l4d1 is atmosphere and details, l4d2 is gameplay balance
@unidaboss813311 ай бұрын
L4d2 balance nowadays is kinda wack, especially with terrible hitreg
@Cyberplays1011 ай бұрын
@@unidaboss8133 ya especially in vs the hit detection is terrible as a charger you will sometimes glide off a survivor and not hit em
@imtoolazyforaprofilepic496111 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter. Same price. Content is king, nowadays the purchase of l4d1 over l4d2 is worth it exclusively for nostalgia factors. And if you unnironically play l4d1 nowadays is because you can't afford the superior, you are butthurt the boycott didn't work, a TLS hater incel or a player incapable of dealing with jockeys like a man
@dustlicker311 ай бұрын
@@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961i play l4d2 unironically because i enjoy the game :)
@Leonard_Wolf_205611 ай бұрын
@@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961cry harder.
@nitothememe404711 ай бұрын
I hate that l4d2 deleted most of the skips on the singleplayer maps but it makes sense as it's being more competetive focused
@alastor8091Ай бұрын
>competitive >single player Read what you wrote and realize changing shit for SINGLE PLAYER doesnt make any sense in a competitive environment.
@heyslurpy44 минут бұрын
those changes makes it more challenging since melee are featured in l4d2
@Romantic_Painter11 ай бұрын
I heard that the facial animations of the survivors in l4d1 and the survivors in l4d2 are slightly different. Could you please edit and upload a video of the differences in the facial animations of these two games?
@HSTop11 ай бұрын
I'll think about it, thanks!
@beetheimmortal11 ай бұрын
Interesting how some things were downgraded (like the Mercy hospital enterior), but other things were massively improved. EDIT: I mean it strictly in a visual complexity sense. I never disputed that L4D2's versions play better.
@fvhaudsilhvdfs11 ай бұрын
it's not a downgrade its gameplay optimization. if you had played l4d1 at a high level (i was widely considered the best hunter in north america at one point), you'd know why they removed the chairs from the no mercy lobby
@beetheimmortal11 ай бұрын
@@fvhaudsilhvdfs Sorry, bad wording. I was mostly talking about visual complexity here, but I definitely agree it's a gameplay upgrade.
@dominikcz19811 ай бұрын
l4d1 has the campaigns where they look better, whereas l4d2 has these campaigns, but they are better to actually play on which is far more important
@TimDragonDeckers11 ай бұрын
L4D2 versions of L4D1 maps mostly uses versus versions of it. But I agree that using versus version of the map on a Campaign is sometimes a downgrade in term of visual, though often they made this change in order to compensate for making Jockey/Charger more of a threat that otherwise they have little challenge to deal with. Dead air fences or old no mercy turret platform would make charger a very little or no threat as survivors are relativily safe from falling off. But without fence, charger and jokey are more of an actual threat. This means that survivors usually have to find an alternative position instead of everyone camping in a 'easy to defend' position. Usually a place safe from falling: those are often a enclosed space, which in turn is where spitters might come up to discourage camping all the time. Basically, the game wants a more dynamic gameplay instead of camping in one position all the time and only leave when Tank comes out.
@TheDangvu11 ай бұрын
Because in L4d2 we have charger and jockey. So Valve had to change map or these 2 will be overpower
@MelonGrace11 ай бұрын
They're removing some decoration props in L4D2 because it cause performance issues on some PCs because the Hordes would just kick propa around and sometimes hordes can be overload like way back in the days, so Valve removed them And also in some maps, people also use props to climb into broken spot which made the Ai director stop spawning in the normal infected Of course they can just freeze the props, But then that would goes again the idea of "Source Engines" where the props should be 100% interactable.
@moo.moo9111 ай бұрын
2:42 now that was very clever and original
@hachirothegamer6942011 ай бұрын
2:30
@Jovapex11 ай бұрын
I actually didnt realise how much these maps are changed
@mohamadamirulabdlah608911 ай бұрын
Blood Harvest, Dead Air and Death Toll got a chapter where zombies are spawned endlessly and just need focus on running to the safe room..
@Mrnoobestreturns11 ай бұрын
Well death toll I won’t say it spawns “endless” amounts, unless I’m wrong because every common event for death toll, until the finale only last 3 to 5 minutes, and the entire map of death toll chapter 3, only sends in the common event, once you reach to the safe room, and have to wait till the safe room door is open. so the only time the commons are endless in death toll is when the rescue vehicle appears in chapter 5. Dead air it’s the same thing with 3 to 5 minute common events until chapter 4 where it gives the infinite common event near the end of the map that is endless hordes And blood harvest just increased the infinite hordes, by 2 chapters which is chapter 3 and chapter 4. The strangest part for blood harvest chapter 3 for me is no loud sound is playing once the bridge is destroyed, so I don’t know where these commons are coming from, cuz every other infinite common event has a loud alarm sound. Also just a fun fact, if a tank spawns in a infinite common event spawn, it changes the infinite common spawn to a 3 to 5 minute common event. Due to how the tank in finales stop common spawns when they spawn. So even the chapters I know have infinite common spawns, might not be 100% infinite due to the RNG tank spawns.
@Pluvillion11 ай бұрын
People keep blaming the TLS update because they took out _exploits_ but completely brushing off all the new things it introduced for both campaign and versus. Granted, tricks don't work like they did in L4D1, and how the maps used the VS variant (though it's more of a Valve case from years ago), but the L4D2 version of the maps feel better to play. You won't notice a difference either (unless for major changes like No Mercy finale).
@xzem61311 ай бұрын
HS, I really hope you get 1 million subs, you deserve it man
@hunlepto223911 ай бұрын
I really wish the TLS team could bring back the campaign variants of the maps. They are so much more atmospheric and detailed, because they don't have to really rely on game balance and performance.
@train_go_boom206511 ай бұрын
They can do a rng type of system to add more randomization to the maps
@joao3438611 ай бұрын
@@train_go_boom2065 Not without recompiling the maps, which Valve has firmly disallowed.
@Xenorvya10 ай бұрын
I agree. They should add a system similar to Dead Center's mall. Giving the game a bit more replayability.
@R4NK4Z11 ай бұрын
im happy with almost every change, especially for versus campagne however should have kept all the fun skips and such
@rumiDVD3 ай бұрын
I casually played L4D in middle school on net cafes and recently getting into L4D2. Like, actually tryharding it. I thought I was crazy when I see the No Mercy finale, Death Toll bridge holdout, and Dead Air alarm choke seems so... wrong. The level design is so iconic that it could stick to someone's head decades after playing the game. I didn't remember Blood Harvest because back then the map's too scary for me xD
@Malxer11 ай бұрын
More than a decade later and I still don't know the difference between both games, lol
@TheystolemyShmnuguss11 ай бұрын
that was the cleverest add sponsorship i have ever seen.
@Katana209711 ай бұрын
0:26 this door seems to only open after a map restart. I don't know the pattern, but it is always open if you die and have to restart the map. 1:09 in L4D1 Versus, the mechanism above the opening is higher up, allowing clearance for SI to attack, and drop down into the elevator.
@Katana209711 ай бұрын
Oh that's right. Jogged my memory. I seem to recall seeing an output from the scissor lift that opens that door when I was poking around the map in Hammer. Odd decision by the devs there.
@lostskull746711 ай бұрын
Nah, you guys are wrong about 0:26 (including hstop), that's just one of those spots the director arbitrarily decides to open or close when the map is loaded. It's just like that one room right before the truck yard at Crash Cours's finale.
@HSTop11 ай бұрын
I suspected that it's the director, but I did something wrong and couldn't catch it. Anyway, in L4D2, this door is always open. If I had noticed earlier, I would have removed this moment from the video (just like I did with the doors on The Sacrifice).
@lostskull746711 ай бұрын
@@HSTop Don't worry about it bro. Your work on l4d1&2 is great. (with demoman's voice) Yer' doing good, lad!
@thedude0000-b2j11 ай бұрын
that FUCKING ad tho lmaooooo
@imtoolazyforaprofilepic496111 ай бұрын
I never knew why l4d2 performed better than l4d1 on my ancient pc despite being newer, now i know is due the higher amount of map optimizations
@fabriziomachado505211 ай бұрын
Left 4 dead 2 se enfoca más en el ámbito competitivo, por ello la eliminación de elementos innecesarios como: las camillas, barricadas e incluso añadieron más zonas de respawn y agujeros más grandes para el paso de zombies, sin contar que los ambientes ahora son más claros y visibles.
@imnicked418511 ай бұрын
I knew some of these changes, but goddamn I didn't expect so many. L4D1 versions of these maps are more visually immersive, but the L4D2 versions of these maps are much better from a gameplay and balance perspective
@Destinedfor11 ай бұрын
The only lesson of this video is that the sequel fundamentally open ways that makes versus fluent, and more adversible on strategies, and I mean only on versus.
@imtoolazyforaprofilepic496111 ай бұрын
I love HS Top, is like Crowbcat but without the comment censorship, biased clips and lacking unnecessary drama
@oxideactual101811 ай бұрын
Two completely different channels bud, and Crowbcat opens peoples eyes to the decline of gaming nowadays bias or not.
@imtoolazyforaprofilepic496111 ай бұрын
@@oxideactual1018 In the L4D2 video he skipped former employees switching companies and deleted comments calling him out for his horrendous "critique" of RE4 remake audio while using "proof" from a literal nobody youtube channel with next to no previous post history with barebones arguments as if it was irrefutable. There's something called trust and its easily lost, after that? I can't take him seriously. "Opens people's eyes" I ain't gonna take you seriously either after how religiously you worship that dude and cannot think for youself.
@defaultface7273Сағат бұрын
@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961 A lot of crowbcats videos are pretty questionable as well. Like his gta4/5 comparison felt very unfair and cherry picked.
@tPlayerioT11 ай бұрын
the difference on both are huge. i played left4dead1 once and it took me 10minutes to find whenever was the start event to continue because on left2 it doesnt has it
@Ronel_971911 ай бұрын
Nice work bro ❤🎉
@darkaidenalex355111 ай бұрын
There are so many changed things in L4D1and L4D2 that i never notice it in actual gameplay because its become second nature now, and by the time i actually notice it i get a bit confused
@shoeliver9 ай бұрын
me and my neighbor whenever he came over would play no mercy on l4d1 and hide in the little closet during the finale, and just praying to god that a boomer or zoey doesn't open the door.
@Oskar_.11 ай бұрын
Been watching you since 8 years ago man I love your videos so much❤
@Kirill_19_years_ago11 ай бұрын
Вау!!! Не думал что они могут отличаться...
@meaness11 ай бұрын
Left 4 Dead - на NM стенки в госпитале ломаются не с 1 удара, на 4 карте. Все проходы есть, как и во второй части. (До лифта и после подъёма на крышу, слева). Можно даже в режиме призрака там пройти. (Rotoblin cfg).
@Daniel-qn9rw11 ай бұрын
I miss playing L4D
@scorp1on10411 ай бұрын
Yeah game is not dead
@JJthepro.2 ай бұрын
7:29 Francis: Hey louise, you look like sh!t. Louise: No! *L4d2* Louise: *Laughter* Francis got karma😂
@genierochelle11 ай бұрын
It been so long I didn't play main campaign map😮😮😮😮
@miniboar1211 ай бұрын
Good form for patrocinate 2:29 😎😎👌👌🤟🤟
@VRuslanovichK617611 ай бұрын
9:27 + в первой части если и все же пройти через арочную рамку металоискателя орда не бежит бесконечно
@totallynothyper96411 ай бұрын
7:26 The way Louis said ᴺᵒ!
@justj260111 ай бұрын
The Sacrifice and The Passing next?
@lightningfastman9711 ай бұрын
The AI voice ad... Oof
@AlishaWolfe11 ай бұрын
Left 4 Dead 1 was always my favourite since 2008 ❤
@user-xp8xe8qs6t11 ай бұрын
Sacrifice and chash course не разобрали потому что они были добавленны в обновах?
@Sanya_here11 ай бұрын
А в КС некоторые карты совсем порезали тот же Диззи например хотелось бы походить там более подробно. И понять что же изменилось после событий каэски которые случились явно раньше серии лефты.
@MasonTC10 ай бұрын
Can you do one where you compare the changes of L4D2 maps in both L4D1 & L4D2?
@NickJJH1410 ай бұрын
I love l4d2 but damn do I hate the TLS update .All the glitches that made the game fun got patched. Absolutely no one complained about it.
@brendendonohue2746Ай бұрын
This has nothing to with TLS, these were changes Valve made when they ported over the maps. I can tell you hopped on the TLS hate train just because with a comment like that, a pity.
@NickJJH14Ай бұрын
@@brendendonohue2746 no it's not lmao
@NickJJH14Ай бұрын
@@brendendonohue2746 and the tls update was garbage. There were shortcuts in versus that were patched that didn't bees to be. Especially on the first chapter of dark carnival
@NickJJH14Ай бұрын
@@brendendonohue2746 and I'm not talking about the new survival maps. I'm talking about the maps that existed before TLS.... Doing glitches with the grenade launcher in survival was fun. Did them for over a decade and then tls came... Nice to see they left some shortcuts unpactched on campaign mode. Especially the first chapter of no mercy, very fun skip.
@nathankid7611 ай бұрын
I noticed that but I prefer left 4 dead 1 maps still
@Novax405311 ай бұрын
I love your guys”s videos
@jourcontre-jour128610 күн бұрын
Good video but you forgot to include the L4D2 maps
@allensandmi572911 ай бұрын
Francis giving us ads now
@a6pukoc11310 ай бұрын
Это в ведь старое видео восьмилетней давности, но в новой обёртке, правда?
@Particle_Ghost8 ай бұрын
I have a question. I have never played these before and I understand they've been delisted on Series X, so I'm about to order the disc version online, and I'm only going to really play them single player with bots. Should I order both games or just import the maps from 1 into 2? Some people say the original maps are better because it doesn't have the extra enemy types added in, and that the games are a better experience when separated. If your focus is online, than they say to important because that's where the players are, but for the best single player solo experience, to keep them separated. Any opinions?
@AvaaSlays_SwiftieАй бұрын
Buy both. They’re cheap and you can purchase the dlc through the game still.
@gremblo589510 ай бұрын
Feels like Blood Harvest Map 4 is a direct downgrade in L4D2, cutting off alternate routes.
@ponurezapomnienie9 ай бұрын
Francis is the hottest, most muscular, most handsome, strongest and best gay daddy ever, came while listening him
@samxyz614011 ай бұрын
for real😭
@MangakaConnor11 ай бұрын
0:25 Она же там когда как открыта, тут уже ситуативно
@Leonard_Wolf_205611 ай бұрын
What is important to note is while l4d2 did improve some aspects of l4d1 maps, it also ruint them. Cancelling the improvements.
@GromowSanchous11 ай бұрын
как всегда збс
@minidude127810 ай бұрын
left 4 dead 1 maps make you feel on a real scenario or building, left 4 dead 2 ports makes you feel like you are in a place whit a shit ton of OSHA violations
@svenszymanski121111 ай бұрын
2:26 is this Francis real voice in the Promotion Part?
@itdobelikedattho811211 ай бұрын
AI, my friend
@sweatycommenter11 ай бұрын
its crazy that l4d3 just got leaked
@Futo_no_mononobe11 ай бұрын
Sure
@HUNTERR14711 ай бұрын
Top bro😮
@RetroGaming-gp2ef11 ай бұрын
It’s like they rereleased the original maps, they made them less detailed in the sequel.
@thealex604711 ай бұрын
I like this video bro❤
@brendontaylor7545Ай бұрын
A lot, if not all, of these changes are for gameplay reasons.
@bullshifters60163 ай бұрын
Francis find a new job ,promoter of web sites ajjajja
@Forwhut4 ай бұрын
Why not blood harvest ??
@divinegreed825211 ай бұрын
I mean ngl, l4d1 maps had a lot of special infected camping spots and blind spots
@Invalid3711 ай бұрын
how did you get that crosshair looks nice
@tinybunny217111 ай бұрын
А когда видео по исправленным багам Left 4 Dead 1 ?
@Corvatile11 ай бұрын
The Death Toll church is a major downgrade. The fact the zombies can get into the church from any angle means there's no point trying to defend from the top of the graveyard anymore, everyone just camps in the corner. Also the addition of "fight to the saferoom" endless horde sequences was a terrible idea
@aminali991011 ай бұрын
How to get the crosshair of the video?
@hafizgv11 ай бұрын
huh... hah... love it
@playboikaniiii11 ай бұрын
it's weird that l4d1 has ragdolls on for survivors but l4d2 does not. l4d1 is the more serious game of the two so seeing bill flying after a tank punch with source ragdoll physics puts me off so much
@TM__156611 ай бұрын
The reason why L4D1 has ragdolls for survivors but L4D2 doesn't is because L4D2 introduced the defib, which helps to revive other players
@NoName-st5so11 ай бұрын
How to play in pre-tls version of the game?
@kdamarol820911 ай бұрын
when is the new episode of hs mus
@Aynshtaynn11 ай бұрын
Campaign changes in L4D2 No Mercy Rooftop are kind of downgrade, since there is no spawn points for survivors who died before finale start anymore.
@BriJeeTVGameDev11 ай бұрын
l4d feels more real life corrected but l4d2 is simpler for humans and handy for specials in versus
@Sanya_here11 ай бұрын
9:40 Ну зачем добавили огонь? Это же просто перенос кампании для чего все эти ненужности?
@Sanya_here11 ай бұрын
5:45 Да! Вот именно! И мне интересно зачем и почему?
@laz.271411 ай бұрын
haahahah W francis promotion of keydrop
@Memessssss11 ай бұрын
L4d1 has more skips, l4d2 has other glitches to skip
@mattiag184611 ай бұрын
02:00 There's not much point in it being usable
@Sanya_here11 ай бұрын
8:40 И здесь тоже я не понимаю зачем забор нужно было ставить?
@Hyper5ound11 ай бұрын
So good to be third in comments
@Dr.valentine11 ай бұрын
Инккк, сделай прохождения л4д2 всех компаний. С мутацией где нельзя падать. Зови друзей, будет весело.
@_HotShid_11 ай бұрын
1:43 Эта стена и до TLS ломалась же?
@HSTop11 ай бұрын
Скачивал до TLS версию, не увидел там текстуры чтобы сломать стенку, разве что за танка можно, да
@_HotShid_11 ай бұрын
@@HSTop А, ну может так и есть. Просто 100% помню, что ломалась та стена
@joao3438611 ай бұрын
@@HSTop Pre-TLS that wall was only breakable by tank, TLS updated it so all infected could break it.
@Dr.Andrew.Uncle_DaneАй бұрын
i'am hate ads
@OVERHEAVENchilla11 ай бұрын
INC лучший
@ruzcelbeltran11 ай бұрын
What a great evolution for left 4 dead i wonder when left 4 dead 2 is coming?
@yugoksuf11 ай бұрын
Why are you still researching every details about l4d , are you valve or something?
@Watts202011 ай бұрын
He’s valve and he said to me he will ban you in l4d for being an Alien.
@Govnyasha199311 ай бұрын
Ещё один гвоздь в гроб лефты2
@eraliaidarbekob927811 ай бұрын
Где inc он что пропал
@crashez262011 ай бұрын
Очередной последний видос по l4d на канале 😊
@meaness11 ай бұрын
Как по мне - первая часть всё же была намного лучше и атмосфернее. Вторая часть - как будто дешёвый треш-фильм.
@JUP17ER11 ай бұрын
I hate ping
@milespl11 ай бұрын
You have a nice tik tok account
@user-mw8sl7cx5i11 ай бұрын
Ти топ
@itdobelikedattho811211 ай бұрын
Ти?
@user-mw8sl7cx5i11 ай бұрын
@@itdobelikedattho8112 ти
@FürPreußen11 ай бұрын
hmmmm
@saltysugar508111 ай бұрын
Ложь! Френсис не ненавидит только жилеты!
@user-io6hz8sn9c11 ай бұрын
я первый ииху
@1634smith11 ай бұрын
Wow no Dark Carnival my favourite map unsub 😢
@Futo_no_mononobe11 ай бұрын
Lmao
@Frying1Pans11 ай бұрын
moral of the story: tls update was awful
@joao3438611 ай бұрын
Video: *Shows improvements from the update* Dumbass on KZbin: "TLS WaS AwFuL!1!11"
@oxideactual101811 ай бұрын
And your story is you lack the intelligence to know that Valve did all this to the L4D1 maps years and years ago. Go back to school. And TLS was actually well received. Cope😁