop comes out to £599 for me - pretty great compared to most other UK prices for 16gb, 1tb OLED

[@randyr1909]

@@MatthewMoniz Great Matthew next time I want something from Canada or America, I will Transfer money to you. So you can get me what I want, and don't worry I will pay for the carrier payment. I've tried buying from Best Buy etc but they don't ship goods to the UK. I've even told them that I'm prepared to pay. But no luck.

[@randyr1909]

@@revelfree Thanks for your like, but could I ask you where and whom you traded with.

[@revelfree]

@@randyr1909directly with HP. Just a £200 trade in but brings the price down to a very good level for this much laptop

[@Chuck8541]

They're just clearing inventory, before getting new stuff to sell to us for the holidays.

[@bryans8656]

That looks like a decent laptop, but I think it'll get lost in a sea of decent laptops. Lots of choices out there.

[@shroomjak200]

i was actually thinking of getting this laptop but I agree with the timing thing, theres the intel variant of this with the i71355U and rtx 2050 for slightly cheaper here in the UK and I also found a lenovo yoga pro 7 with a ryzen 7 7735HS and rtx 3050 6gb for over almost £200 cheaper

[@yeyoeddy]

7840u, 1tb, oled screen, 16gb ram for 869 usd. Is it a good deal?

[@baoquoc3710]

maybe?, but RTX 2050 will still fare better because now it also in this price range

[@blueeyednick]

wait is it available only with 16gb ram? you gotta be kidding me...

[@austinburlingham0560]

Im a little late, but i just picked up this laptop for $850 online as my first laptop. Seemed like a pretty good deal🔥

[@Guru-rq3gs]

bro i just ordered it , im just curious how is the gaming situation ? is it okay for some casual retro gaming?

[@austinburlingham0560]

@Guru-rq3gs it can't handle big games, like I tried Helldivers 2 on the most minimal graphics settings you could go and it was still unplayable. If you're just going for smaller games then it should work great, but it won't be able to handle all the more demanding games

[@Guru-rq3gs]

@@austinburlingham0560 oh thankss , btw besides the review , hows the battery life really , in real life student situation ? am a college student myself lol

[@austinburlingham0560]

@Guru-rq3gs for me personally I only use it to play games, and use it plugged in 24/7. I will say it's not crazy long for gaming, but probably wouldn't be to bad just doing school work. I would think gaming eats the battery more.

[@bgk1750]

Which one is better among Samsung galaxy book 2 pro 360 Intel 12th Gen i5 Evo and this for photo, video editting ? I am confusing which one would be better

[@jeevejavari8461]

I have this laptop and it's better in Movavi photo editor and lightroom vs that intel cpu

[@stevep927]

How does 699 sound at Costco as of right now

[@ydboss]

is the touchpad glass or metal?

[@aschlect]

I'm disappointed HP didn't release an Envy x360 13.3" this year. The 2022 model was impressive, but here in the USA, we never got the blue option, only the keyboard backlight destroying silver.

[@Sykeye7]

I'm so tired of HP and their forever dumb decisions to include suboptimal parts in their laptops compared to the competition. And those bottom speakers are a joke.

[@blacklemarlonsofficial]

I love it, given that my lenovo is super old with a pentium processor, 4GB of RAM and 500GB HDD, it's now dead and won't power on and all my work is in there

[@revelfree]

After trading in an 8th gen intel laptop that wasn't being used I'll have got this for £599 - which seems like too good a price to miss out on. It's not perfect but 120hz OLED and latest CPU / iGPU combo is pretty good at that price point

[@JayHernan]

Dude, Thanks for throwing in the price comparisons in the begining. It shows that youre not a product shill. Unbox Therapy and all the others are losing people because therye shills.

[@lowcartographer]

Anyone facing build quality issues on this one? I bought one in Prime day sales last week for dollar equivalent of $690. It had a Sep '23 manufacture date and came with a completely depleted battery. That aside I'm facing below issues 1. The bottom of the case is ever so slightly curved outward ls and it makes the rubber feet not touch at the ends. This leads to wobble when I rest my palms on the keyboard and type. 2. The fan has a high pitch whine when it is running. It's an odd frequency that's a bit grating. 3. Touchpad is a bit springy and rattles on tap. This gives a slight inaccurate feeling on clicks. I use a Macbook pro from work, so I'm not sure I'm coming off as spoilt, but I i certainly didn't have similar issues in my past laptop purchases including an HP one.

[@dianamnajarro5119]

How the hell this this laptop get worse?! My HP pavilion is going on 6 years now and it still works like a dream. Sure its wonky sometimes and tends to act up, but again its old now but my friends who the newer models kept coming into trouble with theirs when ive never once had those problem until i dropped mine and the charger port got dislodged. The only reason im looking for a new is cuz its gonna be 7 years old soon, everywhere i gone to want to charge me $1000 just to fix the charger port. All other issues i had was fixed by tech support easily enough. Im still looking through the latest reviews of all the laptops of these past two years and somehow my almost 7 year old laptop is better than all of them. Yes im probably biased but the fact that my laptop has all the same benefits but none of the weird issues i keep seeing and hearing about until last year. My brother who works with computers took one look at mine and said if i just get it fixed it work better than what out on the market right now. I hate that he's right.

[@richusomy3368]

Hi I really love your channel. I am looking into Lenovo legion pro 7i and it comes with 2 CPU configurations, one with Intel i9-13900hx and AMD ryzen 7945hx both paired with NVIDIA 4080. Which model would you recommend and why

[@baoquoc3710]

intel. As much as my point being controversial (because hurr durr intel hot and battery life is shit AMD the best), the main reason here is AMD Chiplets usually have high voltage override which at idle it will glug the battery absolutely batshit crazy.

[@thundergato84]

The Lenovo Yoga 7i is a good deal for $600.

[@Riverpeth]

What would you recommend for a premium ultra-portable-like Windows laptop with beefier internals? Discrete GPU would be a plus, as long as the form factor is still sleek. I currently have a Surface Laptop 3, but it's underpowered, although I particularly love the build and display. Thanks!

[@miscwork-qb7pd]

Lenovo slim pro 9i if you have the budget for it

[@larrytraber]

surface laptop studio, xps 15

[@cameronbosch1213]

Framework Laptop 16. Though you'll be waiting at least until April 2024 given the large amount of pre orders.

[@sarathharidas8781]

Asus rog flow x13

[@fidelisitor8953]

If your budget can reach, the asus zenbook 14 pro OLED would be an awesome buy. It has the same screen as this hp laptop and comes with an i9 13900h, rtx 4070, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD for $2099. If that's too expensive then the zenbook 14X OLED with the same specs and a 3050ti goes for $1499.

[@shataha124]

Is it possible to install second fan in the empty slot?

[@jeevejavari8461]

I was curious of this as well.

[@voodootrois]

I mean maybe you could hack a fan into that spot, but without radiator fins and a heat pipe going to them the fan won't do any good for the laptop.

[@mahipal-jain]

The 14" Lenovo 7i 16gb one is not on sale on best buy and out of stock on Lenovo site 😢

[@Trusteft]

Soldered RAM, ffs. Otherwise if I had 750 and it was sold for 750, I would buy it. The lower priced Intel ones are of no interest to me for one reason. The far superior RX780M to anything Intel has.

[@chuboasshippo2181]

this is going for 750 before tax right now. do you think itll go lower at all or not

[@Trusteft]

@@chuboasshippo2181 I have no idea how things are there. I try not to follow prices that much any more as I don't have money. Less depressing that way. Everything eventually goes down. Do you need the laptop now? Do you need a laptop? There are mini PCs with same specs for less.

[@AdamsOyifi]

"Supply was in demand" lol

[@timnoneya3158]

I picked it up for $739 Black Friday. So that meets your recommendation.

[@marcfrost1087]

Can get this laptop now for £600, is it worth it?

[@tomsterp1304]

where from

[@falcon3169]

Hp doing Hp things regarding removing the extra fan... That extra fan could have helped push the CPU a bit ...

[@jamescassar5348]

Seeing all those laptops between 1k to 2k with those specs reminds me how I'm right into thinking that the new m3 mbp is severely overpriced. That apple logo is blinding and peopneed to wake up and smell the coffee. 2k for a laptop with 4080 gpu and that display?! Wow!

[@katlee8778]

Wth are you talking about. Apple products are always overpriced. 😂

[@jamescassar5348]

@@katlee8778 I agree but everyone on tech KZbin is drooling over the m3 lately

[@katlee8778]

@@jamescassar5348 those techtubers are shills. Most of them don’t have the best interest of the viewers.

[@jamescassar5348]

@@katlee8778 I got the one plus 8 pro and Galaxy tab s8 ultra off mkbhds recommendations and I wasn't disappointed really, but even other tech channels like dave2d for example recommend the M1 MBA for the average person when it's really bad value for money imo.

[@jamescassar5348]

Let me clarify " wasn't disappointed". Extremely satisfied 😃

[@diskeed]

Excellent comprehensive review. And thx for mentioning the screen reflectivity, useful to know.

[@sjoerdhoogendam7103]

i just got this HP pavilion 14 laptop with 7840u CPU but i am suffering audio problems. audio drops after a few hours and cant get it back for whatever reason. not sure if it is a defect of a driver issue. otherwise it is a great laptop. it seems to have to do with the windows audio service. even installed w11 from USB image (MS direct), reset the device 6x already. Even went to store. (where it worked for then) anyone any suggestion????

[@christine_notchristina]

This looks like a recurring problem with HP laptops then. I bought a budget laptop from HP and within 2 years, i experienced bluetooth and audio-related issues. I tried to fix by updating the drivers and following multiple "solutions" i find online. Even consulted the preloaded HP Health App and whatnot. It's fixed now but i dont remember how. Nevertheless, it was a very confusing issue to deal with. My next laptop (on the way) is a Lenovo Yoga Pro 7i.

[@sjoerdhoogendam7103]

the issue here seems to be related to the Logitech C925e webcam. it makes the audio service of windows crash. Dont get picture either. @@christine_notchristina

[@cameronbosch1213]

This laptop is awesome. The only complaint I have is that OLED screen isn't touch screen!

[@MatthewMoniz]

Ya that would be nice

[@revelfree]

Good thing is there is no visible digitizer that you have on other touch oled panels

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@revelfree Personally, I think if there's no touch screen support, the screen should be matte. Heck, the IPS options on this laptop are matte (anti-glare is a common marketing term for matte)

[@chuboasshippo2181]

@@cameronbosch1213 matte and OLED is such a stupid combo. matte should only be for IPS

[@fidelisitor8953]

@@cameronbosch1213 Matte on OLED is disgusting! It ruins the sharpness and contrast OLED is known for.

[@blueeyednick]

16 gb ram max???

[@Minemango3408]

im kinda confused. isnt 16gb ram good for this kind of laptop? or are there just better similar laptops that have more ram?

[@o.b.a6035]

Bad timing because right now everyone is waiting for the ARM based laptops and don't really care about normal laptops anymore that are not really being mobile because you have to be plugged in to get the best results and that's messed up to begin with

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

Right now arm on laptops only good on macbook , dont even mention windows, cuz windows is still plagued by compatibility issues, extra battery life is not worth compromising apps compatibility, microsoft need a tons of work on arm optimization to make arm on windows a good combo

[@spectre4974]

i can't choose between razer blade 14(2022 with 3070ti) and lenovo loq 15 with (i7 13620h and rtx 4060) they both have same price in here rn

[@trozt4881]

The blade for eternity, build quality is the main point of the choose, and perfomance will be better too

[@spectre4974]

@@trozt4881 yeah there's also 3080ti like 200$ more i like 8 gb more vram but i don't want it melt under heavy games haha

[@BenjaminRodriguezReyes]

Is size, weight and build quality important to you? You'll be sacrificing some screen size with the Blade in exchange for portability. You will also sacrifice some GPU performance and features, the lower wattage 3070 ti in the Razer won't do as well and doesn't support DLSS 3 frame generation so it won't age as gracefully (in a few years when the laptops start struggling with the latest games, frame generation will make more of a difference in keeping new games playable). However, the Blade is a much more premium laptop with likely better fit and finish and more portable. So if performance is most important to you, get the LOQ, if fit and finish, looks and portability are important you can get the Blade.

[@lbenegas]

Had a pavilion dv4 like 12 years ago. Worst piece of plastic and bad electronics I had in my life. Never again a pavilion. All thinkpads from now on.

[@BoRerunn]

In previous years they only offered 120hz displays so I went with a different brand

[@hassanahmad568]

Whats up with these junk laptops with soldered ram, single m.2 slot, poor cooling, subpar performance. I just want light weight 13 inch laptop with decent display, battery and two m.2 slots. Can live with soldered ram on 13 inch laptops.

[@amjadindia7437]

Good review

[@MatthewMoniz]

Thanks!

[@SebWayYT]

So many good deals happening in North America*

[@Kokoawer]

Whos infront of you

[@sklynexd]

It wasn't just best buy sponsored, it was also intel sponsored lol

[@oshakiegittens4887]

Folks just hold out for the Snapdragon Elite X at this point.

[@rojoroj9777]

Rejected for solded ram

[@atom608]

I cant even buy this in NZ. I hate the NZ laptop market.

[@tahsin28]

All the options U showed are worse. They r big and heavy. Therefore cheaper with same specs. U of all ppl Sus know tht the most expensive component of a laptop is it's size n weight.

[@MyronZhao]

What? The Lenovo Yoga 7i is literally thinner and smaller and way cheaper than this HP...pay attention to the video before you criticize somebody 😂

[@tahsin28]

@@MyronZhao um, what about the others?

[@chuboasshippo2181]

@@MyronZhao with a crappy IPS display. 2 in 1s are also heavier than normal laptops

[@jedidiahsteele7847]

The issue was and always will be battery life with windows laptops

[@fxrisxmxli]

Windows laptops is either a hit or miss. Never perfect.

[@wat344]

I have 2 HP pavilion laptops,, such a garbage,, nice aesthetic but bad internal design, get a lenovo or asus instead.

[@CodeHype-Priyanshu]

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[@zoostzoo]

👍👍👍👏👏

[@GD-rq7vl]

First?

[@mevszach]

Notice much PWM on the OLED panel?

[@deadskull888]

Soldered ram? No expansion? No, thank you 🫠