You would be better off pouring with the tongs straight out of the furnace. You have less than 10 seconds to 'finish' the pour from the time you shut off the propane, the melt will cool immediately down below pouring temp if you wait any longer - you also have that massive cone mold which is cold and pulls all the heat out of the melt. Try setting the cone mold on top of the furnace for 30 min to preheat it. Also put your crucible back in the furnace and close the lid so both the furnace and crucible can slow cool - rapid cool of either is what destroys them. Soda ash is also extremely corrosive to crucibles, so go light on SA and heavier on the borax. You're doing great! Happy to see your making progress :)
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips Gold Miner! I will definitely try to do the pour a bit quicker and see if there is any difference. Sounds like you've don a bit of smelting. On the second pour, the BIG button turned out to be lead n gold on the bottom and iron n gold lightly coated in lead on the top. The iron cap has gold in it and seems to be a bit of a "refractory" possibly from the addition of some graphite from the crucible. Any idea on how to go about smelting that?
@AUMINER13 жыл бұрын
@@ColoradoGoldCamp It's best to heat your furnace up to temp first, then add the crucible, preserving the graphite crucible. You will prob be better off with some greenAP cheapy crucibles if you are going to be using soda ash. Borax is your friend ("Anhydrous" borax over the store bought water laden borax)
@AUMINER13 жыл бұрын
@@ColoradoGoldCamp You likely have several issues going on in your charge, one is the sulfide amount, the other is iron content. Pre-roasting helps off gas the sulfer, and you will need less iron in the charge then, or if you have a lot of iron in the mix from your pulverizing machine, that can be removed with a magnet. It's a fine balance iron/sulfer. It's better to pull the iron with a magnet and add a steel rod into the top of the crucible that way the smelt will only consume what it needs, nothing more so it's self regulating. Too much soda ash can also cause the lead to suspend. You might want to add some glass ( silica ). You saw the difference of the slag from your first to your second pours, so you have a good eye. Smelt fluxes recipes are not easy, every ore is different, even in the same sample vein, but you have obviously done a lot of research as you are doing way better than most this early on.
@jdeluisa2 жыл бұрын
What flux are you using?
@74KU Жыл бұрын
@@AUMINER1 I just commented about a pre-roast, A good idea for sure how about changing out some of that SA for Potassium Nitrate?
@PioneerPauly3 жыл бұрын
Cool video! I got a ton of stuff to melt I should make a video 🤔
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
You should do it Paul! Melting rocks is almost as fun as blowing them up!!
@GramCanyonSam3 жыл бұрын
Make a king size candy bat bar !
@rastamanralph66703 жыл бұрын
Howdy fella👍👊😉
@BusterB23983 жыл бұрын
Yessss make the video !
@mentalmetalist3 жыл бұрын
I’d watch you melt some placer
@arnedalbakk6315 Жыл бұрын
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@tonybrabender59073 жыл бұрын
Wow what a cool process thanks for sharing nice to see your hard at it!!
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tony! It's wild stuff indeed. Crushing, digging, melting, dreaming. GOLD, I love it!
@eby61143 жыл бұрын
Your doing great. You might consider using a different pair of pouring tongs. Those look quite difficult to flip which is the last thing you want around dangerous temperaturea, cheers
@goosehunter40253 жыл бұрын
Cool video! I work in a machine shop but we also pour all of our parts that we machine. I don’t know if you did this off-camera but it might help you if you put your cone mold on top of the furnace and get it good and hot right before you pour also if the cold mold is too cold you could have a explosion from the different temperatures they are not fun! In the first pour it looked like you didn’t quite have the material hot enough but it’s kind of hard tell. I don’t know if I would really be any help with this kind of foundry work but I do live in Colorado if you ever need help.
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Cool Stuff, sounds like you do interesting work Lmeyette! At times it can be difficult to tell when the melt and reactions is completely done. The first one cooked for 54 min and appeared to be done. Once, poured....clearly not. That pour also resulted in a matte throughout the slag but did yield a decent gold bead. I did semi preheat the mold but it likely needs more, for that, I'm gonna need thicker gloves ;)
@randydiver30763 жыл бұрын
Get yourself a surplus fire approach suit. It looks like a silver suit with a gold face shield. It will make pouring gold so much more comfortable. You won’t catch on fire. I used them when I used to pour gold bars.
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Definitely worth looking into. That heat is no joke, one slip could be disastrous! When it's cooler, I wear a Nomex jacket.
@AUMINER13 жыл бұрын
finally we get to see some shinyG :)
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Yea buddy!
@videolabguy3 жыл бұрын
He who "smelted" it, "dealted" it! (As bad puns go, I think this was golden.)
@diggin30973 жыл бұрын
Ha some of the sulphides mite smell like fart lol
@GSProspecting3 жыл бұрын
Great work fam. Keep the dream alive fam. Gold squad out!!!
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Dig, Eat, Sleep N Dream Gold Baby!
@GramCanyonSam3 жыл бұрын
This flick did the trick ! Gold tricks are my favorite! Fun vid bud
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Hehe, yes they are Adam! Voila!!! Magic!
@diggin30973 жыл бұрын
Super cool dude thanks for showing the process looks kinda scary
@rkw31183 жыл бұрын
Always, always, always, wear your eye protection!!! 🤠
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Absoultely Ronald! I wear UV eye protection🙌
@thomasklugh43453 жыл бұрын
So, you mean mining is NOT like in "Treasure of Sierra Madre"? 😳
@louiscaraballo6786 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t you preheat your mold that way the dense gold at the bottom of crucible gets enough time to settle at bottom evenly? Most you tubers advice is to preheat molds.
@ColoradoGoldCamp Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Louis. I preheat the mold on top of the furnace.
@SCSColoradoable3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know much about this stuff that’s why it was so interesting to watch. I do know fumes are dangerous so I worry that you were downwind as you poured. I guess once you start you can’t easily move so if the wind changes it puts you in a precarious position. Maybe you should wear a respirator to be safe. Maybe I’m worried for no reason...I tend to be overly safe or worried about safety sometimes. Anyway, that is quite the process. You have all this fancy stuff to melt the metal...how did the old timers do it?
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks SCS. The use of a high quality respirator with the proper cartridges is Extremely important! I do use one :) The process is fascinating and ever evolving as all rock types are different.
@rastamanralph66703 жыл бұрын
Love a good cliffhanger😂 That looks like my devil forge. Is that what it is?
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Ya maaan, that is the Devil Forge. It is the version with 1" kaowool, 1" refractory. Really well made and high quality parts compared to others I have seen. Smelting with flux makes a quick mess of a nice clean furnace though ;)
@ANDYTHRAXX3 жыл бұрын
I need to get a kiln and learn how to do this, I can not wait to melt some gold and pour a big bar or try casting something for jewelry. Great video!!! it blew my mind to see the Cupel absorbing the lead, soooo cool.
@GramCanyonSam3 жыл бұрын
Long before I started placer mining I was milking and smelting gold & silver ore that is a hoot! You definitely should try it out heck make yourself a impact mill & a kiln "fairly easy" and I know for a fact you have refractory ore all over your area that would yield gold after the process.
@ANDYTHRAXX3 жыл бұрын
@@GramCanyonSam totally! That’s awesome man, I want a whole mini portable hard rock setup lol
@GramCanyonSam3 жыл бұрын
@@ANDYTHRAXX pm me on Facebook if you want a easy way to build one
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Ooooh, it's so wild Andy you would love it! Look into cuttlebone casting as an easy cool n fun way to make some crude jewelry or custom coins. Melting straight gold is easier and cheaper to get started with, let me know when you pour your first 10oz bar!! Cheers Mate!
@ANDYTHRAXX3 жыл бұрын
@@ColoradoGoldCamp awesome thanks I will check them out.
@itstheadventureimtalkingab40163 жыл бұрын
Well, looks like I’m buying a furnace
@trialbyfire25823 жыл бұрын
What did the parting reveal , you only went to precious dore and color means nothing till the cornet. What was the final cornet weight. Your 100 plus grams is industrials and everything else that can be reduced.
@Randy-ic9py6 ай бұрын
Can you do a video showing the ingredients/fluxs you use and quantity for smelting gold from black sand cons Thanks
@PartridgeFamilyProspecting3 жыл бұрын
Man I'm loving your vids!! Although I was so ready to see the second one!! Lol my jaw dropped at the end. Hoping its coming soon! Thank you for showing us the process!
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support PFP! The BIG button is coming soon, cheers!!
@MrLemaire12 жыл бұрын
@@ColoradoGoldCamp 3 months later… still patiently waiting for part 2… 🧐😋
@ricksimpson80482 жыл бұрын
Me too
@LukeS-ul6zo Жыл бұрын
Yeah where is the big button??
@adebiyi1006 ай бұрын
Thank you so much,pls can we smelt goldpin dust with soda arch and borax pls Sir give me the idear.
@greedygringoprospecting69413 жыл бұрын
mercury. then some nitric acid to get rid of the mercury. pure gold. watch. two toes. northern california. have a good day.
@khmernewkh-bk3xv Жыл бұрын
May you tell me and how much amount of borax and soda ash for 500 grams of sulphide, Sir
@s.d.iprospecting4359 Жыл бұрын
Did u make that cone mold,i like how easy the slag button comes out.
@ColoradoGoldCamp Жыл бұрын
I bought this one and it was definitely worth it.
@riprip32913 жыл бұрын
Great video
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rip!
@greedygringoprospecting69413 жыл бұрын
bust up the crucible and cupel each piece with some base metal. possible.
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Definitely possible!
@CashCoinTurningSRP3 жыл бұрын
Perfect working hot . I should try to make more videos
@goldandsilverminingintheci89422 жыл бұрын
Nice! I tried cupeling some karat gold jewelry. It didn't work out. I don't think my kiln got hot enough. I'll give it another go.
@jamesgibson9958 Жыл бұрын
Great videos 👍🏼
@jeffersonstategold83493 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@74KU Жыл бұрын
Need a little potassium nitrate or similar to eat up those oxides a bit better. A pre roast may even help a bit? Should leave that iron bar in a bit longer too would help some. You can lose small (and not so small) BBs into that matt layer and its just a pain to bust it up and fish through it or crush and smelt it again.
@goldhunterexploration-shei58733 жыл бұрын
awesome
@diggindiggenit65403 жыл бұрын
Wow so cool, I will take a guess on that second button and say 8.45 grams of shinny:)
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
I'll take that Dig! I will be working on it here in the next day or two.
@recuptou64333 жыл бұрын
Hi sir ! Nice video . Where did you buy your cône mold ? Please share the info
@randydiver30763 жыл бұрын
Also preheat your button mold before you pour your melt into it.
@susieswinney85823 жыл бұрын
Your pulling metal that had absorbed in the graphite thats where it materialized its why you alway process your crucibles after there done
@SilverScorpion3 жыл бұрын
Super video! New here. You are added. I melt metals. I haven't started refining yet. But it is in the plans!
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Welcome SS, melting metal is great fun! Just be careful, fluxes and smelting can quickly and easily wreak havoc on your furnace.
@SilverScorpion3 жыл бұрын
I will definitely keep that in mind. Might refine the chemical way
@cluelessprospectors87113 жыл бұрын
Awesome man!! Maybe one day I can collect enough to make a heck of a bead. We will be out your way this next week making a couple videos in Blackhawk and then in the desert out west wish us luck
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the mountains n heavy pans!!
@jrpz4429 ай бұрын
What is the ratio of flux to cons?
@curbyourshi10563 жыл бұрын
Are you supposed to stir the contents of the crucible? I've never seen it done before and assume the contents are supposed to separate into layers before the pour.
@TheEzlau3 жыл бұрын
No. Maybe for small assays it's ok. But no, don't stir.
@upnorthgold26323 жыл бұрын
Awesome video I wonder how much gold you’ll get out of the second one
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Time n heat will tell!
@LukeS-ul6zo Жыл бұрын
Soooo??!!
@coryenglish43922 жыл бұрын
Did he ever do the second one?
@PBRJOHN6843 жыл бұрын
I live in the UK where can I get a cone mould like that?
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Legend Mine Supply
@karimrazak37983 жыл бұрын
What is the material that was placed with the soil?
@SaraJean853 жыл бұрын
Borax is the key and a gas mask.. the soda ash will eat up ur stuff
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right Sara!
@طلالعبدالوهابالقادري3 жыл бұрын
الله يهدي قلبك للاسلام لانك علمتنا الكثير عبر هذي القناه وانا اتابعك الف شكر لله ولك
@fun_and_profit2 жыл бұрын
So where's the 2nd one?
@MegaSilverStacker3 жыл бұрын
That's a nice button of shiny ohh buddy I want to play☺🤙
@DryLakeMiningCo493 жыл бұрын
Where'd u find the big cone mold?
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Legend Mine Supply
@DryLakeMiningCo493 жыл бұрын
Thanks r they online?
@captnron593 жыл бұрын
Sux when it's already hot outside.
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Heheh, sure does Ron! Smelting is about as roasty toasty as it gets!
@xenaguy013 жыл бұрын
Your first pour might have not been quite up to heat. Also, preheat the cone mold.
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, thanks Xe!
@donizetecorreiadepaiva5616 Жыл бұрын
Boa noite qual e a lista de material quanto de borax quanto de chapman's
@donizetecorreiadepaiva5616 Жыл бұрын
Vc usou na mistura da receita quanto de borax quanto de chapman's ou usou outro ingrediente na mistura
@AlchemyOfTheFourthKind20 күн бұрын
What is going on. I get melting metal but like whaat
@patrickjobling86763 жыл бұрын
How did ya smelt ..smelt good .. did singe a coupla nasal hairs .. burrt you.ll get that ..😁pip pips
@sudarsonosono24743 жыл бұрын
Cara membuat alat pembakaran nya..atau harga alat pembakaran nya..
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
A lil arm hair singe is to be expected ;)
@vadenk4433 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever cupel that giant button?
@michschep76013 жыл бұрын
Little mire borax? Thin the mix an let the gold settle better
@joel3833 жыл бұрын
…it wasn’t done. It was still boiling away,
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Correct Joel. It had settled down dramatically at 54 min and I jumped the gun a bit on the first one.
@themacz16713 жыл бұрын
💪😎👍sweet
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
🙌
@triac7773 жыл бұрын
Nice gold. What temperature do you run your cupellation oven at?
@TheEzlau3 жыл бұрын
900c - 1000c
@6Diego1Diego93 жыл бұрын
do you do this so you don't have to sit in an office answering to a manager? why do you do this over a regular job?
@SCSColoradoable3 жыл бұрын
Interesting question...why do you ask?
@6Diego1Diego93 жыл бұрын
@@SCSColoradoable Not sure, maybe I'm searching for an alternative lifestyle in my own life. 🙂
@shortyspice96732 жыл бұрын
Connection with the earth and the components that make it up. Smelting seems to invoke ancient instincts that fullfil long ago felt pleasure. Lol make sure she's good and hot before pour. Stirring and drossing seem to interrupt metal sinking process in my experience but hey your rockin here. Thank you for your humility and knowledge. I hope you get more gold in your future. ☺️
@thomasklugh43453 жыл бұрын
I'm in compete ignorance here. So, are you saying that out of 500 grams of raw ore, you netted 246 grams of pure gold? 😳
@ivsongold3223 жыл бұрын
👍🏾👍🏾
@mitchdickson254 Жыл бұрын
Your skatting uphill young man ;) While fire assays work, way too much effort and energy to pay. There is a reason the oldtimers went strait out of the stamp mills into quicksilver ;) Same reason if they ran into too many sulphides, they hunted better rock ;) Propane, cupels, Graphite, and time exceeds the extra bit of gold you gained with those sulphides. Trade that junk for a good tumbler, a bottle of mercury, and a retort or a bit of nitric to reclaim your mercury. It is also far more dangerous than amalgumation!! One drop of sweat hits that, you got an explosion and 2000 degree metal goes all the way to the bone!!!
@superspider69683 жыл бұрын
240g lead button mane.
@robertjeffery32373 жыл бұрын
more borax!
@ColoradoGoldCamp3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Some more silica would help as well.
@manofagoodwill42673 жыл бұрын
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