HUGE DIFFERENCE!!! Comparing CGC to PSA Prices for Scarlet and Violet 151!

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Danny Phantump

Danny Phantump

6 ай бұрын

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One of the questions that I see asked a lot in the Pokemon Community is - "Where Should I Grade my Pokemon Cards?"
The honest answer is a bit more complicated. There are several great features about the grading companies out there, and some not so great features. Ultimately, the decision lies within you and should be made based off of what your collection goals are and what you are trying to obtain. Are you trying to resell Pokemon Cards, or collect and hold for the long term? Does Value, grading price, turn times play an important factor in your decision making process? These questions are just a few of what should be considered when making a decision.
One thing is for certain, when it comes to Pokemon 151 or Scarlet and Violet 151 in English, this decision could mean the difference in hundreds of dollars in value. I was shocked when I saw the vast difference between the two companies when it comes to grading. Did these numbers surprise you as well? Let's talk about it!
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@2girls_1up
@2girls_1up 6 ай бұрын
My main concern with PSA is the issue of them messing up their grades (higher than deserved) and damaging cards submitted for grading. They don't even answer submitters' concerns or refund for damaging people's cards when it's clear they damaged thrm. PSA is getting away by being too big and people not accepting anything else.
@ColtCollectibles
@ColtCollectibles 6 ай бұрын
Same. This is exactly why I went with CGC
@luukvanderwijk3672
@luukvanderwijk3672 6 ай бұрын
I recently got refunded by psa die to damaging the card. It than got an "Authentic" slab (either that or getting the card back raw) and after I inspecties the card it appeared to have zero damage! 😅
@trentonziegler
@trentonziegler 6 ай бұрын
PSA bent me over on submission I got a couple months ago and gave me extremely low grades on Mint condition cards. But I agree they do give higher grades than deserved on a lot of cards as well
@AKcam7
@AKcam7 6 ай бұрын
There will never be CGC Perfect 10's again. They stopped doing perfect 10's before 151 came out.
@Darko0699
@Darko0699 4 ай бұрын
I got 2 lol
@naturesepyon
@naturesepyon 6 ай бұрын
I think you'll find CGC Pristine 10 sell for more then a PSA 10 on average. PSA is the legacy company therefore the defactco industry standard and for many the standard for their collection uniformity. However I believe this is slowly changing for Pokemon cards, as CGC is more affordable and has the possibility of a Pristine 10, which typically have a higher monetary return than Gem Mint 10. Also PSA has more lawsuits against them from clients/ customers than CGC, which to my knowledge currently doesnt have any. Which may also just be a byproduct of having a larger customer base. Most newer collectors are building their collection uniformity around CGC and in perhaps 10-15 years from now if this trend continues, it could be the defacto standard for Pokemon collectors collection uniformity, and continue perpetually until it eclipses PSA. CGC will need to start grading packs, sealed items, and coins if they really want to draw in the uniformity crowd. Right now they grade a few things that PSA doesnt like certain types of error cards. Which for anyone looking to have their vintage error cards labeled, CGC becomes the defacto grading company for any collector looking for uniformity.
@Phlegm187
@Phlegm187 6 ай бұрын
Haven't been feeling PSA lately. Been getting 10's that I can tell shouldn't be with obvious print lines. Then I'll get back a 6 that looks like it should be a 10. I just really have no idea what they are doing anymore.
@user-om4nk6ui2s
@user-om4nk6ui2s 6 ай бұрын
Agreed. I just bought a 9 Baxcalibur Alt, and the centering is horrific. I think the grader must have been drunk or blindfolded
@Rub3nAlexander
@Rub3nAlexander 6 ай бұрын
I think CGC is the future.
@Phlegm187
@Phlegm187 6 ай бұрын
@@Rub3nAlexander nah CGC’s a scam. After seeing them give Illustrator cards 10’s that are obviously 8’s just because someone is internet famous and can help them by leeching off their fame is bullshit. Ain’t no way me or you are getting a 10 on a card with two busted up corners.
@Rub3nAlexander
@Rub3nAlexander 6 ай бұрын
@@Phlegm187 So what, who's to say PSA wouldn't do the same. CGC seems to me to be the way better choice right now.
@hulkingmass
@hulkingmass 5 ай бұрын
@@Phlegm187 literally describing the experience of zooming in on PSA 10 scans. Flip a coin, could be perfect could be absolute garbage.
@Methyl_The_Sneasel
@Methyl_The_Sneasel 6 ай бұрын
I don't really care about grading for flipping because I don't do that sort of thing, and I prefer CGC slabs over PSA, they feel a lot better in hand. Also, the reason there's no perfect 10 SIR Charizards is because they don't do that score anymore, they don't do "Perfect" 10's anymore, the highest is Pristine 10.
@Rub3nAlexander
@Rub3nAlexander 6 ай бұрын
Faster turnover, better reputation, cheaper grading and now the best slab in the business. I have a hard time seeing how CGC wouldn't take considerable market share from PSA in the coming years.
6 ай бұрын
If you think its a 10 buy the slab not the company certain cards just look better in certain slabs ie* pop out/meld/blends with👏
@nikeswoosh7575
@nikeswoosh7575 6 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@Rafpokmn58
@Rafpokmn58 6 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Swolechu
@Swolechu 6 ай бұрын
Tell em boss
@Chango308
@Chango308 6 ай бұрын
Would have liked to see comparison of only CGC Pristine 10 to PSA 10. Black labels seem to be the only thing making Beckett prices different, since they go for a lot higher prices.
@themochimaniac
@themochimaniac 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid, very informative! I've never gotten cards graded before but seems that PSA is the way to go for resale and CGC for personal collection. I'm not into slabs myself but I guess getting duplicate cards graded and then sold is the best option to flip them. I have heard a lot about PSA damaging cards so that worries me but I guess it's all a risk?
@Lakupia
@Lakupia 6 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas!! 🎉 and happy holidays I think grading helps to evaluate certain cards, to have these card evolve, something’s I think that I might need do my 151 set but idk yet
@richienagy8173
@richienagy8173 6 ай бұрын
Hey Danny good vid. Like the guy below mentioned, the pristine 10 is the new perfect 10 for cgc so those will often be worth more than psa 10s
@SithCommando236
@SithCommando236 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting and insightful! I recently graded several SwSh era alt art cards and some vintage with CGC, so I wonder how those stack up against the same cards with PSA.
@Bahamut_Mega
@Bahamut_Mega 6 ай бұрын
Would really like to see a video going over what the process is like as well as a cost breakdown for each of the big 3 grading companies.
@cruxfeint614
@cruxfeint614 6 ай бұрын
I like these grading company comparison videos a lot they are very educational. Could you do one with Beckett also? I’m just very interested in the differences between all 3 together. Great video Danny!
@ELfrancobar
@ELfrancobar 6 ай бұрын
If you have internet, you also can do it for yourself
@goodie7785
@goodie7785 6 ай бұрын
Such a good guy Danny. A man of the people. Looking out others would not. Big respect!
@Rasulkarteron
@Rasulkarteron 6 ай бұрын
So what’s your thoughts on the 2 new Japanese sets coming in January? Wild Force and Cyber Judge. I ask cause I found an insane deal on preorder. Got a case of booster boxes of each for $40 a box ($400 per case). You think this was a bad investment?
@smellyducky6471
@smellyducky6471 6 ай бұрын
Great content, always good to know the difference in both values. Also, they do not make perfect 10's any more after the new CGC update. Only Pristine + Gem Mint.
@trentonziegler
@trentonziegler 6 ай бұрын
You beat me too it haha
@davidgoodall4161
@davidgoodall4161 6 ай бұрын
Hey bro loved just loved chilling watching this content. I still haven't graded anything yet I'm getting a small bundle together over time so I can do them all at once to save some coin! Can't wait to see what happens when I send them off . I might take you suggestion and try the three big companies first.
@TheFriskySquid
@TheFriskySquid 6 ай бұрын
Great video Danny but I would be weary of posting buy it now listings around Christmas and using that as a price guideline. People wayyy overpay on buy it now for Christmas shopping. Plus people get confused with CGC cards about Pristine/Gem Mint so I am sure some people are accidentally paying Pristine price for Gem Mint. (lots of people that don't usually buy cards, especially graded cards, buy around Christmas for gifts so people end up paying more than stuff is worth).
@robertbushjr5947
@robertbushjr5947 6 ай бұрын
I really like the way becket slabs over psa and cgc but all three have ups and downs to them
@mvbrando88
@mvbrando88 6 ай бұрын
Getting ready to submit my first ever PSA submission. My expectations are low after seeing some recent 151 returns by various streamers, but have some Japanese 151 that should be easy 10s I hope.
@MrTacogood
@MrTacogood 6 ай бұрын
Thanks danny!!! I sent you a DM in discord but summery is Thanks for everything I'm leaving the hobby but have truly appreciated all you do
@michaelkrynski7793
@michaelkrynski7793 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for always being yourself! Have a wonderful New Year everyone :)
@ivanvargas2425
@ivanvargas2425 6 ай бұрын
Really happy to hear that you’re helping the kid in need. I don’t know them but I really appreciate you for this.
@elexclaudlee
@elexclaudlee 6 ай бұрын
great timing for the video. Looking to get some of my cards graded and wondering which company to go with.
@DeeMonsters
@DeeMonsters 6 ай бұрын
Your amazing guy man love your insite on everything and keeping the community aware of everything it's amazing to see thank you so much 😊
@Mikeyelbird11
@Mikeyelbird11 6 ай бұрын
I’ve been trying to get every sword and shield chase in a PSA 10, a bit over half way done!
@TurboFingerz
@TurboFingerz 6 ай бұрын
I pulled an alt art Latios & Latias back when they were coming out and realizing what I have am now scared to get it graded with the fear of them damaging the card or having it happen in transit.
@AlltheAces101
@AlltheAces101 6 ай бұрын
I like BGS slabs the most but for certain cards I do PSA just to get that 10 instead of 9.5
@Sokioku
@Sokioku 6 ай бұрын
I've been considering sending some of my older cards to get graded but worry they may get lost or damaged in shipping. Especially when some cards could potentially be worth up to $70,000.
@tonycabral86
@tonycabral86 6 ай бұрын
that's when you make a trip to them and get it done in person. For $70K, that should be your only option.
@brucenelson7637
@brucenelson7637 6 ай бұрын
I haven't got any cards graded yet. If i ever do, it'll probably be the og cards, once i ever find them in the list void of my attic😅. Great video, keep it up.
@j0hn96
@j0hn96 6 ай бұрын
you think the jpn or eng ones are going to worth more in the future?
@wheres_your_drip773
@wheres_your_drip773 6 ай бұрын
The only issue that has stopped me from grading with the big three grading companies come’s down to shipping the card itself. I’ve never done it before tbh and it seems very intimidating. Also the wait time LAST i checked was egregious.
@ColtCollectibles
@ColtCollectibles 6 ай бұрын
I had the same barrier and once I did it a few times felt super comfortable. Just have to get over that initial hurdle!
@samersalama6275
@samersalama6275 6 ай бұрын
Another amazing video. I always worry grading with cgc due to the lower value. I don’t agree that there should be a difference in pay but I guess that’s how things are. It seems like cgc has better cases, more durable and they have iv protection. PSA does not have the UV protection. I wonder if anyone thought of purchasing gem mint 10s and regrading them with PSA to get a higher valued gem mint 10 with PSA. I graded my first big pull out of Pokémon cards and my Charizard SIR came back as a gem mint 10🎉🎉🎉.
@daviddangtcg
@daviddangtcg 6 ай бұрын
Loving that intro clip & improving the production value!
@Olivia_thegreat
@Olivia_thegreat 6 ай бұрын
I personally don’t grade often but I do like the look of the black and gold pristine Cgc
@darealcammyg2975
@darealcammyg2975 6 ай бұрын
stings a bit seeing the value of my collection go down but its also nice as i can buy singles im missing, not sure how to feel lmao
@NatesFCG
@NatesFCG 6 ай бұрын
You should compare quality of the slabs between them and SGC and ucz slabs
@brianpower3954
@brianpower3954 6 ай бұрын
Let’s gooo!!! Missed my chance to get your latest packs sold out SO FAST!!!
@mikecheckx1212
@mikecheckx1212 6 ай бұрын
The new cgc slabs no longer do perfect 10s, that was only for the old lables, they only keep that on the pop reports for the prior perfect 10s.
@daviddangtcg
@daviddangtcg 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for giving back and helping the Phan Clan community!
@TheCorant
@TheCorant 6 ай бұрын
Never had a card graded but im considering getting a girantina v graded from crown zenith, these kinds of videos are great for my needs
@GottaBeMurph-V2
@GottaBeMurph-V2 6 ай бұрын
2024 let’s get it! Thank you for making your videos throughout the year. Just trynna complete master set is super time consuming, your passion, along w/ some of the other KZbinrs, for the tcg always help me stay motivated.
@TheKanick88
@TheKanick88 6 ай бұрын
Good luck to everyone watching Danny’s vids‼️ And congrats to the winner on December 31‼️
@seithansrisabai8734
@seithansrisabai8734 6 ай бұрын
I have yet to submit cards for grading cause I’m skeptical about it lol
@SenninNaru1
@SenninNaru1 6 ай бұрын
Appreciate you giving back to the community!
@Cicri
@Cicri 6 ай бұрын
I recently submitted my 151 cards for grading, got all the starter alternates and their evolutions including the Charizard (why is Charizard in such high demand?), never sent cards in to be graded before and haven't been collecting since basically 1999. I went with PSA simply because it's "standard" or at least it's really all I saw. At first I was thinking I'd only get one or two 10s out of this, but now after a bit more research with PSA's current grading practices I'm thinking most of them will come back 10s. I'll know sometime next year whenever they finish up I guess!
@Shartizard87
@Shartizard87 6 ай бұрын
Love the videos . Like how knowledgeable you are . I'm fairly new just started in June again since I was a kid .
@Sawce209
@Sawce209 6 ай бұрын
I’ve been thinking about using CGC haven’t been able to pull the trigger yet.
@kevinmottershaw5363
@kevinmottershaw5363 6 ай бұрын
I have many good cards which I could grade but never have as it makes not much difference if its not in the mind to sell later I think & good for you Danny nice gestures.
@angel1735
@angel1735 6 ай бұрын
I really like the look of the pristine 10 with cgc
@qtn88
@qtn88 6 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
@tripwheelerton2417
@tripwheelerton2417 6 ай бұрын
When my first son started playing he dreamed of getting any slab but they weren’t very easy to get. Fast forward to this year when my youngest start this game, everything has changed. He has a CGC japanese 10 Bromblin and we got it for $20 because it was an unpopular character. There are only 158 in the CGC system. Can’t wait until he finds out they don’t do tens anymore. As an 80’s kid PSA was the only thing around.
@Getshorty52
@Getshorty52 6 ай бұрын
Let's go Danny like the packs love to have them One is in a lifetime opportunity for some as such as I but thank you for giving someone in the community that chance of honestly opening up some vintage packs.
@bbq1040
@bbq1040 6 ай бұрын
I've watched a lot of videos about people grading their cards with PSA and from what I can tell they are all over the place with grading. They are the standard so I think they were getting away with it but with more videos about the inconsistency it leaves room for someone else like cgc to take over as the standard.
@dustintheturkey.irelandsno6464
@dustintheturkey.irelandsno6464 6 ай бұрын
Could you buy CGC 10s and crack them resubmit to PSA and get a 10? Then resell them as PSA 10s
@hulkingmass
@hulkingmass 5 ай бұрын
yes. with an extremely high success rate.
@POKEHMONGTHOR
@POKEHMONGTHOR Ай бұрын
​@@hulkingmassdoubt it. Cgc even softer now
@evanspierre9194
@evanspierre9194 6 ай бұрын
This should be a good video. Always interested to see which grading company everyone likes to use any why.
@XxSylasxX
@XxSylasxX Ай бұрын
I sent 26 CGC GM 10 slabs to PSA for a crossover and only 2 got rejected for the crossover. I sent 12 PSA 10 slabs to CGC (my personal collection it CGC and BGS only) and only TWO SLABS made the cut. Speaks volumes about how accurate the grades actually are.
@Snorlax8801
@Snorlax8801 6 ай бұрын
I just got a cgc 10 on my golden charizard from obsidian flames just a few days ago
@Sonray61
@Sonray61 6 ай бұрын
Wow! I had no idea! Thanks for the content!
@ryansakuma635
@ryansakuma635 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info and happy new year!
@PokeDaD88
@PokeDaD88 6 ай бұрын
Also CGC no longer does the Perfect10. Since they switched labels
@atrfan666
@atrfan666 6 ай бұрын
How do we feel about SGC? I’ve gotten my cards graded with them, and I like them. No hassle, up charge or worry they will damage my cards. I was looking to sell a couple of them not too long ago but no one will take them. They’d rather have PSA. I don’t really get a straight answer on why SGC is so hated and considered “worthless”. It’s the exact same card just in a different case. I understand SGC isn’t reputable with Pokemon, but I feel like a grade is a grade, right?
@christopher2999
@christopher2999 6 ай бұрын
PSA being hit and miss as been bittersweet for me…have had perfect cards come back as 9’s, and a few off centred cards (but big chases) come back 10s. Still conflicted haha
@jj515789
@jj515789 6 ай бұрын
Always buy the card not the slab, take a look at the high res scans or ask for additional pics. There plenty of misgraded stinkers out there and its still the same card no matter what slab its in.
@durtnasty32
@durtnasty32 6 ай бұрын
So I am sending my first cards out to grading this week great vidoe
@ericstockman662
@ericstockman662 6 ай бұрын
I mean what do you expect? PSA is the market leader currently, but the tide is changing direction. I personally think PSA is meh, their slabs are stupid cheap feeling, and worse yet they have zero UV protection. Isn't preservation the point of encapsulation? PSA also has way longer lead times, and it costs more. I personally have PSA and CGC slabs, but for my own grading I use CGC exclusively for now. Also CGC 10 Pristine trumps PSA all day long. Perfect 10s in CGC no longer exist. Pristine 10 is the highest it goes since the new grading scale.
@tony21084
@tony21084 2 ай бұрын
UV protection?🤦🏻‍♂️😂😂
@Harmonik19
@Harmonik19 6 ай бұрын
I wish PSA would be more transparent with their grades. I know they don’t offer subgrabes but knowing what reasons a card came back with a lower grade would be nice. You often see a batch submission to PSA come back with mostly 8-10 grades and a random 5 or 6 that appears to have no real significant flaws.
@rosskilley1790
@rosskilley1790 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad you made this video bcs i was debating who to grade with
@Sinapz218
@Sinapz218 6 ай бұрын
I cracked out all my CGC slabs after I realized they are difficult to sell and don't actually increase the value of your cards. I regraded with PSA/BGS and my cards became much more valuable. CGC is a huge waste of money and the way they run their company is questionable.
@gaussiancannonoperator5930
@gaussiancannonoperator5930 6 ай бұрын
Love your vids, Danny. They’re great to watch while I’m getting ready for work haha.
@johnpangilinan964
@johnpangilinan964 6 ай бұрын
Extremely admirable for your help for unfortunate people. Bless you
@da3z_56
@da3z_56 6 ай бұрын
Started collecting psa slabs this year, good to be back in the hobby since 151 came out
@murrum3890
@murrum3890 6 ай бұрын
My son and I have never graded a card before but would like to in the future. This is really helpful information. Thank you!
@barbarahouston6127
@barbarahouston6127 6 ай бұрын
Hope you had a great Christmas celebration! Thank you for you generosity
@belacboy
@belacboy 6 ай бұрын
That venusaur ex $190.50 was my listing 😊. Nice
@kevinhunen9870
@kevinhunen9870 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Love openings, but I also appreciate the videos full of information. Also, you’re so kind.
@Ajaxx47
@Ajaxx47 6 ай бұрын
Brother that’s an intense giveaway…. my lord. You are next level for this and whoever when’s congrats please consider keeping some sealed!! God bless all of you and have a happy new year 💜
@pokemontvunlimited7246
@pokemontvunlimited7246 6 ай бұрын
Happy New Year everyone
@CryptidKeeperTCG
@CryptidKeeperTCG 6 ай бұрын
I’ll buy PSA or CGC. Doesn’t make a difference to me, whatever’s cheaper. When grading my personal cards, I use AGS. Their service is next level and I trust the grades
@StoverCollects_TCG
@StoverCollects_TCG 6 ай бұрын
Also I believe CGC got rid of their Perfect 10's when they made the change to having the Pristine 10 label.
@Doors067
@Doors067 6 ай бұрын
I use sgc i like the cases and they will have continued growth. I like having my cards back in 3 days instead of 30
@poppopofpop147
@poppopofpop147 6 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to know the percentage of 10s of all cards graded
@andychen111
@andychen111 6 ай бұрын
Personally i dont do stuff with graded cards, just expensive and people always want PSA for the brand name and its kinda hard to grade from where im from. I'll just keep buying sealed and cards I like 😊
@farfartom
@farfartom 6 ай бұрын
Not into grading. Here in the UK ACE grading are building a positive rep
@dasherguy23
@dasherguy23 6 ай бұрын
Great content as usual, Danny. Happy new year!
@SuperMattman88
@SuperMattman88 6 ай бұрын
I think I will only ever go for PSA unless I think I have a perfect 10 for the Black Label.
@BlastoiseBaller
@BlastoiseBaller 6 ай бұрын
Hey Danny just FYI the lack of perfect 10s from CGC goes without saying here, because they were retired before the English release of the set. Only Japanese 151 had a perfect 10 window. Love you bud.
@danielcuyugan3278
@danielcuyugan3278 6 ай бұрын
I thought cgc don't do perfect grade anymore after their re-labeling?
@macariusfreestyle8521
@macariusfreestyle8521 5 ай бұрын
I like the blue on the CGC but prefer the PSA. Just classic and original look. Looks better for me.
@alexmichel1224
@alexmichel1224 6 ай бұрын
I got a bunch that need to get graded. I might go with psa or beckett.
@user-om4nk6ui2s
@user-om4nk6ui2s 6 ай бұрын
wow! we can all sleep better after this super informative and important update from you!
@BasedTCG
@BasedTCG 6 ай бұрын
You ever going to play in a tournament again?
@jordannorris4029
@jordannorris4029 6 ай бұрын
Your such a good person danny always giving back to the community and helping a sick child get better through donations god bless you truly
@user-fm7gs2kk9p
@user-fm7gs2kk9p 6 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work. Happy holidays!!!
@Grimmthenerd
@Grimmthenerd 6 ай бұрын
Perfect timing , I was just wondering about getting some cards graded 🤝
@tdubmccain
@tdubmccain 6 ай бұрын
Love your insight bro
@samuelboudreault34
@samuelboudreault34 6 ай бұрын
Really love your stat videos ❤ keep up the great work
@DannyV_26
@DannyV_26 6 ай бұрын
Hoping for that ultimate pack set!
@robertburke744
@robertburke744 6 ай бұрын
Hoping to start the new year with that planny god pack
@neseirf70
@neseirf70 6 ай бұрын
First allow me to say that you are a king among men Danny! Bless you for always caring and doing what you can to help the community! You are amazing! CGC has the lower value because they are no longer reputable and it's only going to get worse as more shady business practice information comes out ( like tipping off people pre 9.5 becoming 10's). PSA sadly is just so well known and recognized that they command a higher dollar value. I say sadly as the group I'm in has had many horrific experiences with them from them damaging multiple cards to incompetent graders. Something they graded for a group member was graded as a 7 and it was cracked and subbed to BGS and received a 10. PSA is trash. BGS is just too expensive and only desired for their black labels. AGS would actually be my favourite but grading with them even if you get 10's adds next to nothing in value over raw and certainly not enough to cover the grading fees. Sad as they are probably the best grading company by far but will likely go out of business. Thanks for the great info as always!
@Chonks2DaVMAX
@Chonks2DaVMAX 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Never thought about the difference.
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