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HSV GTS v Ford Falcon XR Sprints Drag Race

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We put the finest from HSV and Ford head on track and dyno in the search for Australia's mightiest car
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@EnkeiTenjin
@EnkeiTenjin 7 жыл бұрын
"lets get a pom to host a last-aussie muscle comparison"
@alexmartin9951
@alexmartin9951 3 жыл бұрын
@John K Ha ha Be politically correct!! The term is "Sexually challenged" 🤣
@lsingo23
@lsingo23 6 жыл бұрын
Well the xr6 turbo wins fastest aussie car as it's the only one that's engine was designed, engineered and manufactured in Australia
@brownie2917
@brownie2917 4 жыл бұрын
I bet your boyfriend loves it
@andrewpelly2388
@andrewpelly2388 4 жыл бұрын
Who cares
@falsetrinitydoctrine9500
@falsetrinitydoctrine9500 7 жыл бұрын
ive seen 12.5 on a stock XR6 sprint in cold conditions. your driver is slow.
@stevev6002
@stevev6002 4 жыл бұрын
seemed relative. Shit track etc
@rampage351
@rampage351 4 жыл бұрын
100% By memory, Luke Youldon is a holden driver. He did a piss poor take off. I have seen an FGX XR8 Sprint manual doing 12.65 with factory tires. This video is a croc. Amazing to see the dyno stats. Ford claim 345kw at the flywheel, dyno results claim 359rwkw...NICE 😁👍.
@turbosrshit336
@turbosrshit336 3 жыл бұрын
Was that the same night you seen jesus
@hesgotamotor8288
@hesgotamotor8288 3 жыл бұрын
He was a loser in the v8 supercars too, probably because he wheel spins
@hesgotamotor8288
@hesgotamotor8288 3 жыл бұрын
@@turbosrshit336 no it was the same night ford won their second championship, manufacturing title and team title, in the v8 supercars and and and, nasscar etc how's those holden rally cars going eh? Pfff
@ike780
@ike780 7 жыл бұрын
My Condolences to Aussie Ford and Holden. I wish we were not taking them over. Mustangs and Camaros are dime a dozen here but we've truly been impressed to the point of envy at what you guys have locally made. Monaro, Falcon, and Valiant Charger are some good looking cars. My faves are XB falcon, HQ Monaro, and VH Charger. Like all great muscle cars, we wont forget what Australia has accomplished.
@jamesavery6671
@jamesavery6671 7 жыл бұрын
naw we have the best looking cars especially old muscle
@hesgotamotor8288
@hesgotamotor8288 3 жыл бұрын
Ford is ford, all the same, where its falcon or mustang doesn't matter, holden is only a brand, holden uses buik 6 cylinder engines and Chevrolet v8s, Ford uses ford engines, that's a big fuck off to holden
@nickycrea6075
@nickycrea6075 3 жыл бұрын
​@@hesgotamotor8288 The Mustang was not a replacement to the Falcon. A half baked Mustang sent to Australia when the American version had more power. That was a kick it the teeth to Australians. you may not like Holden but you should respect what they achieved before GM sucked the life out of them. And its sad both Ford Australia and Holden are no longer.
@gteam2
@gteam2 6 жыл бұрын
In true Australian form, there is a Brit speaking for us, ffs
@haydent135
@haydent135 8 жыл бұрын
Yes no real surprises, but certainly not the last word in figures. All three have seen far better sprint times than those recorded here. The GTS for example is seeing 4.4s and as low as 4.2s in ideal conditions. Both the Ford offerings are also comfortably going below 5 seconds. (as they should the 08 G6ET was getting 4.9s)
@mr.gasser4521
@mr.gasser4521 7 жыл бұрын
Did you know that 85% of holdens made are still on the road? The other 15% actually made it home.
@jackwasley8091
@jackwasley8091 7 жыл бұрын
Mrturtleobama f
@blampa
@blampa 6 жыл бұрын
shovon ski bullshit. I worked at Holden for 8 months and can attest to the shit attitude. Ford got rid of the shitcunt factory workers; Holden promoted them.
@YessirPauly
@YessirPauly 5 жыл бұрын
@@blampa you triggered? 😅
@TaumaGaming
@TaumaGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Your stats is all wrong lol? Holden has over 39 recalls, and funny enough, all I see on the roads without problems is Fords
@brownie2917
@brownie2917 4 жыл бұрын
Id rather push my holden than drive a shit ford
@myxrutefalcon269
@myxrutefalcon269 5 жыл бұрын
Luke can't drive THE xr6t will do high 12s all day.
@nickycrea6075
@nickycrea6075 3 жыл бұрын
a former race car driver cant drive??
@genuinestance387
@genuinestance387 2 жыл бұрын
anything to suit yourself aye🤣
@robertjames1324
@robertjames1324 6 күн бұрын
Ain't that the truth. I found the end Dyno figures very interesting. The Fords have always been under tired. I think if they had a sticky 285 they would right up that hp over rated inefficient 6.2 litre v8. Ford disappointed me no end when you know that FPV planned and developed the miami engine to run 485 killer wasps but Ford Australia said no. So typical of Ford Australia at that time. It was about killing sales...killing name, not promoting
@r1daki
@r1daki 6 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you guys match them up properly and use a manual in all vehicles. I expected the hsv gts to have the best 1/4 mile time but, If driven properly the xr8 is good for a high 12 pass. So something not right there in that test.
@4217sp
@4217sp 8 жыл бұрын
Spend an extra 3 grand on the xr6 and the other two will be looking for new doors
@straya1109
@straya1109 8 жыл бұрын
but this is a stock race
@boosts14
@boosts14 8 жыл бұрын
same could be said about a dyno tune on the s/c cars. any of the three are a good platform, just comes down to preference.
@myjizzureye
@myjizzureye 7 жыл бұрын
I own a new Gen 2 GTS and I can confirm that fat people in mobility scooters can pass me off the line in the wet. Its fucking useless in the wet, and not much better in the dry. There is just fuck all traction when you have ass raping mountains of torque on tap at low revs. Bang for buck you cant go past an XR6 turbo, only older worked AWD subies and nissans are faster, but with a lot more dollars into them.
@legoman911
@legoman911 7 жыл бұрын
Kieren Alvarez you are right about inline 6 turbo's being the ultimate street weapon, but remember where they came from - Supras and Skylines -2J's and RB's. These cars are still relevant today and they are 23 yrs old now !
@apinahu9365
@apinahu9365 6 жыл бұрын
6 grand and it will be making 407rwkw
@TahsinZaman
@TahsinZaman 7 жыл бұрын
The driver looked very biased. It's like he didn't want the Ford to win so went easy on it an claims to not hit the rev limiter 1:58.
@EnkeiTenjin
@EnkeiTenjin 7 жыл бұрын
Motoring Australia lmao rekt.
@roughgooch7859
@roughgooch7859 5 жыл бұрын
Motoring Australia bs otherwise he would’ve known to boost launch the sprint
@simonmiller5118
@simonmiller5118 4 жыл бұрын
They're all awesome cars and sadly missed.
@joellyboy1993
@joellyboy1993 6 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how Ford are able to get 359.3 RWkW out of the XR8's 5.0L engine, yet holden are only able to push 329.6RWkW out of an engine 1.2L larger. Wrap those XR8 wheels in decent rubber and you'd easily see figures closer to 4.6 seconds.
@Leefryyinc
@Leefryyinc 2 жыл бұрын
Ford has a smaller charger too.
@JohnWilliamsGTS
@JohnWilliamsGTS Жыл бұрын
@@Leefryyinc Does not. They both use a 1.9L Supercharger
@callumandrews4342
@callumandrews4342 8 жыл бұрын
276.4 kw for the XR6 Sprint? Something's not right there...
@Cykoid
@Cykoid 8 жыл бұрын
yep definately not right never seen any of these falcons under 320rwkw
@jordanwilliams6820
@jordanwilliams6820 7 жыл бұрын
Cykoid its atw power, they make 325 from the crank
@jordanwilliams6820
@jordanwilliams6820 7 жыл бұрын
16 not 370atw
@user-sn8wu6kw1p
@user-sn8wu6kw1p 7 жыл бұрын
370 at the engine 280 at the wheels There's no way
@jordanwilliams6820
@jordanwilliams6820 7 жыл бұрын
sounds about right
@yeahnah7796
@yeahnah7796 3 жыл бұрын
This doesn’t make sense Youlden says of the XR8 “the difference between this car and the other cars is it’s an auto” Yet all XR6 Sprints were auto 🤯 Somethings going on here
@robertjames1324
@robertjames1324 6 күн бұрын
I picked up on that. Something on the nose here. It tells me that one isn't auto. I have a tweeked Super Pursuit that runs 355s on the rear and 295s front. I can not understand that he couldn't read the feel of throttle...engine load etc to assist with a quick time....not making any sense
@druscanam
@druscanam 8 жыл бұрын
I've noticed your measuring power in Rear wheel Kilowatts. If the numbers are true HSV is not telling porkpies as you loose about 25% of power through the drivetrain. ie a car with 200kw will read 150kw on the dyno. To calculate the engine power divided the figure by 0.75. If you do this with the HSV you get 439.4kw which is about on the money.
@TheBASR05
@TheBASR05 7 жыл бұрын
except that it was manual which would be closer to 15% loss so doesnt make 430kw .. just like walkinshaws w547 cant beat a 396rwkw ba turbo
@EnkeiTenjin
@EnkeiTenjin 7 жыл бұрын
TheBASR05 fuck max power figures. Why does no one ever compare usable torque though the rev range. Look who makes more torque and where, and that will tell you exactly who winner should be of two comparable weight vehicles.
@nathan2483
@nathan2483 6 жыл бұрын
Wrong on both accounts. The true test of a cars real power, is the trap speed. You measure it against the weight of a vehicle and you can get a very close representation of the power of the vehicle. But everyone knows that Ford will make more power than the Holden, so why did they lift off in the xr8? The trap vs the et don't match. Not even close. Another add paid for by Holden.... And the media wonder why nobody believes them? The Ford 8 will destroy both of the other cars full stop. You can't give away 30rwkw. That's basically 50rwhp or 37 flywheel kilowatts
@sudz2522
@sudz2522 6 жыл бұрын
Swipez bogans just want to here which one has the biggest figure or shortest time, actual data is irrevelant in these sad 3 minute videos. Either way all of these cars could be vastly improved with a decent set slicks or semis.
@user-wg4hz3bk4f
@user-wg4hz3bk4f 7 жыл бұрын
Drove an XR8 Sprint the other day - good engine but lacks traction.
@__PJ__
@__PJ__ 2 жыл бұрын
Proper semi slicks fixes that, get rid of the rubbish Ford put on them.
@nathan2483
@nathan2483 6 жыл бұрын
A 180 trap and 30rwkw advantage says this is yet again another bullshit test. How much did Holden pay you this time... someone's telling pork pies alright....
@russellcoight1423
@russellcoight1423 6 жыл бұрын
Nathan Porter he also said he couldn’t load up the torque converter above 1500 RPM or it’d break out into wheel spin, but the XR8 has launch control in the autos! From memory it needs to be in drive, and foot on brake and full throttle. Should load up to 2000rpm with no wheel spin. A proper launch may have made a slightly better result, but the XR8 and still notoriously hard to get the power down off the mark.
@thrillseekanz7874
@thrillseekanz7874 6 жыл бұрын
m4rcd27 the mighty lion couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding, obviously the clown driving couldn't deal with actual power. Watch the dyno section where wheels couldn't fake anything to see who eats who. Go back to your Vectra
@smithy2
@smithy2 6 жыл бұрын
I love ford but the autos gearing is horrible id say thats the difference in performance, rolling start the xr8 would shit on the hsv all day
@Alex-theez
@Alex-theez 5 жыл бұрын
Its not always about power and figures you dumb fucks, obviously the gts is better set up suspension wise, has a better drive train over the xr8 sprint (coyote motors have so many more moving parts than an ls leading to slower acceleration) the xr8s in launch control would actually give it a worse trap time because it doesnt allow wheel spin so it will always bog down to try and gain traction, and simply the xr6 sprint is just that....its an inline 6 turbo its going to need time to spool up a little to get its legs going back into the race where the gts has power from the moment you stab your foot in. Face it, Ford is and always will be sub-par to Holden
@johntaylor532
@johntaylor532 5 жыл бұрын
You are correct. The turbos 6 is significantly quicker as an auto & not a manual and the XR8 is quicker as a manual & not as an auto. This was a stitch up to make the fords slowest.
@rickydriver270
@rickydriver270 7 жыл бұрын
Don't know why people are saying the xr6 sprint is 270kw at the fly... They're 310... I hate when people try to engage in debates when they don't even know what they're talking about from the word go.
@user-sn8wu6kw1p
@user-sn8wu6kw1p 7 жыл бұрын
Ricky Driver The xr6 sprint isn't 310?
@rickydriver270
@rickydriver270 7 жыл бұрын
+16 Actually, you're right, I forgot, it's 325kw
@user-sn8wu6kw1p
@user-sn8wu6kw1p 7 жыл бұрын
Ricky Driver LOOK AT THIS, I didn't get abused Oh my god congratulations sir I love you
@shanebujnowicz3356
@shanebujnowicz3356 7 жыл бұрын
325 but hits 370 on over boost..xr8 400.on overboost
@nathan2483
@nathan2483 6 жыл бұрын
Actually at the wheels it should be right on 300. But you're both closer to the money because Ford underestimates power/torque figures on all performance cars. They have since the 60's. It's been a very long time since we've seen a motoring journalist in Australia with a conscience. Both Ford figures, dyno and 1/4 are fudged. The numbers don't match
@micko9111
@micko9111 Жыл бұрын
The numbers don’t lie you Cleary fixed the race
@chillpill4936
@chillpill4936 7 жыл бұрын
typical Holden telling the Australian public CRAP
@H0LDENSUX
@H0LDENSUX 5 жыл бұрын
Still the Falcon wins as the MOST Australian made car courtesy of the Inline 6 Cylinder engine. Even today, Mercedes has returned to the straight 6 because the Germans know that layout engine is superior than its V6 Counterpart. Only Nissan makes the best 6 cylinder engines in the world.
@TrueDaturaMindNz
@TrueDaturaMindNz Жыл бұрын
2jz is the best followed by barra
@jimmynoodlepickle740
@jimmynoodlepickle740 Жыл бұрын
@@TrueDaturaMindNz Debatable
@TrueDaturaMindNz
@TrueDaturaMindNz Жыл бұрын
@@jimmynoodlepickle740 barras better easier too get just not aswell built
@Ihaveabigbrownbear
@Ihaveabigbrownbear 7 жыл бұрын
Heathcote drag strip is one of the worst traction surfaces in the country, you'd be better off holding this test on the main road outside the facility. Most of the time the trap speed and time is missing from the left lane, there's always a shitload of dirt/dust laying on the track. Had this test been held at willowbank or a similar hi traction surface the times would have been much better. Can't blame the driver here guys, Luke knows how to operate fast cars, just lack of surface traction and street tyres making for a poor 60ft time, lauch and Et. Australia has made some wicked quick cars and these lot are nothing shy of awesome. Rest in peace Australian motoring industry, you gave us something to cheer about for many years. To those who think the skyline and supra were the god father to turbo sixes, let it be known that ford was turbocharging as early as the XF (1986), they had built an awd, twin turbo crossflow and was followed by the EA which was available from Ait as a turbo 3.9l six.
@bears2604
@bears2604 3 жыл бұрын
The hsv has $750 tyres "each" from factory, basically a road slick. If the ford v8 had them with no early shifts and poor lurnch, it would be a different story. Slack for these reviews not to mention and leave everyone wondering why a more powerful car is slower.
@mrdollamike1856
@mrdollamike1856 6 ай бұрын
Someone’s a salty xrshit owner take the loss and shoosh 🤪
@TheHusky2001
@TheHusky2001 8 жыл бұрын
funny how the xr6 crossed the line at 177 kph and the xr8 at 180 kph but there is a in car camera shot from the xr8 showing the xr6 pulling away? funny that it can pull away with less speed!
@WtfAreYouGonnaDo
@WtfAreYouGonnaDo 7 жыл бұрын
TheHusky2001 maybe it as faster acceleration but a lower top speed at the end of the drag strip the xr8 would been catching up but by then it would be too late. I think in a 1 mile drag race the xr8 would of one with its higher top speed.
@hesgotamotor8288
@hesgotamotor8288 3 жыл бұрын
@Jimmi Johnson the holden? Or the Chevrolet? Neither can drive with out the other. Ford has a ford engine, hands down winner, the holden needs a big block Chevrolet engine to for a bit faster if it even does
@hesgotamotor8288
@hesgotamotor8288 3 жыл бұрын
@Jimmi Johnson shows you how much attention I pay to piles of rubbish,
@hesgotamotor8288
@hesgotamotor8288 3 жыл бұрын
@Jimmi Johnson dude. FORD vs Ferrari, a big movie highly rated, where's the holden movie?????? Pfffff fords the car company dude, class
@mrporsche4236
@mrporsche4236 3 жыл бұрын
If its catching up it means its going faster
@bigballstouchem1560
@bigballstouchem1560 8 жыл бұрын
crap drag racing..
@AlsAllAussieAdventures
@AlsAllAussieAdventures 6 жыл бұрын
Faster down the strip, faster around a track, better build quality, better interior, safer, far better brakes.... ahahha HSV IS THE KING OF AUSSIE CARS!!!!
@thrillseekanz7874
@thrillseekanz7874 6 жыл бұрын
ASD350SXF crap. They are slower with competent driver's, make less power and if you think they are built better stop drinking turps. 6.2 and supercharged, still 35rwkw down on a little 5.0? Go play with ya pushrods princess
@ohyeahyeah3278
@ohyeahyeah3278 5 жыл бұрын
ThrillSeeka New Zealand ford shit haha
@rocketmagnet427
@rocketmagnet427 5 жыл бұрын
@@thrillseekanz7874 but still up on torque. Also the lsa powered cars and utes use the stronger gearbox 9.9" diff and bigger driveshafts. All things that use more power. Out on the road the gts is faster and better in every way
@potaka79
@potaka79 5 жыл бұрын
Yet you don't drive one. Back to the bus stop with you. #idiot
@Rexy888
@Rexy888 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed fords r shit
@braddeicide
@braddeicide 7 жыл бұрын
Falcon has stiffer rear suspension so it has good row ratings, Holden has softer suspension which is good for drags but led to uselessly low tow ratings.
@princeofallsaiyans4114
@princeofallsaiyans4114 6 жыл бұрын
Xr6 turbo sprint is over 320kw not 270kw
@ryanctliu
@ryanctliu 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice result!
@jaimusicxx
@jaimusicxx 8 жыл бұрын
thank you guys for the fantastic comparison! no real surprises; well done - I am sure it was a lot of fun for you guys too! Ps love your KZbin Channel
@jimclarke1108
@jimclarke1108 4 жыл бұрын
XR6 anytime for me
@berserka
@berserka 3 жыл бұрын
Not that I own a Sprint, or a Auto, but my 6 speed manual FG F6 lacks grips on factory wheels and tyres. Sadly Ford should have opted for a wheel package that offered wider wheels and grippier (word?) tyres.
@cargamingcontent1344
@cargamingcontent1344 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a auto GTS run a 12.1 stock
@strawboi
@strawboi 6 жыл бұрын
6.2 litre v8 plus a supercharger for a 4.9 seconds 0-100. My god that’s some efficiency there
@andrewpelly2388
@andrewpelly2388 4 жыл бұрын
Ur a soy boy 4 cylinder fanboy tosser aren't you ronq?
@CurtisLSA
@CurtisLSA 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewpelly2388 probably spent 100,000 on his milk carton also
@hesgotamotor8288
@hesgotamotor8288 3 жыл бұрын
Fuckin rubbish, itle shit its guts before any ford engine,
@hesgotamotor8288
@hesgotamotor8288 3 жыл бұрын
@John Winzil fuck off but muncher, holden is crap holden is dead ,now fuck off
@grookernana9676
@grookernana9676 3 жыл бұрын
@@hesgotamotor8288 fuck off dickhead
@stanotomy5169
@stanotomy5169 7 жыл бұрын
The New sprint is Australia's Fastest and last ever falcon built. If the Hsv can barely handle the less capable Xr6 Turbo then I don't understand how it over came the sprints. Especially the Xr6 sprint while Hsv is producing they're new Gts r, I don't think it should be known as Australia's fastest car ever built due to the "Chevrolet Corvette Engine" Holden and Hsv especially have drifted away from producing Real Aussie Vehicle's Unlike the Ford Falcon which has it's own Australian built and engineered engine!
@ashcosmo3854
@ashcosmo3854 7 жыл бұрын
Falcons have the worst drive lines in Australia, hence why Falcons need diff bushes repaired every 15000k's. My videos will show you how badly these cars are made.. power is nothing without the chassis to back it up.
@XxSCaaRyFiEnDxX
@XxSCaaRyFiEnDxX 7 жыл бұрын
Agree, bit of a cop out Holden call the HSV's an Australian icon when the engine is imported straight from the USA.
@ashcosmo3854
@ashcosmo3854 5 жыл бұрын
@Matt Mus My FGX diff bush was noisy after only from brand new 5000kms. Ford have absolutely no idea how to put a car together
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 4 жыл бұрын
Ash Cosmo Where’s ur evidence cause I don’t see it Mr know it all. My grandfathers EL has had nearly no issues with the chassis and diff related things and it’s done over 200,000 kilometres so I think ur just trying to devalue the FG X. Anyway have fun rapping a Bommodore around a tree or a pole with that horrible sounding LS motor.
@johnboy5167
@johnboy5167 2 жыл бұрын
@@smartey2612 dummy 😄
@Wakethefuckup67
@Wakethefuckup67 6 жыл бұрын
The standard F6310 out of the box runs mid 12's all day every day... and it is slightly under-powered vs the XR6 sprint which also has the over boost function... yet the XR6 sprint here is just clicking over 13's..?
@roughgooch7859
@roughgooch7859 5 жыл бұрын
Holden test driver who’s never boost launched a Barra most likely
@martinquarrell6972
@martinquarrell6972 11 күн бұрын
A National disaster that this was allowed to disappear.
@McobraR
@McobraR 4 жыл бұрын
XR8 has an automatic overboost function depending on temperatures. My guess is the conditions during the drag race wasn't sufficient so it was off (as why it lost), but during the dyno test it was cool enough so it was on (as why it made the most power)
@micko9111
@micko9111 Жыл бұрын
They fixed it so the Holden would win…I know for a fact they can run 12.6
@optiksnipegaming9720
@optiksnipegaming9720 Жыл бұрын
Ford boys angry 😂.
@McobraR
@McobraR Жыл бұрын
@optiksnipe gaming You failed by assuming I'm a Ford boy, even tho I was merely explaining a possible technical reason for its higher dyno power yet slower time. But your assumption of me clearly implies you as a Holden boy - boys that think they still have relevance today, supporting a dead brand no one ever wants to bring back 🤣. Run along, and thanks for commenting.
@crazyworld7115
@crazyworld7115 Жыл бұрын
The gts is around 40.000 + more expensive and only a fleas dick faster? I know where my money would be going...
@johnboy5167
@johnboy5167 Жыл бұрын
The hsv will always be faster than the 2 fords it has way more torque than both and gets the power down better 👍
@bushwhacker__
@bushwhacker__ 7 жыл бұрын
The Sprint model was an opportunity to not only put a more complete package together but fix that horrendous styling. Shame they didn't deliver on the latter. Styling it to be a 'sleeper'...why?? To blow the doors of the unsuspecting rev head at the lights. Just look at the Sprints lined up next to the GTS at 0.08. Look like a pair of Fairmonts
@thrillseekanz7874
@thrillseekanz7874 6 жыл бұрын
seth8282 you mean they look classy and understated next to that plastic whale? Look at a VY HSV tell me how well that's aged.
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 13.114 for the XR6 Sprint? Only a learner driver would pull something like that off. I’ve seen them run high to mid 12s stock. Not only that but I’ve seen people do 0-100 times of around 4.5 seconds. Poor effort motoring.
@marty232
@marty232 6 жыл бұрын
isnt the gts hsv 50 grand more then the xr6 sprint
@roughgooch7859
@roughgooch7859 5 жыл бұрын
And with that’ extra 50 grand the sprint will have more then doubled the Gts’s power and reliably too. I’d rather spend the money on a lighter VY/VZ with a twin turbo 408 stroker than buy a GTS
@mattb806
@mattb806 7 жыл бұрын
HSV and Holden finished when they stopped making AUSTRALIAN engines and started putting in American push rod's in the late 90's. If Ford put the Amercian Mustang GT350 engine in a Falcon, would that make Ford the fastest and most powerful in Australia? Ford made aussie V8's for Aussie people who believed in Australian engineering. Well done Ford. Ford turned up the heat with the 335 supercharged and all of a sudden GM put their supercharged in to match. Australian engineered Ford's all the way!!!
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 6 жыл бұрын
Matt B with you on that one
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 6 жыл бұрын
m4rcd27 the 351 Xa GT HO engine you numskull!!!
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 6 жыл бұрын
m4rcd27 mind you it’s actually different to the mustang engine in the old boss 302
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 6 жыл бұрын
m4rcd27 hold on I’m not saying mustangs are Aussie cars it’s a Mexican build piece of crap. I would never own one of them in my life mate.
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 6 жыл бұрын
m4rcd27 and if you think the boss is not made here that’s fine but if you say your LS piece of crap is made here think again you American
@robhardimon6140
@robhardimon6140 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed something but did they put the hsv against the sprint?.
@kapt1an_caveman
@kapt1an_caveman 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder what tyres they were all running for a start,
@danielbrealey2924
@danielbrealey2924 7 жыл бұрын
It seems you guys had a bit of a dud HSV there or your telling us porkie pies!!! Everyone else seems to run 12.1's in these things, is your driver that shit? He's 0.6 seconds behind every other journo who's raced it. Even the Falcon is capable of high 12's. Then those dyno figures were displayed, maybe it was just a lemon. The in the seat of the pants feel puts the HSV at least 80 - 100kw over the Falcon, they both weigh roughly the same- so what's the deal??? How do you figure the HSV had that much less power but was that much faster?!? Doesn't add up does it guys, something very fishing going on here
@carnut9193
@carnut9193 7 жыл бұрын
HSV has better traction. Half the story with drag racing is getting off the line and maintaining traction.
@ike780
@ike780 7 жыл бұрын
I think Car Nut has is right. Ford has always held its own against GM even here in the states often times being faster but they tend to put less thought into shodding our mustangs with proper tires than GM and dodge. I'd guess that our Aussie brothers might be making the same error at their factory.
@danielbrealey2924
@danielbrealey2924 7 жыл бұрын
+Ike They literally got a dud one bro. They responded and agreed. It happens sometimes. This particular HSV was over 0.6 of a second slower than everyone else who has tested one of the exact same type of car...
@ike780
@ike780 7 жыл бұрын
I believe it. But the Ford has 345 kw from a 5.0L while the holden has around 304 from a 6.2L. There's no reason the holden should be faster other than the ford having bad tires. Many ford owners re tire their cars because while ford puts a lot under the hood, they skimp where it meets the road.
@danielbrealey2924
@danielbrealey2924 7 жыл бұрын
+Ike That's an LSA powered GTS bro, it's got a lot more than 304kw!!! Some of the previous gen, Clubsports had the 304kw engine, but that was N/A. HSV claimed like 400kw for these didn't they? I'm 95% sure they did advertise that as the power... The 345kw Ford claims actually doesn't include the over boost function! I was surprised when I found that out,, but they make heaps more in the right conditions when the ECU will allow this 15 second over boost. I'm a die hard GM man, but I'd own either of these cars. They both have positives and negatives, and both respond very well to modifications- the most important factor overall!!! LOL! ;) I can't leave anything alone, I'm a mechanic by trade and my daily driver runs flat 10's over the 1/4 on low boost
@WHOHATESTOWORK
@WHOHATESTOWORK 4 жыл бұрын
6.2ltr sprchrgd vs 5.0ltr sprchrgd…that commy wasnt that much quicker for xtra 1200cc lmao
@johnnyhohenzollern165
@johnnyhohenzollern165 5 жыл бұрын
Dyno figure results are just bullshit, how come the XR8 Sprint got up to 359.3rwKws while the manufacturer only wrote 335Kws max output from its engine? The most powerful Ford falcon has ever been produced in Oz is the FPV GT-F which got only 351Kws from the engine.
@nezzy2121
@nezzy2121 7 жыл бұрын
wait wait why didn't they put the fpv against the hsv? wouldn't it be more fair to put a holden commodore ss up against the 2 falcons??
@nezzy2121
@nezzy2121 7 жыл бұрын
2004PontiacGTO ik it sucks but they still could have put the 2014 gt-f against it. oh and holdens gonna be gone this year. yet another sad year :(
@thebetterversionofme2959
@thebetterversionofme2959 4 жыл бұрын
The XR6 Sprint is the most powerful iteration of the 4.0 turbo 6...which was already renowned for being faster than any FPV V8 in a straight line...without the added tune of the Sprint. The F6 310 turned a GT-F to dust in a drag race.
@Chabobox1
@Chabobox1 4 жыл бұрын
The regular XR8 is based on the FPV GT 335 R-Spec, the Sprint is upgraded more and the XR6 Sprint is the most powerful factory version of that Barra.
@cameronvanhooft
@cameronvanhooft 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen stock XR8 & XR6 Sprint's do much better times at Willowbank..
@bslothed3211
@bslothed3211 Жыл бұрын
Ikr lmao, I've seen an intake only XR6 T FGX do a 12.1, different tyres of course
@robertjames1324
@robertjames1324 6 күн бұрын
To much lack of detail. What tyres were being run...etc
@glenmorris8405
@glenmorris8405 8 жыл бұрын
Nice to see HSV is underpowered yet still shits on Found On Rusty Dump hah ha
@calamtransgression9264
@calamtransgression9264 6 жыл бұрын
glen morris Homo's and Sheila's Vehicles. Fords tickford FPV and even Mitsubishi Magna and chrystler charger are Australian cars. You use Opels Vauxhall Buicks and Chevrolets with Buick v6's and Chevy v8's Holden is a fucking con fake bullshit even stole the song it's not football meat pies kangaroos and Holden cars it's actually baseball hotdogs apple pies and Chevrolet. And you fucking muppets fell for it and not one Holden has ever been released with a Holden Australia on any compliance plate because it's fraud. We're as all Falcons and territories have Ford Motor company Australia.And you probably drive a v6 single spinner lame burnout with Chevy badges fucking loser!
@phoenix20401
@phoenix20401 5 жыл бұрын
something isnt smelling right. those numbers dont look quite right to me.
@jameslovett8697
@jameslovett8697 7 жыл бұрын
why such slow 0-100 times?
@jakethomas4913
@jakethomas4913 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, I knew my xr6 turbo was quicker than the xr8 supercharged hahHAha
@stevethompson222
@stevethompson222 6 жыл бұрын
Dreaming. They walked the xr8 off the line like they were leaving Sunday church.
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 4 жыл бұрын
Pedder Griffin if ur an actual car enthusiast u wouldn’t be making fun of both of these models. I respect both Barra and Miami. Maybe Barra by just a bit. That Miami engine though is a beauty.
@Kaydencool2013
@Kaydencool2013 4 жыл бұрын
The xr6 was a manual and the xr8 was an auto. Listen to what he says and you won't look like a muppet.
@Cliffy1616
@Cliffy1616 3 жыл бұрын
Shane Wait do You mean the Xr6 Sprint in this video was a manual? If so you’re just wrong as there were NO Xr6 Sprints made with a Manual transmission. They were all Auto only.
@Krackerz92
@Krackerz92 5 жыл бұрын
I'm calling a little bit of bullshit here, I've done a 13.120 in a bog stock FGMK1 G6E Turbo, dyno tested 236rwkw, I don't see how the times of the falcons can be so close in times with such a massive power difference
@yammy071
@yammy071 6 жыл бұрын
Holden workers Holden driver Good try. Now It's in this order: 1) Ford XR6 2) Ford XR8 3) Holden hsv
@menatworklanddownunder3955
@menatworklanddownunder3955 5 жыл бұрын
No no no holden is a austarillan base company hsv goes first and that last year was the crap year and that test is bullshit the 2011 can beat bought cars it’s a holden a hsv the best if Brock is didn’t pass holden would still be strong
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 4 жыл бұрын
Men at work Land down under Unfortunately for u mate the Falcon Sprint 6 is the most Aussie out of the 3.
@Chabobox1
@Chabobox1 4 жыл бұрын
@@smartey2612 With the HSV being the least because the 8 has a locally developed Coyote motor while the HSV has an all American engine.
@johnboy5167
@johnboy5167 Жыл бұрын
Ali d low intelligence comment 😂
@timdelaforce727
@timdelaforce727 6 жыл бұрын
How can the xr8 be 360kw at the wheels when it's 345kw at the motor
@akashsandhu5719
@akashsandhu5719 5 жыл бұрын
Tim Delaforce maybe the 10% over boost
@BruceLee-sw4ms
@BruceLee-sw4ms 3 жыл бұрын
Ford often under estimate the power , my Mustang dyno 320 rwkw and the advertised power is 339 kw fly wheel 98:octane . In the USA mustangs dyno even higher too. Surely they lose more than 19 kw. PS : Eastern Creek - stock 10 days old 12.2 - 1/4 mile. 11.8 with Mickey Thompson 315 drag slicks on rear. My brother NA Mustang done a 10.28...... it does have 658 hp .....not bad for a 5 lt with NO forced induction.
@FocusRS500
@FocusRS500 4 жыл бұрын
Clearly the xr8 did not hit over boost on its QTR mile time....
@FocusRS500
@FocusRS500 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely rubbish times.....
@secretninja-ri1us
@secretninja-ri1us 7 жыл бұрын
Both fords will do 4.7 easy if driven properly!!
@Pittaz
@Pittaz 7 жыл бұрын
secretninja3079 and the gts will do it in 4.3
@EnkeiTenjin
@EnkeiTenjin 7 жыл бұрын
Quantum Flux 420 and my Nissan supra will do it 1 second flat if I turn on superturbo blow off gate waste valve mode.
@coxy_normus
@coxy_normus 6 жыл бұрын
Mister Mango I think you started your stopwatch a bit too early mate
@jeffaustin8112
@jeffaustin8112 5 жыл бұрын
the GTS auto has been shown to do it in 4.2 and the manual can hit 4.4
@hughrobson9550
@hughrobson9550 2 жыл бұрын
Shit driving of the GTS still smoked them
@TheKwod
@TheKwod 3 жыл бұрын
With the grunt off xr8, should test 80-160 times
@falconpowerful2362
@falconpowerful2362 7 жыл бұрын
Ford needed to put better tyres on from factory... I'd wager the drag results would be a bit different if they did. Their factory tyres are woeful. this is sort of shown in the less torquey 6 toasting the 8. Gotsta gets the power down.
@hesgotamotor8288
@hesgotamotor8288 3 жыл бұрын
Better driving skill is required, change earlier
@ld1429
@ld1429 4 жыл бұрын
Holden flogged them
@bslothed3211
@bslothed3211 Жыл бұрын
If you call that flogged 💀
@turbotheamericanstaffy
@turbotheamericanstaffy 8 жыл бұрын
and to be fair, the hsv should run 12.4 at a minimum
@hesgotamotor8288
@hesgotamotor8288 3 жыл бұрын
In you're dreams
@rsdingoa
@rsdingoa 11 ай бұрын
Two big problems with these cars. Too heavy. 1800 kgs. Not enough traction. All that power and torque but not usable. Love the engines Put them in a car weighing under 1500 with either very wide tyres or AWD and it would be an absolute beast. These cars struggle against european v8 twin turbo AWD cars. They are still overweight but have much more.useable power.
@gazzamate.9222
@gazzamate.9222 5 жыл бұрын
Xr8 is faster not the xr8 sprint whyyyy 😭😭
@optiksnipegaming9720
@optiksnipegaming9720 Жыл бұрын
Holden wins in races and fords win on paper.
@alanjm1234
@alanjm1234 5 жыл бұрын
The Fords need better tyres.
@tobo26
@tobo26 4 жыл бұрын
Just go to the drags and you will who the real winners are.
@TheWretchedWorld
@TheWretchedWorld 6 жыл бұрын
give me the xr8 spend a little bit on water 2 air injectors pulley and tune (costs fuck all in comparison to the gts) and it will be running deep in the 11s
@andrewpelly2388
@andrewpelly2388 4 жыл бұрын
Stock car comparison, mate my datsun stanza would outrun these cars
@NoOne56488
@NoOne56488 5 жыл бұрын
I have a XR8 Sprint, and they are pigs to get off the line as they wheel spin for days. The P-Zeros are good but need to be wider.
@hesgotamotor8288
@hesgotamotor8288 3 жыл бұрын
You can't drive is what it is, FORD, for only real drivers
@kers225abk2
@kers225abk2 2 жыл бұрын
Diff gears help Holden alot in a drag.
@bourgeoisiez764
@bourgeoisiez764 5 жыл бұрын
Bloody big price difference from a GTS to the sprint
@rocketmagnet427
@rocketmagnet427 5 жыл бұрын
No more fpvs at the time to test with. And with the holden you get alot more than just the speed
@bslothed3211
@bslothed3211 Жыл бұрын
@@rocketmagnet427 You sure do get a lot more, you get a ton of eye rolls because it's just a typical boring bogan brand passing by 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Holden is trash now
@COLDoCLINCHER37
@COLDoCLINCHER37 7 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the xr6 sprint had f6 engine
@EvOFusion
@EvOFusion 7 жыл бұрын
The.#1 T They have the same top speed and acceleration... lol
@roughgooch7859
@roughgooch7859 5 жыл бұрын
The xr6 sprint is tuned at 325kw at the crank? The f6 is tuned at 310
@TheWretchedWorld
@TheWretchedWorld 7 жыл бұрын
345kw at the engine proceeds to make 359rwkw lmfao
@fu8713
@fu8713 3 жыл бұрын
Need a better test driver
@AutoDireto
@AutoDireto 3 жыл бұрын
like
@darronmecak5720
@darronmecak5720 8 жыл бұрын
If the xr8 had launch control and no wheel spin it would be similar to the hsv.
@CommodoreWog
@CommodoreWog 7 жыл бұрын
XR8 auto does have launch control. Straight out of the book. But they wont tell you that.
@peterkarzis4560
@peterkarzis4560 5 жыл бұрын
What Bullshit times they were...HAHAHAHAHAHA
@deathnights-bane3301
@deathnights-bane3301 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanting to say that the GTS was a Holden special vehicles team car, and you were dragging it against the two untuned falcons, kinda unfair on the behalf of the falcons here, I call bias
@SugmaDick
@SugmaDick 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh all these drag races of Ford vs Holden are biased,especially with aussie media.
@deathnights-bane3301
@deathnights-bane3301 3 жыл бұрын
@@SugmaDick I mean, had it been the HSV gts vs the Fpv Gt-f or some other fpv I would have understood but this is just dodgy
@Skippy-id9yt
@Skippy-id9yt 4 жыл бұрын
Who's the old lesbian , I wonder if they went out of their way to find a female host instead of what was available
@paperman8583
@paperman8583 4 жыл бұрын
*Holden Super car drives in*
@hesgotamotor8288
@hesgotamotor8288 3 жыл бұрын
FORD BIG FOOT drives over holden/Chevrolet supercar, check the sound of that mighty Ford BIGFOOT, daam
@swaysways5128
@swaysways5128 4 жыл бұрын
My BA xr6 Turbo ( Not Stock ) Does 0-100 in 2.9 secs And Ran a 9.1 sec quarter mile
@hesgotamotor8288
@hesgotamotor8288 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, munch munch Holdens for lunch
@johnboy5167
@johnboy5167 Жыл бұрын
2 fools dreaming together 😂
@zurasho043kranky7
@zurasho043kranky7 3 жыл бұрын
make it even, auto vs auto. plus lukes shifting times are nowhere near ours, we shift like there's no tomorrow.
@dankurtis5738
@dankurtis5738 8 жыл бұрын
xr6 sprint is a tuners wet dream. Cheap power gains!!! Take 1 to a reputable tuner and spend the difference in price on tuning and bolt on's and then see whos king.
@boosts14
@boosts14 8 жыл бұрын
and very reliable and extremely streetable with big power. 9-10 grand netted me 490rwkw. off boost drives like a stock f6. 3 years not one drama.
@dominicmangaring5226
@dominicmangaring5226 3 жыл бұрын
My stock fg xr6t went 12.9 lol No upgrades except sticky tyres at the back
@boss302frostyfordfan2
@boss302frostyfordfan2 6 жыл бұрын
The XR8 Sprint Manual is faster then the XR6 Sprint so i don't really think that the test was fear plus the falcon had more power
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 4 жыл бұрын
Boss302FrostyFORDFAN Someone got a 4.5 or 4.6 in a XR6 Sprint from 0-100 so there still as quick. Plus the weight of the car is a factor as well. The Sprint 6 is lighter as well so the Sprint 6 might be fractionally quicker then a Sprint 8.
@Juzman
@Juzman 5 жыл бұрын
Um why didn't you drive the manual XR8 for a like to like.... epic fail.
@Dazzler351
@Dazzler351 3 жыл бұрын
What a load of biased bullshit .. still in 2021 this is the worst bullcrap i have ever watched to make a holdon look competitive against the ferd product !!
@johnboy5167
@johnboy5167 Жыл бұрын
Normally the hsv would win by more 😂
@menatworklanddownunder3955
@menatworklanddownunder3955 5 жыл бұрын
hsv I just want one allyou need is the power and control that’s why these are austarillan these smash the mustangs right off the line they can’t keep up there pure shit every car made by the Americans are shit the mustang can’t make a full u turn @hsvijustwantone
@habibysharmoota9981
@habibysharmoota9981 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are way way offf
@micko9111
@micko9111 Жыл бұрын
Brah you fixed the XR8 run buddy you can’t fool real car people
@nathanlaird1193
@nathanlaird1193 7 жыл бұрын
have ownd 3 fords 2 xr8s and a xr6t all 3 were absolute shit boxes problem after problem have owned a ss ve for the last 3 years will never go back to ford they cheap for a reason
@calamtransgression9264
@calamtransgression9264 6 жыл бұрын
nathan laird there more expensive brand new fucktard they're Australian with Australian steel and components you brought a Vauxhall with a GM motor and assign steel good or even sadder are the muppets with Buick engines and GM engines with bow tie badges Holdens never made a car all been opels, Vauxhalls, buicks, and Chevys lmfao
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 7 жыл бұрын
But the sprints will beat the clubsport lsa
@jeffaustin8112
@jeffaustin8112 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Chesterman clubsport LSA has 30kw and 70nm less than the GTS
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Austin XR8 Sprint makes 404 KWs at the engine and the Clubsport LSA has 400 KWs at the engine. The Sprint 6 even has 375 KWs at the engine but is lighter then both.
@johnboy5167
@johnboy5167 2 жыл бұрын
The clubsport lsa beats both of the sprints 😄👍
@Checkerz-le7rs
@Checkerz-le7rs 6 жыл бұрын
My xr6t runs 9s with just a tune and would flog all these shit boxes!
@johnboy5167
@johnboy5167 Жыл бұрын
I think you might be flogging yourself 😂
@billybodybuilder
@billybodybuilder 3 жыл бұрын
Holden USA V8 v another Ford USA V8 v Ford AUSTRALIAN BARRA !! There is only ONE true AUSSIE muscle car here ...
@nickycrea6075
@nickycrea6075 3 жыл бұрын
and its a 6 cylinder... little depressing. The Miami v8 is actually a reworked Coyote that was done it Australia. It's more reliable then the mass produced thrown together coyote.
@billybodybuilder
@billybodybuilder 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickycrea6075 Agreed but it's still USA based V8 (with Aussie touches) i hardly call my F6 "depressing" , just doesn't have the V8 note...
@nickycrea6075
@nickycrea6075 3 жыл бұрын
@@billybodybuilder fully agree, the F6 is far from depressing, it's just muscle cars generally need that V8 grumble.
@RypienGT
@RypienGT 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the auto turbo 6? Set up by Holden fanboys.
@jeffaustin8112
@jeffaustin8112 5 жыл бұрын
RypienGT the GTS was manual as well?
@RypienGT
@RypienGT 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeffaustin8112 isnt the manual HSV quicker than its crappy auto? And the Ford ZF gearbox is faster than the manual. Compare the fastest versions of cars.
@joevandijk2284
@joevandijk2284 3 жыл бұрын
So tell me. HSV which cars do they manufacture. They are not a manufacture. They are a performance mod shop. Please put a tweaked Herrod Turbo six or V8 supercharged falcon in this comparison. Wasted 3 minutes of my life with this stupidity
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