COMPARISON CBT 1 AND RELEASE VERSION WUTHERING WAVES

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[@AI7428]

I heard that the CBT 1 story got entirely scrapped because the CN fanbase was unhappy that the characters were not friendly to them from the get-go. If that is true, then I'm disappointed. I feel like a Wattpad self-insert whenever every character glorifies my existence.

[@jejomarpedraza1877]

It's true, in official release, they literally trust you and worship you the moment you opened your eyes, but i have a feeling this is all just fake according to what Scar said " they know your value and forces are fighting in possession for you" it's mega suspicious if an entire city and it's everyone suddenly trusts a random stranger with amnesia, like they're trying hard to get you on their side

[@m.raihanammarfachrezixpplg7898]

Me aswell. After playing it for myself, and remembered the prologue of CBT 1, I just felt dissapointed they changed it. Like, they went for another PGR prologue with CBT 1, and as bad as PGR early chapters, they're not as bad as the release version of WuWa

[@jejomarpedraza1877]

YOOOO NEWS FLASH! KURO JUST STARTED HIRING NEW WRITERS AND VA DIRECTORS, this just proves they REALLY don't know what they're doing or even a vision of the future of the game

[@otakuagmvu4994]

​@@jejomarpedraza1877Just? Wdym?

[@sotl7749]

Yea Kuro should've just cook like how they usually cook with pgr

[@RealWorldGaming]

That explains why crownless didn’t attack me for like a minute straight as he was emoting on me bro was supposed to have dialogue!

[@kavaplant]

LMAO i had the same realization watching this, kind of insane how much they cut for final release

[@amarilistheodore9156]

Ngl that made me didn't feel good😢😢😢

[@kucing8107]

What did he say tho

[@RealWorldGaming]

@@kucing8107 not sure I don’t know The Korean Language

[@fuhua765]

@@RealWorldGaming it's mandarin chinese...

[@sotl7749]

While Chixia pointing her gun at Rover may look infuriating but it makes sense and somehow realistic as she was just being careful. Very Kuro thing to do, eventually they build trusts very much like pgr which felt the relationship more earned and satisfying. Released version seems like everyone trusted you from the start for some reason, it's like an OP isekai harem kind of story.

[@m.raihanammarfachrezixpplg7898]

I absolutely agree. Heck, I don't even mind if we have to fight Chixia just to get her trust. If I remember even Sanhua also did the similiar thing, straight up putting her blade right around our neck, then being calmed down by Jinshi in the end. Idk if this cutscene still exist (since I haven't met Jiyan yet), yet now Sanhua is just like, "Hello mister, what can I help you?". Oh well, I just hope Kuro went back to their PGR style story in the next patch. "OP isekai harem", huh, so that's Chinese players favorite genre of story lol

[@sotl7749]

@@m.raihanammarfachrezixpplg7898 we were robbed. Welp, in the end it works for them. Wuwa currently no.1 in mobile gaming list in Taiwan

[@muhammadrizkypanjaitan7417]

Yeah, really hate how they listened to those cn crybabies

[@kisato2687]

The scene with crownless beating the shit out of everyone really should have stayed And it also explains why Chixia did what she did in the CBT1 version of the story An elite class who single-handedly took out THREE of them was defeated by a random stranger they rescued, and then was absorbed by the bare hands of said individual. With some of the lore we've gotten in game so far, Discords have been shown to be able to disguise themselves as humans, so it's perfectly understandable that especially after Rover absorbs the Crownless, Chixia would threaten to kill them, if the fact that Rover was strong enough to take it down was not alarming enough

[@saga8659]

go read the story and you'll eventually understand

[@sungjinwoo4912]

i still dont know why they change the unfriendly part of the team, like they just met so ofcourse they would be cautious of someone who just absorb the crownless

[@nobody-xh6ii]

Because the way the story was at the time made it nigh impossible for you to do anything or gain trust at all. Even NPCs hated you for existing

[@altacc1734]

@@nobody-xh6iiThey should have just tone it down then. Not entirely make the characters so friendly and trusting. Make them not hostile but still slightly suspicious and cautious of you.

[@blvrdz]

@@altacc1734exactly !! like its a post apocalyptic world ffs, if ur trusting just any random stranger from the get-go, u probably won't last very long lmao

[@MiyashiruX]

@@nobody-xh6ii Tbf, I'd be the one more suspicious if the NPCs around me are friendly from the get go and sing me praises for everything I do. I'd rather them hate me for existing and building up from there because I know we'll eventually win their trust. I've done that in so many other JRPGs and it's more rewarding when most of them eventually become your BFFs.

[@amarilistheodore9156]

​@@MiyashiruXngl same i kinda annoyed with the fact they're so friendly

[@nicolaschenclaudialin7339]

damn, the characters felt so much more alive in the CBT version, in the release version they feel stiffer, more like an actual NPC

[@lemint1195]

CBT Chixia: Did you just ate crownless echo!?! What are you??? Release Chixia: Hello stranger, nice too meet you, I don't know if you are a bad guy or not but we are best friend now!!

[@SangNguyenHao-ho8wv]

@@lemint1195 You can asorb echos without gourd?? Wowww, you must be my best great great great great great grandma

[@amarilistheodore9156]

​@@lemint1195ngl they changed that prob because cn player😢😢😢

[@andriosgustav5578]

The main story suffered the most in the rewrite. But the side stories and overworld quest were the best tbh. Wish they atleast keep the coolness of crownless

[@kaionyoki3670]

​@@andriosgustav5578yeah the side quests are not too bad

[@kamanekifumiko9854]

I liked that crownless could talk😭😭

[@Khann_2102]

Yeah, don't know why they scrapped that

[@frostice961]

i think it's better in the release. dreamless can somewhat "talk" means they have thoughts but are still forming their language. what woule be the best if like how dreamless/ovathrax absorbed crownless for more power and as a baseform, another thernodian does the same but in male form

[@zir456]

​@@frostice961 Crownless are literally related to thernodian, make no sense if they still forming their language after such a long times

[@kamanekifumiko9854]

Guys guys he talked in act 6😭😭😭

[@fedechan6325]

Wonder what it was saying

[@Vanzerfaust]

CBT 1 Crownless look more menacing. Man i wish the prolog scene from CBT 1 😔 , its better than release version

[@Chadedit55]

Welp it's because skill issue player who can't even beat a tutorial boss lmao

[@justanewbie972]

​@@Chadedit55 well, if it's the same, this game will bring no new players 😂

[@CoFF3e_Man]

Hehehehe you're not ready for Dreamless then...imagine CBT1 crownless x10

[@megatbasyarullah4859]

Same but after seeing dreamless, im okay with it. Its basically just a tutorial boss for newbies. Tho i do hope crownless will be more menacing in the future if its ever gonna appear again cuz i really like its design. Like it'll have its own conscience or something

[@Khann_2102]

​@@megatbasyarullah4859 Somehow He reminds me of a certain knight from Solo Leveling

[@lonestargazer8541]

Huh, so what we got was not Kuro's original vision? That would explain why the current prologue feels so... off. That also means that Kuro just needs to recover their flow so they can work that PGR magic again! Fingers crossed that Kuro sticks to their creative vision moving forward. Listening to your fanbase on occasion is good, but artists need to set boundaries to ensure a healthy and cohesive final piece.

[@chipperdrewski]

Facts

[@saiavabel6076]

The person who did act 5/6 need be made in charge more

[@Mio_kakit]

What? In what way does the prologue feel off?

[@lonestargazer8541]

@@Mio_kakit I'd say "lots of words, but little actual information about the world or the situation at large." Too much word salad without actual substance. Exposition is expected at the beginning of any game, but WuWa's execution of that element is not up to par with what Kuro Game's is known to be capable of. Lack of initial chemistry between MC, Yangyang, Chixia and Baizhi adds to the "rushed" feeling of the final product, from my humble point of view.

[@Mio_kakit]

@@lonestargazer8541 uh, I thought that they did a pretty good job explaining the story/ world. Especially with *some* of the world quests. Though it makes sense that we don't get much information due to just being in act 1. Learning about Scar, lingyang, the magistrate and the Thenodian war all ties together to the world and It's plot. With Lingyang's story quest, the middle part was 100% a word salad lol. Well I would give Kuro some slack on that bc PGR's story is only really good around chapter 10-13. Right now the Exposition makes sense for Act 1, and it honestly really kicked off when we finally meet Jiyan. Yaaaa, I agree with the Trio, honestly chixia is so annoying... Baizhi and Yangyang are more tolierable. Though, if you think about Rover's time limit and the urgency of trying to find Jue and the Thenodian re-awaking; It makes sense that it is a bit rushed. Maybe in Act 2 we will have the trio more fleshed out since there is not a sense of urgency.

[@jeanyeap4229]

Because I’m seeing a lot of misinformation about this, I think it’s important to see what CN community actually flagged in CBT1. I can’t link anything here but I did watch some older bilibili videos about CBT1 and here were the most common complaints (CBT1): 1. Axu’s kill steal, NPCs praising the character, and Axu turning around and going ‘why are you still here’ to Rover. This scene actually became a meme in CN spaces for a long while, mocking the nonsensicality of it. 2. The yapping. A lot of it. Some articles on CBT1 mention a lot of specific terms that made it hard for readers to keep up with the plot. 3. Chixia pulling a gun on Rover after they had just saved everyone’s lives from the first monster. Overall, the consensus was that the world and characters being so hostile to Rover no matter what choices the player made (despite the first area being ‘famed for its hospitality’) really did not incentivise players to want and save the world. Add to the extremely verbose dialogue, and Kuro’s writers chose to do a 90% rewrite after the feedback. About the final release: no one is doomposting about it more than the same CN players. Complaints about final release (also from bilibili videos): 1. Why is everyone considering Rover to be a friend and saviour when they’ve literally just met? 2. That one line from Yangyang in a quest revolving around Jianxin. I can’t recall the exact words but Yangyang seemed to imply that soldiers on the front line had it easier than everyone else behind the lines. CN hated this line so much that it’s still a meme to this day, usually juxtaposed against Jing Yuan’s (Star Rail) trailer. 3. Jiyan’s quest is extremely controversial. There’s tons of pages of discourse on it, mostly about an army medic defying a general’s orders. Make of that what you will but that is a complaint they have. 4. Yapping is still there. Quality of acts 1-4 still suffered from it. All in all, I think we need to remember that the responsibility of this rewrite’s quality ultimately falls on the writers’ shoulders when they were the ones who picked and chose what feedback they listened to, and it is extremely facetious to blame it on a playerbase’s feedback. Asking for less hostility doesn’t mean overhauling everyone’s personality, as can be seen from the CN community’s general view towards the current version. It seems Kuro has realised it and is very quickly making changes to that department, and if so, good for them. I hope this game succeeds because the combat system does look very cool, though I’m not planning on playing another Gacha so soon.

[@isolatedanonymous1979]

Yeah I can understand if they just tone it down a little and made it so you can gain their trust but to literally rewrite SO MUCH is crazy to me. Like I love the overall vibe I got from CNT1

[@gianlucagiusti6174]

There is a great middle ground between these versions, unfortunately they landed very far from it

[@chipperdrewski]

Thanks for summing this all up. Good to know. I’m sure they’ll get their creative vision in place. Maybe they’ll eventually come back and do a rewrite of the beginning, but I doubt it. I just hope the sloppy early story doesn’t turn too many people off.

[@Kirivera]

I'm sure they could've changed some things around. But they went too far in favor of the generic. This CBT 1 version looked like a proper PGR style of story.

[@jammy1726]

I agree

[@madman4213]

The game's plot would have been more epic if Kuro hadn't listened to their fans... P.S. Please stop replying to my comment, I'm tired. If you agree, just like it, if not, you can complain about my comment.

[@justanewbie972]

Well, it's their plus point, and also their weakness

[@splitatorium]

Mihoyo did that with Genshit, look what happened

[@YhelloWish]

But which fans? I think all Kuro fans prefer the cbt atmosphere, the red color remind of gray raven virus. But about other fans? I had no idea.

[@fireworks8169]

​@@YhelloWish Chinese fans

[@madman4213]

@@YhelloWish Not only PGR fans went through CBT, it seems to me from the changes the game has undergone compared to the early CBTs, many beta players came with genshin impact, it’s clear that a lot was changed closer to release, and the game interface became closer to GI, as players asked to do because they are used to playing. Even if they had left the second version of the plot and simply improved the graphics of the game and the characters, it would have been great. But maybe I'm wrong, and it's really not like that)

[@victorthallys9238]

The cbt1 corwnless is the best so far in my opinion. "Have you seen my crown?" I found this sensational along with the intro and how he behaved.

[@blackblaze4830]

Yeah his name really didnt explain why he is named that 😅 not like the others the lightning one is born fromthe soul of soldiers in the battle field and twisted 😮 the big turtle one is a calamity class and can freeze the land just standing there mouring aix has 2 dragon that battle each other one lost and the the other has takin a area as his own making storms and mist one is made out of parts of monsters experimented life guardian of the fascility the monkey just by the way the it place his in the way the tree turned into a toxic mushroom explain a lot but not really the infernal rider was also great and the ice one in the mines 😅 its they have great lore but its all a side quest you really have to read the text to know what happend to the place 😊

[@eclest7208]

​@@blackblaze4830 you are wrong regarding Mourning Aix: yes, there were 2 of them: Male and Female, BUT they were not fighting, they were 'in love', soaring through sky and never attacking humans. But then Female died, and Male became mad: he tried to ressurect Female by regularly giving his vital force to Female dead body - that caused mist and storms

[@Equal_Dust]

Things from Technical test and CBT 1 i wish they kept 1.) The beginning where rover falls 2.) Aggressiveness of Crownless 3.) technical test red crownless and the environment (purple just looks gloomy Red looks chaotic) 4.) The close up camera angle In TT and CBT1 (old camera angle game stood out more imo) The only thing that i like that made it was crownless jumpscare from Technical test

[@theskull3412]

What about the old story?

[@amarilistheodore9156]

Also i like when Chixia pointing gun to rover... why they changed it TwT

[@isolatedanonymous1979]

@@amarilistheodore9156allegedly they changed it cuz CN players weren’t happy about how they was testing rover.

[@Kingsfilth_]

My exact thoughts.. what a shame

[@marseillejoh]

Also crownless talking 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@Diaisdumb]

wtf, this was so much better. it really showed the scaling of power rover has compared to everyone when it comes to the crown less, and felt like stakes were high from the get-go.

[@fengxoa9961]

Indeed looks better

[@silverhawkscape2677]

And then with how high our power scaling was compared to Everyone, everyone decided to be mean to us and force us to join the villains...😂

[@jojomuppet1820]

​@@silverhawkscape2677sounds like my kinda game. Tired of being the doormat hero. Time to mess things up.

[@John-ii6he]

characters show way more emotion, dialogue and expression. The fights look way more fluid and interact. And the extreme dislike in rover so fast and bitterness would pair so damn well to the way scar approaches rover later. why was this removed :sob: I get some things shoulda been toned down, chixia didn't need to be as aggressive, but i think a lot more of this distaste, suspicion, how bosses interact and feel way more menacing, tacets having genuine sentience and so much more. These concepts were just- removed? Why.

[@expressrobkill]

More dialogue more personality a flash forward/back cutscene. A cool intro why is this so much better

[@istvancsanyi1344]

Ill be honest. They should have mixed all the versions. The new awakening from current. The Crownless intro from the first. The color and transformation from CBT1. The cinematics from CBT1. And I guess the new cutscenes for memory flashback from current. This could have been the best mix of all of them. Current is good but it feels too tame when this shit was before it. So much more action was wasted bc the characters acted like actual people. In genshin Amber starts off as hostile first and I know, not gun to head hostile but once she actually talks with us she gets friendly. There is a compromise here. I hope that the story wont get bullied into submission bc fans get bitchy. Although its good that the company actually listens.

[@ZamrayzRayzoray]

Considering how LoL ditched all its lore and became racist because of CN, this game is no exception unfortunately.

[@arnowisp6244]

Dude. Chinese Gacha is very Cutthroat. Unless they can burn money they have to play ball now that they botched the Launch. They have to Bride and gain favor with their audience. They have to play it safe right now since WuWa can easily not survive it's first anniversary.

[@arnowisp6244]

​@@ZamrayzRayzorayWait. What do you mean LoL ditched it's lore?

[@HachuneMiku01]

@@arnowisp6244 There used to be a whole damn essay for each champion's lore in-game. Now it's just a few short sentences.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

This was the best way but Kuro was too scared of CN I think.

[@amirimamuddin6869]

That why the prologue feel so weird,i see

[@isolatedanonymous1979]

Right cuz they had to scrap and rewrite A LOT of shit 💀

[@IDRajen11]

@@isolatedanonymous1979 It was extremely useful work... maybe

[@UnusualDeathCause]

Yapyap ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING, and not just yap? God damn! They done fucked up.

[@anapple6912]

@@UnusualDeathCause huh

[@fedechan6325]

They did say that had to rewrite more than 90% of the dialogue and story...

[@sonlo6188]

When the fandom mean they need to change is the story, not the boss man

[@Khann_2102]

Yeah Crownless becoming irrelevant in the story is just sad

[@sonlo6188]

@@Khann_2102 hope in hologram lll it will reclaim the cbt 1 power

[@Khann_2102]

@@sonlo6188 Yeah, his design alone is what made me want to play this game

[@nhutminh9290]

NGL Crownless with voice and blood red color is way way better

[@codetibers]

actually befitting of the title Crownless

[@ZamrayzRayzoray]

I think they removed red because there's some minor law in China that red is often censored. What happened here is that *evil* and NSFW things like the color red got censored all because of CN players complaining.....

[@Khann_2102]

​@@ZamrayzRayzorayWell that's weird

[@chronohax7186]

@@ZamrayzRayzoray being a game dev for chinese playerbase is a nightmare

[@fishblublublub]

@@chronohax7186 fr

[@FLASHY_WOLF]

They had to scrap away so many great aspects of the game for some kids...... I feel really disappointed by that. Some characters not being friendly enough from the get go could have been really great in the character development later and that moment where Rover fought crownless solo being mad at crownless seemed so much expressive than the version we are playing right now. I know it's not Kuro game's fault at all, I would say they had to do it because the majority of the Gacha gaming community consists of Genshin players which mostly consits of kids and man childs, so yeah what can we do about it.....

[@nobody-xh6ii]

It was CN and the behavior in game didn't match what just happened. Rover saves everyone yet gets threatened? The kill stealing too. Then there's the issue no matter what you did you couldn't gain ANYONES trust at all.

[@Eldr1tchGl1tch]

it's not that they're kids; it's that they're CN players. the same ones that tried to kill dawei over a free skin, took away a gift for the global market and made the company apologise to THEM, and had the scaracat crime. the CN market is some of the worst but most profitable and so most gacha games just listen to the CN base and don't care about the other players since they don't bring as much revenue

[@Eldr1tchGl1tch]

@@nobody-xh6ii I mean think about it, some random dude that supposedly has amnesia comes and beats up a very dangerous enemy and is hyper skilled at combat. wouldn't you be suspicious?

[@deen5041]

you guys need to stop pointing everything to genshin fans like they matter the most. if you've been in fandoms long enough you would know a lot of these changes gacha games companies had to do are because of the crazy part of the fanbase manly incels. they mad when they dont get their typical waifubait interaction from female characters and they would even go through crazy lengths like harassing and threatening to kill. in this case, kuro had to listen to their cn fanbase because in the end of the day, cn market is still the most profitable to them

[@FLASHY_WOLF]

@@deen5041 Genshin has a lot of players and a lot of players for a gacha, so of course it's easy to say that most of the people who want unnecessary changes are man childs from the fanbase. And the thing about Cn community, it's something I both agree and disagree with. In the Jp community, many wanted a mascot like paimon which is the only reason we got a mascot in wuwa. Unlike Pgr Wuwa is available in many regions, so they had to listen to all of their community. Plus Genshin in itself is a really childlike and a isekai harem like game, so it brings even more proof that most of the man childs from Genshin would want the story to be changed. And we can't forget the amount of pain mihoyo puts it's players through, it makes some players toxic even though they weren't like that to begin with.

[@Berbean]

What the hell? I loved the distrust at the start, that was so refreshing compared to how other stories start. Especially when it added character to the otherwise now monotone one-noted characters we have now (regarding the red haired girl, can’t remember her for the life of me). Like you’re telling me this person with Amnesia being all powerful quite literally EATS frequencies and your first response isn’t to be weary? And Yangyang selflessly nearly dying for us makes me care about her way more vs now just being super nice for no reason at the get-go and kinda just following us around. I was hopeful they changed the story for the better as I never saw the story before, but now that I watched this, it was such a shame. Makes you wonder what else they changed like this.

[@slyferson9827]

there's a reason why it's official release is "open beta" more CN fanbase coddles on future adjustments so you should look forward to it

[@Kirivera]

I'm in the same boat with you after watching this video. This CBT 1 version is so much better and interesting. I was thoroughly entertained just watching the video and wanted to see more of THAT story.

[@Rand0mPeon]

From what I understand, the problem wasn’t so much the distrust at the start, but that the distrust didn’t go away no matter how much the mc did to help people. I can see why people complained about it with how extreme the hostility towards the mc got. The writers totally overreacted by erasing _any_ distrust whatsoever, though.

[@Berbean]

@@Rand0mPeon Oh, I didn't know that. See, that I can understand, especially if it's constant hate catered to the MC, it can be quite draining as the player and even frustrating to deal with. Knowing that now, I 100% am on board with you when you say they over-reacted. I feel like they just didn't know or want to put in the time to know how to write that considering how big of a story it is, but that's just IMO.

[@nanotsuki]

@@Berbean but the way kuro rewrite it almost like giving a middle finger to the people who complain and goes full 180 lol. I still love the game but the notion that this thing happen is so funny: kuro : how are the stories? cbt player : idk why these npc still distrustfull of the mc after all we did kuro : oh? everyone bootlicking the mc then cbt player : wait.. what?

[@Swellowing]

They gradually made crownless mute 😭

[@Aki-ow9hd]

Imagine if TDs actually talked though

[@dd-kapibara1070]

Hoohoo? ​@@Aki-ow9hd

[@Bullminator]

@@Aki-ow9hd They do kinda talk later in story. But not as humans, more like just repeating memorys of their victims.

[@kiwiaburridoo]

Man, I miss cbt1 Chixia. The new one is far too impulsive and carefree to be a policeman.

[@ballsnator]

SHE)S A POLICE MAN???????

[@GummyDinosaursify]

WAIT. She's a policeman? I thought she was just some vigilante that goes around solving issues.

[@kiwiaburridoo]

@@GummyDinosaursify Maybe? I thought the same because guards exist in WuWa, but she got away from the MC group because she had work/duties pending, which sounded like she had a real job.

[@Rrrr-pr9qr]

​@@kiwiaburridoo Chixia is a patroller, and patrollers in jinzhou are basically the police

[@cloudcandys]

@@GummyDinosaursify they call patrollers the police at one point so yeah

[@panduvandal]

CBT 1 Crownless actually had some stakes compared to the release one

[@panduvandal]

>Cool design >Put a mystery towards the game to intrigue the players within the boss fight >Get downgraded in the final release into some random tutorial monster just to get nom-nom'ed What did Crownless do to deserve this treatment?

[@Khann_2102]

​@@panduvandalThe weird CBT 1 players who wanted to change the story for no reason, Crownless has amazing design and got irrelevant for nothing?

[@chairmajesty3514]

​@@panduvandal Whooping players with skill issues

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

​@@Khann_2102 Story wasn't perfect before but ideally they could have just improved what they had than abandoned everything for this midness.

[@anapple6912]

@@Khann_2102 have you actually heard of the cbt1 players complains or are you assuming?

[@derago-dev]

Jesus christ those cinematics during the Crownless fight on CBT1, kinda long but damn so damn good...

[@bluesouls2002]

about UI, I like the idea of the wave more than line straight yellow line below Boss hp, u know ... wuthering "Waves"

[@Miro-px7ts]

I agree too! But I think the problem is that it'll probably lag for some devices like phones, and from what I've seen a LOT of people are on phone, and will completely ruin the fun fighting mechanics with the lag

[@realsimplify]

​@@Miro-px7tsThe game is not optimized for Mobile whatsoever. The camera? It keeps moving even if my finger is still. The graphics? It's at the lowest settings and still lagging. There's even a bug with the dialoague that keeps repeating when you perform other actions. Overall it feels unfinished and needs to be addressed by next update.

[@blackraven7609]

im still sad how some they change lots of stuff especially how the characters first treated u ,they re living in a post apocalyptic world where enemies can come from anywhere from any shapes ,the fact that they changed that is ...saddening

[@Toxic_MF911]

No if they kept it, the game wouldve flopped easily and quickly

[@eveningabused5123]

@@Toxic_MF911 Nah

[@Toxic_MF911]

@@eveningabused5123 yes tf it would 100%

[@blackraven7609]

@@Toxic_MF911 why would it tho? cause i think building ur your relationship with the characters slowly will makes it feel more rewarding instead of being given the nice treatment straight up ,especially based on the game's setting

[@soonlimbon9301]

​@@blackraven7609except it didnt built after all we done. 25min of relationship building game play all ended up on some random furry boy stealing the kill on a boss that we did 99% of the preparation and the battle. all the credit went to him. you dont 'save the world and become hero and accepted by everyone' all you got after all you done is the furry boy asking you why are you still here when u talk to him post battle. 0 appreciation and everyone lecturing you about how heroic that furry boy is, killing the boss which you did 99.99% of the work. especially by the heroin, which activate GFL2 NTR PTSD cuz they are the same writer

[@adamantine001]

The reason why Kuro listened to the CN testers most likely because they know who's gonna actually spend more money on their game. They have the statistics with previous game and there's no reason to not submit to CN testers' suggestions. It is what it is, I'd be more than happy to see Kuro thrives. Graphical improvements are also already fantastic, it went from looking like ToF to actually on par with G game.

[@bamboozledtree6803]

It's not just the CN cbt testers even the EN cbt testers didn't rly like the story in cbt 1 and gave a feedback on changing the story And honestly I hated it cuz cbt 1 just seemed so much clearer in terms of direction and what kind of world they want to show and now it just looks like a genshin copy with everyone pandering to the MC and colorful vibrant fantasy breath of the wild world rather than the post apocalyptic death stranding near automara world that they wanted to make in the begining

[@bamboozledtree6803]

My issue isn't with kurk games wanting to listen to it's audience My issue is with how kuro game sis pandering to everyone to the point where they've lost their sense of identity and original flavor for wuthering waves

[@yehua3412]

​@@bamboozledtree6803 wait for the punishment when they finally implemented the server wide ranking system.

[@GbrlPlayer]

@@bamboozledtree6803 theres zones like that in game rn, it would be bad if it was all gray areas

[@Khann_2102]

The story felt like an Isekai harem where almost every character is friendly with MC, I really wish we could have seen the original story

[@megadoodoo3194]

the older one is so much better,so many rooms for character developments instead of just constantly praising the mc,the release story is just another surface level power fantasy,it sells though.Its a shame cuz the story can be a lot stonger,but they change it and turn it into the typical everybody loves the marry sue/garry stu

[@onion69420]

So the self insert fans ruined the story again, characters felt like they have personality, it's a post apocalyptic world of couse people will be very untrusting even if you save them, they could have ulterior motive especially absorbing something so corrupted, now i feel like we have a generic isekai story with puppets as companions

[@jose17981]

We will have to blame those who tested the beta?

[@avatarxs9377]

@@jose17981 chineese players. they were dissatisfied...

[@Mio_kakit]

I don’t think that is a bad thing though. Playing through the story so far makes is still really satisfying + the world building. It doesn’t really make sense that they would be so hostile towards rover. Maybe a little bit skeptical (which they were after they changed it), but we ultimately prove ourselves through out the story with the tasks the magistrate gives us.

[@GGA_GachaGameAddict]

@@Mio_kakit Picture this: Post apocalyptic world, Exiles, threnodians, Tacet Discords that can shapeshift into humans, Most Tacet discords if not all try to kill you but somehow that is thrown out of the window and we gain the full trust of everyone from the get go? That doesn't make sense in the slightest. We came out of nowhere, they don't know our identities, we killed, soloed and ABSORBED the crownless. The personification of war and no one seems skeptical as hell?

[@haruyanto8085]

While i agree, the issue was how hostile the characters were to rover despite rover just saving them, kuro just had to tweak that aspect, not completely scrap it along with the awesome cinematic set pieces

[@jaderabbit898]

I'm honestly sad that we might never get what the original story of WuWa was. The old trailers showing Chun as well as Crownless actually being like our Vergil-like opponent, now scrapped for the new story. Don't get me wrong, I'm liking it but I still wish we could've gotten what the devs wanted.

[@Khann_2102]

Yeah Crownless is my favorite design amongst the bosses

[@twilightwolf6248]

You sat and thought that maybe their was a reason they couldn't run with the original idea?

[@Soundwave1900]

@@twilightwolf6248 yeah, there is a reason: they got scared of cn crybabies rioting over Chixia pointing a gun at us and went overboard with scrapping the prologue entirely.

[@twilightwolf6248]

@@Soundwave1900 I highly doubt that's the reason to scrap the entire prologue I think it's more of the issue of how the story would progress if everyone didn't trust you for starters if you're not trusted why would you be allowed in the city, so many aspects would be difficult to do so, you're looking too much on the smaller issues compared to the much larger.

[@Soundwave1900]

@@twilightwolf6248 That's why you gotta work on gaining their trust first, duh. That's what made it good.

[@Mr_Red.25]

Look, they literally destroyed the prologue story in official release, i can't even understand what the heck they're talking about with all those terms and strange word without any explanation

[@amarilistheodore9156]

Cn player protest😂😂😂 mad at them bro

[@sqwurrx]

i feel ya, like wtf is a tacet discord, what even is a tacet😀

[@LUCAS420BLZ]

​​@@sqwurrxpeople are made of sounds/vibrations The game is basically all about sound and reverberation hence all the music themed scenery TDS are like monsters formed from the life energy of all things and they emerge from that as basically zombie/monsters I'm still not sure how the apocalypse started and where they came from but that's the gist of what they are Think Minecraft mobs spawning when it gets dark They are monsters from the past or I guess present there's a lot of side quests explaining or alluding to Day 0 and some of them talking about random attacks it could be alien or something considering the constant giant moon when you progress the story Iunno too much yapping and reading I'll let the lore master youtubers explain just think of it as surface level as possible being alien zombie gacha walking dead last of us corruption things

[@chiquikris171]

​@@LUCAS420BLZGood to know but that should be a proper good explanation in the game Not just yapping some people dont have time to read about Damn

[@Trcz1]

@@LUCAS420BLZthis sounds funny cus the game right now barely feels music themed but we’ll see in upcoming patches

[@KristiansGamingHub]

I've never been so disappointed, CBT 1 story is pefect the crownless is so menacing and the story is serious it feels like a triple A game story

[@TheHuTao.]

It was Kuro Games’ original creative vision before CN complained about it, jeez

[@shadowreaper4970]

yeah it sucks that they made it rainbow and sunshines :( its low chance but i hope theyll shape the current story to their original vision on future updates and regions

[@lilblkrose]

Seeing CBT1 will always make me sad on what we could've had... At the very least, could have made this fight if it was too difficult for new players later time in tutorial or future

[@makoryu]

and the fact that the boss fight is not even that hard :((

[@John-ii6he]

it isnt even just the boss being hard its overall execution is so good. this is a INTRO boss, can you imagine if other tacet bosses followed similar script to this? Same with how the character's actually feel like CHARACTERS and not AI generated cut outs. (Bit of a over exaggeration some are well done in the current game, like scar, encore is cool, jiyan is relatively well portrayed)

[@txt3567]

ah.. why cant we have characters that dont trust us. everyones happy and bubbly and ready to scrifice themselves for rover like bro i met you just yesterday. make them earn my trust. id prefer if they acted at least a bit hostile or wary not straight up taking care of me like im a baby. im a stranger who appeared out of no where. at least be a little bit suspicious..

[@teknechromc2047]

in this case, CBT 1 had more fun gameplay when fighting crownless for the first time.

[@SrNickles-tn1jl]

Yes. Vibes of violence from PGR. I like it.

[@isolatedanonymous1979]

Fr I hope they try to go back to those vibes in future patches

[@SrNickles-tn1jl]

@@isolatedanonymous1979 i do not think so. Wuthering Waves aims to bigger masses of players. They made game more tolerant for this. Even developers team is different and you can see it even in main menu. The fact, that they betrayed Lee husbando to a femine male Rover says a lot.😭

[@Luxai]

But that had so much more emotion and tension in it! I didn't understand a word and I could feel the struggle and the uncertainty in everything! Why on earth would you scrap that? I'm sorry, while I normally encourage that developers listens to their fans, they still need to think through the feedback that they do get.

[@horfith]

CBT 1 story looks and feels better compared to release version, seeing Crownless absolutely bodies everyone looking badass shows that he is a threat, and yangyang constantly protects you and also sacrificing herself does make her a better character than on release (on release we don't even see how well she would perform storywise since everyone kept glazing rover). and then when everyone were put on guard because they saw you absorb crownless, (which of course didn't make sense in the characters head because like how on earth could people do that) making you untrustworthy and a threat to basically everyone and chixia pointing a gun at you was 100% justifiable. Like Rover just woke up out of nowhere, founded by yangyang and was escorted out of the gorge to safety, you've never met her and the others and also you've woke up in a strange place would cause people on high alert. But yeah I personally haven't experienced cbt 1 myself but from what I've seen, the story in cbt 1 does looked better than the overglazing on rover in release

[@chrissaiko2626]

Seeing this is like realizing or discovering your friends sudden bad attitude to you was actually her struggling mental of how to treat you as she discovered herself she likes you lmao the CBT1 Chixia got some reason for not trusting early and way more good scenario, as well as Crownless able to talk too. like imagine witness a monster you discovered that could actually communicate, both amazing and frightening. and if the reason for change is true they then don't actually deserve Kuro :(

[@bisayafascist5725]

Man, Why the hell did they change Yang yang's outfit into a generic skirt?

[@blvrdz]

pandering to the incels once again

[@MagiYellow]

Because that pants design is just ugly ?

[@bisayafascist5725]

@@MagiYellow at least it's unique, hell they could just improve upon it.

[@gianlucagiusti6174]

@@bisayafascist5725 Nah just stick a skirt on and we are good

[@sotl7749]

Mann I really really wish they had kept Crownless' voice from cbt1

[@deathshadow5316]

now this is a boss. we fought a paperweight boss for the released version

[@blackcitadel9]

I did wonder why people just automatically like us in a world where pretty much everyone outside is an exile or a member of fractsidus. I think Scar tries to "explain" it with the throwaway "no-one but me is being honest" line and the insinuation that everyone already knows who you are and how important you are. But the story being reworked explains it all.

[@BedivereD]

CBT 1 Crownless King fight was better than the current one, it's a shame they completely scrapped it.

[@haysen123]

Yeah, i thought they just changed it little bit not completely like this. Hopefully they dont take Genshin route where the story cutscene (the violence) is really nerfed so children can also play the game

[@yehua3412]

​@@haysen123 i wish there was a difficulty setting, in the log-in screen where you can choose to play easy,hard,hardcore

[@haysen123]

@@yehua3412 wait why? It is kinda online game despite a single player game. The difficulties are only based on minimum level requirement

[@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy]

​@haysen123 I disagree with the genshin point. During the fame albedo event, the fake albedo got impa Ied.

[@farrasnaufalmuflihin7347]

I dont know why but CBT 1 had simillar vibe like pgr

[@leandronascimento9960]

This is proof that Kuro needs to trust more in what they were building... The first Crownless was very good, the only change would be in the camera angles and movement improvements. I like the aggression towards our protagonist who is a strange person and deserved hostility, something they removed from the game. Listening too much to the community takes its toll.

[@Kirivera]

I had a feeling that their vision was compromised when I first heard the news they rewrote 90% of the story due to feedback. So, they basically *don't* have a vision...

[@Windtorment]

This. Finally someone else pointed out too. What Kuro is lacking, is confidence. They need to believe in themselves more.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

​@@Windtorment If players do not like what they are making, they wont bother. Gacha is Cutt throat in CN.

[@John-ii6he]

word, its great for devs to abide their communities wishes, but they changed the game too much from this vision. This alone stomps most of the story we have. This feels like an actual boss, an actual story with stakes with characters who actually are people not generated cut outs. Yes the main game has done good i have a lot to say that is good: but they didn't need to scrap this execution and all these amazing ideas.

[@SimplyMatthew]

Holy moly, this is more dark and better.... it gives me nier automata vibes and I'm here for it.

[@thattrickytrickster612]

The complaint I had for the prologue was just how smooth and quick it was for Rover to establish their relationships with everyone. I really wish they kept Chixia's guard being up because it makes sense for them to be unsure of an uber powerful stranger capable of absorbing a TD with their bare hands. It gave more urgency and life to the story. In the release, i felt like i was being catered and idolized for no reason other than being cool and the MC.

[@trisha5418]

In the released version the storyline felt flat, first characters had almost 0 link with the plot and i didn't even feel connected to any of them. Give me a reason why i should care abt these 3 characters??? They just dump so much info from the beggining with a bland story. Like nothing happened in the first 40 minutes to peak your interests in what is going on with the world

[@donut1550]

The boss of Crownless seems way more interesting in this... Especially with the scenes. Idk why they scrapped them. ALSO: that cutscene of them falling seems way more menacing, but i get that they made it so they could talk to Baizhi and theyd likely not fall with Chixia and Yangyang with them so easily.

[@heenthousiast383]

If only they kept the prologue the same

[@normilah79]

It's all because china fanbase

[@Oban2006]

I wish at least keep crownless cinematic 😢

[@heenthousiast383]

@@Oban2006 DUDE SAAAAME

[@zalome31]

Poor Crownless, he went from being an imposing boss like Alpha (in the PGR tutorial) to being just a random enemy on the map.😢

[@Syiepherze]

Yang Yang being on the brink of death would've actually made me like her character more tbh

[@blueslilcorner]

In my own thoughts having played through the current story line and how things have been and now seeing the cbt along with comments of the issues with cbt storyline, I think if there was a good mix of the two, where the characters were cautious of rover but not hateful, and as you help around, people start to properly trust you would've been more grounded and more realistic given the situation, doesn't have to be full on I dislike you even though you saved us from Crownless but rather I am grateful you helped us, but seeing what you did we would rather be cautious in case you have other plans we don't know of. Overall it could build from there with each advancement of the plot we get to know each other as a team sort of thing. Also, which peeps had issues with the darn cutscenes? Like bro, I felt that the cutscenes were so short that I was missing out. I love a good epic cutscene, and if peeps don't like it, ig a skip button would work. But honestly, bro, those cutscenes help put down that energy you're supposed to feel during the storyline. Like, if we had the cbt cutscenes and Yangyang keeping us away from harm, I would actually feel like I'd like the character rather than feeling like I was kind of forced to be nice to her at some points when I just feel like there was no substance. That's just my take in terms of the story for cutscenes and some of the feeling towards the story itself. Overall, I'm not very picky when it comes to stories as I just like to just go around and get sidetracked alot. But seeing what could've been, kinda does make me feel a little sad. Gameplay wise, I think it was okay, some of the visuals yes the older cbt might've looked cooler in some aspects, though gameplay wise I don't find too much issue.

[@ZamrayzRayzoray]

Wow, the entire story is fucking trash now because of how stupid the CN are for bullying them into change it 😭 least now we know who to blame.

[@arnowisp6244]

CN actually pays and makes them money. They can't piss off paying Customers

[@nobody-xh6ii]

It wasn't just CN. It was everyone

[@louderthenvisual]

@@arnowisp6244 what are you on? lolol everyone pays! And everyone can make them money. what about the OTHER paying customers. cn ruins everything.

[@Cight.]

CN as always.

[@Otherface]

Well, you can always blame CN for the most stupid decisions ever. It happened before in Genshin, it happened in Hololive, is happening with Wuthering Waves...

[@eckysgaming]

Wuthering Waves: the de-evolution of Crownless the current game is quite nice but i would for a few stuffs to stay obviously the Crownless boss fight should have been kept since he make a great first impression for the player to be ready for how hard this game will be second would be Wristband menu in CBT1 or was it tech test ? Rover would open their Wristband to go into the menu it was cool af

[@vishalkapri3769]

Really miss the voice of crownless and his fearsome aura

[@tarta5844]

I still prefer the cbt start but i hope they didnt change the focus they had for the story aside of how it starts

[@ECB-SanjayReddy]

Damn that action in cut scenes 🔥, Ah man what a wasted oppurtutity. I wish we got that old story 🥲.

[@TheSnackThatStrikesBack]

We HAVE to bring this back as our released version of the main story. That could've been probably the best "insane first impression" first impression story line. PERIOD.

[@Kingsfilth_]

4:18 I remember watching this footage years back when it released here on yt, this is what made me look forward to Wuthering waves. They should have kept that cutscene! plus the red/gold/black palette makes the environment super intense and unsettling. It’s such a shame but regardless, I’m still going to play and wait for future content. Currently level 35 on the EU server! 💪🏻😄

[@Poyoyorin]

Wuwa’s original prologue seemed so much fun and darker too. I probably would’ve kept reading the story if it kept that vibe. I want the characters to not trust me, to give me the cold shoulder at first, so it feels more rewarding once they trust me. It’s like how genshin did it, Amber didn’t trust us at first but became friendly after talking. I don’t understand why it wouldn’t work for Wuwa.

[@yunantheobserver6841]

I actually like the hostility and the wariness. It feels real. Believable.

[@for_you_sensei]

The release version is better in lore accuracy. But i can't understand why they deleted his voice. There is a td that can talk. And everything would be okay if strong ones could speak

[@zakwan9895]

i see, i think cbt 1 has more interesting prolog for me and just why they change it ?

[@aurovictor2286]

CN weebs don't like the prolouge that all characters are hostile towards the main characters.

[@benja9029]

the cucks felt offended that they were not being worshiped immediately after meeting for the first time hahaha it sucks but hey atleast they're paying for this game and there's atleast the combat to look forward to each patch

[@SwiftSN]

All those cutscenes were so cool. I'm so sad that it all got scrapped.

[@krysterio]

This is unrelated but since it's the story, I wanna point out that I hated how the MC was glorified as some special being from the get-go. It started as the mc having a special power that can absorb overlord-class tacet discords, WHICH IS FINE. I've read too much op mc manhwas to get used to it. BUT DO THEY REALLY HAD TO ADD by making yangyang and chixia, treat us like their boyfriend who had amnesia or smth. Or the magistrate make an announcement specifically for our rover? It felt so forced that "omg im suddenly a rlly important character, everybody wants to meet including the magistrate (and that cool scar guy)." The story made me uncomfortable treating me like a patriot right from the start. I know we are the mc and yeah there is explanations why we are being treated like this (just to capture scar). But the way it feels is just ew. I hope that the story later on has some sort of huge risk to the mc, hopefully not yangyang ang chixia being our besties and we have to save them. For now, no clear indication on what the mc wants. Dude only wants to uncover his memories and thats kinda unclear to what the actual objective of the story is

[@blueberry7478]

I preferred the CBT1 VERSION, but I told myself that there should be a good reason they changed it. Forcing me, to follow the whole (new) story

[@satriareza7501]

cn community did not like the story, that is why kuro scrapped it

[@nobody-xh6ii]

​@@satriareza7501not just cn

[@ayazmhmd7206]

This looks far more better than the released one. It feels more alive

[@kurimiaisukurimu]

So basically they made the story worse to appease the hurt feelings of some CN players that were expecting a self-insert wish fulfillment fantasy story. What a blunder.

[@user-ky2hg7fg4j]

Uh, no? You people need to stop making up crap in your heads. CN Beta testers didn't want it to be a self-insert with overly friendly characters from the start, they wanted the story to make sense and stop conflicting itself. The writers are the problem here, they completely misinterpreted what fans wanted.

[@gianlucagiusti6174]

The complaints of CN players were valid. It's the writers who did a fucking 180 without need

[@Kirivera]

These people did freakin' Punishing Gray Raven. How did they mess this up so badly? 😔

[@anastasiaekimova5101]

@@user-ky2hg7fg4j it doesn't make sense now tho

[@Kramer8]

​@@Kirivera different team

[@jeremylui9572]

CBT1: Crownless can beat 3 girls in P1, so crownless > 3 girls. Main character kills Crownless, so main character > crownless. And then the red hair can point her gun to the fking invicible main character lol

[@cryojaxc]

I can't believe they scrapped the Crownless' dialogues?!

[@kehan6252]

This is just my hope. I heard that Kuro were running out of budget which is why they needed to release the game really early (it can be noticeable that they released it too early since their license wasn't expiring yet and the game seemed quite unfinished). A lot of things seemed rush but I think Kuro wanted to release it so they could generate a lot of income initially. So in order to do get as many players as possible (i.e. possibly more income), they had to satisfy the players' critics. So I think that once Kuro understands that the game generates a good enough revenue and the players feel a good attachment to the game, they would slowly start reverting back to their intending style. Which means, at some point in the game, things would become really dark, characters would become hostile, the music would be intense and aggressive. I really hope that will be the case

[@Jackson-nr2mw]

I definitely get the vibes that the devs lack confidence in their own vision

[@kehan6252]

@Jackson-nr2mw I too felt the same. Hopefully they start getting confident in their choices and stops listening to the community too much

[@MyFeuerFrey]

The changes are there because cn players complained. If anything this means the future of the game is more Mc glazing

[@kehan6252]

​@@MyFeuerFrey I mean if players complained about the initial story due to things like bad pacing and vague dialogs. Then I would've been happy that the devs changed it. But the complaints were about the characters being hostile towards the MC and some of the characters getting hurt (e.g. the Crownless beating up Chixia, Baizhi and YangYang). I honestly preferred the initial story (and quite a few other people too preferred it) since the story started off in a way that I'm not used to. The characters behavior towards the MC made a lot of sense since they live in a chaotic world. So I really do hope the story hasn't changed too much and that the released story would get really dark at some point

[@erizkatwiska4396]

2:49 The One Inch Punch

[@lhobang]

He had just not do that, but he could just do that cus he could

[@Atmos_Glitch]

Man, wish they kept the futuristic UI aesthetic and just improve on it, I don't get why they chose to change it smh...

[@Eldr1tchGl1tch]

because most of the testers were genshin players. and CN player bases suck in every gacha game.

[@Buzzard0327]

I won't say much, because there are so many things to comment on, but there is something that has been bothering me a lot, how they defend the change to Chixia from pointing a gun at the Rover, to being "best friends" without knowing the Rover. I saw that they criticize a lot of Chixia's action of pointing a gun at Rover after saving everyone's asses, but we must keep in mind that Rover not only killed the monster (Sin Corona) that defeated the 3 , but it also "devours" it. And yes, it still seems stupid to point a gun at "something" that is stronger than the thing that defeated you, and your 2 friends, but there is a human emotion called "fear of the unknown", and it is a pretty reaction. normal the truth, I mean, if you were in a situation of being attacked by a Lion and it is about to kill you, and suddenly a Grizzly Bear appears and pounces on the Lion, that doesn't mean you are going to think that the Grizzly bear is you ally, right? I suppose that for Chixia seeing the Rover "devour" the Crownless, after beating him (something that 3 couldn't do) would be like seeing someone get shot in the vital points, and not die, you wouldn't see him as human right? It is simple fear of the unknown. Although supposedly, as I read, the problem was that you couldn't "gain trust" like in an eroge or things like that, but they only had to fix that part, that literally by undermining "friendship exp" the PJs' attitude would improve. Now it's just another boring Genshin Impact (Family Friendly). [KEYBOARD TRANSLATION]

[@futavadumnezo]

It's another Genshin clone now! 😭

[@leediaz5690]

I will keep in my mind that CBT 1 is the original lore. Release intro was the kid rated version. Chixia showing her teeth, Baizhi caring and Yangyang shows how near death looks like in their universe are all great

[@Corteslatinodude]

WTH that was scrapped?! that was very good.

[@richardsanjaya1426]

i really like CBT prologue more than the one we have right now. imagine struggling to build trusts between you and chixia and the others to the point it's all build up for that "avengers! assemble" moment in Act 6. OR i am expecting a plot twist with current prologue. everyone loves you, trust you, hubba hubba, to the point where the Havoc side of you got more dominant than your spectro. then you're becoming the villain and trying to destroy the land. you know, like those angel beats;little busters anime etc. where everything seems fine at the beginning until there was a little "spark" blow up.

[@fly2724]

I will share this to anyone I meet who plays. This is just unbelievable 😢

[@PunkieDudie]

WAIT there was dialogue from the Crownless??? Okay, this is the first time I've seen this, and I heavily prefer the groundedness from CBT1. It is different from the lightness from release (from the get-go) and how other games, "Such as Genshin and Star Rail" first began). I don't know any information about this game before release (as I just found the game at launch) and the vibe and overall feeling of how they approach their theme and narrative seems more interesting than what we have now. Don't get me wrong, what they have now is interesting and beautiful, but there is something very.. grasping, about how 'serious' it was, and how they manage to revolve around the mystery of their main protagonist seems more, fascinating within less than 2 mins. But though, that's how I felt upon just watching this, as what we have now is still quite enjoyable as it is. (Also, I see that other people are talking about how the characters were not friendly from the get-go, but I find it more interesting that they did that route, as let's say, over time, when Rover gained their trust and learned more about them, then we get the character's behavior, light and bubbly. Though that sounds more than a difficult task to pull that off just right.) And WOW, there were so many more interesting cutscenes from CBT!

[@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1]

For the people thinking they changing the story to meet the "CN sensibilities": That ain't the full truth. If you look it up, you'll realize that the story itself in general was bad and everybody in general was treating you like sh1t for no reaon. it was constantly relying on this "our game cool cuz our characters don't like you" trope I'm not saying they didn't softened up the game a little bit but to blame it all on fans is a bit too much Case in point, Scar is still a piece of sh1t. Bro literally threatened to kill us before Jhinshi came in to save us and if a guy like him is still doing his thing despite the "meeting the CN sensibilities" stuff we keep on hearing, maybe the story was just bad in general, just like many other things at that time

[@arnowisp6244]

TY for understanding. Seriously. If you know the "Why you are still here" Meme and killstealer taking all the credit for you beating a boss than yes. There was no reason for Rover not to go through there Villain arc.

[@boobis88]

Calmly. Everyone understood that you are soy Chinese

[@areyoutrippin9730]

Is this why we lost this perfect bossfight and cutscene?

[@leonmystique9372]

I still prefer the characters being slightly cautious. It was clear they took an inspiration from the Mihoyo games and listened to feedback But wouldn’t it make more sense to be cautious in the beginning? Chixia is a part of the police force in Jinzhou, and she has her right to be like that. But nope, she ends up carefree right from the start. Which I do not like.

[@arnowisp6244]

@@leonmystique9372 They were straight up discriminatory 8th how they distrust you not cautious. Literally you had no reason to help them despite you helping them. He was realistically going to have a villain arc.

[@jasondads9509]

What the heck this is so much better

[@giansabbadini1626]

Kuro were cooking with the cinematics even all the way back then

[@commandershepard5878]

This is overcorrecting in a nutshell

[@SolHati0828]

I hope the current story picks up its pace...

[@austinnguyen9107]

Good to know Kuro can actually write good stories. Hopefully the future ones will be better

[@CaelusXFirefly69]

Ahh so that's why I don't really get the impact when i first start the story. Only after the end of the quest i feel excited.. man why would they did my man crownless dirty 😭

[@z-dragongaming]

DAYUM the difference tho..!! This is a surprise for all of us 👍👍👍👍👍

[@zir456]

Honestly seeing Rover suddenly OP and beat Crownless after She surprised He caught the sword and She unable to dodge make no sense at all😬 also Crownless at 10:12 look badass but lost to basic moves WTF Them removing this 10:12 was crazy

[@kamisatonoodle5287]

WHY IS THE FLOW OF THE STORY IN CBT BETTER???? AND THE TRANSITIONS TOO!!! like?? whyyy

[@LostWallet]

honestly, the red and white crownless look kinda sick

[@fireworks8169]

CBT 1 was way better then the current version I like the CBT 1 story and the boss fight more and the cut sence from the fight. I really dot like the new story.

[@ssjblckgohn1569]

Without the dialogues, that shrug of Crownless feels like a joke now. Cbt1 was great.

[@alannagarcia9656]

12:48 was sick. I would like to see it in the final version

[@miguiREC]

Why did we lose the transitions between battle and cutscene? Those were dope af lol

[@shini183]

So I guess the storywriter was the one responsible for changing this? Their starting point on release is super weak like everyone immediately praise MC like he's never a stranger. Then I watched this and saw they had a perfect intro that's not a lackluster. And then they fired the storywriter (and EN VA director but that's a different case) probably because of this change. Imagine if the storywriter kept this intro, they would keep their job and more players would probably still playing.

[@Windtorment]

That writer deserved to be fired. His re-writing was horrendous.

[@Jackson-nr2mw]

it might because their wasn't a writer 😅 I've heard rumors they were hiring writers

[@Jon_302]

I never wanted to skip the cutscenes in wuwa. Now I have every reason to

[@Kagetora-]

Lots of yapping too

[@jacquesewes2218]

It's funny how i got an ad for Zenless Zone Zero after 1 minute of this video

[@jle1352]

Glad they keep the CBT1 version of how Crownless appear... that moment is so damn good fr.

[@roller4312]

1:05 wow okay!