HTC One Review!

[@ManhTran-bn2ot]

I sometimes rewatch this in the middle of the night, then cry myself to sleep.

[@jaeehovaa]

Me 2 bro. I'm watching it now , this was one of my favorite phones I owned just wished HTC would have kept itself together. Now here I am using my one plus 7t lol.

[@Imrezvi]

Me too

[@Chilam.]

Same

[@RichardArkax]

Same

[@Andrew714oc]

It’s my favorite android ever! I’m now an iphone guy. Currently on iPhone XS Max.

[@8in209]

it’s 2019 and i remember obsessing over this phone, i wanted it so bad

[@vedantshimpi]

Man you aren't alone... M7 and M8 were my favourite phones I never could buy

[@Jerry4050]

I had this phone way back 2013 and loved it and remember how many hours at work I'll be putting on watching KZbin videos because of how good these speakers are

[@KamranYounis1]

Same, I refused to sell it, I keep it as a collection. Used it for 2 years then kept it in my wardrobe since 2016🤣

[@KamranYounis1]

It's sad that htc dropped out of the flagship race, I wondered how they would have done in 2020

[@ZombiesOnDrugs101]

I had this phone for 3 years. It was a tank, so much nostalgia with the phone. It was there with me when I first got GTA 5.

[@Serbofreak]

I honestly wish that HTC would use this exact design in 2018 and just put better specs under the hood. Remove the key bar and add on screen buttons or wait for P gestures. This still looks better than most phones nowadays.

[@likaizheng7573]

Can't agree with you more

[@JiArumaiti]

I'm watching it from a htc one it's been my phone for 2 years and it's great

[@EricHouserecho1284]

Phones now are huge leaps backwards from this masterpiece. I miss this one so much.

[@MrRaelsax]

Pitchwisse hell yeah, put a AMOLED display on it, a google pixel camera, a little bit bigger housing and battery, Android 9, snapdragon 855, 8GB ram, same design, I would be rocking one of these again.

[@Hubie-op2kj]

Good phone, but the camera was awful

[@phantomninja01]

You know this phone is iconic when even 10 years later people come in to comment on how much they loved this device.

[@johnsteadman1885]

9 years ago, this review motivated me to get this phone and now 9 years later it's still my favorite phone I've ever used. Thank you.

[@adlerzwei]

Even 7 years later this one of the most beautiful phones ever made. I was forced to give mine up when the display stopped working. 😭

[@TheTheNewGuy15]

I only changed it because it completely died :(

[@MrBombermand]

mine was the camera turned purple , i had to give that up

[@Sebdet9]

@@MrBombermand same

[@ManfredElsingBielefeld]

yes!i got a Note 2 for it;a great deal!Now i ´m using a Note 20,all is fine!!!

[@timaaaahhhh]

This was the last phone I was ever excited about.

[@franklingoodwin]

I feel you on that one. I've still got my old HTC One M7. I've got a Samsung Galaxy S8 now but wasn't excited about it like I was with my HTC One

[@aneesimran]

@@franklingoodwin same

[@JJE990]

Same. I got a OnePlus 7T Pro the other day, and I've been excited about that, it's a step up from my OnePlus 5T, but even so, the HTC One M7 was the last phone I was really excited to get. An underrated, underappreciated masterpiece.

[@eamonob84]

Best designed phone of all time.

[@xxyvng6831]

last phone i was excited about was the samsung s3

[@ravocean]

One of the best designs out there. HTC always had a very unique and cool looking phones. Too bad phones look quite similar nowadays

[@nirbachanpattanaik4553]

Back here after 10 years for the classic intro music 💙

[@McGriddle69]

I had this phone and to this day it is STILL the best phone I ever had. I honestly miss it.

[@ambarish92]

It's 2024 September, and I still wish and dream for HTC to make a comeback. This was one of my prized possessions and it was just amazing! Wish HTC come back and make a phone with modern hardware and magic software 😢

[@Icarus8426]

well, HTC did start making phones again, but it’s not gonna be the same wow factor that the M7/M8’s had in its prime

[@BlazingLino]

I NEED THIS PHONE TO COME BACK, AND UPDATED TO 2019/2020 STYLE!!

[@BenShapirosLowerLip]

same, my first top tier phone

[@tiadanama1998]

Htc makes shaver nowadays

[@xxyvng6831]

@@BenShapirosLowerLip my first top tier phone was a galaxy s2 lel

[@bobby45]

It’s 2020 and this is still the most beautiful phone ever made ......

[@eamonob84]

Word

[@patcola7335]

The Nokia Lumia 925 was also a beautiful phone.

[@perezgiovanni12]

Is 2023 and still rewatching just for the sake of remembering my years with androids and rooting lol

[@lukeeclair7736]

March 10th 2019 I miss this phone!

[@1daful]

I don't know why KZbin placed this old video in my recommended list but I sure did watch it again. The excitement for me of owning the HTC One M7 has never been eclipsed by any phone I've owned since. I have such fond memories with this phone and if HTC had just listened to their customers, I'd still own an HTC today.

[@sh1vvyy]

Here from FPT anyone? This video is genuinely so well made 🥺

[@lmaoidgaf]

Yo

[@LiongkyTan]

Remember using one of this proudly back in 2013, and make a lot of my friends change to HTC just by word of mouth... Watching this in 2022 just makes me sad... I wish we can have HTC back

[@Cherry-j7k2h]

Who’s watching in 2020?!

[@steveorsomething725]

No

[@EliteSquter]

...and still using this phone in 2020?

[@Justmyview-u4z]

Yup

[@oszyyte8008]

I'm watching this in 2024

[@simonkalloniatis7578]

Same!​@@oszyyte8008

[@timothyxxxpaul]

I like rewatching phone reviews from over a decade ago and see how far weve come since then.

[@Landon289]

I had one of these back in the day. Crazy to think about in 2021 and how well it would still hold up. So ahead of its time.

[@TheSHAMIRSULAIMAN]

The algorithm has reunited us 11 years later

[@fractallusion7121]

Still one of my favorite phones I've ever owned. I remember being really impressed with the stereo speakers. I wish I still had it to compare sound quality with my S22 Ultra

[@mangostickyrye]

September 2024... I miss HTC. I owned many of their devices dating back to Windows Mobile/Pocket PC days. I owned the original Evo 4G from Sprint. And I owned this HTC One model in 2013. Sad they are no longer competing.

[@bhaumikkrish]

He still sounds the same 10 years later

[@adityarajganeju]

God if they remade this same exact phone with new processors and storage, I would still buy it. Best speakers ever combined with that BeatsAudio tuning. What a beast!!

[@henrytsao1]

My 5th year on HTC m7, really seeing the gap in technology. This phone doesn't run well with 5g network aka LTE. Battery is barely lasting over a day so games and snapchats and instagrams would have to be kept at a minimum use. Processor is running slow on modern games. Speaker isn't good in terms of loudness in public; but still an excellent choice for indoor watching KZbin on bed. The speaker still has a nice rich, full sound to it. The beats audio equalizer is still pretty good with any headphones. All buttons fully functioning. Still tanking through drops on the ground no crack on screen. Camera has lots of noise in low lightshot, but I've never gotten the tint like others, althought I do have a huge crack in rear camera. Never had the chance to use front facing camera because I'm too ugly and I look even worse in the camera angle. Software supports are all dead, running on android 5.0.2 and HTC sense 6.0. Amazing journey with this guy

[@bradleyhove4177]

I know it's a year late, but there is now a LineageOS 17 ROM for this phone, bringing it to Android 10. Absolutely absurd

[@peesafpayper9688]

LTE is not 5g it is part of 4g

[@harshaldongre849]

This was the first smartphone I ever owned. Till this day it remains the favorite. Something about this was truly special - with time, everything has become stale.

[@JAMESFERNANDEZ]

HTC One 2013 was the best smartphone ever! Full metal body, such a great design and double speaker with excellent sound! The brand was offering the One, Mini and Max! Apple did the same only in 2020! But lack of marketing and other stuff were crucial! A big shame that HTC missed the chance to lead the android market and to become a real competitor!

[@akashpokar9177]

I still use HTC one. I m watching this on HTC one. Love the phone. Just my screen is poping out from left side

[@dbqp5211]

How😂

[@akashpokar9177]

@@dbqp5211 Actually the battery was expanding and having a full metal back forced battery to expand upwards towards weak screen. Other the screen bulging out there are no issues 😊

[@shahtayyib]

@@akashpokar9177 dude replace that battery or you could be in for an unfortunate accident

[@igormarinkovic1531]

yes screen on one and one mini can pop out lol

[@yellowood252]

@@akashpokar9177 We need an update. Did your house burn down?

[@sportschad]

Even after a decade, this phone in my opinion, is the most beautiful, most premium-looking phone of all time.

[@7th_gear]

Whos is watching in 2024!

[@BruceWayne-fc8dp]

Who's watching on 2016?

[@jacobjericho1]

yup

[@kennylilipaly4806]

Yeah

[@ccna101]

yep.just did..and it is June 2016

[@beckynankabirwa3784]

+Tyler Pinkerton I am . Am sad I love it better than all that have come after. Htc is disappointing. Either d new ones look like apple or samsung n I hate them

[@beckynankabirwa3784]

+Tyler Pinkerton Ihtc phone. how hard is creating a slick slim HTC . m7 has the outside features, they already have what it takes but all they do nowadays is copy UN beautiful designs. m10 is a disappointment, its more like the calculator Samsung

[@alejandrovelasquez7734]

This was my first ever smart phone. I’m glad I got to experience this phone back in the day lol

[@wtttyoung2859]

Who’s watching it in 2019?

[@ZeitGeist_TV]

I'm here in 2020.

[@dukeikedi]

It's November 2024, and I'm feeling nostalgic 😔

[@cedric2221]

i remember getting this for my 13th birthday and flexing way too hard in school lmao

[@DarkArcharon]

You can't flex "too hard" with this phone, especially when it was new. I remember the idiots who flexed with their S5 when that came out...now that's terrible

[@abdullahalshehri1793]

I’m watching this in 2019 , and I had that htc before and yet , still like it so much

[@coolboyterrence]

2015 and gonna get this phone and i don't care what anyone says. it cheap now, fast and the the boom sound speakers with beats audio is just icing on top

[@br34kf4st7]

ItzYaBoi IMMORTAL purple?

[@jabroni4200]

Yeah my cousin has the same problem purple camera

[@coolboyterrence]

Doritos senpai put the phone in the freezer

[@coolboyterrence]

XIUMIN KIM no lie it works because the image processing is overheating

[@bismarck6]

Same

[@CarlRavancho]

Hoping for htc to actually comeback with this fire design.

[@matundamanug6294]

This is the last HTC I ever owned, after that, they stopped being creative.

[@ashwiz2k]

Great video review dude! You speak well and you speak sense! My bro gifted me a HTC One and I was moving from one of the flagship Samsung Galaxy phones to this one and initially I missed (I do still miss them) the cool Smart features of Samsung and the complicated user interface (HTC Sense) of this phone did not help me much but after going through a lot of video reviews and tips and tricks from experts like you, I have regained confidence that this phone should serve me good in the coming times that I will get better used to it! Cheers :)

[@KaustubhPatankar]

Congrats on owning a HTC One bro....

[@robsawalker]

Still my favourite phone ever! Imagine a 2020 version...

[@eamonob84]

Word

[@fabolousjada5070]

This is the first review I ever saw by you

[@bikkyvishal]

For some reason this video was recommended to me by KZbin today and I watched it 😂

[@arashsm00]

I'm still using this legend. It runs android 5.0.2 and pretty much every popular app runs smoothly on in.

[@josephjohnson73]

How did you get 5.0.2?

[@lawsonelijah9950]

@@josephjohnson73 over the air update. OTA. I run 7.0 on mine.

[@shourjyadasgupta]

4 years of usage and #HTCOne #M7 still has THE BEST Speakers ever. I have never seen the sound break at any levels. And it still Booms. Although I started getting disappointed with the camera after a year(kind of) in comparison to other phones but nobody could beat the stout metal premium design of this phone for sometime. After a recent 4 ft drop, the M7 screen shattered but it's still working with a clear tape on top. So, I just bought the #GooglePixel. Super fast, Super bad speaker placement. Camera is awesome until you notice the lens flare or halo in majority of your naturally/artificially lit scenes. How could the designers ignore such a big hardware problem in their Premium phones? This is the first time I watched this MKBHD video on #HTCOne. Probably because I am missing my M7 still now :-(

[@PCGamingNET]

I have this phone and absolutely love it! It has a flawless design, gorgeous display and a very sturdy, yet smooth and great to hold build quality!

[@AnuragSingh-bm9oq]

M confused between LG G2,,HTC ONE and Samsung Galaxy S4... can u plzz suggest me which one to buy??

[@TheFluffyMelon123]

if you get a one, get it in all black. SEXY

[@AnuragSingh-bm9oq]

***** Wat do u think bout LG Nexus 5??

[@harkiratsingh5714]

Htc one has better audio and the outlooks is better, but LG G2 is bigger and it's faster with snapdragon 800, 2.26GHZ Quad Core.

[@AnuragSingh-bm9oq]

N even camera is better i think for lg g2

[@gantswood]

I am stuck between your choice of phones too.

[@danielerickson5195]

Hey MKBHD, I purchased my HTC One approximately 10 months ago and about a month ago the headphone jack quit working. I received a replacement phone from AT&T and in one short month the jack on the replacement has stopped working as well. Judging by what I've found online this issue seems to be pretty common. Just thought your viewers would appreciate the info.

[@SlightlyMisunderstood]

I remember this phone so well. Was one of my favourites and used it for quite some time. The feel in the hand was second to none. And the sounds out of those speakers were awesome. The display was superb for the time and performance flawless. Would love a modern day version of it… I mean with 2021 specs and onscreen nav bar instead of capacitive ones. Great phone this was. One of htc’s best.

[@Arman_Amjad]

2021 recommending a phone that I used for good 3 years. I loved HTC M7. I'd love if HTC held onto things until now. Hi mkbhd, great review I hope you get one lac subscribers soon, Good luck.

[@Ms.Delphine1204]

I still have this phone and remember how excited I was when it arrived! Lol

[@pallavchakraborty8260]

Am here in 2024

[@lmaoidgaf]

6:30 Watching on midrange device with 1.2 Million Antutu after 10 years feels illegal...😂

[@Fatal155]

I still have my HTC one (M7) and I'm glad it still helds up great today and Still loved by a lot of people,

[@keepmovingforward261]

who else miss this phone ?

[@oHuman]

Who's watching this in 2019? I miss my old HTC one m7

[@MrJustfajar]

Who's watching this in 2017?

[@fernandomarte2865]

It’s 2020 and I’m realizing I’ve been subbed for a damn long time

[@markschwacofer1802]

Im just curious if you would still recommend this phone in 2015? i can get it new for about 150.00 and was considering it

[@JonathanNear]

Yes, just got mine of eBay a couple weeks ago and it's amazing! Still up to date with the latest Android software which is a bonus 👌

[@JonathanNear]

Agreed! Rocking the S7 Edge right now.

[@Philson]

Looking to get 1 as a budget phone in 2017 lol. The Red one is sexy.

[@emirsundric1485]

Using this phone in 2015 :) fast as hell, awesome battery life (6 hours of screen time), never used a case for it and it is still without any marks whatsoever. Only issue is pink camera in poor light conditions (perfect in daylight).

[@enriquegallo5446]

is this te m7??

[@emirsundric1485]

yup enrique, the very first One :)

[@ErnisTheFirst]

Its speakers/build/screen were amazing. Too bad that with time the phone used to get pretty hot when running games. But if this had a remake with modern specs, I would buy it in a heartbeat!

[@JoZero95]

I have the HTC One X but I want this one now

[@sandarthvader]

you should do a video of the best old phones(from 2012-13-14) Now it's 2016

[@Jaysann22]

sanad nazer AGREED!! Badass idea! MKBHD should totally do a video review of many of the old school classics from the mid 2000s.

[@mjbadboy14]

2018 now

[@MYTMIC]

I will not upgrade this phone till it is absolutely dead!

[@maxresdefault_]

Is it dead yet?

[@SykoManix]

How long did it hold up? How was the jump to your next phone? With having fingerprint sensor and google pay eg?

[@Richard-yo5qj]

Watching this during quarantine

[@robotomo4249]

i have the m7, and it works good even today, but the battery is terrible, last night my phone was on 100% and on powersaving mode, i put it on my desk and went to sleep, the next morning the phone was completely dead (0%)

[@anguineus_vir]

Phenom69ll you sound very mature

[@16998262]

Everyone was jealous of my phone's sound quality.

[@tabeeb99]

should i buy htc one or samsung galaxy s4

[@grainfrizz]

You should buy OnePlus 7

[@talkinglukashenko4303]

@@grainfrizz that comment was from 5 years ago there was no oneplus 7 at the time

[@jaeehovaa]

One of my favorite phones I've owned, and I'm a person who switched 2 to 4 times a year and have been doing that since I was 18.. I'm 28 now lol so I've had many many phones, and I still come back and watch this randomly lmao.

[@SirtubalotTX]

No removable battery or SD slot? I just can't consider this phone. No hate intentions but even Lenovos latest phones have both. Battery issue is becoming less important due to improvements in that area but I still want it. SD card slot? absolutely ~NO~ excuse for not having that. No, I don't to hear about the "cloud" nonsense and some of us don't want to use that in every context. I take lots of video and pictures.. have lots of music and maybe I don't want all of it uploaded. Nice phone but cut out the balogne.

[@kissyou-cs8dz]

***@@*I bought HTC A9192 Inspire 4G only 154$ and i save 646$ from Amazon and I saw they are on sale now*******>:amzn.to/1kNpF6D

[@dspurlock82]

It's a 32 gb you don't need an ad card. I mean really how much storage do you need?

[@TheJohnAndJimmy]

Just buy the 32 or 64gb version

[@Lemon00FTW]

I regret buying this phone for around 340 $ off contract last month, since it's now only 200 $ on amazon, This was my first android phone and didn't do many research on android until I had this phone for 2-3 days, 1 week after i bought this phone, i went to another store to see the galaxy s5 for only 275$. But it's still a great phone overall, and it's a great new experience for me after using iphones for a longggg time.

[@WesleyHuang]

Love Marques.B. Your review are really'' accurate! Not like other fanboy reviewer.

[@Tagefrigg234]

Ur right

[@evvrsince]

True

[@abdulahad0]

Right

[@Will_Bx_NYC_718]

Watching this video, and reminiscing over this phone in 2022, going on 2023.

[@ektasp]

December 2016 still not gonna sell it...Still decent fast and still there is no more beautifull phone! P E R I O D !

[@TheAlbaniaGaming]

ektasp do you still have it??

[@Coppertunes]

I do, i'm still using mine in Feb 2018, still going strong.

[@EnhancedNightmare]

I have mine too, but its not my daily anymore because of battery life.

[@electron7659]

@@Coppertunes Are you still using it without issues??

[@LiveAerosmith]

put modern specs in that beautiful aluminum body and i´m sold again!!!

[@darkspawn88]

I have this phone and its amazing,i switched from iphone 4 to this and i saw very big difference

[@jackjohnson3024]

Welcome to the high life

[@unmetplayer2727]

Does this phone now in 2016 run lollipop

[@jackjohnson3024]

lord potato I doubt it

[@DisneyPlayhousetv]

+lord potato It runs Android 5.0.2 Lolipop

[@SonnyChanhvongsak]

I'm watching this video on the one. The one's speaker are amazing. I notice that I listen to most videos on the lowest settings because the speakers are a beast. The one just has the build quality that makes you want to pick up the phone and play with it, and the internal hardware is just icing on the cake

[@DrEnword]

Are you serious? No one is going to talk about how terrible the camera is in low light? That damn stupid purple tint. So many people complain about this problem...

[@DrEnword]

You should really research this problem on the internet. Google: HTC One Camera Tint. So many people with this problem. Including me!

[@DanrkspineHaloGod]

MrLlamas64 it's a hardware issue. take it to htc for repair.

[@DrEnword]

If it's a hardware issue, I don't think a software update will fix it. It costs $90 to fix it without the warranty.

[@ViscaBarca912]

***** MrLlamas64 Wrong, its a hardware issue. I've had my M7 for a year and the problem still persists after the 4.4.3 update.

[@whewmancool]

***** actually it's still a problem for me, when not in low light the camera is fine but when in low light the camera become a lot of purplw, luckily i'm still on warranty and they replace my unit with the new one

[@Justn7883]

Who's watching this in 2023?! lol

[@realcartoongirl]

don't you love it when reviewers don't put a hideous skin on the phone when they do review

[@tanishkmisra3712]

Watching this in 2024! I love to see his old reviews... it's like the quality is top notch and most of them fill me with nostalgia

[@luizdiaz5196]

I loved the camera on my m7. I took some of my best pics on that phone.

[@Tiaxxxxxooooo]

really!? thanks for sharing your experience that's what I really wanted to know about it before I get it for Christmas

[@luizdiaz5196]

Tia S Wait! There are much better cameras out there. If you don't mind a decent camera rather than a great camera, then yes, I recommend the M7. Remember that it's a 4 mega pixel camera while most phones today have at least 8 and some up to 13. By the way, I just bought the M7 again yesterday and I'm having mixed feelings about the operating system, layout, etc. But i LOVE the display and the beats front facing speakers.

[@Tiaxxxxxooooo]

Luiz Diaz I really want a good camera especially for selfies sharp and clear any recommendations?

[@luizdiaz5196]

I really can't say. Midrange to high end phones are a safe bet. Merry xmas

[@Tiaxxxxxooooo]

+Luiz Diaz same to you and thanks for everything!

[@check-static-lines]

This phone is a gift from fucking jesus. I love it. 10/10 kills the iPhone or Galaxy

[@fikrimazlan7645]

Wat about sony

[@laila1273]

ikr i love it to

[@KamranYounis1]

fikri mazlan that's a hard one , Sony may have better internal specs , but the ui in The is shit , I hate the software in Sony , except for remote play ( love remote play to ur ps4, even I like PC and Xbox better but still it's good ) , HTC has better software and a better skin on android with HTC sense , and it receives updates more often

[@bobby45]

Goat phone

[@swiftapple5642]

You'llFloatToo lol im watching this on htc one m7

[@unknownbytes2874]

Damn thin and light was a thing in the past huh? Well not in 2019😂

[@TheTheNewGuy15]

Such a beautiful phone. I miss it so much.

[@TarozJallim]

This one vs Nexus 5. It's a hard battle D: (myself choosing which to buy)

[@eddtru]

nexus 5 no doubt

[@greeneightball]

Eduardo Trujillo Me too!!! But the mandatory blink app bloatware made me pick Nexus 5.

[@ABF27]

i have a nexus5 and i found out it has a common problem with wifi which differ from one phone to another, but if you don't get that problem in yours them the phone is great

[@DjoleMilosavljevic]

DEFINETLY HTC ONE

[@Jaysann22]

Oh Nexus 5!! All the way!! No contest!!

[@asdfgh4543]

I remember buying this phone after this review

[@BrandonContracting]

Buying this today in 2019 for $25!

[@Helbest_J]

Aaron Brandon lol it is good?

[@subiwrx8233]

I miss this phone

[@nicholashamilton7921]

2019? Sup people of april

[@grainfrizz]

What's up

[@evvrsince]

Sup

[@valentinedoesurmom6265]

7:46 me in an awkward situation

[@grantpage2138]

Can anyone who has used both recommend me s4 or one?

[@RockingRubberDucky]

HTC One. Had the S4, got the One. About 100x better. Go for it, bud!

[@grantpage2138]

What's better about it?

[@daanthooft]

Grant Page software is cleaner, s4 has more software tricks but it depends on you if you care. Hardware is awesome on htc one, but if plastic is good enough for you and you like an thin less breakable device the s4 is for you. camera is great on s4 but htc has an good, less detailed shooter but both perform good overall. The one has the best speakers ever, but if you dont care it makes no diffrence. And finally the s4 has removable back cover and the one doesnt so if you want to replace batteries or plug an micro sd in thats better, but the one has 32 GB. For me thats enough. I chose the one over the s4 because I dont like touchwiz and dont like the plastic but I could imagine why you would love the s4 or you agree with me. Its all up to you where do you care about?

[@grantpage2138]

Which has the better battery?

[@RockingRubberDucky]

For me, the One. However, most people say S4.

[@a.castillo2190]

Just going back through some old phone reviews and remembering how much I absolutely loved this phone. the fact that samsung killed it in the sales numbers always killed me because people just buy samsung and iphone because it's a popular thing to do when companies like HTC and LG were out here making some of the best working and most innovative products in the space!! such a shame we don't have them competing anymore.

[@moseskh8477]

KZbin Algorithm? 🤔

[@HN-hf7pc]

Who’s here in 2024?

[@jw8755]

2024 anyone?

[@EJSMiranda]

I’m here!

[@nicknorthcutt7680]

Watching this 10 years later, makes me wish HTC still made phones..