I feel like the feminine features of Giger's Xeno would have worked really well with the monastery story in the earlier draft. A planet full of sexually repressed monks are suddenly confronted by a monstrous yet strangely sexual monster. Could have also made a nice parallel to the effect Ripley would have had on these monks as well.
@AJsFigures2 жыл бұрын
Giger knew best. The weird, creepy intelligent Xeno will always be my xeno. It's what makes them scary. As soon as the xenos became animals they lost their terror. Keeping them ominous and unpredictable is what makes them so frightening. I want them to bring back this aspect in the movies
@sporovid58562 жыл бұрын
FINALLY someone who gets it. Thanks. Aliens is a good film, but James Cameron ruined Xenomorphs in my opinion. Turned a lovecraftian horror into a bunch of ants
@non.local.quantum.circuit10 ай бұрын
@@sporovid5856 Exactly!!! I'm glad there are Alien fans who understand this .... Cameron with his Alien$ has destroyed this mysterious, miraculous... Magnificent ... figure of the Alien.
@tosweetdelight6 ай бұрын
Agreed - the original Alien clearly had intelligence, toying with its prey because... well, because we just didn't know/couldn't understand why bc it was so alien. I can get down with the idea of drones in a hive being more drone-like, but it does make them less frightening.
@pentacosttb25653 ай бұрын
I disagree on this. The aliens in Aliens were definitely an insect like creature, but they’re also highly intelligent and outsmarted and outmanoeuvred the humans repeatedly through the film. Really, in many ways they’re more an analogy for communism and the lack of care for the lives of the individuals, coupled with a dreadful and totally amoral cruelty.
@EbonyPope2 ай бұрын
I agree that the legs for the first design looked goofy that why they only showed the upper part. But apart from that it was perfection. Sometimes artists need someone who gives them feedback or tells them when they go to far. Communication through music is a stupid idea. This design here would be okay as a variation but should not replace the original.
@rkitchen693 жыл бұрын
This is such a unique and fascinating design but still using elements of his original alien. The tongue, barbed spear kiss sequence would have been super creepy. Also, hearing it play sounds from its body makes me think of a rattlesnake. Gives me shivers!
@th3lonef0x42 жыл бұрын
You'll love Alien: Into Charybdis then. (Sequel novel to Alien: The Cold forge.)
@jointcerulean33503 жыл бұрын
This Horrifying and incredibly unique xenomorph design is really awesome! with the barbed spear tongue with backwards facing spikes, swords coming through the knuckles or fingers and also the feet like the wolverine, and X23 as you mentioned, saw blade shoulders, and a second set of skin That can make sounds like a bizarre instrument. Also having a creepy unsettling finger brain is terrifying! It would be really cool if they used H.R. Giger’s concepts of the dog alien for a new and sadistic xenomorph species, that would be incredible if they did that, and executed it right.
@marcoscaba3846Ай бұрын
The ability to use music to express emotions or language would fit in perfectly with the Engineer using a flute to communicate with the Juggernaut.
@sebbesolo6274 Жыл бұрын
Giger had a good understanding of what makes something unique. The lips would be interesting if done in a subtle way,, and the body making music sounds great. I imagine it making eerie sounds, or maybe try to make soothing sounds, like a mermaid, making the victims curious to check it out
@badfrankenstein10093 жыл бұрын
I personally like Giger's runner over the one we ended up getting.
@BenniRoR3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, Giger's vision for the new Alien was quite sexy.
@thedoruk63243 жыл бұрын
This looks absolutely amazing! 3:07 Xenomorph unexpectedly looks feminine
@scifiexplained3 жыл бұрын
Hey Doruk!
@thedoruk63243 жыл бұрын
@@scifiexplained hello How are things going
@scifiexplained3 жыл бұрын
Great! How are you?
@thedoruk63243 жыл бұрын
@@scifiexplained not bad fortunately things are normalizing
@rickyrackey79303 жыл бұрын
@@scifiexplained How you doing? Less gooo
@jacoboj-zv4jv2 жыл бұрын
In Alien novel "Into Charybdis" there is Xeno looking like it. It's exciting moment for Alien universe's fan, when you realize that Alex White is describing Giger's concept.
@linkndark2 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to see Gigers model in Berlin last week. It is currently on display in the "Schinkel Pavillon",with some of his other works until the 16th of January.
@GodzillaFan-ok7ek3 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. HR Giger.
@wafagdplqs44213 жыл бұрын
R.I.P
@GodzillaFan-ok7ek3 жыл бұрын
@@wafagdplqs4421 He will be missed.
@jimbowlan58043 жыл бұрын
It’s sad how fox treated hr with out his design fox never would made money
@Jenjak2 жыл бұрын
I like the alien to be a twisted version of human beings. Like it takes stuff from our DNA but turns it in the most nightmarish way.
@Jcarroz2 жыл бұрын
fascinating. I'm glad they didn't do this for Alien 3 but would love to see this explored elsewhere.
@dynamosaurusimperious27183 жыл бұрын
This sure is one very nice video about the scripted Alien Dog Runner,and though Giger made a very weird alien,and he still is one very awesome dude. Also I wish y'all a Greta day,and RIP HR Giger
@TheGreatBaronOBeefDip5 ай бұрын
This seems also more like a female counterpart to the Big Chap's masculine features. With the original idea of the monks, you could tell that the sexual violence of the alien was used to even greater and apparent effect.
@AxisChurchDevotee23 күн бұрын
Like it's some sort of fem fatal assassin variant?
@TheGreatBaronOBeefDip23 күн бұрын
@@AxisChurchDevotee It was going to be a succubus in a way, from both the temptation of seeing Ripley, and the alien being a seduction that would ultimately kill them, there were even going to be lips on the design with a different pharyngeal jaw that stabbed them through their heads during a kiss, and it would also respond to music. He certainly had some wild ideas for this one.
@AxisChurchDevotee23 күн бұрын
@ Makes me wonder what the lore behind it would have been if fully fleshed out. What niche did it have other variants couldn't do? Drones warriors and runners are already highly lethal killers so why use a succubus style variant? Expanded universe stuff like crushers and spitters all have a clear niche but what would this one have done ro justify it's existence?
@TheGreatBaronOBeefDip23 күн бұрын
@@AxisChurchDevotee Here's the thing: the original Alien life cycle had no other classes, Big Chap was it, and I find it much more creepy and...ALIEN. He was acting of his own volition to not only reproduce, but derive pleasure in the fear it caused those 8 passengers, possibly sexual pleasure. He is an embodiment of man's antithesis, taking what is good about us and inverting it. The female equivalent would have been the completion of that binary of inverting man, and especially deriving a lot of pleasure from not only killing men, but chaste men. The symbolism of the first movie, and the third to an extent is incredibly dark, even from the genesis, Dan O'Bannon said in regard to how the Alien gets on board, "It fucks one of the crew to death."
@jointcerulean33503 жыл бұрын
There’s a cool sketch of the dog alien that H R Giger made were the alien had a more animalistic appearance like the rottweiler Dog host in burst out of with a longer mouth with canine dentition and was baring it’s teeth, and the gums were pulled more forward and extended kinda like when a shark feeds, or attempts to bite a prey item. The look of it’s mouth, teeth, and gum pulled forward really made it look extremely fierce and terrifying. Also the sketches that were drawn next to the mouth drawings had the dog aliens full body. Showing it’s dexterity, agility, speed, and ambushing attacks, like a puma it looked fast, highly lethal, and also elegant.
@wasm93423 жыл бұрын
Disney needs to make Alien 3: 2
@Mario_N642 жыл бұрын
Giger felt manipulated and misled by David Fincher. He says Fincher wasn't straightforward with him, he made Giger think he was the lead designer of the creature.
@Miguel-jq6ol2 ай бұрын
While the musical element seems strange I can imagine incorporated in some way. Like the form of the body creating a sound like a howling wind in a breeze or when it runs. A sound you hear off screen and gets louder as it approches. Or even icorporated into an environment like the space jockey's ships or architecture with the organic hallways creating a strange form of music
@benjiii34073 ай бұрын
The spear tongue concept with the monk by Geiger is fucn twisted and sick. Would it stab through the head completely or just go in and pull inside out ? How would it even get its prey in that situation ? What if the holes in the Runners chest were made for more than just to show it’s emotion or express itself but instead for mimicking sounds of other animals or the environment. Maybe the voice of another human when it’s tracking one down. Whenever it’s victim makes eye contact maybe the frontal lobe/enlarged head area would glow or be even more transparently visible and the victim would be influenced by the Runners ability. Maybe stunned, in a trance or maybe the finger brain waves are strong enough to lure its victims right to the Runner ready for a big wet kiss. I imagine it more like a seduction sort of trance/trickery, rather than a possession. Spear tonguing its victim in a kiss is so Geiger and fucked up, would’ve been crazy shocking to see something like that in one of these movies.
@clutch28276 ай бұрын
Giger's first studio experience was fortunately and unfortunately his best experience.
@sterneis13 ай бұрын
HR Giger was just an amazing suisse artist l must say
@grant726 ай бұрын
So he blend Sil's tongue to A Xenomorph. Nice
@EBMZEQUENZER3 жыл бұрын
And than we got David as a xenomorph creator : fuck off film !
@Thumbdumpandthebumpchump3 ай бұрын
Would have been a good return to form. Hell, with three very different aliens, you could easily day part of what makes it the "perfect organism" is that every generation is evolved uniquely.
@samrizzardi22132 жыл бұрын
I hope NECA releases a figure
@scifiexplained2 жыл бұрын
oh yea!!!! I never thought about that, it would be awesome!
@AngelesInversores-b4f4 ай бұрын
Quiero ver ese alien en una precuela, y que pueda hablar
@neurohack90386 ай бұрын
This is exactly what they should have used. It would have been amazing.
@th3lonef0x42 жыл бұрын
7:17 Well your in luck, Alien: Into Charybdis has you covered. (Just make sure to read the first book The Cold forge first.)
@AzayBae3 жыл бұрын
This xeno got me acting up.
@HouseDracul2 жыл бұрын
Recreating the Kissing Dragon has been one of my favorite undertakings as King Father. She's an anti-human specialist even among Plagiarus praepotens.
@petervlcko48582 жыл бұрын
alien movie is basically gigers nightmare moving picture. and it should stay like that. that a shame they went down the hole were alien is animal and then AI liquid goo creation all too bolocks and not enough surreal. this concept will make us stare again on screen with open mouth not believing what we are watch but not able to turn head away paralyzed by fear.
@nicholasraso67423 жыл бұрын
giger is so cool
@Lucasfan3753 жыл бұрын
Even if they went with this design, it would be a little bit too hard to pull off. But, I kind of hope that this alien appears in some form
@jashkholiya71163 жыл бұрын
Man, missing your uploads Comeback soon
@sprite44813 жыл бұрын
I hope this guy comes back🥺🥺🥺🥺
@scifiexplained3 жыл бұрын
working on a new video right now!
@The_0nly_N0VA3 жыл бұрын
why hasn't NECA made this into a figure yet? i need it. now.
@scifiexplained3 жыл бұрын
thats a great idea! they need to hear this!
@The_0nly_N0VA3 жыл бұрын
@@scifiexplained i bet you that it is an issue of rights...in that they have the right to reproduce creatures and concepts owned by the Alien franchise but not owned by Giger himself (which i believe this design is)...in that way, NECA would have to petition the Giger estate etc. The closest thing we can get are 3dprinters printing the design (there is one on Etsy who prints giger's alien 3 face as a decoration to be hung on the wall). Also, McFarlane's version of the dog alien was something akin to a cross between Giger's Alien 3 design and ADI's alien 3 design.
@The_0nly_N0VA3 жыл бұрын
love the channel by the way.
@jointcerulean33503 жыл бұрын
It would also be cool if Neca made the other sketches of the dog alien that Giger made into figure form.
@axelibrotherus35262 жыл бұрын
What people usually forget is that the runner in alien 3 was only born because its host was a dog. So it used its dna or something to behave like one. So there aint really diferent species, just inviduals that differ from each other according to their hosts.
@IcecreamThe1st3 жыл бұрын
3k from 100k subs !
@1tuz5082 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, thanks.
@scifiexplained2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@sneakyking3 жыл бұрын
Giger was a messed up bro.
@--SHEPHERD-OF-MOTHER-EARTH--3 жыл бұрын
he saw the void... madness... nihilism itself... started back at it and walked away... he was pretty strong in his own way... he might have been worthy... didn't know him personally... but maybe...
@sneakyking3 жыл бұрын
@@--SHEPHERD-OF-MOTHER-EARTH-- that's a good description. Seeing the void and the madness just above.
@sheep1ewe3 жыл бұрын
I think he purposly confronted the wiewer of the art with those parts of the human mind that make us feel uncomfortable to admit, a fusion between sleep and awake. In my opinin he was a true master catching those parts of the human mind, i think that's what makes the monsters that creepy because they are not what they apear to be on the surface, they are actualy about revieling uncomfortable parts of our inner self we try to deny that we hawe inside us, i do not think it is a coincident he designed the xenomorphs as they where, there are deffinitly a lot more to them under the surface.
@ANW1153 жыл бұрын
U ok man? Haven’t uploaded in a while
@scifiexplained3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thanks for asking! Combination of house getting remodeled and resting and doing physical therapy on my arms. Hoping to return soon!
@J3keEditz3 жыл бұрын
@@scifiexplained Glad to know your still good! Can't wait for you to return
@ANW1153 жыл бұрын
@@scifiexplained kk I was just worried 😀
@ANW1153 жыл бұрын
@@J3keEditz same 🙂
@MrChupacabra555 Жыл бұрын
I thought the lips were more like Angelina Jolie myself ^_^
@reodimitri3 жыл бұрын
What he plans to create is interesting. 🧐
@jackieboyborden3 ай бұрын
they should have trusted Giger
@vermis83443 жыл бұрын
"And then, and then he kisses the alien! Ya! Ya ya ya...!" 🤨
@SomaSong3 жыл бұрын
I would love to help the channel by narrating. Hmu if you are interested.
@--SHEPHERD-OF-MOTHER-EARTH--3 жыл бұрын
he saw the void... madness... nihilism itself started back at it and walked away... he was pretty strong in his own way... he might have been worthy... didn't know him personally... but maybe...
@nelsonminator3 жыл бұрын
I like this one better... it keeps the Xenomorph where it should be... a big ?.
@TheBaioken2 жыл бұрын
I dont like the weird runner/dog thing we got in Alien3. Its just too much like a usual alien drone, just a bit more slick and all fours, not really presenting anything new or unique. Also I always associate it with those non pretty CGI shots from the film.
@trishmenhart17923 жыл бұрын
The win loss record for Godzilla the series Godzilla
@jabroniyumerale62042 ай бұрын
Alien 3 should've been a quality comedy-horror pornparody (where the porn is replaced with a gorn a bit).
@johnmcwherter25383 жыл бұрын
Why do they keep saying human like when the runner alien came out of a dog?
@slayertakim12 жыл бұрын
Probably based on the original script they had before it changed a but before Finch was brought on board. The original scripts for 3 didnt really include the xeno coming from a dog
@Kramswodahs3 ай бұрын
Would
@jerryfick8547 Жыл бұрын
It is by far my favorite alien. So animalistic and vicious.
@majinwarwulf3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I was always a little disappointed by Alien 3, compared to the first two. I am super glad they did not use Geiger's version. Human-like? Tongue? Music? FEELINGS? No thanks.
@gavinoconnorclarke52703 жыл бұрын
I prefer it over ADI's runner. That's not to say their runner is bad, I just prefer something new and different. In my opinion, ADI's Runner suited Fincher's dark, dystopian mining planet. Giger's runner's would have worked for Vincent Ward's Alien 3 in terms of environment, such as the wooden planet. Ward's wooden planet had trees, and fields, like corn or grain fields. Imagine this creature teasing its pray through music or hissing inside a long, grain field. Another working environment would be a jungle like planet since it's like a lion/Puma. So, if Disney wanted to incorporate Giger's runner via comic or film, they would need to set the story on a jungle planet.
@joshXnovak13 жыл бұрын
First?!
@cineffect Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness none of this made it i to the final design of Alien³.
@notsogooddoctor62723 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be completely honest, it SUCKS, that they didn't keep this design.
@THUGSologist3 жыл бұрын
The big chap was a serial killer & did toy with his victims i guess Giger didnt see the original Alien film
@Constantine_IA3 жыл бұрын
Species alien looks like shit though...
@CommanderM8202 ай бұрын
I’m I the only one who thinks this concept is stupid