Huang Longshi Is Playing for Influence

[@leasanabria]

love your shirt

[@GoMagic]

Thanks! =)

[@robsonclark9678]

This game was fun to watch and have you telling it's story, cool!

[@GoMagic]

It's part of an entire course about the life of that player. The course is not free but it's pretty cool.

[@countingtls]

11:17 nice video for good ancient Chinese games. And there is a good reason why they favored the cut and split everywhere fighting style, since they need to consider group tax, the more they can split but connect their own groups the better. And if you want to check using AI, you might need to change the setting of scoring method to stone-scoring, tax rule all, and no komi. Although not perfect (there are special weights trained using stone scoring), but would shift a lot of the AI opening and yose closer to the old styles they would play (need to set playouts quite high with wide root spread, i.e. higher analysisWideRootNoise value of at least 0.1 if you are using Katago, for the simulation propogarte further toward endgame to have impact).

[@GoMagic]

We were nerdy when preparing this lesson (and the entire course) but not THAT nerdy 😂

[@plrc4593]

Very interesting comment. I find stone scoring very interesting from historical and pedagogical point of view, but considering this: >there is a good reason why they favored the cut and split everywhere fighting style, since they need to consider group tax I'm glad it was abandoned.

[@zsoltorban]

Nice commentary. A lot of blue colour in this video, especially the shirt. Keep up the good work! All the best to you and the team for the hard work!

[@GoMagic]

Thank you!

[@minewen8377]

0:51 Why there is a white move now?

[@leasanabria]

at that time, go games in china started with 4 stones placed on the board, and white played first.

[@Toucanyou]

Michael Redmond has also reviewed this game, but I think your explanation of the first fight is easier to understand

[@GoMagic]

Wow, that is a HUGE compliment! Thank you!

[@derekrunsagain]

Good games!

[@GoMagic]

Very!

[@mumbo2526]

At 6:27 ; couldn’t White still just take the stone instead of descending? The second black stone played before the sequence doesn’t seem to break the ladder.

[@GoMagic]

True, but that way Black's 3 stones would be able to escape on the 2nd line. White wanted to try and kill them.

[@18waywardson]

Just a tip, the "Shi" in Huang Longshi is pronounced "shur", not "shee". Thank you for the video!

[@SionLion]

Depends if you are from the north or sud😂

[@ShredST]

Ehh I thought he pronounced it fine. He doesn't have to sound like he's from Beijing

[@countingtls]

Huang Longshi was from Taizhou (泰州 somewhere between modern Nanjing and Shanghai), and he would speak a dialect of Suzhou, so he would likely pronouce 士 in his name a bit like "絲" in modern standard Chinese.

[@GoMagic]

Sorry for not pronouncing the name the way Huang Longshi himself would 😂

[@Trevie3]

I love game reviews, this is great thank you. Also ancient Chinese rules were so cool, I love the group tax punishing you for having disconnected groups, and how they started every game with alternate stones on diagonals.

[@GoMagic]

Yeah, those games were quite a bit different from what we know today. And that's wonderful.

[@melontrophy]

Wish more people play go in my country, they only know this game from either avatar or hunter x hunter.

[@GoMagic]

This is a lament that many people share...regardless of the country =)

[@thomlee]

why white played the 5th move for Game #2? isn't it supposed to be black's turn?

[@ShredST]

Not back then

[@GoMagic]

At that time White played first.

[@thomlee]

I learned something new today. 😅