HPA Converted Sig Sauer MCX Rattler Canebreak - Quality from Japan!

[@milnetuk]

Best review ive seen on this rifle, thanks Roy

[@zubysan]

Thanks so much Roy. Really appreciated:)

[@Johnson1281]

Just got my conversion today for my Canebreak, and I'm glad I did!!! I'm running 8.4 grain crosman destroyers thru my gun while getting one inch groups at around 30 yards. Maintenance is a very important factor when keeping an airgun happy.. you must clean, oil, and make sure you have quality optics if you're going to dial in for a true accuracy test😉. Most pellet gun owners lean towards lead, and not lead-free pellets...in which will dirty up your barrel and breech faster than you know. This is not good for rifled barrels😏. Also make sure you find a true projectile that your airgun tends to show it's most consistent accuracy, without sacrifice of muzzle velocity (= FPE) and a FPS in flight. Heavier weight in pellets tend to have more kinetic energy upon impact of a target, but if you don't have the power to push them accurately past 40 yards while maintaining FPS in flight...in my opinion is pointless in using them. Find your happy medium, and you can achieve an accurate airgun. Lighter pellets move faster, but without the right aerodynamics of your projectile.....you loose stability quickly in flight. HPA conversion is the way to go though, and yes the Canebreak has the same exact Internals as the Virtus. You're welcome 😊

[@funwiththeandersons8961]

I had the Mpx on hpa and it worked great but it has more power and does work way better on co2

[@zubysan]

I heard same, so I may turn back to C02 to compare

[@brorjordas1979]

Way cool video! I was actually loading up my belts for my Virtus while going thru Canebrake videos..🤣 Got an old co2 MCX and a Virtus myself. Love both rifles. Would now want a Canebrake also. After buying the Virtus and an adapter for 88g co2 cartridge threads, I could now "go HPA" directly with the Canebrake. I have not bothered with my MCX though - since it has no large plenum for efficient use of air - but I kinda think this Canebrake do have it as is already. The old MPX/MPXs had sucha thin transfer gasline that it seems to affect easily the airflow and not always cock the rifle between shots. Maybe higher pressure would help with that - but I have not tried it out even my Virtus' airtank gives now out about 1400psi/95bar. I did have a longer firing pin on my co2 MCX once. Shot way badass - but only for about 15 shots or so (using a 12g cartridge and adapter (30rds max shotcount per cartridge)) - then the co2 cooled down and the power started dropping fast. As new my co2 MCX shot about 8 magazines worth with one 88g cartridge. No idea though how many shots this Canebrake shoots with a 88g cartridge..

[@simonnoble7589]

Lol Greetings my friend ? How are you ?

[@brorjordas1979]

@@simonnoble7589 Greetings! I'm all good! Just watched thru a new GTA Grip review video of the Walther Reign.. How are you?

[@simonnoble7589]

@@brorjordas1979 iam not bad thank you. Got the heating here , house is cold . Hope you're keeping warm . Talk soon 😎

[@brorjordas1979]

@@simonnoble7589 Yea. Getting slightly chillier out at nite by every day that passes by. I do warm up every evening. Been burning firewood to save on heating oil costs.

[@simonnoble7589]

How are you today ?

[@verdeboyo]

Superb review Sir👍🏻👍🏻👊🏻 In 2025 how is this Sig going? No issues at all and as reliable now as then? I'm looking at buying the Canebrake CO2 too. Many thanks in advance👍🏻

[@zubysan]

Hi. Thanks for the comment. The HPA kit is ok in short bursts; just don’t fill it and expect it to hold air for months on end. There is a specific Canebreak now made which is designed for HPA and compressed air as opposed to C02; if you’re thinking of getting one I’d opt for that

[@rickklingenstein8752]

The 90 gram Co2 cartridge will give Ya around 250 shots. I love my mcx rifle.

[@airriflevermincontroluk5027]

Hi, thanks for sharing. Looks like a great plinking rifle. Did you manage to compare the accuracy of co2 to the HPA bottle?

[@cpitrolo]

Something to tuck away in the back of your mind: when reverting back to CO2, you might find that accuracy improves. I read on another channel that the internals are tuned to be optimal with pressures provided by CO2, even though they work with HPA. Just a thought. Nice review! Carry on...

[@alanmullock381]

Definitely a fun-gun matey,time to get inventive with the targets!😀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎

[@zubysan]

For sure! Any suggestions welcome 🤔🤔🤔

[@babz537]

Can it break glass bottles and from how far?

[@raymondmorton1397]

I have a SIG Sauer cranebrake myself but it didn't come with the HPA tank. Could you tell me what I will need to buy , like do I need to get a adapter and HPA tank or when I order the HPA tank will the adapter come along with it?

[@SendItVibes]

not sure where this person got their kit, but- airgundepot has a kit from air venturi (air-venturi-13-cu-in-hpa-tank-stock-adapter-combo)

[@raymondmorton1397]

@@SendItVibes thanks bill

[@zubysan]

I take it you’re US based? You can get the conversion kits from Air Venturi or Pyramid Air. Or look on EBay as I’m sure there’s suppliers on there selling them. Be warned though as it does add weight to the rifle and also extends the rear out making it harder/less comfortable to shoot from the shoulder, at the cost of converting it to PCP and saving money on 88g C02 or even 12g C02 ( but you’ll need to buy the converter I showed for that)

[@artmercado1735]

were did you purchase the case

[@oldsteamer4251]

hi nice review ,i see in the box there is a walther 2x 12 gram addaptor ,did you try it ? as walther says it wont fit that gun , i have the mcx ,and my addoptor would not fit , would not quite screw in far enough , so as it was a new gun if i opened up the hole on the gun ,warrenty gone ,so i turned about 20 thou of the radius on the adaptor on a lathe ,works fine like this ,i pefer the co2 so i can use the stock with the gun ,as short arms ,hpa is to long ,, i think in the states they have had a lot of probs on hpa ,but they seam to run at 1250 psi ,for power ,not the std 850 psi we use ,loads of problum vids on the tube ,,i think the virtus has a p,i,t,a, trigger ,so its not clased as semi auto , this one is just pull as fast as you like ,downside is co2 freesze , keep up the reviews ,self purchase ,honest reviews , just use mine close ish range 25 / 30 yard plinking with a 2x red dot ,, the guns fine and good fun for that , cheers fella

[@Itslegitman]

can you field strip it? how do you preserve it?

[@DeeCee-123]

Great video buddy! If you ever wanna sell this set up, I’ll happily buy it from you 👊🏼

[@dcpatters0]

Cracking review and feedback. Do you find whilst the HPA bottle is connected, it's a bit awkward shouldering the rifle? I have yet to transition to HPA. Also, what is the HPA output pressure configured at for your bottle? Air Venturi has a kit regulated at 1100 PSI output. If I recall, a CO2's output pressure is in the ~800 PSI range, depending on ambient temperature.

[@SendItVibes]

Not a bad review at all. Couple of things, some advice you didn't ask for, so take it for what it's worth to you. The HPA conversion will offer a higher consistency with a lower deviation across the shot string/magazine. Also, it won't freeze the internals when dumping mags like a co2 version will. The flip-up sights that came with this weapon from Sig Sauer are great out to 75 yards but I wouldn't recommend this weapon for any range past that. This is perfect for "close-combat" drills, typically ranges between 10-30 yards. This is designed by Sig Sauer to be an exact replica of the firearm version, length, weight, everything is the same with the exception of the size of the magazine. If you are going to mount a scope or any type of optics to this weapon I would suggest a simple reflex sight or a laser. Looking through a scope limits your field of view unless you are a seasoned shooter using both eyes open looking through the scope for target acquisition and then closing one quickly for the kill shot. The suppressor is placed there to simulate the weight distribution on the firearm version. Try not to forget, while very fun to shoot and capable of doing a little damage, this is generally considered a "training tool" for the firearm version, as are most of Sig's "air-arms division" weapons. The little silver "key" included with the weapon from Sig Sauer is used to seat the ammo, adjust windage, adjust elevation on the supplied sights, which are moderately accurate when dialed in correctly. Last but not least is the ammo you are firing. Try to put various weights through it and see what kind of results you get. You'll find the cheaper the ammo, for whatever reason, the more accurate it is coming out of that weapon. Also, not sure if you were resting the weapon for your shot strings on that paper, but, if you were standing or firing from the shoulder, your grip choice will actually decrease your accuracy as it off-centers your lead hand on the weapon. While it looks great, using a tactical grip takes lots of rounds of experience to really hone in your accuracy. I would remove it and go with either a vertical grip/bi-pod or no grip at all and a good 70/30 hold as far out on the weapon as you can comfortably get your arm. 70% of your grip under the weapon and on the side, 30% (mostly your thumb) over the top of the weapon. This will allow you to move the weapon quickly from target to target AND stop on target quickly to fire. Good luck to you, keep on shootin'! #SendItVibes

[@zubysan]

Thanks for the very detailed comments. Really appreciate your insight. I shot rested to get those groups and I’m still as young say finding my way with this rifle. It’s definitely a close range tool and I love the realism in weight and feel. I wish the mags had the same level of realism rather than the cheap plastic approach used. Also the conversion to HPA means I save on 88g CO2, but st the cost of the extended rear ended, which isn’t as comfortable nor easy to shoot from from the shoulder, but I’m sure practice will breed familiarity and perfection. Thanks again and please keep posted to the channel. Really appreciate detailed insights from experts and enthusiasts such as yourself :)

[@iwillshameyou2036]

Can I have details on the picatinny rail underneath length width etc please

[@zubysan]

I brought this mlok set of 3 from Amazon and added the longest rail: 3 Packs Aluminum M-L-o-k Picatinny Rail, 5 Slot 7-Slot 13-Slot Lightweight M-L-o-k Picatinny Rail Section Accessories for M-L-O-K Compatible System www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07W3SCJ14/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_5X59SVC33E4GR9QJ9QAE?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[@marksmith8421]

30mm w 15 inches long

[@mischiefincproductions2533]

Do you have your tank connected at all times? And if so, do you fill the tank while it is connected to your rifle? I have the conversion and it is always a pain to disconnect and connect the tank every single time, I’m afraid to store it while the tank has air in it.

[@bensykes5830]

hey dude you have the scope mount on the wrong way around 😉

[@zubysan]

Lol! I know. By putting it on backwards it allowed me to bring the position of the scope right back so I could get the eye relief, because the HPA kit adds extension to the rifle at the rear end.

[@iwillshameyou2036]

Is there a weaver rail under the barrel where you have the grip of Is that an additional extra you have had to add for the grip Many thanks

[@iwillshameyou2036]

Sorry just seen you added itb

[@zubysan]

Hi. Yes I added the extra picatinny via M-l-o-c

[@godfreywashington3269]

You can find mlok (magpul designed) foregrips. They will mount directly to the mlok slots. To use standard equipment, you'll need an mlok rail, which is a section of picatinny rail that mounts to the mlok and let's you mou t attachments to it.

[@thedoylemeister]

Great video mate, I've just picked up a Canebrake so will definitely look into the HPA conversion. Quick question - does that dual 12g Walther adaptor work with rifle? I'd read elsewhere that with the other Sig variants (MCX/MPX) they wont fit without some fettling of the cartridge port on the rifle? I assume Vector Air sold that with the rifle so I am hoping it fits without issue on the Canebrake 🤞🏻

[@zubysan]

I did buy this from VA but did the HPX conversion straight away. I’m thinking of trying the C02 on it; if I do I’ll Give you an update

[@brorjordas1979]

The adapters truly at least had their issues also. Two different designs of the dual Walther adapter exists - and one of them did not fit certain old MCX/MPXs. Hell! My old MCX did not even accept newer versions (©2015) of the Umarex' 88g co2 cartridges!🤣 The older ©2011 models of UX 88g co2 cartridges had a longer neck and threading. I had to open the rear receiver hole just to even shoot my MCX rifle with co2 for the first time back in 2016 or so..😂 But I guess these newer issues of Sig rifles has gotten some small changes to accept the new adapters etc..

[@shroombud13]

Hi can anyone on here tell me if the Sig Sauer MCX Rattler Canebreak has the same problems as the Sig Sauer MCX, are the internals the same? I will be buying my first one next week so want to know witch one to get, ty

[@brorjordas1979]

This Canebrake is internally related to the Virtus. Same receiver blocks even used. Better than the old co2 MCX and MPX. I own the old MCX, the Virtus - and now my Canebrake oughta come home today.😁

[@kuvaaja1384]

​@@brorjordas1979Hello! May I ask you if your Virtus still works after a year? Thinking about getting one but worried about quality...

[@sickduck66]

I NEED HELP GUYS so last year I got an MCX and converted it to hpa using a venturi adapter with a ninja tank and it works great!! BUT.. every time I fire I have to pull the charging hammer to shoot again. Any idea why?

[@zubysan]

Sorry Chris. Don’t know what it could be. Have you tried to revert back to C02 to see if that resolves it or if the problem still occurs? If so it’s the rifle issue. If not it’s an issue with the MCX using compressed air opposed to C02

[@sickduck66]

@@jantelow thank you boss I will definitely look into this and give it a shot

[@rmoreno6014]

I had this gun. It was great fun. Sig Sauer Air guns are very cool looking, very nice pellet replica's of thier real life firearm counterpart. Unfortunately, they lack severely in power. Never shooting more than 350 to 385 FPS. So not fun. It gets pretty old shooting cans at the power. I eventually tried different options, I tethered off a larger air tank, and removed some shims from the valve stem, to give it 1150 p,s.i and still couldn't get it above 400 fps on a good day, even with the increase in psi. It did give out on me after shooting it for about 3 days , the valving just is so weak, it couldn't handle it. Returned it for another thinking maybe it was just that particular gun, nope, 2 days of shooting, and the valves pooped out on me once again. After that I purchased a real PCP air gun, and never looked back at any non PCP bb or pellet gun again. That's my take on this gun. Weak, LOw powered teen toy. Sorry mate, not bagging on you or your fun with it. Have a great one!

[@zubysan]

You're right, its a plinker at the end of the day. Not designed for long distance and target, and especially with the HPA kit, its good for shorter range targets and tin cans

[@romyalanes5958]

how much that sir?

[@AJ-ww1ef]

Can you remove the air bottle while its full?

[@zubysan]

With this HPA kit, yes you can

[@capolean2902]

do these take metal bbs?

[@zubysan]

Hi there. I haven’t tried because the I think the barrel is rifled and not smooth bore, which means bbs would damage the interior.

[@jeremycoignet1844]

Bonjour Je possède la mcx sig sauer et je suis déçu. 2 fois en réparation sous garantie... J attends son retour et je souhaite pouvoir tirer avec sans problème

[@heartofwolf6866]

Nice 🤙

[@zubysan]

Thanks for the visit!

[@davidsong5315]

Lol break it yet?

[@andrewallen2999]

Want a masterful tip on the Sig Sauer MCX and related rifles? Take your money and throw it in a fire. They look and feel and actually shoot really well, right up until they don't. Thi E innards ofthis system are cheap and shitty and Sig KNOWS it, and does nothing to fix it or remedy the issue. Junk. I got about 800 pellets out of my .177 MCX and she quit. Using only premium pellets at the prescribed weight, Sig's 90 gram C02 and was impressed until the thing shit the bed like everyone said it would. Oh sure! They'll warranty the rifle, and hereplacement will fail in the same way.

[@marksmith8421]

Ur scope is backwards rookie

[@zubysan]

No it isn’t. Take a closer look! I reversed the mount so I could bring the scope more towards the rear of the rifle to get the eye relief I needed, due to the fact that the HPA kit adds extension onto the rifle (as I stated in my video), from the rear butt to where the scope resides. So a simple flip of a one-piece mount fixed the problem so I can get eye relief when I shoulder it. So, a rookie I am not. :)

[@joseglenn20]

The Scope Mount is Backwards.

[@zubysan]

I know. It’s so I can have the eye relief with the HPA mounted

[@dieselnation555]

Does the ejection flap actually open?

[@zubysan]

Yes it does

[@dieselnation555]

@@zubysan broooo make a quick vid of it i wanna see that in action loo

[@dieselnation555]

@@zubysan still waiting on that vid my dude

[@dieselnation555]

@@zubysan it definitly doesnt open when using the charge handle smh 🤦‍♂️