Sig Sauer MCX & MPX with HPA Conversion (Full Review) .177 Air Rifles

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@Sw1shersplitter
@Sw1shersplitter 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve literally watched every KZbin video on these rifles... cuz I ordered one.... but I gotta tell ya, yours was by far the most thorough!! Great great work my dude!!! Can’t wait to get my mpx!!
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad I filmed 1 more MPX video before I sold them. Fun guns!
@MrPolymers
@MrPolymers 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Sig MPX. I purchased the 13cu HPA tank kit from Air Venturi. I much prefer the HPA. I also purchased a high pressure pump. What people need to realize I can unscrew the HPA tank without it losing air. You cannot do that with C02. FYI.. Pyramid Air and Air Venturi the same company just to the North of me in Solon, OH to the SE of Cleveland. One other thing. Purchase extra O rings for the HPA tank. They will wear out.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thank you! -Nate
@davidlevitan1895
@davidlevitan1895 7 ай бұрын
U absolutely can use co2 and save air...with a 20 dollar adapter lol..duuuuh...he's rite...weirdly co2 is way better in this gun..not hpa..unless u like not puncturing a thin tin can..just get a umarex notos carbine..22..punches thru steel at 800 fps..DEADly accurate..I assure u this gun is Def not accurate once u use a real one..yes I own 1..7 out 10 for the money..
@jimdshea
@jimdshea 10 күн бұрын
@@davidlevitan1895 seriously... semi is cool, which is why i'm here - but we're looking at sub-2ft/lbs.
@dakotabobbitt6887
@dakotabobbitt6887 4 жыл бұрын
The tool to set the pellets is located in the bottom of the grip. If you look there's a little door on the bottom and if you pop it off you'll see the tool
@KevinMillard68
@KevinMillard68 4 жыл бұрын
you know that tool you got for adjusting the sites with its also the seater for the pellets has a little pointer on the one end
@Bmr4life
@Bmr4life 4 жыл бұрын
It also seats less deep than doing what he did which also leads to better cycling and accuracy.
@KevinMillard68
@KevinMillard68 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bmr4life when you seat the pellets properly you get better cycling and accuracy when you dont seat them right it will cause jam ups been there done that
@jonlamontagne
@jonlamontagne 3 жыл бұрын
Had the same thought a year later
@awejenn
@awejenn Жыл бұрын
Just got a mcx for Christmas, thanks for the video now I'm even more excited. Getting those Daisy's for sure!
@rg6569
@rg6569 4 жыл бұрын
Great video..Great descriptions and tests. Best MCX/MPX I've seen yet!! Keep 'em coming!
@stevemedlock6271
@stevemedlock6271 4 жыл бұрын
Being fairly low power, the lighter pellets like RWS Hobby 7g & Hyper Velocity 5.9g work well. My MCX came with a pellet seating tool which helps the belts to run free.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome.. I forgot to find the seating tool. -Nate
@angelsdevils2956
@angelsdevils2956 3 жыл бұрын
Can kill a Kodiak bear with this gun
@jaseperez2413
@jaseperez2413 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelsdevils2956 depends, you putting 300 blackout in it?
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelsdevils2956 , yes. Put the gun in a 630 pound crossbow. Get 5' away. Aim at his throat. Fire.
@Crimson_626
@Crimson_626 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, there is nothing like this on youtube!!!! Thanks for the Review and keep making them brother!!!
@ingohoffmann5259
@ingohoffmann5259 4 жыл бұрын
I like my MCX, and not just because, I'm German LOL . . . I just pimped mine up a little ;-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5vEeIlqjLuZgrM
@heathhalfhill6867
@heathhalfhill6867 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you did a video on these two guns. Particularly the MCX. Also happy to see someone else using Daisy Hollow Points. I still think they are the base pellet for the Gamo Red Fire. After 23, 500 round tins in .22 these have become my go to pellets. Thanks for the video and info bud. Very good.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! I got a Virtus coming on Monday
@guglielmomelis
@guglielmomelis 3 жыл бұрын
very natural and beautiful environment! not to mention to your review and that at this very moment I'm writing on cell and firing the MCX at the same time! cheers yall
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!. Also there is a new Sig PCP call the VIRTUS. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5TZoKihYqlrb9E
@spencerhulme1203
@spencerhulme1203 Ай бұрын
This is such a great overview of both models and in depth you should be commened 💯! I am about to purchase the MPX here in the UK! I first started training with a Jackal Parabellum side leaver when i was a boy, what a great air gun! As noted your review is excellent so many tips that other youtuber fail to mention
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel Ай бұрын
Thank you! -Nate
@hightechhippie
@hightechhippie 3 жыл бұрын
Great Work dude, Nice reviews, Your a dead eye, you make your Father proud! That was also FAS talking with your frog
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Cool man! Thanks for watching. More on the way! -Nate
@olivierb4573
@olivierb4573 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there, i'm French from Paris....just wanna say i love your vids. Continue please and have a great day :)
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Too bad my new dog chases away all the deer! Hello from the USA! -Nate
@shamsudeenfarook8147
@shamsudeenfarook8147 3 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel How much cost that MCX gun How to get that gun Because I’m in India 🇮🇳
@Kevin-wy8kc
@Kevin-wy8kc 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of noise comes from the magazine hole wrap some tape tightly right where the hole ends and DRAMATICALLY quiet it
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip. Thank you! -Nate
@Kevin-wy8kc
@Kevin-wy8kc 4 жыл бұрын
To be clearer wrap a strip of masking tape around the magazine right at the end of that hole(you'll have to cut a line where it goes over the door).
@Not_Evil_
@Not_Evil_ 3 жыл бұрын
8:10 There is a tool for that for both of those weapons exactly for that reason. They have to be secured in that belt
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
The tool is located in the grip I think...or it came in the box. It's on the grip on the Virtus
@xs1xs1
@xs1xs1 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice Video! Love These Longrange shootings
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! -Nate
@Mr.Titanium1911
@Mr.Titanium1911 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. By far the best review on youtube👌🏻
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! and thanks for watching! -Nate
@Thumperwrestler
@Thumperwrestler 4 жыл бұрын
you know it comes with a tool to seat the pellets right?
@jontyhawkes5332
@jontyhawkes5332 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously he doesn't..
@failingatgaming2040
@failingatgaming2040 4 жыл бұрын
nope he doesn't, reading is not his strength
@jontyhawkes5332
@jontyhawkes5332 4 жыл бұрын
@Garrett B I wouldn't presume to know as much about their products as Sig Sauer, but as they think it's important enough a thing as to make and supply with the gun then I think it would be churlish not to use it, but then that's just me, pmsl
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the time to make such a review. Hard to believe that any company, especially SIG, would stop developing such a fine airgun as this MPX/MCX and totally drop the ball at accuracy. Other reviews show the same failure. The First thing any gun has to accomplish is accuracy. What could be their reasoning? I would have bought one if it could do a quarter size of 10 shots at 15y. Beyond understanding. Some say such inaccuracy is ok for youngsters plinking. Not at All. Such junk is telling giving them false readings, telling them they're less capable than they are. Those accuracy tests for the MCX show the gun to be really pellet picky.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 2 жыл бұрын
They make the worlds best pistols and the worlds worst airguns.....money...they know they can sell those crappy airguns, so they do.
@micvirus78
@micvirus78 4 жыл бұрын
My mpx came with a small tool to seat the pellet deeper. You want the leading end to be flush with the forward edge of the belt for optimum performance. If you dont have the tool, a basic ballpoint pen works.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip! ...yes, that makes all the difference, your gun will never jam if you load the pellets correctly. -Nate
@micvirus78
@micvirus78 4 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel when do we get to see the new Sig vertis? I'm curious to see if it can actually throw at 700 fps.
@joseglenn4435
@joseglenn4435 4 жыл бұрын
Use the Excite Prometheus 4.6 Gr. steel wadcutters they're perfect for this Gun.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I will try them. -Nate
@BaKannizzoid
@BaKannizzoid 4 ай бұрын
Great video… love my Hpa mcx, mcx virtus 22, and mcx rattler canebrake
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like a sweet collection!
@slingshotwarrrior8105
@slingshotwarrrior8105 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a Sig Sauer MPX, powerful air-rifle!
@YDCFF_
@YDCFF_ 3 жыл бұрын
It's a 2 stage trigger because the trigger rotates the belt in the mag.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Good info. Thanks! -Nate
@Bmr4life
@Bmr4life 4 жыл бұрын
Hope they last longer than my Virtus did. The Virtus shot great for the first 120 shots. Then it went down hill from there until it completely gave up the ghost. Now it's in transit to Sig for warranty repair.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy one? Not in stock at PY Air
@Bmr4life
@Bmr4life 4 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel I ordered from PY back in January, got it on Feb 4th. Back then it said it was OOS until early Feb so I trust their in stock timing.
@briankaskie7014
@briankaskie7014 4 жыл бұрын
Love the review. I have MPX and noticed after about 300 shots, I now have to pull charging handle each time. Does that mean my co2 is losing pressure?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
yes, that's exactly what happens.
@vdog570
@vdog570 4 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel what do you do when that happens?switch out co2 cartridge? just ordered one btw so any tips will help thanks
@angelsdevils2956
@angelsdevils2956 3 жыл бұрын
@@vdog570 yes
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelsdevils2956 , and put a drop of Automatic Transmission Sealer, any brand, on each CO2 canister top before installing it.
@AndyBonesSynthPro
@AndyBonesSynthPro 3 жыл бұрын
That thing is really cool. I want one. Lately I've grown to love nicer air guns, shooting's cheap as hell & some bb guns have full-auto capability- Like my Beretta 92A1 .177, an all-metal select-fire bb machine pistol w/ blowback action
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I had the Beretta. Fun gun!
@shamsudeenfarook8147
@shamsudeenfarook8147 3 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel I want that MCX how to buy that gun because I’m in India 🇮🇳
@ericdarbyshire5621
@ericdarbyshire5621 4 жыл бұрын
nice review i have the MCX So far i love it still getting the scope set up on it
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Great little guns for sure!
@tacbear
@tacbear 4 жыл бұрын
WOW my Crosman BB gun on full auto w/Red Dot shoots about the same groups at 12 yards.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Sad but true! Great observation! -Nate
@brorjordas1979
@brorjordas1979 4 жыл бұрын
After the Virtus coming out I started to consider this HPA kit for my MCX. I were pretty much just out for more consistency in power output (without buying a totally new and expensive gun with accessories).. But according to this; I would not bother buying the conversion kit myself. The fps numbers were not what I woulda expected (no idea though how my own MCX shoots since not owning a chrono - and the gun is not really in original shape anymore) - but the numbers were not as consistent as hoped. My MCX shoots quite hot at the beginning, but starts quickly to drop in power cud of the cooling effect. Woulda hoped this kit to bring power consistency - but apparently not. I woulda went for a .177 Virtus PCP also - if they woulda made one.. just to not have to buy .22 pellets..
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I helped. Yeah, the MCX stinks on HPA. I will have a Virtus in about 4 days. Video on the way! Thanks for the comment! -Nate
@brorjordas1979
@brorjordas1979 3 жыл бұрын
@PL Lyons Yup. I've now owned a Virtus for about 4 months or so. About 2500-3000 pellets thru it by now. Absolutely fantastic fun. Been very happy with it. Bought a €6 adapter so I can use the Virtus tank on my .177 MCX if I want to - but I have not even felt a need to try that out. Used instead the adapter to build a pressure tester for the Virtus regulator. And I found a real bargain of RWS Hobby pellets a while back - so my .22 pellet shelf has been pretty well filled up.
@ericbengford8401
@ericbengford8401 4 жыл бұрын
They look cool but they cant hit the broad side of a barn.. I have one converted to hpa. Its only plus is you can shoot hundreds of shots on a fill. some day i might break it down and try and gain more power that could increase accuracy..
@ericbengford8401
@ericbengford8401 4 жыл бұрын
well i put a heavier hammer spring in and well i recommend not doing it.. no change in fps.. and it won't recarge the cocking mechanism.. going to put it back to original ..
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
The Virtus review is coming out the weekend. It’s 2x as powerful...same gun.. but in .22 and it’s PCP ...got over 120 shots.
@hoobakam.3931
@hoobakam.3931 4 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Seriously. Im going to get a lighter pellet. Using 7.9g on mcx hpa and very unhappy. Had a jam not even second clip. Pellets were seated with tool. Hoping the 5gr will make me a bit satisfied. Other then that, mcx... I paid about 600$ for it....and im quite unhappy. Crossman pump m4 177 is a better gun lol...i paid 80$ for that. The sig is just looks but has a long way to go in terrms of A solid bb shooter with decent fps. P.s. dont let the deer eat the laced lead apples bro lol. Please. Like i said...good video. Cheers.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I heard if you drill the mag belt out slightly...remove those ridges it puts on the pellet..it will give you 10X better accuracy.
@hoobakam.3931
@hoobakam.3931 3 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel thank you I'll look into this. Cheers.
@leroyjarvis5617
@leroyjarvis5617 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the review. The short version appeared to be losing gas around the magazine. I'm not impressed with the fps or the accuracy of these guns. I didn't see 700 fps in either gun. Can you turn up the power on the hpa? Still looks like a fun gun.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
You can’t adjust the velocity...they never shot over 550 fps.
@joseglenn4435
@joseglenn4435 4 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel yes you can but you'll need a Ninja hpa Bottle to mod the shims inside or get the Super High Pressure Preformance Regulator I have this on my MCX and it's a Beast with RWS Superpoint 8.2 gr at 540fps but if you want Overkill try the Excite prometheus 4.5 gr. pistol pellets they are steel Wadcutters with a plastic skirt 732 fps. out of a 8 inch barrel. but it's Loud too also you'll get 4 mags. out of the SHP . at this Power before you it drops in FPS. there are also 1400 psi output Reg. out there too but that would be Dangerous I would'nt try it if you vaule your Life.
@jeffb111880
@jeffb111880 4 жыл бұрын
@@joseglenn4435 where can I get a ninja hpa bottle? Do have a link or video that shows how to adjust or increase speed or distance? Does this mod have any effect on power? What do I have to do internally to this gun if I wnated to increase speed, power,accuracy?
@jeffb111880
@jeffb111880 4 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel you're telling me I bought the mcx and it is 750fps and does shoot what is advertised?
@rjakiel73
@rjakiel73 3 жыл бұрын
@@joseglenn4435 Do you have a parts list and a how to somewhere for the tank/reg. and parts needed to get that gun up to 732fps?
@michaeldeaton336
@michaeldeaton336 2 жыл бұрын
You know you have to pull the charging handle to pierce the co2 right? I have an mcx and love it.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Oh! Cool
@carlostrujillo3854
@carlostrujillo3854 2 жыл бұрын
I can run a remote line if I want to use my 48ci paintball tanks or my 70 but will look awkward..but this is nice system
@pollutance
@pollutance 4 жыл бұрын
Use H&N Baracuda Green, Lead Free, .177 Cal, 6.48 Grain, Round Nose for both MCX and MPX. They’re literally the same exact pellets as the Wraith Ballistic Alloy Pellets that Sig Sauer sells for $23. So save yourself $8 and go with the H&N Baracuda Green Pellets. BTW the MCX AND MPX are EXACTLY the same internally, the only differences are the barrel length, Hand Guards, the Mock Muzzle Break and Mock Suppressor. I’ve been hitting the Air Venturi Zinger Gallery at 30 yards with those H&N Baracuda Green Pellets. I also use the Umarex Co2 Adapter Sets, because I’m not always wanting to shoot 210-240 pellets in one sitting. Although to use the Umarex Co2 Adapter Set, you have to open the back of the MCX and MPX with a Dremel to get the Co2 Adapter Set all the way in there. You also have to shave out the middle of the buttstock lock a bit as well, but it’s totally worth it!!!!
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great info! The Sig guns do better with lighter pellets for sure. Great tip on the $23 ammo. -Nate
@Sandstorm69
@Sandstorm69 4 жыл бұрын
How many shots can you get on 12 gram co2?
@markwood8880
@markwood8880 3 ай бұрын
The hawki 9.72g pointed shoot dead on in mine
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 ай бұрын
Nice!
@ric44
@ric44 2 жыл бұрын
My gun came with a small silver tool that was designed to seatvthe pellet into the belt.
@jantelow
@jantelow 2 жыл бұрын
A little strange that they have made some tools in silver, my tool was made in potaluminium.
@mja9700
@mja9700 2 жыл бұрын
Bro your review was excellent. You pretty much covered ALL the need to know about this gun and ignored the unnecessary crap. Also you eliminated the the background music which is just annoying anyways. I didn't get any of these 177 because I know eventually they'll come up with 22. I got it finally. Virtus sig Sauer. I LOVE IT. AGAIN NICE REVIEW BRO. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@-Cutz-
@-Cutz- Жыл бұрын
Doesnt co2 and hpa use differnt o rings? In deciding on buying the sig sauer mcx virtus .22 already buying and an extra either mcx of mpx... looking luke mcx is winning because it can use hpa too which is what my .22 will use always good to have a back up thats why i want another.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel Жыл бұрын
same orings
@realrocksolutionsraphaston4325
@realrocksolutionsraphaston4325 3 жыл бұрын
Super quick question, I saw that aluminum barrel that’s on theSIG MCX and was wondering if it is it universal and can be adapted to the SIG MPX ?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@87fxgts
@87fxgts Жыл бұрын
The jt's are supposed to puncture when you pull the charging handle, per two other reviews i watched.
@joeparsons1477
@joeparsons1477 3 жыл бұрын
u do know the mpx&mcx come with a little tool to set the pellets in proper plus the tool is used for other things, it's located or should be in the handle of the gun. I've been told of a few issues after 300/400 pellets have been put through the gun???
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
The guns are cheap and crappy. That's for sure. I finally found the tool Thank you! -Nate
@joeparsons1477
@joeparsons1477 3 жыл бұрын
no problem pal glad u found! I really want to get an mpx massive fan of military style air guns as good as everyone says it is "it's good for 15, 000 pellets b4 any problems" 450/500 is the highest I've heard of b4 theirs trouble. for one the firing pin falls of, the seals go Sig Sauer r a bed company for parts or spare etc shame coz I do like the look etc of the mpx.
@kevinenger8623
@kevinenger8623 4 жыл бұрын
Awsome vid,,, specially when the deer showed up.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, too bad my new dog keeps them away now. They used to come every day.
@cdgarrett1
@cdgarrett1 4 жыл бұрын
My Daisy Buck BB gun shoots as accurate as these by SIG. is there any mods to fix the SIG accuracy?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Not that I know of. It is a little more accurate with CO2 because it was designed for Co2.
@shaunmc013
@shaunmc013 3 жыл бұрын
No you have to seat them in with the tool Sig provides you lol 😂 mine never jammed lol 😂
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! -Nate
@abzy4368
@abzy4368 2 жыл бұрын
How do some people have more smoke effect at the end of the barrel after a shot?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 2 жыл бұрын
The temperature of the air outside and the CO2. Hot house and CO2 meets cold outside air = fog.
@HUTCH-357
@HUTCH-357 Жыл бұрын
you need to 0 your scope and try polymer pelets, the hpa conversion was a sensible choice, if your unsure how to 0 your scope then just utube it for demo
@richardcranium8247
@richardcranium8247 3 жыл бұрын
Can you put a regular with the hepa bottle to get more velocity out of this gun?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
probably not...just buy the sig virtus pcp rifle
@richardcranium8247
@richardcranium8247 3 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel cool thanks I’m just getting into this so I’m going through your videos to see which one I would like most for an entry level one. Appreciate it, I’ll use your link when I end up deciding👍
@stephangrobler5524
@stephangrobler5524 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Quick question, with umerex co2 what are the fps?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
around the same...but a little more accurate with CO2. 500FPS average.
@bryanjames5090
@bryanjames5090 3 жыл бұрын
Does the charging hammer slide back or no
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@vandanajindal7308
@vandanajindal7308 3 жыл бұрын
sir , can you tell the compressor you use for the tank or the one we can opt for ?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
You can use a $40 PCP hand pump off ebay. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGildKJqocuhfK8
@vandanajindal7308
@vandanajindal7308 3 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel Thanks Bro
@timlawson2502
@timlawson2502 4 жыл бұрын
Why aren't you using the scope reticle correctly?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I was.
@PK-rl7qv
@PK-rl7qv 3 жыл бұрын
MCX & MPX which one more powerful.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
The longer one. MCX. The Virtus and $40 PCP hand pump is what you want if you want this gun with power. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5TZoKihYqlrb9E
@shawndubay4050
@shawndubay4050 3 жыл бұрын
Grear looking rifles but I think I will stick with my Airforce Condor SS .25 and my Hatsan bullboss .22. Both are matchstick accurate at thirty yards and pack a very solid punch to whatever target you put in front of it. The Airforce Condor SS .25 definitely takes first place in power. It actually put a dent one sixteenth of an inch deep and the perfect shape of a pellet head into my .22 long rifle bullet rated spinner targets at my thirty yard range. Definitely one that will put food on the table.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Those are real airguns, These Sigs are more like toys, or BB guns. Airforce Talon was my first airgun over 20+ years ago. Thanks for watching! -Nate
@shawndubay4050
@shawndubay4050 3 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel very good choice on the talon. If you like the talon you will go absolutely nuts over the Condor SS. Especially in .25 caliber. It's pretty close to the same power as some .22lr rounds and is pretty quiet. Plus half the cost to shoot and you get more ammo. I don't even scare birds and squirrels when I'm shooting in the side yard. And they have enough punch to drop coyote and wild boar with headshots within 75 yards.
@Biffo1262
@Biffo1262 Жыл бұрын
Fair to say I most certainly won't be buying one with accuracy like that.
@JohnnyG193
@JohnnyG193 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome review. Thanks bud. I have a brand new MCX I haven’t shot yet, but would like to know if anyone has shot the Umarex “Big Blast” exploding Targets....?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, here is a video I made. I shoot them all the time in my videos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYmnYoymd7F6nck
@ewitodaaabeaner9643
@ewitodaaabeaner9643 4 жыл бұрын
So with the mcx shoots faster with the lighter red tips and what are they called ima look for them at Walmart
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
they are called Redfires...by Gamo I think. They are at walmart.
@javier230525
@javier230525 4 жыл бұрын
I did the conversion to my Sig Sauer MCX but I'm having trouble because I have the pull the load handle every time I want to shoot
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Bummer, not sure what the issue would be. Increase the PSI maybe? There is a way to shim the regulator for more power but I don’t know how that works. Good luck -Nate ...or buy the new Virtus PCP MCX
@javier230525
@javier230525 4 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel I put a 3000 psi tank on the gun but I couldn't get it to work..
@s0mbragris555
@s0mbragris555 4 жыл бұрын
mCx co2 asg 88g 140 shotS 23° MCX CO2 umarex 88g 120 shots 23°. shot 5s shot 5s
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks! -Nate
@topher12661
@topher12661 4 жыл бұрын
Check to see that your barrel is tight. Also I find 7 grain wadcutters work best .
@RP-dv3pw
@RP-dv3pw 4 жыл бұрын
topher12661 Yes sir! I got both and only the 7gn wads run well. They are also pretty accurate.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I will check that! ...and I’ll get some wad cutters...actually I do have those. Thanks! -Nate
@RP-dv3pw
@RP-dv3pw 4 жыл бұрын
www.pyramydair.com/s/p/RWS_Diabolo_Basic_177_Cal_7_0_Grains_Wadcutter_300ct/234
@gmanneod8085
@gmanneod8085 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review Nate . Awesome "30 pellet" AR style rifles. During your testing I was surprised to see the big FPS deviation between shots with the same pellet. Usually that means there is a air leak in an o ring somewhere? Did you find any leaks? I would send this video to 'SIGUSA and ask them if there is a problem. Did this change when you used the Co2? Just wondering. Sig makes great products and it is unusual to see these variations.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, using Co2 will get you noticeably better accuracy and consistency. I never did chronograph it on Co2 but I know from Sig reps that it was designed for Co2 (the valve) ...so that is why High pressure air is less consistent with velocity. I intended to test the Co2 on the chrono and paper but when I got the wrong Co2 capsules at big 5 (JT brand) ...I didn’t want to order more online. That’s why the new Virtus Sig PCP will be so great. And it’s .22
@ericdarbyshire5621
@ericdarbyshire5621 4 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel i got my co2 from walmart
@Bmr4life
@Bmr4life 4 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel My Virtus broke the same day I got it. Was great while it lasted though.
@Crottedenez1000
@Crottedenez1000 4 жыл бұрын
I do have two of them and both are the same garbage ! Nice looking toys but just half the power as promised ! I’ve tested both the CO2 and PCP as well, same disappointing results... Here in Switzerland they cost over 300$, and customer support is a joke ! My SIG 90 (the military version of the 550) I’ve used in the Army is a pure gem, but these air replicas are the perfect Illustration of an industry that rests on his past successes and sells total junk overpriced just because of it’s name ! I am very curious about the results of the Vitus, but am already pretty sure it will be the same story too... Just a shame
@Biffo1262
@Biffo1262 Жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel That statement from Sig is utter rubbish. The pressure of CO2 at around 10°C is 848 psi and will rise when warmer and drop as it cools with rapid shooting. The reg on the air bottle is set about 900psi so how Sig can say CO2 would be more accurate then a regulated air bottle beta me. It simply defies physics and my own quite extensive experience in converting from CO2 to air which I used to do on a semiprofessional basis. Sig are talking utter nonsense. This gun is built to look good but performs appallingly.
@frankknight7968
@frankknight7968 Жыл бұрын
There is a tool to push the pellets in properly!
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel Жыл бұрын
It's in the magazine I think
@doobewon
@doobewon Жыл бұрын
Loading key should be in the handle
@brorjordas1979
@brorjordas1979 4 жыл бұрын
Can't but wonder why the chrony numbers were so low.. Is not the regulated airpressure higher than the average co2 pressure? Seen 1100psi regulated tanks, and co2 being lower than that.. Soo.. What is the actual problem with the hpa setup? Not enough of airmass even though more pressurized? I guess a plenum change is to start with if getting a hpa setup for my MCX.. The damn MCX shoots so good until the co2 starts cooling down..
@smokingunclefrank6037
@smokingunclefrank6037 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review but since it's been a year how is your MCX holding up
@djienf
@djienf 2 жыл бұрын
Can you use a high pressure air for the cross man AK1?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 2 жыл бұрын
No
@teslacybertruck750
@teslacybertruck750 3 жыл бұрын
I take my hat off to Bagabu he handled that massacre like a champ with a smile on his face.
@TheBsavage
@TheBsavage 4 жыл бұрын
Strange. I put JTs in my MPX & it punctured the CO2 seal & shot no problem.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got mine at Big 5, and I saved like $7 so I was in a great mood and then I went to screw them in and they would not work. Who knows what was going on
@CCDsixup
@CCDsixup Жыл бұрын
I just want to be sure, is there a specific version I need to buy that's compatible with HPA or can I just buy the HPA Converted stock and add it on to the mpx ? thanks
@videocreations27
@videocreations27 4 жыл бұрын
Try the gamo wadcutters
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll try those
@markwood8880
@markwood8880 3 ай бұрын
There is a tool that comes with gun to push pellets in place
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! -Nate
@billrundell2097
@billrundell2097 4 жыл бұрын
HELP! How do we remove an 88g co2 cylinder from the rifle and still retain our co2 that remains in the cylinder.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
You can’t ...just leave it in...it doesn’t hurt it.
@Crottedenez1000
@Crottedenez1000 4 жыл бұрын
Airgun Channel You sure ? I’ve read at several places one can do so with pcp but not CO2 because this gas attacks and destroys the seals... (thats why I go for the 2x 12g CO2 adapter, so when I don’t shoot as much, there is less wasted, sometimes I even insert only one new cartridge plus an already empty one, works the same. However, with the Pyramid’s pcp tank, I get only very disappointing results, both in fps, (accuracy) as well as reliability (Lots of jammings, even at 3000 psi) any idea ?) Thanks for your always great reviews and sorry for my bad english !
@Fetti_Sosa
@Fetti_Sosa 4 жыл бұрын
I have cx4 storm my 90g CO2 has been in there for months lol just make sure u shoot a couple shots out of it every now and then until the gas runs out. Leaving in the CO2 builds up the pressure so that first shot is always nice and crispy. Same with my gbb pistols. Just exercise that trigger every so often. It won't hurt the gun. As long as u keep em clean and well lubed/oiled.
@joseglenn4435
@joseglenn4435 4 жыл бұрын
@@Crottedenez1000 the tank's output is set at 850 psi that's bad for 177. you'll want 1200 psi output get the Ninja SHP regulator.
@jakekennedy6920
@jakekennedy6920 4 жыл бұрын
Is the mcx sig 177 a good gun or is it crap a lot of mixed reviews and want to buy it but don't if it does have the issues people claim
@Crottedenez1000
@Crottedenez1000 4 жыл бұрын
Jake Kennedy I do have two of them and both are identical crap ! Save your money for anything else, best choice, believe me !
@jakekennedy6920
@jakekennedy6920 4 жыл бұрын
@@Crottedenez1000 that's sad.because they look really cool but I'm also glad that I won't be spending my money on this I am going to get the Ruger 1022 co2 version now thanks
@Crottedenez1000
@Crottedenez1000 4 жыл бұрын
Jake Kennedy Good choice ! (The same in pcp is also an absolute no-go, none of them hold the pressurized air over time, mine even wheezes out half of it as soon as I disconnect the hose). Since I have the privilege to own some very nice and extreme precise upper end pcp’s, instead of my two MCXs (which no one is interested in taking over), just for fun and plinks, I offered myself a Crosman DPMS SBR which has even a full auto mode. Of course, this one is even weaker than the MCX, but unlike SIG, they never promised more power and accuracy. One weak point, is his heavy consumption of CO2, it starts to have reloading issues while one of the two CO2 cartridges seems still to be half full. But for about 3-4 reloads (with the genius speedy loader done in 2 seconds !), it offers lots of fun though ! Wish you always much pleasure shooting and stay healthy ! (Sorry for my bad English !)
@cdgarrett1
@cdgarrett1 4 жыл бұрын
I like the availability of HPA tanks for these SIG rifles but FPS and accuracy is still way inferior to other budget air rifles.
@Camself
@Camself 4 жыл бұрын
If you don't mind, could you recommend to any of us who may be wondering, which budget superior setups you reccomend for superior performance?
@TheExtaci
@TheExtaci 4 жыл бұрын
@@Camself cant go wrong with a gamo coyote/BSA bucanneer
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 2 жыл бұрын
@@Camself , Diana Chaser pistol. Then make your own shoulder stock of PVC tubing. Mine works fine. Quality. Low price. Accurate. If the magazine doesn't allow unloading a pellet, file the opening a tiny bit more, and it will work. Put 1 drop Automatic Transmission Sealer on the top of every CO 2 cartridge before installing. Add a quality Hawke scope of up to 6 x.
@Manny-yy7hq
@Manny-yy7hq 9 ай бұрын
Comes with a tool to push the pellets in fully
@JD_1
@JD_1 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Good looking gun. But totally sucks in accuracy. 10 yards max to get a good group. I've tried several different grain from 5 to 10. Different styles tips. And several different brands with the same results. I've even tried slugs, lol. At 25 yards I get a 8" group. I think the issue with this gun is the belt system. When you seat the pellets in the belt it deforms and marks up the pellets.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
For sure, awesome gun for realism and feel...not so accurate. Sig Virtus PCP video coming this weekend. -Nate
@adamsprjng8121
@adamsprjng8121 2 жыл бұрын
Can I use a 48ci 3000psi with my mPX sig Sauer pellet rifle?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 2 жыл бұрын
No, It's 1200 PSI
@adamsprjng8121
@adamsprjng8121 2 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel I know your is set up as 1200 PSI but can the MPX use a 3000psi compressed air tank? Thank you
@hotelmanagerzhyo4423
@hotelmanagerzhyo4423 9 ай бұрын
is this can be purchased from Indonesia?
@l.m6836
@l.m6836 10 ай бұрын
Weshalb stellst du das Zielfernrohr nicht tiefer?
@jeffb111880
@jeffb111880 4 жыл бұрын
If you cant adjust the strength and is fixed power. why add a higher pressure tank?
@jeffb111880
@jeffb111880 4 жыл бұрын
Do you by chance have video of what you did? Could I see your setup? I want more velocity and accuracy. That is my main aim. I want distance in a rifle. And accurate lol.
@KaosTerritor
@KaosTerritor 4 жыл бұрын
Hy there, can you tell me the name of the soppressor of this gun ? I'm looking to buy on the web
@Crottedenez1000
@Crottedenez1000 4 жыл бұрын
Kaos Territor it’s integrated and only for optic. No function at all !
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there is no supressor on the gun. It comes like that
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 2 жыл бұрын
Study making suppressors online. Cut your imitation suppressor off the shroud. Unscrew or cut off the imitation suppressor end cap. Self-make the needed parts. Fill the to-be suppressor interrior with the needed materials, reseal the cap, reinstall the new suppressor onto the shroud. I've did it on my Aspen. Helps.
@-Cutz-
@-Cutz- Жыл бұрын
Very good video comparison video.
@fawadahmadi5685
@fawadahmadi5685 3 жыл бұрын
So I added the pcp to my mcx and I put it to 3000psi but iam firing but it's not firing do I need to release a valve or something
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Is it loaded right?
@fawadahmadi5685
@fawadahmadi5685 3 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel yeah it doesn't even make the same noise as it did with a 90g tank . It just clicks now
@arturosalgado2343
@arturosalgado2343 2 жыл бұрын
Can I use the gold flights on that gun. I can't find a gun that fits the gold flights. I cannot return them haha.
@robertcruz9656
@robertcruz9656 4 жыл бұрын
Can you prove the fps on these two guns?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Did you see the chronograph test in the video???. I didn't fake it.
@rjakiel73
@rjakiel73 3 жыл бұрын
I saw 530 with the 5.4gr on the MCX. Did it shoot anywhere near the advertised 700 FPS with any of the other pellets?
@dustinkeezer8065
@dustinkeezer8065 4 жыл бұрын
Can you convert this into a .223
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
No, get an 80% lower if you want to do that.
@GG197535
@GG197535 4 жыл бұрын
Can you try the gamo lethal?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I'll try and get one.
@elizaldeesic1422
@elizaldeesic1422 3 жыл бұрын
how much this gun,, I like this,, I live in Philippines,,
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
It costs about $150 USD.
@Not_Evil_
@Not_Evil_ 3 жыл бұрын
What output pressure have u set on the tank ?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's 1200 PSI. You can't really set it. Check out the Virtus MCX from Sig: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5TZoKihYqlrb9E
@davidherron9151
@davidherron9151 4 жыл бұрын
in the Uk they have restricted these to 8 ft lbs or around 400 Fps at 1.77 and they have made it non semi auto , so you have to push forward the trigger to load each round. and they cost arounf £400 to £500 which is $674.35 you guys are lucky to live some pace that is not SHIT lol
@stvincents2007
@stvincents2007 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you buy one from the US ? I’m sure it’ll not illegal to ship, just the auto thing maybe
@sonofgod2041
@sonofgod2041 4 жыл бұрын
Is it for big games?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
NO!!! it is only a toy...for children.
@jaseperez2413
@jaseperez2413 2 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel Definitely not a toy… Killed a raccoon in one shot to the head, also killed a coyote with a perfect shot to the eye, the a couple follow up shots close up to be sure
@bigmarkthe1
@bigmarkthe1 Жыл бұрын
The 10 yard's were awesome
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! -Nate
@Mike_E_DeShaman
@Mike_E_DeShaman 4 жыл бұрын
So i bought that air tank but it aint doin anything is there something i need to do to make it work
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 4 жыл бұрын
You have to pump it up with a PCP hand pump.
@Mike_E_DeShaman
@Mike_E_DeShaman 4 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel i filled the tank man
@Mike_E_DeShaman
@Mike_E_DeShaman 4 жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel is their another step to release the air into the system
@tinfoilhat4408
@tinfoilhat4408 7 ай бұрын
Is that mps or fps?
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 7 ай бұрын
FPS
@varyingpierced
@varyingpierced Жыл бұрын
I just got the Mpx at a pawn shop with 5 double boxed 88 gram air cartridges and 3 cans of sig pellets for $100 and tax…
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel Жыл бұрын
That works! So sad they probably gave someone $20 for his MPX
@varyingpierced
@varyingpierced Жыл бұрын
@@AirgunChannel probably less than $20 Pawn shops are the only businesses that actively prey on the needy and desperate and then makes 500%+ on their “investment” and doesn’t go to prison for it…… We had a sweet old lady that pawned really expensive jewelry for 5% of its worth and paid the interest on them $22 per $100 every 3 months for almost a decade and then she passed and the shop sold it at auction and made a fortune plus they already made tons of tons on just the interest payments for so long….. It should be illegal what they do to people…especially the fees and interest rates!!! Just like the title “loan” scams
@milkncheese1
@milkncheese1 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the MCX when it came out and within 3 full mag refills I found the pellets would jam or foul up due to the 4 small ribs that hold the pellets in place not being able to hold the pellets in place. All pellets were set using the tool... I would use JSB 8.44g in a 4.53mm. Dear @sigsauer please make a figure of 8 style Oring that would hold the pellets better in each link... This is a fantastic gun with so much potential and I could see this helping others as it has me on gun transitions and drills.. Until this issue with the mag and pellets has been fixed this is a redundant cool af toy...
@tommy4244
@tommy4244 3 жыл бұрын
They should have supplied a full size mag with these
@danielzachtec
@danielzachtec 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of shot count per fill did you get after the conversion?
@erichilomen2003
@erichilomen2003 3 жыл бұрын
How much is that air gun??
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 3 жыл бұрын
$185 link in description.
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