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Huge 12 x Diver's Watch Comparison - All Swiss Made Automatics!

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Wristwatch Dave

Wristwatch Dave

3 жыл бұрын

Warning - this is a long video! I decided to compare and rate 12 Swiss Made automatic dive watches - Crazy! These are all under £2,000 and I hope this helps people that are looking for a dive watch in this category but are a bit undecided. The watches range in price from £350 to £2,000 and are a mix of well known brands and lesser known brands. The list of watches in this video are as follows:
TAG HEUER AQUARACER
ETERNA KONTIKI 1973
BALL FIREMAN NECC
EDOX SKYDIVER NEPTUNIAN
ORIS AQUIS
LONGINES HYDROCONQUEST
CHRISTOPHER WARD C60 TRIDENT PRO
MIDO OCEAN STAR
CERTINA DS ACTION DIVER
TISSOT SEASTAR
GLYCINE COMBAT SUB
STEINHART OCEAN ONE
It's not feasible to include every Swiss diver under £2k so there are some good ones that have missed out unfortunately, such as Squale, Doxa Sub 200, Hamilton Scuba, Monta, Davosa, Revue Thommen and more.

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@lancehunter3821
@lancehunter3821 3 жыл бұрын
What an awesome video! I haven't seen this under $2K comparison on any other watch channels. Excellent job, Dave! Thank you.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for your positive comments Lance - much appreciated. Glad you liked it. 👍
@3184vaibhav
@3184vaibhav 3 жыл бұрын
Longines Hydroconquest is best. I owned before 1 month back. Very nice Value of money
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and thank you for watching. 👍
@Baste_Bastesen
@Baste_Bastesen Жыл бұрын
Good review, but i already got myself a Dark grey Longines. No regrets at all, happy with your review of the Longines
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 Жыл бұрын
Good choice!
@shawncoughlin8383
@shawncoughlin8383 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the pacing of this video, it had my attention for the entire 35 minutes. I look forward to watching the rest of your catalogue.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! - Thank you for your positive feedback 👍
@dimman6892
@dimman6892 2 жыл бұрын
Longines hydroconquest is supergood. Certina is great too
@patman147
@patman147 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review been helpful. I just started my diver collection. I have the Longines, Glycine, Certina, and I got he Orient Kamasu. I have bought each when there was a good sale and couldn't pass on the pricep. The Longines Hydroconquest was twice the cost, or more than all the others, but best value I love it. I plan on buying the Oris Aquis, Edox Skydiver, Mido Ocean 600m, and Hamilton Khaki Sub with upgraded bezel. Thanks for the video it really helped me decide which Divers to buy.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent - you cannot go wrong with any of those watches on your list. Glad you found the video helpful 👍
@plumberjoe80
@plumberjoe80 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the Ward or the Hydroconquest are the best value for $ in the group. The Steinhart is also a great value if you like homage watches. I get my Combat Sub tomorrow from the post. It has an upgraded sapphire bezel insert. My first Swiss diver. These are all brands on my radar. The Ward is the best looking watch in the group in my opinion.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree - The C.Ward really is incredible for the price. Congratulations on the Combat Sub - another fantastic great value dive watch. 👍
@engineercar
@engineercar Ай бұрын
Very nice collection, IMO I will choose the Edox Neptunian, or the Certina DS. Longines is very good but too classic for me..
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 Ай бұрын
Good choice! Thanks for watching.
@leonjones3473
@leonjones3473 3 жыл бұрын
I'd pick the Oris but only because I own one ;) also have you seen the Ball Hydrocarbon original? Cracking looking diver but still a bit pricey at the moment... keep those videos coming great content mate!
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 3 жыл бұрын
The Oris is a fine watch! Yes, I have seen the Hydrocarbon original. It's a stunner but is expensive as you say. Thanks for the feedback and thank you for watching! 👍
@ThinkingAndInkingLtd
@ThinkingAndInkingLtd 2 жыл бұрын
Christopher Ward 100%. Anyone who hasn't been sensible enough to at least order one and (carefully) try it in should NOT be commenting on quality (looks etc sure, that's subjective). Because then you will know. And if you don't like it, you have 60 days to return it as long as you haven't worn/damaged it. So, no brainer innit?
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I totally agree with everything you say. I have not yet come across any brand of watch that can compete with Christopher Ward for that price. Thanks for watching 👍
@eugeneanisko833
@eugeneanisko833 Ай бұрын
Such a beautiful collection. I was sure you were gonna have a Seamaster somewhere there too.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 Ай бұрын
😄 - not in this video but I did actually review it in a later video. You can see it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHLEm2Vuar-ojqM What a stunning watch. 👍
@Stunl3y
@Stunl3y 3 жыл бұрын
Think im going to look to pick up a Christopher Ward , very under rated watch imo
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 3 жыл бұрын
go for it - they really are amazing quality. 👍
@vittoriobiondi4855
@vittoriobiondi4855 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see how after 2 years the situation is completely the opposite.....Longines at 2000€ list price, Christopher Ward is 1250€. And Mido offers you a Chronometer COSC 600m diver for 1590€ (1250€ at the store). So after just two years Longines is the worst buy IMHO and Mido the best one.
@peterfritzphoto
@peterfritzphoto 2 жыл бұрын
This was such a wonderfully useful review. I was going to buy the Longines Hydroconquest tomorrow, but your review convinced me the Steinhart was a better choice, so I've just purchased the Ocean 39 BLACK Ceramic 103-0981. Thank you from Australia. 🙂
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one! Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for watching. 👍
@kaynwells6936
@kaynwells6936 2 жыл бұрын
I agree however I bought the hydroconquest. Looks to me nicer. It’s what counts after all. I’m still jealous though
@peterfritzphoto
@peterfritzphoto 2 жыл бұрын
​@@wristwatchdave422 Thanks, Dave. Sadly, though, my Steinhart ran 5 hours fast per 24 hours from the moment I received it. I demagnetized it five times, but the issue remained. Steinhart's 'customer support' person was incredibly stubborn about wanting me to return it for repair, and that they'd deduct a fee because I'd removed the plastic wrapping. I told them I wanted it replaced, not repaired, and that penalising a customer for unwrapping their watch before they discovered it was faulty was absurd. Their return process was also extremely complex and onerous, so after a week of trying to get them to be more reasonable (and failing in that attempt), I've sent it to a local watchmaker for assessment. After this episode, I cannot recommend Steinhart, and will instead be buying a Davosa or Longines. 😞
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterfritzphoto Oh dear - that's not good at all. They are being very unreasonable. Hope you can get it resolved soon.
@mahendramohan4418
@mahendramohan4418 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing view with all 12 watches in 1 video.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
👍 Thanks for watching!
@loganmaxwell4018
@loganmaxwell4018 3 жыл бұрын
Is that the standard hydroconquest bracelet? The centre links don’t look polished (a good thing) or is it just the camera and light?
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, well spotted - I brushed out the polished look on the centre links - looks so much better in my opinion!
@JuanDominguez-
@JuanDominguez- 2 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts about the new 38mm two tone certina watches? I heard the did some modifications on these new pieces.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
I love the look of that 38mm version - will be getting one soon! Thanks for watching 👍
@danilom3166
@danilom3166 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great review! I have the Ward and a 43mm Aquaracer. I prefer the Ward, it really is an outstanding looking watch. (By the way, you and Daniel Craig sound very much alike)
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments (I'm sure Daniel Craig will be very flattered 😜). You also have great taste in watches!
@davidcarrol110
@davidcarrol110 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously the Swiss icons of Longines and Tag Heuer hold kudos but the Steinhart is exceptional value for money!
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed - thanks for watching 👍
@rema_style
@rema_style 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave. I really appreciate your video. I look for Swiss Diver at this price range. And this video help me ... My peack will be longines ceramic black 41.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Hi - nice choice. The Longines is amazing and looks beautiful. Thanks for watching 👍
@thanawatice777
@thanawatice777 2 жыл бұрын
NIce video ! What would you chose your top three? Mine is 1 Oris Aquis green 2 Longines hydroconquest 2 Steinhart ocean one From the fact that I owned those. I never owned CW before and they are looking so good, how would CW like comparing to my top three?
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
The CW is superior to the Steinhart and is equal to the Longines for overall build quality. The Oris is more refined but then it does cost twice as much!
@randyreynolds1045
@randyreynolds1045 Жыл бұрын
Love the Longines hydroquest
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 Жыл бұрын
Me too! Thanks for watching 👍
@rexmabunga
@rexmabunga Жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciated for the effort in putting this up!
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 Жыл бұрын
👍 Glad you enjoyed it!
@ElcurionExodus
@ElcurionExodus 2 жыл бұрын
Holy! I've got the Tissot Seastar 2000 Powermatic. The Seastar in your Video and the Seastar 2000 are like actual 2000 iterations apart when comes to Looks. Now i know why they chose that Name!
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
😄 yes that's a good point. Thanks for watching 👍
@pamodapiyankara3581
@pamodapiyankara3581 2 ай бұрын
Doxa sub 200 also very high quality and sodiac super sea wolf also very good as well as squale also very gow so u had to add to this compression but sodiac 1695$ but trident pro 1095 $ christopher ward tide also has very good dial
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 ай бұрын
Yes, they're all great too. I also reviewed the Doxa 200 - you can see it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZTFo2mworZlZqc
@borisi6342
@borisi6342 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. I wanted to see something like this.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 11 ай бұрын
👍 Thanks for watching!
@Jcauto-t4r
@Jcauto-t4r 2 жыл бұрын
I own a Tissot Seastar ( newer version that the one you have there in 46mm ) and just ordered a Longines Hydroconquest in 44mm .. 😎
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one! The newer Tissot is a much better looking watch overall. Thanks for watching 👍
@Jcauto-t4r
@Jcauto-t4r 2 жыл бұрын
@@wristwatchdave422 yes it is, I’ve got the blue/green dial and is beautiful..
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jcauto-t4r Nice! 👍
@davemascetti9964
@davemascetti9964 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jcauto-t4r Do you find it to be too large? Considering the Neptunian just for a bit less size (on a 7.5 wrist) but don't know if that's really necessary.
@omuonyotieno
@omuonyotieno 3 жыл бұрын
Hydroconquest for me, in green.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 3 жыл бұрын
👍 Thanks for watching.
@antonhallergren588
@antonhallergren588 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna get that one on rubber and the ocean 39 I think. The new Oris is to expensive but it's fucking amazing, still Tudor is the same price but a bit better
@rbj521
@rbj521 3 жыл бұрын
Longines Hydroconquest wins, the ETA calibre beats the Selita calibre from the Christopher ward
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@antonhallergren588
@antonhallergren588 2 жыл бұрын
I agree the l888 is amazing its a 2892 from the old omega seamaster but on steroids in terms of modification so it's well within cosc without the upcharge of having the cert. May pick one up soon really quite excited tbh that is if I don't just go for the new seamaster.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
@@antonhallergren588 Good comment - thanks for watching 👍
@iluminatisuptempo2358
@iluminatisuptempo2358 2 жыл бұрын
Longines hidroconquest
@CuriusOdus11
@CuriusOdus11 5 ай бұрын
Such a great video. I had been deciding between the Mido and CW and seeing them here, the CW seems to blow it out of the water, though for some reason. there seems to be a huge Mido following/bias in the community.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 5 ай бұрын
👍 Thanks for watching - The Mido is a great watch but the CW is better in so many ways.
@livesinshadow4386
@livesinshadow4386 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing collection.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
👍 Thanks for watching!
@EdgarTheEagle
@EdgarTheEagle 9 ай бұрын
Any comments on the Revue Thommen Dive watch?
@markgasparro
@markgasparro Жыл бұрын
What a great video! Thank you for all your hard work. I just can’t decide between Christopher Ward and Longines. Help lol
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 Жыл бұрын
That is a tough choice! Christopher Ward have one in the sale right now if that helps! - www.christopherward.com/sale/c60-trident-pro-600/S60-38ADA3-S0KK0-TKR.html Thanks for watching 👍
@gokhankayaeeqq7367
@gokhankayaeeqq7367 2 жыл бұрын
would you recommend the longine and tag heure?
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes definitely they are both very good watches. I would say the Longines is a bit more impressive.
@YuriUK
@YuriUK Жыл бұрын
Christopher Ward is winner for me out all your watches, very nice collection my friend! P.S. Certina second place
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 Жыл бұрын
👍 thanks for watching
@user-fc8yb3dw7u
@user-fc8yb3dw7u 2 жыл бұрын
Здраствуйте! По доброму завидую вам ! Надеюсь тоже когда нибудь приобрести хорошие дайверы,но вот только цены кусаются!)))
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
😄 thanks for watching 👍
@grahovljak86
@grahovljak86 2 жыл бұрын
tissot seastar 2000 vs longines hydroconquest?
@orlandogonzalez3939
@orlandogonzalez3939 Жыл бұрын
SUUUUPERB REVIEW MATE 🥂
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 Жыл бұрын
Cheers 👍 Thanks for watching!
@jcummings187
@jcummings187 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought an Edox Neptunian for 700 bucks..
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one - that's a great price. 👍
@TheHoss4145
@TheHoss4145 Жыл бұрын
Seems like you bought everything that you could find on the Grovana shelf?
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 Жыл бұрын
Everything from Grovana? Absolute nonsense. Maybe the Steinhart but not the rest. So, one out of twelve.
@han7902
@han7902 2 жыл бұрын
Glycine combat sub automatic, sometime you will still be able to get one for less than $300 USD.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Yes - incredible value! Thanks for watching 👍
@user-ic5cp3hh1v
@user-ic5cp3hh1v 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, good clip🙏🇹🇭
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 👍
8 ай бұрын
MIDO Ocen Star Beautiful Watch.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 8 ай бұрын
👍 Thanks for watching.
@MarkoMarkovina
@MarkoMarkovina 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! My pick would be Longines... I had 2 Steinharts and sold them after a month cause I was not 100% satisfied with a build quality and lume actually. Not enough layers of superluminova, stiff bezel... I bought Chinese brand San Martin and Ironwatch and I wouldcrecomend those over Steinhart anytime... better build quality, better lume... I never tought I will say that about Chinese watches. Once more, Longines is the one for me but that Christopher Ward is stuning. Cheers
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
👍 Thanks for sharing!
@LG-bq9lm
@LG-bq9lm 2 жыл бұрын
Hi,a quick question, we just received a new 80115 Edox, do you know how to wind the crown and adjust the time? I was not able to wind the crown forward or backwards neither pull out.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Hi - it is a screw down crown so you will need to unscrew it first, then you can pull out and adjust the time and also wind it. If you have already tried unscrewing it without success then the crown must be faulty.
@LG-bq9lm
@LG-bq9lm 2 жыл бұрын
@@wristwatchdave422 thank you, I already adjusted it. It was too tight so I wasn’t sure how should I unscrew it. But later I found a exactly same watch on KZbin and figured out.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@Oeschioeschi
@Oeschioeschi 2 жыл бұрын
Tissot seastar 2000
@manuvns
@manuvns Жыл бұрын
I would get logines or oris they are the best
@splootan
@splootan Жыл бұрын
Edox Neptunian all the way!
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
CW is the clear winner here but I think you robbed Mido :D CW and Mido are my favorites.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 Жыл бұрын
👍 I love Mido watches and the Ocean Star is a wonderful piece - just a little bit bland for me - but the quality is very good.
@dwaynezion47
@dwaynezion47 Жыл бұрын
ORIS AQUIS is best
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 2 жыл бұрын
You made this video too early because now your collection has a glaring omission, the Tissot Seastar 2000 Professional. It's still a great video, I'm not begrudging you because nobody could have known that Tissot would make something that's so disruptive to the industry.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Yes - that's an excellent observation you have made. I cannot argue with that - The Seastar 2000 is a magnificent watch and I want one! Thanks for watching 👍
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 2 жыл бұрын
@@wristwatchdave422 I'm always glad to watch a quality video like this. Your collection is stunning and I congratulate you on it! 😁
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
@@AvroBellow Thank you! 👍
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 2 жыл бұрын
@@wristwatchdave422 You are most welcome Dave. You made a great effort in this video and deserve to be shown our appreciation. 😁
@mmadchef808
@mmadchef808 2 жыл бұрын
What watch is on your wrist?
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
Hi - that's a good question! 👍 The watch on my wrist in this video is the Edox Delfin Fleet - A beautiful vintage style dive watch. You can see it here; kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZSmpo1og6psirc
@saveriodavidemascolo6
@saveriodavidemascolo6 2 жыл бұрын
Edox rules!!!!
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
A very underrated brand! - Thanks for watching 👍
@bryanryan4504
@bryanryan4504 2 жыл бұрын
The gevril is crackin
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
👍 Thanks for watching
@whatever9774
@whatever9774 3 жыл бұрын
build quality 10-10 C ward and ORIS-Longie 9-10 ? Let me bet bro... you come from UK.
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am from the UK but that has nothing to do with the scores. I would score exactly the same if C Ward was a Swiss brand. The brand nationality is totally irrelevant. It seems that you are trying to suggest that I favoured C Ward because it is a British brand. If so, you are very much mistaken. This is not an international competition - it's just an honest comparison of a few watches that I have reviewed. I own all the watches featured and speak from experience. The build quality of the C Ward, in my opinion is slightly better than the Oris & Longines. Why is that so hard to believe? I'm sure if you handled all three you would agree. Thanks for watching. 👍
@sailor123ize
@sailor123ize 3 жыл бұрын
Why not include the Revue Thommen Diver 100M?
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 3 жыл бұрын
That's another great watch but as I explained, it's not feasible to include every good Swiss dive watch under 2k. There must be at least 50! These are all the ones in my current collection. Thanks for watching 👍
@user-oy7dd1qx2f
@user-oy7dd1qx2f 9 ай бұрын
Edox neptunian the best number one Diver
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 9 ай бұрын
👍 it's a fabulous watch.
@dralsanea
@dralsanea 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no …. Mido!!!!!! 😢
@duplicatekeyshop5835
@duplicatekeyshop5835 2 жыл бұрын
Tussore super wahc
@robbiecleighmarks3088
@robbiecleighmarks3088 2 жыл бұрын
Longines all day
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
👍 Thanks for watching
@nachomama55
@nachomama55 2 жыл бұрын
What about Invicta?
@user-tx4wj7qk4t
@user-tx4wj7qk4t 3 ай бұрын
Doxa sub 200 and mido ocean star tribute look better than all of these
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 3 ай бұрын
Yes, they're all great too - pease take a look at this video as those three you mention are all featured! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnrKeoGCl7yIo9U
@user-tx4wj7qk4t
@user-tx4wj7qk4t 3 ай бұрын
@@wristwatchdave422 Thanks!
@user-tx4wj7qk4t
@user-tx4wj7qk4t 3 ай бұрын
@@wristwatchdave422 Have you considered reviewing the doxa sub 200 whitepearl? There aren't many reviews, it's apparently different than the other models in terms of lume and bezel, and has such a different look than every other diver that I figure showing different straps on it could be helpful to show how versatile it is.
@CarlosGambino_22
@CarlosGambino_22 Жыл бұрын
Only one I'd have out of all those shitters is the longines.. I'd bin the rest..
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 Жыл бұрын
What makes you think Longines is not a shitter then?
@jcchoong
@jcchoong 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@hilmidawood5648
@hilmidawood5648 Жыл бұрын
You drove the comparison towards CW. It clear this is a bias video in the favor of CW!!
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 Жыл бұрын
What??!! How do you work that out? I have absolutely no affiliation with CW so have no bias towards them. In my experience of comparing all these watches, it comes out on top when you factor in every criteria. What a ridiculous comment. So, if Longines came out on top, you would say I was biased in favour of that. Or any other brand that happened to come top. Utter nonsense - in any case, unless you have all these watches yourself to compare, how can you possibly pass judgement??
@serafinmendoza6567
@serafinmendoza6567 2 жыл бұрын
Victorinox inox can beat any of those watches!! Period!
@wristwatchdave422
@wristwatchdave422 2 жыл бұрын
The Inox is an awesome watch but the only version that comes close is the INOX Professional Diver with the proper diving bezel. However, as far I know the Professional diver is only available with a quartz movement and it lacks in certain other areas compared to a lot of the watches in this video. Thanks for watching.
@bad41137
@bad41137 Жыл бұрын
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