HP Reverb G2 - Everything You NEED To Know

[@matthagge4792]

It's seems HP "gets it". They seem to have really understood what was wrong with the Reverb, and have made all the right design choices and upgrades on this hmd. While HTC is making bewildering design choices and seems lost in their product portfolio, HP seems to have their finger on the pulse of good hmd design and understands that a good hmd is about the details. If HP continues down this path I think they will be the next major player next to Oculus and Valve.

[@lewisveasey1674]

Yeah, my cosmos elite is a pretty good headset but, seriously why couldn't they include base station 2.0s and some actually good controllers.

[@Lord_of_Dread]

@@lewisveasey1674 Probably because they don't own or have any stake in 2.0 or the knuckles controllers. I think those are the least of the issues though. While the elite is really the only reasonable HMD HTC have released since the vive pro, it still has some seriously dodgy things like a tiny sweet spot compared to the competition and even the original vive, light leakage from the flip up design (which was a nice idea in concept admittedly) and worst of all... the pricing is ridiculous. It needed to be far cheaper with all of its issues to be a viable altenative to the index HMD, which is the obvious choice if you can save just a little bit extra.

[@Lord_of_Dread]

Between the lack of lighthouse tracking and the tracking cones on the controllers that will interfere with gameplay, I think they're still not really competitive for gaming. If they fixed both of those, they'd be a dangerous competitor, but as it stands not so much.

[@xalex7923]

@@lewisveasey1674 why you just bought a index for a bit more? bc your choice is actually the most expensive one really...

[@sheeftz]

No they didn't get it. The main issue with Reverb G1 was FOV. And it stayed untouched. It's dead on arrival. I mean it will take a niche, like Reverb G1 did, but it's not next gen. It can't even compete with 1 year old Valve Index.

[@tonygmichael6434]

I love how this channel tells me exactly what I want to know being new to Vr and such,thanks man!

[@tooreosonecup4995]

TonyGMichael yeah, he’s super dope ^.^

[@terrydoescontent2905]

hi twin

[@Nobbie248]

If you haven't got a heafset yet i strongly recommend the quest

[@PaulWitzelNarratives]

@@Nobbie248 I love *heafsets*

[@Nobbie248]

@@PaulWitzelNarratives i love u

[@corem6872]

As more headsets are coming out, I’m getting more and more confused on which to buy

[@swagmaster6922]

Just not this one. WMR is disgusting and the controllers use visible light for tracking, which means that even sunlight fucks it up.

[@toesnub9676]

@@swagmaster6922 what? how in the world is it disgusting? wmr works fine, it's a fantastic budget option

[@literaltoast7213]

@@swagmaster6922 WMR can be found for like 200 usd though

[@Ace-nh4vl]

If you have a high budget go for the index If your budget is low the quest is good because your able to use it as an all in one headset and pc vr headset If you only want to use pc vr and have a low budget go for the rift s

[@-renoboarder-4820]

Ace *rift s

[@fakedeltatime]

"as we know with the Cosmos, the six tracking cameras were useless", savage Mike.

[@TheDarkElk]

I really do hope that this gets wmr farther and more attention from this, ive used my original lenovo explorer for nearly 700 hours and im glad I got one.

[@DeviantDeveloper]

“Fall”? COME ON.

[@NotGoodAtYoutube]

I really can't wait that long

[@mBUSHattack]

I know. I'm struggling so hard between choosing this or an index... both will take forever to come...

[@Nick_H775]

Michael Bush index

[@ThePandaKingFTW]

@@Nick_H775 But almost half the price for a little less fov? Id only go index if budget isnt an issue

[@logiccc]

@@ThePandaKingFTW They also have better controllers and better tracking with the base stations

[@Larry]

It's a shame about the controllers, I was hoping for somethign closer to the index's.

[@bunnypeople]

Apparently you CAN get them to work with the headset, but not natively

[@David-ty6my]

@@bunnypeople but thats expensive, you need not only the controllers, but also lighthouses. In Germany you cant even get a Lighthouse, all sold out, they are 170€

[@jasonmclean7544]

@@bunnypeople what would you have to do to get them to work with the valve index cotrolers?

[@jonast96]

@@jasonmclean7544 mrtv has a video about it, but in general you will need to buy some additional adapters. They are usb connected to your pc so that the vive controllers can communicate with your PC

[@Nuke21]

If this would be your first VR, is it 600 just for the headset and I still need to buy controllers and the track boxes?

[@MarSprite]

I love that you break your video up into named segments, even though I just watch the whole thing. Keep up the good work! =)

[@vincentbrocker8829]

i hope they improve the mixed reality home software

[@Bunster]

Is there no way to make wmr headsets to boot into valve vr?

[@TinyTroglodyte]

@@Bunster it boots in mixed reality home I think, but you can still easily go into Steam VR home, it's just that mixed reality home is kinda bad, like bad enough that I could 3d model the entire house in about 20 minutes as it's super simple looking with a few trees and that's it.

[@Bunster]

@@TinyTroglodyte oof, well hopefully the partnership with Valve will make it possible to boot into Steam VR, or possibly make a better WMR home

[@sleev1091]

I have a Rift CV1 and have been waiting for a competent upgrade ever since. This has me very tempted. Definitely going to wait for the reviews though.

[@silotx]

i would wait for the reviews too but , with the limited vr availability and the huge demand increase it will propable be sold out when the reviews will be out.

[@anthony631]

@@silotx Exactly the demand is so high right now. I think it will stay high going into winter as well. 2020 seems to be a big year for VR and I'm excited!

[@siimoraba2043]

Same here. This is the first new VR headset that makes me consider upgrading from CV1.

[@AshtonCoolman]

Oculus needs to get a Quest 2/S out with higher resolution and refresh rate. I like the Oculus eco system a lot so let's get a headset to match.

[@tehgusbus2716]

I'd insta buy quest with same resolution

[@emperorfaiz]

Don’t forget better graphic quality.

[@RoyHoy]

Likely Spring 2021!

[@Enixious99]

I have a friend who often lets me use his Rift S, and man the FOV, tracking reliability, and 80Hz refresh rate are a constant struggles for us... but the software and home are really nice and there are a lot of fun exclusives

[@Pyrodagoat]

@@emperorfaiz without the need of a pc

[@eisley_lastname]

As a hardcore Bigscreen user, I'm super excited for my preorder to come in! Virtual movie theaters are becoming more and more of a reality every year!

[@Recon777x]

Turns out MS Flight Sim is releasing with VR that is ONLY featuring this specific headset. Which is why I came looking for info on it here. Other headsets will be brought in at a later date.

[@plummetplum]

Booooo

[@frankknarf1989]

Really amazed by how the screen door effect could be eliminated. Price tag is set properly. Really look forward to playing some of the epic PC titles on it.

[@Subhagusbainne]

It’s always a good day when vro uploads

[@jamiealner8904]

True true

[@jeverbever]

Your video editing and hosting skills are phenomenal. Thank you for the effort that you put into your videos!

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Thank you Chipmunk. I really appreciate the comment mate []-)

[@slothsarecool]

seems a bit crazy, if they had foveated rendering you wouldn’t need a 2080, might hold off until something with a wider fov comes along anyway but otherwise it looks compelling

[@Dreamwriter4242]

You got that right now if you want, Pimax headsets have up to 170 degree FOV (200 diagonally). And the upcoming Pimax 8K-X has a higher resolution than this one, at a true 4k per eye. SUBSTANTIALLY pricier though.

[@toadyep2441]

When you're actually in vr, fov difference isn't very noticable. Also, you don't need a 2080, that's just for optimum performance. You could say the exact same thing about a really simple game.

[@Dreamwriter4242]

@@toadyep2441 Totally disagree, double the FOV is extremely noticable, THE virtual world really surrounds you. After using a high-fov headset like Pimax, anything else feels like looking through binoculars

[@thespecialist5023]

@@Dreamwriter4242 Nah Pimax has tons of distortion, bleak colors, crappy software and horrible support

[@AbdallahTeach]

@@thespecialist5023 I don't think the dude disagrees with you

[@jhaybiebasco8529]

I’m much more tempted to get this over the Index than I originally assumed going into this video!

[@RoyHoy]

@Alonso Reyes But you'll need an expensive PC!

[@ELGG1894]

@Alonso Reyes and $1000 laying around on top of the $2000 pc you just bought

[@hallunolla]

I was hyped for the Quest 2. Was.

[@aidenlorello2838]

Nope, I still am. This is a PCVR headset, the Quest sits at its own spot with Hybrid PCVR and Standalone.

[@evilhenchman3366]

@@aidenlorello2838 I agree I honestly think the future of vr is wireless. mark my words quest 2 will be totally wireless and have better hardware.

[@originsdecoded3508]

@@evilhenchman3366 5g intergration into the wireless VR will be the only way to achieve 4k 60fps+ while wireless. even up to 8k resolution per eye. But they will have to mitigate EMF radiation from the 5G frequencies being pumped next to your skull.

[@hallunolla]

@@originsdecoded3508 EMF radiation? 5G is non ionizing. Haha there's more EMF radiation in visible light than in 5G. EDIT: typo

[@openroomxyz]

Yea i am confused if i should get Quest, Rift S, ... idk

[@SustainaBIT]

Mike, I watch your videos silently since long time ago, but I gotta SAY IT HERE AT LEAST once ::: YOU ARE AWESOME!!!

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Thanks mate! I appreciate the comment []-)

[@aelux4179]

Looks like an amazing headset for those wanting an introduction to high-end VR, definitely an upgrade other the quest, just not an Index killer. Without higher precision, lighthouse tracking and improved controllers it wont be viable for the more competitive VR games, but given that it beats all the other options, looks like it's going to be a neat little headset with a solid place in the market.

[@lewisveasey1674]

I got my old Samsung Odyssey plus to work with light house tracking wasn't too difficult to get going. I'd say it had better head tracking than my Vive. The smaller fov is really the only compromise I see with this headset as of yet.

[@pixhammer]

Inside out is more than good enough, i had WMR, and still have friends on WMR that absolutely kick ass on Beat Saber Expert+ the only issue was tracking volume, so now with 4 cameras it's more than good enough. I think the real downgrade from an index is just the non-finger tracking controllers. - I do agree though, this isn't an index replacement, it's a Rift S killer

[@Lord_of_Dread]

Agreed. If you're going to spend this much on VR for gaming, it seems silly to buy anything other than the index.

[@aidangillett5396]

Disagree, as long as they get the inside-out tracking to be on-par with the Rift S performance (that was wonky on launch but got very, very good) and not something utterly dogshite like the Vive Cosmos My favourite controllers are still the Rift CV1's, they are more ergonomic and comfortable than the index controllers, better balanced, nicer feel. They tend to work better as 'game controllers' and not 'pseudo-reality' inputs. At this point in the time the individual finger tracking, variable pressure sensors etc are technically superior but the reality is practically nothing supports it. You can buy straps for the CV1 or RiftS controllers so you can open and close your entire hand if you so wish, but the far lighter/smaller controllers just tend to work better as a daily driver For me the biggest feature of the Index is actually the FoV, I find that is far more noticeable and immersive than the refresh rate or the controllers. If I could i'd get just the headset but stick with the CV1 controllers, unfortunately not possible to do So this Reverb G2 seems to get much closer to my ideals given the controllers seem quite a bit similar, although the battery life of 4-8 hours as opposed to ~35 hours is a bit shit

[@Exccentrik]

I know this comment was made 4 months ago so we have more information now but from what I see the G2 is now the best on the market apart from tracking tech and controllers but you can use the index knuckles with them so I plan on just getting those at a later date, dont mind the lower refresh rate for the much higher clarity

[@brachisaurous]

I like it how this chap reviewed a product without actually using it. Also added some final thoughts. Nice!

[@JPWestmas]

Convince me that the controller tracking is good, I would definitely get this one.

[@alacan]

It is, I have a WMR and it's a really good value

[@TheInfinitySystem]

The tracking is fine. You just have to know how to work with it. Well lit room, avoid mirrors, windows and bright screens. The main troubles with tracking were the 1st generation, which used/required a separate BT dongle. Gen 2 moved to built in BT between the HMD and controllers and things improved MASSIVELY. People also forget that WMR controllers have build in motion sensors in ADDITION to the inside out. The whole "it looses tracking behind my head/shoulder/ect" is BS. I've never found a game that I haven't been able to play. The last 'problem' is just getting decent batteries. Yeah, the controllers will eat AA's... REGULAR AA's won't cut it. Invest in a set of NiZn 1.6v rechargables. They last for DAYS. WMR gets a bad rap because all the Vive Fan Bois are pissed they popped $1k or more for 'brand name' recognition. Hell, the Samsung Odyssey+ still has the best screen on the market, least SDE and deepest blacks due to the OLEDs. You can pick it up for $300 regularly, and it includes far better controllers than the standard WMR. I went WMR with Gen1 (Odyssey original) and just bought the Odyssey+ this year and gave my old O to my son. The only thing that will shift me at this point is a wider FOV.

[@supremebaconoverlord]

if it's like the previous mixed reality controllers then tracking is fine but battery life sucks

[@StubbyPhillips]

@@TheInfinitySystem I'm only buying OLED HMDs from now on. Once you go black...

[@patrykmarciniak9362]

I just can't wait to see what you do with those submission! Great video by the way!

[@atticusnari]

I'll probably end up selling my Rift-S for this thing. I'm hating the Oculus + Facebook integration and am glad for some good competition :)

[@mynews]

Yes that integration sucks. It should be a plus but its not.

[@roflBeck]

Tbh I just use my Rift S as a SteamVR headset. Don't much care for Oculus store. I like the actual hardware though.

[@harmleyten4]

@@roflBeck true same for me, but i would like some resolution bump i might sell my rift s for the hp reverb g2. Now i can still get a good price while there sold out.

[@JustFlightMedia]

I bought my 2nd rift s the other day only to find they are discontinuing them next near. I’m returning it and have just ordered one of these.

[@reddblurr]

These specs are insane... HP still hitting hard with their headsets. I respect it! Can’t wait until we get to the point where we have no lens blur, god rays, or screen door effect with a hefty FOV and HP is definitely pushing the line!

[@awesome9174]

Screen door effect isn't really a thing on Index or Reverb already. We just need higher resolution now for detailed distant sightseeing.

[@petervansan1054]

@@awesome9174 I dont even notice screen door on quest, unless I specifically look for it

[@yusufmatini6414]

my IPD is 72mm and from what I hear it's not really a pleasant experience when your headset cant fit your IPD, not sure if there's a bigger amount of people with high IPDs but since they put a manual adjustment option might aswell consider supporting a wider range.

[@neongensis1]

My IPD is 70 I believe so the Quest just reaches it but incorrect IPD absolutely kills the experience. Kinda bummed to hear I can't get the G2 due to the IPD limitation. I agree you'd think if companies were going to go the physical IPD route they'd have a wider range to be safe.

[@didiodulaw7417]

Just wanted to share my experience with IPD on the Index: I tried adjusting it to the correct value and YES, I found it by just using the slider BUT: incorrect values did not produce an unpleasant experience. Visual quality suffered a little, yes, but not by a lot. I was genuinely surprised, because I thought it would cause more visual distortion or sth. like that.

[@LHokiH]

Oh my god. The line is so cool where you separated intro and other stuff :D

[@ethangoldwyre]

“You’re gonna need a 2080” *sad 1050 ti noises*

[@BubsCC]

Ethan Goldwyre you could still use a 1050ti. Steam can drop the resolution of games.

[@air_]

@@BubsCC bruh then what's the point of such a high resolution headset?

[@Shpongled1738]

@@air_ lets say you have a 2060 like me, you will still get higher res than other vr titles, but not the maximum res

[@BubsCC]

@Air_ you may not have the money yet to get a 1080 or 2000 series. WMR does very well on a 1050ti. (I know because I ran one for a year). If you buy this new headset, a few months of 75% resolution on bigger games would be worth it. Atleast until you save enough for a better card.

[@terrydoescontent2905]

1660?

[@theblowupdollsmusic]

This one is really ticking all the right boxes for me. Right price point. High-resolution displays, No Sceendoor effect, works with steam VR. Nice Job dev team.

[@dennisrichards2540]

If you've not bought into VR yet then fair enough the Reverb G2 is a good start (along with the index) but like many I've already got a Gen 1 Vive and is still an incredible piece of hardware that isn't remotly struggling to keep up with the available software . . . in fact I would say software IS the problem for VR now. The only way I'll spend another penny on VR hardware now is if a reputable company meaningfully increases the FOV over 170 or even better similar to a PiMax or StarVR . . . other than that these Hardware improvements are the equivalent of a face lift to last years SUV to me, it just doesn't offer any futher value

[@Brad.2874]

Only problems I've got with the Vive is the displays, lenses, weight and controllers. Basically everything I want to be good. All the time now we're getting way better hardware for VR at around the same price. I'll wait to see what people say about this headset, but I might end up selling my Rift S to get this, depending on the other hardware available at it's launch. With VR, it is always worth upgrading and getting more immersion. The more immersion you have, the more fun you will have, and the more you will use the headset. Unlike other mediums, the Vive is only going to go down in cost as other better and cheaper headsets arrive on the market. I'd say keeping up with modern hardware is not only better on you, but on your wallet as well, as it allows you to sell your current headset and pick up something 10x better for a few hundred bucks more.

[@dennisrichards2540]

@@Brad.2874 I can agree mostly with what you're saying as all these parameters can obviously be improved (and I'd expect them to have by the time I buy my next headset) but FOV is the best upgrade for better immersion for VR right now. I don't agree however that its always worth upgrading for better immersion as I stated the Vive is still a great bit of kit already, so unless you're primarily playing things that aren't designed for VR (like simulators) then an upgrade likely isn't going to be worth it unless there is a great improvement. To put it into perspective Half-Life Alyx is pretty much the cream of the crop for VR games today, My 4 year old first Gen Vive allowed me to enjoy the game perfectly, if anything I think my GTX970 needs upgreading more than my headset does.

[@kevykevTPA]

I've pre-ordered one, and am hoping for delivery in early December, though I wouldn't complain if it came sooner. My primary motivation/use case is FS2020, which is my new obsession, but I'm quite sure others will follow as well. Cheers to December!

[@equious8413]

WELL!? HOW DID IT GO? I'm in the exact same boat. I've just received this headset and I'm waiting in a graphics card. Primarily gunna use this for flight sim.

[@kevykevTPA]

@@equious8413 When it works it's amazing. But I've got just enough issues (blackouts, 7-14 error, flickering, a few more) that I'm going to try to get it warranty replaced. But aside from those issues (which are not game stoppers) I love it!

[@equious8413]

@@kevykevTPA appreciate the insight! Still waiting on a GPU in the mail, headset next to me, anticipation building. Haha

[@dinkleberg3863]

I remember trying out mixed reality back in university, it was a bit weird but damn I really liked it. Hope this gives the platform a bit more visibility in the public eye

[@awesome9174]

Why was it weird?

[@dinkleberg3863]

@@awesome9174 Just the way i was seeing my surroundings as well as the images from the headset. I was much more used to traditional VR. But either way very cool system and very cool experience.

[@awesome9174]

@@dinkleberg3863 I'm confused. What's traditional VR? Do you mean your previous experience with VR was just mobile VR or PSVR or something?

[@pixhammer]

@@dinkleberg3863 oh sounds like you used the Hololens, Windows Mixed Reality is just what they call their VR stuff for marketting reasons, it's totally nothing like what you tried :)

[@dinkleberg3863]

@@pixhammer oh oops, my bad haha, thank you for the clarification:)

[@humorgep]

Wow, that timestamp indication in the video is great!

[@Nekminute]

LCD, 90Hz and only 114 FOV wow that is like last gen... im dissing it since i owned the valve index and i want to see VR move beyond those specs. 144 hz and a greater fov than 130....

[@VlastimirStankovic]

Hey Mike, this being a consumer headset, there is really no need to be disappointed for the G2 not supporting Lighthouse tracking. One reason for me selling off my Vive was that the lighthouses are a PITA - just like Oculus' camera based system. If you want to have a convenient gaming experience, nothing beats a portable inside-out (SLAM) tracking system. The deficiencies of SLAM (occlusion etc.) is something that game designers should be taking care of.

[@TomBombFR]

I 've been using the Quest + Link to play. It's pretty good, but I really wanted a proper PC VR headset, but all of the ones available right now came with downsides. This seems to tick all of the boxes!

[@gavial1448]

It sure does.

[@Barchueetadonai]

Honestly, Quest with Virtual Desktop is the best.

[@AristotleBabyBottle]

Barchueetadonai it’s bad for recording because it is shakey

[@gamingfreako7480]

Almost. Inside out tracking would be nice since I really wanted to get into full-body tracking. Oh well. I'm not dropping $1000 for an index and then even more money to get the full body.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Great video, very polished and to the point. Many thanks

[@r1pperduck]

"In collaboration with valve" ...no index controllers... I was looking forward to more than the awesome speakers, feelsbadman

[@wolvzie172]

VRShenanigans nope it said in the video it has to have base station support for it so it’s only able to really connect to vive headsets since they use base stations

[@wolvzie172]

they should just allow the support cos the controllers are way too expensive to put with a mod range headset

[@frankmario6747]

Does the new controller touch sensitive like on the rift ? I can see the copied a LOT on the rift controllers (same exact grip & grip button) but it's not a bad thing since a LOT of poeple praise Rift controllers including me.

[@r1pperduck]

@@firewulf1 i mean the kit would be sure, but the index is also only 5 or 6 hundred without the base stations and controllers.

[@brickman409]

@@wolvzie172 you can buy base stations separately and get the index controllers to work with headsets that don't natively support lighthouse tracking. I believe it's been done with other headsets before, but it's really expensive and clunky, at that point you might as well just buy an Index.

[@martinbaker2322]

I've pre-ordered, pretty much based on forum recommendations. The game I'm really looking forward to trying it with is Flying Circus, a game with WW1 combat planes. This will be my first VR experience other than maybe 15 minutes, a few years back, with the set of a guy I knew. I'm hoping release won't happen too late in the fall.

[@jahblo666]

I believe you will be impressed.. never heard of this game thou :D

[@martinbaker2322]

@@jahblo666 If you're a bit of a history buff and are drawn to WW1 fighter planes, give it a look! The people who did Flying Circus also have a four-or-so WW1 fighter simulator called "Rise of Flight" and that one is completely free. It's falling behind with stuff like VR but it's still very good.

[@jahblo666]

@@martinbaker2322 yes, will do..it looks pretty interesting, thanks for the tip

[@Vortex31415]

This is awesome. Definitely purchasing when available.

[@caydenc2591]

Daniel Karinen when are they available cause I’m planning on getting a quest

[@arz700]

Legend Fall

[@richardung1840]

Great video dude! Very informative. Much appreciated.

[@justwhytho9516]

Man I’m still just going to get an index

[@LaLogic2]

o k

[@KaiFulci]

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[@KaiFulci]

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[@tacocat9916]

same

[@foxyman4136]

I would get the index but I prefer no wires over something that reads a palm as a finger

[@professorpiggos]

If the next Oculus Quest (Pro/2) doesn't have Display Port Alt Mode Input for Link, this will definitely be the headset I buy.

[@caffeinecreature]

Well, with Oculus no longer being an option this might just be the headset to go for.

[@ELGG1894]

Oculus is an option, actually.

[@TheGunterGlieben]

Lucky for us, Facebook (and oculus), are optional now.

[@vincentkeith5259]

This sounds like it'll be nearly perfect for Sim Racing. Don't have to worry about controllers, high res enough, lightweight, and your ears won't turn into yet another pressure-point sweatbox. Not getting 120Hz is a disappointment. A wider FOV would have been nice but 110 seems to be fairly standard and I haven't heard many complaints (then I've only been seriously looking at VR for a few months). Figuring out some way to get this to work with Lighthouse tracking for controllers would be the ultimate upgrade. If you can use all the various Sim controllers - wheels, pedals, shifters, joysticks, throttles, button boxes, etc. - there ought to be a way to get Lighthouse controllers & sensors to work standalone. What is it about Index controllers and Lighthouse sensors that prevent them from being used without the headset? Just product differentiation? I suppose it could kill the market for the Index.

[@dl6216]

You need to do a vid on the effect of Covid-19 on VR...i ordered a Rift S on 22nd March and was delayed to 22nd April,...Now still delay further to 17th June and that's not even guaranteed due to stock availability

[@DreamsDiabolic]

I feel you. Wanted an Index but it currently has a 16 week wait due to the Covid crisis. I instead bought a Vive Pro, bought it and had it delivered in 5 days. Love the headset with no regrets. Going wireless with it also beats the Index.

[@roboslobonator]

Yes, I'm really curious how/if hp will pull off even the initial pre-orders of this considering all other manufacturer's delays.

[@wessamlauf]

just to understand better ... im using HP Omen 15 2017 I think, gtx 1060 4GB and i5 ...I'm looking into vr for some time but those specs prob arent enough, right?

[@joshuacook2]

Okay, definitely seems like the long awaited, strict upgrade over the rift I have been waiting for, but I'll wait to see reviews. I'm a little disappointed that it didn't go for a wide fov like 125 degrees, or a higher frame rate. But it is for sure looking like the headset to recommend. I might wait another year though, especially considering I only have a 1080. But if my rift dies, it looks like I have a replacement.

[@midnightwalker4642]

I have used a CV1 since it came out. Loved it, but the honeymoon was over a while ago. Now, 4 years later, I need the next big thing in VR to reel me back in. Technology has not improving as fast as I hoped. But I can't keep using the CV1. So it's either the Reverb G2 with (supposedly) screen door effect eliminated, or it's the Valve Index with modest improvements to SDE, FOV and refresh rate. I will get whichever one works well with iRacing.

[@ihasgoose8933]

so I am getting a oculus quest but I check oculus for the first time and they where sold out, 10 minutes later I got one so is that luck or good timing?

[@patrykmarciniak9362]

luck, mate.

[@ahphodg260]

I would recomend wait fo the Quest2. My main complaint is that its very front heavy and bulky also the procesign power is really outdated as of now. The quest is the future of VR if they manage to improve on it.

[@silvercloudj]

Don’t wait for a Quest 2. With the pandemic and everything going on, it’s better to get the Quest now and sell it when the 2 comes out (Since I’m sure the Quest will be out of stock for a bit!)

[@DizzleMX32]

that welcome is your own intro no one else has XD love the videos they help alot keep it up

[@stuff2watchnowmaybe]

honestly I can't see headsets taking off that require a pc. The quest and link, "switch style" headset is the way forward. I love the idea of being able to plug the quest into my laptop for higher quality experiences, but then unplug it for bringing it to friends and parties.

[@user-zy7xy8sf9o]

stuff2watchnowmaybe laptops for vr are not going to perform very well

[@stuff2watchnowmaybe]

@@user-zy7xy8sf9o agree but that's all I have at the moment lol. Although the blade 15 (1060) has performed surprising well. Personally I'm happy as long as the game runs with stable FPS. Once the headset is on me I'm immersed and i don't mind the visual quality. Of course a desktop will perform better but I need the laptop for work for mobility. One day after I stop moving from house to house, I'll hopefully have the pc to drive top quality vr.

[@matthagge4792]

While I wholeheartedly agree that the Quest form-factor is the future of VR, I just don't think it's the present. Until mobile chipsets are powerful enough, or remote-rendering is viable enough, then PC HMDs will remain at the top of the stack when you're looking for the best experience. However I can't wait for the day, and the product, that changes that paradigm.

[@originaltrilogy1]

@@matthagge4792 But if you can connect the new Quest to the PC anyway, then there is no reason a new Quest can't be as featured as any other PC HMD.

[@Peterdeskater100]

Nicely detailed and complete overview of this new headset's features

[@ksiyaskid]

After 4 years I'm officially at the reccomend level for gaming, lol. Now I have an excuse to blow 1300 on a 3080ti.

[@aoliravioli]

ok 😐 didn’t really care

[@memesnob8883]

@@aoliravioli shutit

[@Kin-bd2vd]

Y a y

[@Navhkrin]

You mean 3090

[@finn5888]

Mike I just wanted to let you know you are the reason I got into VR and the reason I now have a oculus quest

[@gavial1448]

Thanks

[@B00h44]

still waiting for amazon to send me my rift s :( by the time I get it I'll be ripe for a museum.

[@HoldenRiot]

Brand new to VR (Do not yet own one). Should I get the Quest or wait for the HP Reverb G2?

[@Adrian-gf9xx]

Depends on what you want. If you want to use your VR set anywhere and don’t mind they graphics then quest. But if your like me and only want to use a VR set at home and have the best performance i can get. Then wait

[@ElgarL]

Yay for removable batteries. Built in batteries make the controller a consumable/disposable item and Its the main reason I didn't bite the bullet and buy an Index.

[@andrewwexler4779]

?

[@ElgarL]

@@andrewwexler4779 When the Index controller sits for a while and the battery dies its not a replaceable item. You leave it for a few months of no use, come back and it no longer takes a charge, the whole controller is now junk. Replaceable batteries means you get the full use from your controller as long as it physically lasts.

[@-renoboarder-4820]

ElgarL yah but just like most things with an internal battery, you can usually get the same battery online and replace it yourself. I have no experience soldering but after a couple videos, a $5 soldering gun off eBay, and a $10 battery, I replaced the battery in my Astro A50s pretty easily.

[@awesome9174]

@@ElgarL That's not really a problem unless you plan on keeping the controllers for 10 plus years or something lol

[@ElgarL]

I do. I expect my purchases to last as long as the materials they are made out of can last. These (index) controllers cost more than most people pay for their mobile phones but are basically disposable when the battery is internal and not designed to be replaced.

[@toshibavoodoo]

Love the time stamp, as usually GREAT WORK!

[@noahbeep3426]

Background music in this video is pretty great

[@Cadonious]

So I have an hdmi port on my gaming laptop but it does not have USB 3.0 port. would this pcvr headset work for me?

[@beckettbrown7070]

i was gonna get a rift s but i think this might be my next headset

[@eptik2k]

this headset brings nothing new to the table just buy the oculus quest and use a oculus link cable to pc or buy the valve index also you could wait for oculus quest 2 tba soon

[@diskdrive6113]

Or the Samsung odyssey plus

[@originaltrilogy1]

@@eptik2k Unless you want the much, much higher resolution and lack of SDE on the HP.

[@starmole5000]

You're a good lad Mike. With a strong name.

[@matthiasice]

Well, they lost me by maxing the IPD at 68. I'm at 69/70 IPD

[@tombutts919]

Same here

[@ezzahhh]

I'm at 56 lol

[@brucelongdog]

yup.....I'm a human too!

[@jerryhatfield1404]

The sweet spot where the lens gets a clear image on the G2 is very large. I'm sure that it will work for 69 and 70 great. You can order it and return it if it gives you issues.

[@firemj6761]

I like how he added the steps and shows what steps there are

[@joshuarogers3918]

Honestly, the reverb g2 seems very good for its price, and I think oculus might be beat.

[@impracticalKim]

It's at least going to be some competition.

[@supremebaconoverlord]

Not sure because of the minimum system specs. Some people like myself would have to upgrade their PC. Even my Gaming laptop which I bought in 2018 doesn't meet the specs. Video card and Ram do but not the processor which is an i5. It will probably sell well to the hardcore VR enthusiasts who can't afford an index. Like mentioned if the Battery is the same then that would suck. Had to replace them like every other day sometimes daily on my Lenovo Explorer. If it cuts out in the middle of a game I would sometimes have to go through the room setup again because it sometimes doesn't detect the controller anymore after replacing the batteries. Still though I'll wait for reviews before I upgrade and take the plunge.

[@Barchueetadonai]

How does this beat Oculus? The Quest is still better in so many ways that I honestly don't think it would be worth getting this even if priced the same as the Quest due to how good the tracking is and how good Virtual Desktop has gotten.

[@nathaniellong4281]

I'd love to get into VR, but my ipd is a cursed 55. I looked everywhere for a headset that could fit, watched multiple videos, read multiple forums, even contacted and asked companies like Oculus and Valve directly. The only one that was not insanely expensive and could fit me was the HP Reverb. I was going to buy one, but then priorities changed. Now I want to buy again, and when I heard there was now a Reverb G2, I was hopeful. And then I watched this video.

[@rinkumultani6515]

Naaaaaa if it was 150ish fov with same display i would have called it dream headset. Waiting for next gen again

[@MaaZeus]

If it had the same displays stretched over wider FOV then it would look like crap, SDE everywhere. You need more horizontal resolution, which then requires more GPU horsepower and this is already pretty power hungry. If you want something similar but wider FOV then Pimax 8KX is what you want. It has the same vertical resolution as Reverb but bigger horizontal res and much wider FOV.

[@rinkumultani6515]

​@@MaaZeus valve index have lot less res and have wider fov people say its the best headset. so even if its was 130 or 150 fov i think it would have better res then index after stretching the display

[@anthony631]

I'm ready to roll! I have my preorder in and will be coming from a Rift S. I'll likely keep both but I bet I will end up in the Reverb G2 much more. Great video thanks!

[@pompommania]

Byebye Faceculus, hello HP Reverb.

[@rascuvalentin]

Finally a worthy sucessor to my cv1 , cant wait to see if the screendoor is finally gone.

[@WikiPeoples]

Why wasn't the Index a worth successor?

[@Zenroy]

@@WikiPeoples lol because its very expensive

[@rascuvalentin]

WikiPeoples too expensive for what it is and not in my range, im excited for the no screendoor claim, a thing ive been waiting since i first bought my rift headset only kit.

[@WikiPeoples]

@@rascuvalentin Fair enough!

[@montanazh]

I was hoping for an fov about 140 so I'll skip this one

[@blindsay]

Watching the video at first and I'm like 'Ill stick with my Index' but i didn't think until you said it as an option for someone who maybe is looking at a Rift S but wants something a little better. While I love the lighthouse tracking of my Index I can appreciate the inside out tracking for its convenience, especially for less tech savy folks. The promise of no SDE is interesting as well. I don't see myself replacing the index anytime soon as a lot of checkboxes would need to be checked to beat it. Resolution/FoV/SDE/Refresh rate/Controllers/Tracking/Audio. There are some headsets that might beat the index in a single category but it does a very good job at all of them.

[@genshin.sonata]

Everyone gangsta, till the minimum to run this headset is GTX 1080, well, i'll pass

[@jacooosthuizen3593]

i can run it. suck it peasant xD

[@psistorm04]

I guess it's just the raw numbers. You need hardware beefy enough to push 90 fps on those 2160x2016 per eye displays, that's a lot of pixel pushing

[@verbosi7y275]

There will probably be an option to lower the resolution in the future.

[@TheBaldr]

At $600, if you aren't even running a RTX 2060 why are you even thinking this is an option?

[@connor.77]

@@TheBaldr would a 2070 suffice? I'm in need of a new cpu and prob some more ram, but I not gonna upgrade my gpu for atleast another 3 years.

[@iglooom]

Wow, timestamps/chapters now inside timeline, nice.

[@sydnergi]

That moment when you don’t have a gaming computer

[@gavial1448]

@Alonso Reyes wtf?

[@aledrinker666]

PKCell 1.6V NiZn rechargeable AAs are the batteries I have found work best across WMR and Oculus controllers. They have a tendency to go from low battery warning almost immediately to empty, but the runtimes of about 8 hours per charge is worth it.

[@Miller6616]

"Wilcome to thee owasis"

[@Hyperiotic]

wait, so is all the tracking for this in the headset? you don't need external stands?

[@legendarytr1bal]

Correct. (Edit: That's also why it is incompatible with the Index Controllers)

[@ricardosendes776]

i hoped it was an index 2.0, but its kinda different, there are some points that really make me not buy this, only inside out tracking and the controllers for example. but i can really see this headset being used by the sim Racing community alot, since they care more about visual clarity than refresh rate. The price caught me off guard, i thought it would be more expensive than the index, but 400$ cheaper is quite amazing, i can see myself recommending that headset to alot of people! Great review VRO

[@hunterm.moreno4201]

I think the slightly lower FOV is completely worth it considering it's almost $700 less than the competition. I think it's overall amazing and is really pushing VR headset price drops. Yes, sometimes the tracking will glitch when directly above your head, but how often do games require that? All equal trade-offs, in my opinion, for these high-quality screens.

[@inactive75464]

also congrats on 270k!

[@MorgBallEntertainment]

I can't wait to get one of these

[@JacobTorres]

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[@JacobTorres]

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[@JacobTorres]

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[@JacobTorres]

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[@JacobTorres]

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[@jedimindtricks323]

This is very exciting news, thank you for your time and research.

[@kapt980]

Fresh Quest user here. It was waaay beyond my expectations :D this is sooooo fun. Vader Immortal was...DAAAAAAANG

[@mikuzi7035]

Oasis, I have one question why is gtx 1080 the minimum gpu for this? because valve index and everything else has gtx 1060 as minimum.

[@mazufun]

Because of the higher resolution of g2.

[@ohletsgothatsclass9295]

It is only the recommended card, if I remember correctly. A 1060 should be fine

[@mikuzi7035]

@@mazufun Okay, thanks for answering!

[@NGC008]

Wow! You pack a lot of info into a small package. Important info I have not seen in other videos including the optional custom eye lens for wearer of glasses. Didn’t know they existed! Great news for me as I wear glasses for driving. I also learned a lot more besides so thanks fo sharing.

[@twilson348]

To use a Reverb G2 for gaming, is an internet connection always required? For example, when playing a stand alone game that has VR support, is Steam VR required. I would like to be able to travel with my set-up (G2 and laptop) and not require a network connection.

[@GNPfr]

I love vro helped me pick my vr headset and btw congrats on 270k I watched you since 12k

[@elcardioreef8491]

Can we use base stations instead of tracking with the camera?

[@RTAMOTORSPORTS]

Everyone keeps saying that the headsets available for pre-order but yet on their website there is no mention of to pre-order this headset and I'm in the US...

[@anthony631]

It's up now. They must have had issues the first day. I was able to preorder yesterday.

[@BigDawgCleveland]

In a Flight Sim are the hand controllers even a needed feature?

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Not necessarily. You could use a HOTAS []-)

[@ericslingerland5472]

so when I clicked on the video I was 100% sure youtube had it listed as an Eric for President video. the intro really threw me. just to clarify, not disappointed

[@psistorm04]

As someone who's bought into the rift s, this might just be my upgrade since I found the rift to be somewhat lacking, and the oculus software to not really play all that nice with steamvr either. Had major trouble running both while doing pcars 2 in vr until i disabled the steamvr overlay since the two were fighting somehow. Higher res, bit more refresh rate, IPD slider.. this might be my next headset and get me back into VR more actively

[@AdmiralBison]

I will not be upgrading from my 2016 HTC Vive until standards of Field of view is at least around 200 degrees in the majority of headsets. So it maybe a few more years. Also VR treadmills to solve locomotion with moving treads, not "slip and slide", lift legs in one place would be a massive part of the whole immersion VR. Yaw motion simulator has essentially solve the seated, driving, flying of VR with reasonable prices, functionality and features.

[@TheRexTera]

I think the lack of trackpad on the controllers might be a problem in games that doesn’t support WMR. If a game has comparability with SteamVR movements usually is defaulted on the trackpad. If I play Doom VFR it uses both the analogue sticks and the directional controllers on my Odyssey. Analogue for smooth movement and turning, directional keys for dash and teleportation. Wonder how that would work with WMR controllers without the trackpads and directional keys.

[@spencinator1616]

“No compromises” -Only 90hz -Only 114FOV (Same as last model and lower than Index) -Worse controllers, probably can’t buy headset separate from them for knuckles use So this is basically Valve Index Lite / S. Price is nice at least.

[@anon515]

the resolution is the best part, and no screen door effect

[@sheeftz]

@@anon515 Resolution and SDE wasn't an issue in G1 as well. Basicly G2 is a good update for G1 and nothing more. It's no near next gen in any aspect. Only good for the price and that's it.

[@spencinator1616]

Veridian that is true

[@ELGG1894]

Well most people dont have 1000 dollars laying around for a new toy

[@gaiadrazer]

8:49 the “6 cameras were useless.” Much savage

[@ayaUwU]

How is this video has like parts and titles??? This is amazing!