HUD Footage near miss RAF Jaguar / Glider

[@wesleymccurtain166]

Go to 05:00 to see the actual glider near miss!

[@hellcatjoe]

In the description. But cheers anyway :)

[@wesleymccurtain166]

hellcatjoe enough to make SOMEONE lose their bowels in the cockpit!

[@mattsmith5267]

I bet the glider Pilot needed some new underwear after this near miss.

[@MattHew-dt3hk]

I have heard of fighter pilots dodging smudges on their canopy. The things they see at high speed is incredible.

[@donkmeister]

Fast reactions from the Jaguar pilot, quick-thinking to go behind the glider, any other direction would have created wake for the glider that could have resulted in a very bad day indeed for the glider pilot.

[@taotoo2]

Yes I'm sure he thought long and hard about this issue before instinctively jinking

[@MontgomeryScott123]

I think it had more to do with a quick reactionary assessment of which direction the glider was traveling, in this case right-to-left. It would likely be a product of training and experience to instinctively jink in the opposite direction the aircraft you are on a collision course with is heading in.

[@Streaky100001]

Actually..... turning right is the standard, you always turn right to clear a conflict, this is to avoid a situation where both pilots see the others aircraft at approximately the same time, one reacts by turning left, the other by turning right, hence they end up turning into each other, if everyone always turns right you avoid issue.

[@Akm72]

Anyone able to identify all the data in the HUD? Some of it pretty obvious, but what is DGS/OGS?

[@moonbaby6134]

Demanded ground speed.

[@Horizon344]

The action starts at 3:43 - for any1 who just wants a bit of quick excitement

[@paulyflyer8154]

Was this in the Brecon Beacons/Black Mountains?

[@stevekiel82]

Just an observation but where is the radio traffic now that glider has been encountered in airspace where there is a military exercise on going?? I find that very strange that all jets continued as if nothing had happened or am I just being silly?

[@davidgapp1457]

From experience (also on Jaguar) you get on with the job-at-hand. Since he missed, what would be the point in breaking off the exercise? You are totally focused on what you are doing - I'm guessing to the pilot the glider registered as an annoyance.

[@daffidavit]

At least in the U.S. Gliders are not required to have transponders. They usually stay close to mountain ridges and small airports. I can't speak for Great Britain, but in the U.S. General aviation sometimes has to share "Alert Areas" or Military Operation Areas with Military. I say "sometimes" because most of the time the military trains in special airspace and at altitudes where there is no conflict with GA aircraft. But here, we had a glider with no radio or transponder, in all probability. It might just as well have been a hot air balloon.

[@petebutt]

Just being silly. They are operqating VFR, NOT in controlled airspace!! They both had the right to be there. To see the glider that close at that speed means there was a VERY real risk of collision.

[@allybally0021]

@@petebutt Where was the airspace? How do you know it was not controlled?

[@alrobertson3642]

'Military Fast Jet choke point'.....? I don't think so - no such thing

[@cratxn1]

it may fit the definition of a near miss...but you could not even tell the color of the other guy's flight suit...that is when it's "NEAR"

[@UncleBoratagain]

Why not fly low level? frigging around at 1500' RA a bit fruitltess

[@papa12213]

Classic AiM9L growl, Christ takes me back!

[@ratulxy]

I have wondered, why does it growl?

[@Akm72]

@@ratulxy I believe it goes back to the earliest versions of the AIM-9 before they had fancy HUDs to display information on. The audio cue was put in to enable to pilots to hear whether the AIM-9 missile could see something hot without having to glance down into the cockpit to look at some sort of blinking light or something.

[@TheClydedog]

Bloody hell that was near.

[@jisellan]

helmet fail?

[@wwclay86]

TheNaCH the British had a helmet mounted sight system. Guess it wasn't working, so he flew mission with the HUD.

[@moonbaby6134]

It was very basic. It was mainly for dropping bombs. Assisting the CCIP facility.

[@garethmorgan1282]

04:58 for the glider

[@moonbaby6134]

GR3a. Helmet sight. Very basic one.

[@joebuckaroo82]

wonder if the sailplane pilot even knew how close he came to being splattered over the countryside.

[@hellcatjoe]

2 x Ardours doing 450kts+ I’d imagine he knew about it 😂

[@petebutt]

hE WOULD HAVE HEARD IT AND POOED HIS PANTS. bEING SLOW AND CUMBERSOME HE/SHE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO MUCH TO AVOID A jAG!! Caps lock is off now!

[@n2b998]

As a glider pilot who has flown that ridge and from time to time found himself quite close to a fast jet, you know all about it!

[@yak55x]

Investigation reveals that gliders that normally have the right away - didn't have the right of way. Military pilots are never at fault for anything. Now a normal GA pilot would have been cited because the glider has right of way by category, approaching angles and that glider activity is clearly marked on the map :)

[@Scotscan]

Is this Vader 3?

[@hellcatjoe]

The formation callsign is Raider. The bounce jet is Raider 3.

[@nearlyretired6440]

Any airspace incursion would be an immediate "Knock it Off" - and a call to climb to safe height - non player in the airspace.

[@st4rlightr4v3n4]

The civilians are alerted to our presence. Flight lead brought us out of formation too close to the glider.

[@benfulford5255]

what year was this ?

[@moonbaby6134]

Sometime after 98/99. GR3a with helmet sight. So at least 99.

[@basimpsn]

@ 3:25 seems like a glider as well

[@hellcatjoe]

Moving left to right, just above the horizon?

[@basimpsn]

hellcatjoe yes

[@hellcatjoe]

That would one of the Jags of the formation being bounced. Listen to the RT. Raider 3 (Bounce jet) calls “Fox 2” having slewed the IR reticle onto him and locked it. Going for a sidewinder shot. The shot is flared following instruction from another member of the formation “Black- FLARE”

[@petebutt]

Yes, i saw it too. That was even closer!!

[@kapottespatiebalk]

Glider in a dogfighting area??? WTF!?

[@jfairplane8520]

Very nice !

[@Sidetrack208]

Cats dont fly, they purr!

[@cackroyd6379]

and most likely the glider had neither radio or transponder. They are a danger to themselves and others unless they conform with the requirements that GA and military aircraft have to comply with. The glider should not have been in that restricted airspace.

[@Jhongerage]

This was not restricted airspace

[@julianneale6128]

c ackroyd should the glider pilot consulted NOTAMS?

[@martinjuulandersen9694]

Works differently in Europe than the US with military and Civilian airspace. You don't really have restricted military airspace in Europe.

[@UncleBoratagain]

The Jag, for most of the sortie which we observed, was in the danger zone for airmiss with GA ie 1500-3000’ The airprox occurred in an obvious spot for ridge soaring. Unfortunately about 30 yrs ago there was a culture of, we the RAF can do whatever we like from Monday to Friday. The aircraft was obselete from about 1985 but we had to pay for it and their drivers for two decades after. At least ot was cheap and relatively noisy.

[@Ecthaelyon]

@@Jhongerage Looks like an LFA to me considering the airspeeds and heights... Restricted or not one simply does not glide into an LFA :D

[@SAVikingSA]

helmet fail

[@petebutt]

Helmet mounted sight! Probably not fitted.