Hudson H9 vs Steyr M9A1 Pistol

Hudson H9 vs Steyr M9A1 Pistol "Battle of the Low Bore Axis!
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[@ahhhyesss69ing]

Steyr engineers and production: A+ Steyr marketing: D-

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

Ethan Matala, I can only agree completely. Please get a Steyr to rent into some major gun ranges. I can't keep trying to offer mine at the range, people will start to think that I am funny.

[@PartranTiger]

Their Customer Service is great too. If you want to handle a Steyr just send them a note and they do all the legwork to get one into your hands. I absolutely love my M9-A1

[@evans.3720]

@@PartranTiger Exactly how i ended up getting mine, couldn't have been easier or more pleasant to deal with

[@JacksonWalter735]

Reminds me of Beretta outside of their 92 variants.

[@tyonarms6735]

Steyr is the best unknown pistol on the American market.

[@lachlanchase5887]

@Marcos Davian yea, have been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself =)

[@Pyrosis22]

SIG and others did infringe on Steyrs patents and need to pay up. The Steyr is a much nicer pistol too.

[@terrydiller]

People are sleeping on the Steyr, it's a great pistol with outstanding handling.

[@JimRodgers]

Steyer any day, every day. Awesome pistol.

[@Dacos127]

No comparison, Steyr for the win. Better performance, better price, better quality = much better gun!

[@darkwolfhollow1]

Steyr for the win.

[@zszs123]

Steyr answers everything Glocks doesn't..Steyr are like a fine tool...

[@beargunn7820]

Very interesting pairing for a head-to-head review. I like it! GREAT REVIEW as always, Sootch!

[@bosse641]

Steyr for the win. So cool that piece. Special.

[@Sheppard2030]

I’ve been looking for more information about the Hudson H9. This was great! Thank you. 👍🏻

[@rpharbaugh]

I own a Hudson. and I only paid 800 dollars new. best damn thing I ever owned. shooters at the range are shocked how accurate it is assuming you know how to shoot.

[@fumasterchu12]

Love both of these pistols, but if I was choosing I would stick with my H9. It is an absolute joy to shoot, love everything about it. Another great review brother, have a great rest of the week!

[@bennygerow]

Another great vid! You put so much time and work into the them!

[@CutandShoot5x5]

DP you’re vids are the best! I always take something valuable from them!!!!

[@GBGuns]

Interesting mix! My Hudson never arrived (promised delivery by Jul17), but I have a couple of Steyrs waiting for my next trip to the range. Thanks for the video!

[@huyly605]

I really love your reviews @sootch00 keep up the good work! one of the best reviewer in the gun community!

[@jwc00789]

Excellent comparison review! I was hoping someone would compare these two Pistols and here it is! I have the Steyr L9A1 with the DPM Recoil System installed and love it!

[@PartranTiger]

I have a Steyr M9, use it as my carry pistol. The trapezoidal sights take a little getting used to but I find it easier to get on target with it over any other sight style. The factory trigger is fantastic. I still want a Hudson H9 though, I think a few generations of improvements from now it'll be a real gem.

[@Kawboy65]

The Steyr is by far the best polymer pistol I have ever fired. It makes you not want to try anything else.

[@gtfuentes5814]

Kawboy65 I don’t have one myself but I compared a friends m40? Against my glocks, xdm, beretta 96, custom Ngai 1911 in 40, cz75.....I may have had others that day but don’t remember. Anyway, the steyr was softer shooting and seemed to have less muzzle flip. I was using as test Ammo...lawman 165 gr which are fairly hot 40 caliber.

[@Kawboy65]

I have the L9-A1, which is the full size 9mm. It amazes me that, if I am having a bad range day and seem not to be able to hit with my other guns, I can pull the Steyr out and instantly start shooting good groups again. I did have to put Talon type rubber grips on it because there isn't enough grip out of the box. If they would have marketed these pistols strongly when they first came out, I don't think there would be nearly as many polymer pistols on the market today.

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

You are right, the Steyr is my carry pistol, they are excellent pistols. The Hudson fails A LOT. Most of the gun channels that I watch have had a failing Hudson video. There is really no competition. The Steyr is less than half the price.

[@gunsandmuchmorechannel709]

I am enjoying watching your videos even more. Yours is the go to channel for no nonsense review and unbiased opinion.

[@nerdyhustle]

Great video! And great insight on why Hudson didn’t go with polymer, I wondered. Thanks Sootch!

[@bradbo3]

Both are very sharp looking....like them both. Price would force me to buy the Steyr.

[@weedXD38]

Solid Review!!! Long live a the Republic!!!

[@purtyboyfloyd2290]

Should be a good challenge!!! Thanks for the videos fella!!! 🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸

[@sootch00]

Thanks Doug!

[@craigpetty2041]

Awesome, that answers my question, thanks Aaron

[@jeremyorr7469]

Styer has better price stand point and service history I will take the styer m9

[@hyperhapkidodarys]

My self went to the range and I did a small competition, H9 vs Archon type b And I have to say for me the Archon won 1 place, I put it this way 1. Archon 2. H9 & Steyr

[@dougwilliams8602]

Thanks. I have the Steyr and thinking seriously of getting the Hudson

[@drmaudio]

Great review.

[@josephblaylock4051]

This video really hit the spot for me . I’m just about to buy one of these guns. Leaning towards the Steyr.

[@ScreamingSkullSaloon]

Go with the Steyr. You will not regret it!

[@Hangfire79]

Ranger Point Precision makes not only the steel guide rod, but also a brass weight that installs in the dust cover. Makes a already flat shooting pistol even flatter.

[@doug9418]

Well worth watching, great video Sir thanks for sharing, God Bless you and your family 🇺🇸 stay safe

[@apb2887]

Even though I own a few it's tough for me to justify spending $1k + on a pistol. There are so many rifles out there for around the 1k-1.5k price point that I'd rather have...Plus there is a ton of great pistols out there for 400/600

[@leonardjanda6181]

Steyr all the way period!!! And for the press check stuff it's for the movies period

[@dcox5555]

I have a Steyr L9 with a custom steel guide rod/ spring and brass flip weight all from ranger precision and it’s my baby! That being said....I want a Hudson as well! Love the unconventional designs! You can tell it’s worth every penny of that $1000.00. Looks very high quality. I bet the tolerances are pretty tight on that baby! Always a Steyr man though. It’s definitely my go to “business” piece. Love your videos Sootchy !

[@DavidMN-]

"This one fits my haaaand better than this one". Comparison videos are just a good excuse for the shooter to go through a lot of rounds shooting a few guns back to back. And I am jealous :-) Great comparison.

[@waldmeisterbrehm]

great infomational video! greetings from cologne, germany arthur

[@josephblaylock4051]

So would a Steyr be better for having both the larger M model and the S model for training, one for truck or home and one for concealed carry but both close if not the same as far as controls and feel as opposed to having a Hudson and a compact Steyr?

[@quintonpeters8980]

Joseph Blaylock that would make sense to me. I carry the S9-A1 and it’s easy to carry but yet can get a full grip unlike dangling a pinkie on the Glock 26

[@Gizmo_The_Familiar]

Bergara B14 HMR review? Good job on this video.

[@r.h.c.markgreenevilletn6851]

Great video love the style of the steyr not crazy about the hudson not just because it crazy priced

[@narendrairengbam112]

If you look closely, you can see how far the barrel is up and away from the trigger on Hudson. It's just the grip angle is tilted to bring the rear of the grip closer to the upper slide and front way down and far from the barrel or the slide. While on the styer the trigger, the rear grip, both are very close to the barrel. The larger area on the front of both the pistols are set up in a very different way, the two are not equally placed at all. On styer the larger area comes just in front of the trigger guard and just below the barrel, while on hudson, the larger area is gradually slimming down above the trigger compartment, so the whole trigger segment stays below that larger area and is very confusing.

[@RSPDiver]

This Hudson will be a collectable. I want to love it, but the price and non AL frame...

[@mopar_dude9227]

RSPDiver the Hudson will be on Forgotten Weapons (actually it has already...🤔) when Ian’s son takes over in 20-30 years.

[@GunsWithGage]

My steyr trigger is amazing, Better than my PPQ Tac

[@broccolicommando1732]

I like the hudson h9 hopefully they come up with a hudson H- 45

[@peabody2470]

As much as I admire the ingenuity of Hudson and their efforts to create a hybrid 1911 striker-fire pistol, I would prefer to have 2 separate pistols (standard 1911, and striker-fire pistol, such as a Steyr) in my collection.

[@TheeGlocktopus]

"little bit of mush" isn't there on pre a1 models or a1 models. Your model has a roll pin under the sight post. You will here their marketing spin of "it improves the trigger" and this is one of those things that's partly true, because it does increase the durability of a part, but the main reason it's there is to add "a little bit of mush" during the take up to the trigger for legal/liability/lawyer reasons. Pre 04 models have the best triggers.

[@josephblaylock4051]

Ok, first , if I were to buy a M9-a1 steyr as opposed to a Hudson 9mm would I be better off because the same platform of the steyr S9-A1 is it’s little brother as far as concealed carry? Both Steyr models are the same and one should train with the same platform?

[@dttrandom]

I would stay away from the S9-A1 and the C9-A1 at this point. The short barreled Steyrs, S models and C models, have had many many reports of erratic ejection and brass to the face. The Ls and Ms don't seem to have that problem. There's a Steyr forum with Steyr pistol enthusiasts and many have reported on this issue coming from the S9-A1 and C9-A1. I have the L9-A1 and the S9-A1. The L9 is my favorite pistol, and I own or have owned Glocks, M&Ps, CZ-75B, Walther PPQ, and other less known brands. I love my Steyr L9-A. My S9-A1 however, gave me lots of trouble, including brass to the face and top of the head, as well as failure to go into battery issues. The S9 also only comes with magazines that are plugged to only have 10 rounds, though the magazine itself is long enough to hold 12 if it didn't come plugged from the factory. They can take the longer magazines from the M9s but of course those will stick out.

[@ScreamingSkullSaloon]

Great vid! I actually own the exact same Steyr M9-A1 on OD Green and I absolutely love it! While my PPQ Navy has a high bore axis it is still my favorite out of all of my handguns, even my CZ P10c. The Steyr M9-A1 is the most underrated handgun out there. It is extremely ergonomic, accurate and reliable. The trigger on the Steyr comes close to the PPQ and P10c trigger. The only cons I have about the Steyr is that it is a bit heavy (Which can be considered a pro on the other hand) and that the serrations are a bit shallow.

[@ostiariusalpha]

The barrels are also a bit on the short side for the given slide length due to the grip angle. Still an amazing gun, but a definite drawback.

[@kenhelmers2603]

Thanks Sootch :)

[@dorjedriftwood2731]

Steyr looked rough to me, I was surprised because I figured their answer would be smoother shooting maybe it’s just the weight. Since the steyr fans are pushing I will say go Hudson.

[@jerryjohnsonii4181]

The Steyr all the way. I can buy a Steyr M9A1 and a 1000 rounds of 9mm 115 grain for the same price if i was going to buy a Hudson H9. I think the Hudson H9 is a good firearm, but not a tool for combat and SHTF situations another great review and long live the republic Sootch00.

[@davidherbst]

Can’t wait for the rematch when the aluminum frame Hudson comes out.

[@jephrosencil4895]

It would be interesting to see the steyr vs the hudson aluminum frame model. Nonetheless thanks for the good review!

[@SlammingEDdog]

SOOTCH 00 my man I bought three weapons because I love your channel you did 454 Casull Ruger Redhawk big bore gun I just bought the 500 Smith & Wesson why don't you do a video on that will love it 😊

[@mhlaw229]

This is off topic but have you done a review on any of the Glocks in 357 Sig? I have all 3 models, G31, G32 and G33 and really like the 357 round. Especially the Underwood 125 grain JHP for carry. I carry the G33 with a G32 magazine and a X-Grip mag sleeve. Really shoots and carries well

[@makevelicustoms]

Great vid as always but I think if you added hard endurance reliability and long term round count stats you would be making you’re vids a lil better.

[@lasersharksushi1975]

I was able to pick up a hudson a while back. To those considering, for commonality sake I'd recommend that you get the steyr. But if I can say this, the Hudson although larger due to the 1911 grips, it's absolutely got a lower bore axis than the steyr. Also, look at them side by side, the Hudson isn't just the bore axis, it's the spring placement. The Hudson spring is directly in front of the trigger, and that directs more of the recoil straight back. Idk, just consider everything, especially since Hudson went bankrupt and never got to make a polymer frame.

[@Liam-B]

Got to see a Hudson ejector snap at the range today. It was a beat up rental though.

[@AllanG1914]

Let me tell you about Hudson's custom service. My take down pin was hard to take out. I just got off a chat with Cy Hudson himself who walked me throught it. 6 to 6:30 pm (PST) and that 8 pm + in Temple, Texas where Hudson is located. Never had a CEO of a company communicate with me especially in real time....after business hours. If you look at other video's and Hudson Facebook group posts, he frequently chimes in. The ability to get in touch with the CEO is a huge plus in my book. I don't recall the last time the CEO from Sig, Wilson, or CZ messaged me in real time on an issue I was having. Oh, I needed more force to get the take down pin out.

[@kegankid]

Just wanted a piece of advice so I’m looking for a potential handgun to serve a specific purpose the home I have is filled with lots of small to mid size critters and I was looking between 2 really different handguns 1. A standard 9mm specifically the ruger security 9 or 2. The ruger gp100 in 22lr if you can please provide a little feedback on which of these handguns I should consider buying more

[@shoofly9403]

What about a trigger job on the H9? How hard to get to a 4lb trigger pull? A comparison between a Hudson H9 and Wilson EDC X9 - which shoots faster and better would be awesome?

[@levinlevinallday]

Love my steyr. Definitely overlooked as is the Grand Powers. Only would be interested in the Hudson for a collectors piece because i just dont see alot of love for it and dont think a small company could sustain with mediocre sales unfortunately.

[@insertgoodname4809]

The Styer's trigger is too low and with the rear being so high it unnaturally tilts you whole hand downwards. That Hudson is just beautiful.

[@joej6510]

I am fortunate to own a Gen 1 Steyer and my experience with it matches The Soochster’s view.

[@Roadrider19119]

I love my Steyr, but you are so right. The first time I shot it , I was high. I was able to to adjust,after one magazine. Would like to shoot the Hudson,but it’s out of my price range.

[@Hangfire79]

Shouldn't shoot while high. Messes with your aim. 🤣

[@stonewall11b1984]

@sootch00 are you 100% sure I can swap the sights of a Hudson H9 for any M & P sights? If that’s the case, that would be great news. Thank you sir.

[@eltenda]

Both very nice!

[@USAUSAM82]

Hasnt the hudson had some reliability issues in the past. I seem to remember the recoil spring walking loose and rendering the gun inoperable right about 700 - 1000 shots in other videos.

[@rhino2104]

You can find the Steyr in 357Sig as well as .40S&W. They also come in a long frame (L-A), mid frame (M-A), compact frame (C-A), and a subcompact (S-A).

[@googleSux]

Probably one of the most underrated Euro hand guns ever.

[@rhino2104]

I'd even say one of the most underrated hand guns period, not just euro hand guns. They're a real dream to shoot and shoot better than pretty much everything else in their price range.

[@brilliantradience]

I really like the Steyr but the early models had the weak extraction spring issue and the company was in denial, has it been fixed or will I have to wait for the embargo against the Russians to be removed to buy the PL-15 Lebedev?.

[@elsullo2]

Thanks for another good and useful review! It's not clear though: is the Hudson single action, with only the trigger safety? The Steyr is only partially cocked when racked, like a Glock, so it is always double action. Also, like the Glock, that front sight is SUPPOSED to appear high when you extend your arm, so that you never have to seek it out to aim it and can just drop it into its vision slot as a natural part of applying the trigger. Me much big like me Steyr……………………..elsullo

[@paulh6101]

Scotch could u tell us what's ur compact pistol date? As well as ur go to carry pistol?

[@markbecker71]

Love my steyr..

[@philip4227]

Love my Steyer M9 A1

[@Adwrigh]

I feel as though my CZ-SP01 Tac and my 1911 had a daughter and she had a baby with the VP9. That would be the H9! I feel as though the h9’s chassis will transcend the h9’s future generations and any of the changes will be lighter frame materials, coatings and improved wearable parts like springs.

[@stephenscharff9666]

I checked out a Hudson at my local gun shop I thought it was a pile of crap it operated rough and the trigger was super long it felt like it was seven pounds of trigger before broke the thing just was horrible I don't know which one you've got it must be an improvement but the one I checked out with a elephant with two thumbs

[@s.gilbertdyer8683]

Does the Steyr have custom aftermarkets parts to take advantage of the chassis system.

[@ostiariusalpha]

Sadly, not so much. As Sootch pointed out, the chassis isn't the serialized part, so you can't swap it from the grip module in any way.

[@purplerocket4300]

I'll take the Steyr, thank you very much

[@leetexas3924]

👍 🤠 Good video and review, thanks pardner God Bless (us all)

[@limit2index]

I really wish you would dedicate an entire video on where to find sub-packs to compartmentalize items within our bags? Please make a video, as I am not not sure I will actually ever receive a link within an email... and this is an issue that you may not have even considered, but links to the providers within a video about these interior canvas (or, otherwise) bags would be extremely helpful!

[@jason200912]

do one on cz shadow 2 (or a cz75/sp01)vs laugo alien (not out yet) vs hudson h9.... which has the lowest possible recoil/bore axis using your highest 9mm ++ loads. and other components of a review

[@iangrau-fay592]

I love my Steyr, price to value it is a great weapon.

[@jameslopez9661]

Its so hard to find a l9 steyr at a store.

[@igotatan1]

I bought my L9 at Sportsman Guide. Budsgunshop.com also.

[@PartranTiger]

Go to Steyr's website, toss them a note, they'll handle FFLing one to any store near you or find one near you that already has one. Their customer service is top notch.

[@travispowell2471]

Handled the Hudson, didn't get to shoot it tho. Felt pretty nice. But have both L9 and M9. And they better than any other polymer pistol I have ever shot. Its my choice for IDPA matches. Fast, accurate and flat shooting.

[@kennungesser]

How flat do they shoot in comparison to the CZ 75 SPO1?

[@devonboyd533]

You should do a review on the lionheart regulus

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

That's a weird head to head... They're really for different things. H9 is a target pistol, the steyr is a combat pistol. Still, steyr is a better, more proven gun with better ergos and looks like less recoil even. I'll wait for the Laugo arms alien to get excited over 9mm again.

[@realUlfricStormcloak]

Maximus Joseppi it has Steying power.

[@Courtesyflush52]

He said multiple times that the H9 kicked less. But also if either gun is reliable, no reason they both can't be used for anything

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

Courtesyflush52 he says a lot of things I don't agree with. And the Hudson has a known issue with the recoil guide rod backing out even with red locktite on it. Wouldn't trust it in a defense situation. Only reason I don't own one.

[@ryc3rz]

Hey, thanks for the info. I never heard about Laugo Alien- it's very interesting gun design. I'm sure though that I'll watch it one day on Forgotten Weapons :)

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

KAMOMI ya... I'm so praying it's a real gun. Honest outlaw says he's been hearing it's real and should be developed though 🤞🏻

[@captsam54]

Nice.. like both....

[@midwest1228]

I like the comparison. No they aren't really in the same line of things, but first time I saw the Hudson.. Well it reminded me of the Steyer. I look at the Hudson as more of a nitch gun ,than something I would use for everyday. If the funds allowed for it, why not.. Every video I've seen.. It's obvious it handles recoil like no other! However, that's the thing..I kinda like a pistol that has some snap to it! It's why I enjoy shooting! For me the Steyr it's every bit of a unique design.... That I could still use as a serious defense weapon if, God forbid, I ever had to.

[@scottperson9487]

Thanks for another nice video. On the Steyr couldn't you buy a frame via an FFL and then change the chassis out? Kind of like an AR lower, or Glock frame? Of course assuming Steyr Maes frames available.

[@wesleyglover7410]

You could, theoreticaly do so yes. Steyr doesn't sell just the frame though. You might get in touch with Steyr USA and mention that as an idea. The CEO of the US branch wants to make Steyr a more advertised brand here in the states.

[@darwinsmonkeybutler2113]

Does anyone have any thoughts as to the suitability of either of these pistols in a military environment? Too fragile?

[@danhogan9342]

If I missedit sorry. What about the Steyer vs CZ P-09?

[@toledo152]

I like my Steyr but I did change out the sights

[@jtnm76]

Did you have a ricochet at 14:09 after the last shot? Seen something fly back and hit that big leaf

[@Lurchtacular]

jtnm76 damn...good eye lol

[@MrsJackie2011]

I have the Steyr C-9 A-1. I have retired it to bedside protection only. The C-9 ejects the casing right back on to your upper torso. Steyr replaced the ejector. I still have the problem. There is nothing like having hot casing in shirt....

[@wesleyglover7410]

It's gotta be something with the size then, the Ms and Ls don't do that. I've only taken 1 casing to the face and it was from deflecting off the plexi at tge range. There are a lot of small tweeks and differences between the bigger modles and the smaler ones.

[@Zundfolge]

I would say the comparison isn't all that fair (because the Hudson is a high end boutique gun and its excellent) but the Steyr really holds its own against a gun that weighs almost twice and costs almost 3 times as much. I've been EDCing a Steyr M40 (pre A1 gun) since early 2001 ... for a while I swapped out an S40 as it carries a little better, but eventually returned to the M for the capacity. I wish they'd make the new OD Green M-A1 in .40 I'd have one in a heartbeat. I also suspect if I ever met Wilhelm Bubits and found that he'd left a pair of custom fit gloves laying around, I could probably steal them and know they'd fit me perfectly. He also designed the Caracal, but I won't buy one of them because they're made by people that want to murder me (and apparently the QC isn't all that good).

[@ranjitmarape8035]

Amazing......

[@MDpolo]

Thanks for another nice review. On the Hudson, did you notice any looseness of the barrel while the slide was in full battery? There is an H9 sitting at my LGS and I almost bought it until I noticed that in full battery I could move the barrel up and down by pressing on the barrel hood. I tried it in other guns at the store and at home and none of them have that play. Thoughts? Thanks!

[@rdb8509]

Got my H9 for $800 2 months ago. Love it!

[@Hangfire79]

And now the company is bankrupt and offline from what I hear.

[@rdb8509]

@@Hangfire79 Yep, that's too bad. I hope they can get reorganized. Hate to see that happen to a small business.

[@toolivan]

The look Of the H9 is unique 🤔👏👏👍

[@pplebite8844]

I love those guns! Because Uniqueness.