HUGE Hay Rake, SUBCOMPACT TRACTOR!!

[@timziegler9358]

I confess I am somewhat envious of the fun your having raking the hay. Farm work, albeit at times difficult, can be very rewarding.

[@jeffherndon]

I really appreciate you showing the smaller equipment that you would get for a small hobby farm. It’s really appreciated. I still want to see a drag box blade and a drag land plane. Thanks Tim!

[@adamfpv8294]

With the profit that we make we’re all hobby farmers

[@tinemasic2664]

I do a lot of work with rotary one. If hay is dry, you can rake it onto the unraked hay. But if there is some moisture, you can take a litle bit smaller portion of unraked hay on the second pass and turn over whole swath.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thanks for posting this. I’m wanting to start Bailing hay with my 2038R and it’s hard to find videos on the subject. I have a small KZbin channel about how we manage our our property So I recognize the amount of effort that goes into making these videos while trying to get work done

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for the kind words. We have an episode with the 2038r on the round baler.

[@GrampysTractor]

This is becoming a great series of videos, cutting, tedding, raking and bailing. That is exactly what I want to do. If you get a tedder and need someone to pull it around let me know. The corn has been outstanding too.

[@NHHalKnowsHow]

Tim, You come up with the coolest attachments for the compact tractors! I love this channel!

[@ronalddean4834]

I am amazed at the work the little tractors can do besides the usual things. The usual things the loader, now grass,rotor tiller those things. I'm watching to see how it handles some of the bigger implements. Great video thanks Tim

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We were quite surprised at how well it handled this large rake!

[@d.a.ballou9740]

It's amazing to see how the equipment has changed over time. So much different then when I use to help in the hay fields 45 years ago!

[@Kcolby47]

Another super video Tim and Christy. Enjoyed seeing you and Matt working together with 2 different machines. Also, the drone shots were great. Looking forward to baling! Matt seems like a cool and interesting fellow. Blessings to all!

[@danielsharon524]

Interesting view @ 6:00 of both tractors. Really gives a great perspective of the physical size difference between a 1025R and a 2038R.

[@youkidin1]

The close up when Matt passed by and he was kicking up some dust is right when I sneezed lol Stay safe guys.

[@davidfox363]

I felt my throat and nose tightening up

[@bobbytedder9893]

Start with the rotary rake in the center of the field or rake one round then turn around after the first pass to throw hay on clean ground

[@fubr0401]

Love that you're using the compacts for hay. I've been using my compact kubota the last few years to rake.

[@jimmywalker9245]

Since the 1025R has cut and raked, its only logical for it to pull a baler next 😁

[@jaybee2344]

A square baler only needs 30 hp

[@ironmatic1]

Jay Bee There’s a video of a 212 predator repower tractor running a square baler.

[@jimmywalker9245]

ironmatic 1 the old massey harris. Thats a great video 👍🏿

[@BooherFarm]

A square baler will destroy the pto in a compact when the plunger hits, that’s why the “compact balers” are round balers. Round balers requires constant power not surges in power

[@CompactNation2022]

For the love of tools not true there’s a couple new square balers out there that require 18 pto hp maschio has one and abrieba I believe is the other one

[@retireddriver16]

My wife and I put up loose hay for our horses we rotary cut hay rake by hand pick it up by a pichfork haul to barn on a 5x8 trailer unload and pack with the tractor and loader last year we put enough hay up to make mid march and that feedings 8 horses 🐴

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Ugh. That is too much work!!!

[@garywaxler7866]

Just have to watch out for bumble bee nest in the ground when your doing hay. I have been lucky enough to not find any but my dad, uncle, & cousin haven't been. When you cut & rake an open cab is ok but just look out for them buzzing around on your second pass through. When you bale you definitely want to use a cab tractor though.

[@theoneandonlysessy]

I have really enjoyed this series of videos and I look forward to the baling. Grew up baling hay and I love to watch other peoples ways of doing it... I'd like to see you pick up one of those mini round balers for next year!

[@walterkmatlock1253]

Hi I'm Walter k matlock and I have a John Deere 3025e and I love it what size is Johnny 2 and I have a 5ft Bushhogg with mine and I'm going to get more attachment for mine

[@kdeckster]

Great job Matt and Tim, that sure is a beautiful place!

[@matthewjones2394]

Ken Deckelman Thanks! Your going to have to get out here and visit for a while!

[@jean-philippegagnon9189]

There's something oddly satisfying in watching hay rake videos, i could look at this for hours hahaha. Nice one Tim!

[@parkersadv]

My neighbor uses a similar Kuhn rake for his hobby and custom baling, Works well to be able to rake both directions as demonstrated to merge. The lower speed would also seem to beat up the hay less, keeping more of the desired leaves attached.

[@t.s.tractorworkstrickland5828]

I love cutting and bailing hay You can run a small square baler with Johnny 2 I ran a 14 T John Deere square baler with the Yanmar 2610 one time and it did good

[@glenbreaks5448]

For a few years I had a 16 foot Zweegers 4 basket haybob. It's the only large Zweegers I've seen, the little ones are much more common. The main thing learned was that hay was a lot of work and worry. It's even more work when it goes wrong (rain!) That gets pretty depressing, you have to keep turning the lowered value product so that it can finally be baled a lugged off the field. I'll be interested to see how Matt does that part. We had no special equipment, just a hay wagon and conveyor- elevator to load the mow. The hardest work imaginable on the hottest days of the year. It has to be hot or the hay won't dry!

[@dougthegrouch]

Another winner! Had my hopes up to see the baler in action. I gotta learn to watch your videos BEFORE going shopping for new equipment.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Baler is next...coming Sunday morning.

[@lukehansen9185]

An old new holland bar rake is what I would use on that little tractor

[@justinsikes2221]

Beautiful property, and I think this will be a good fall back for comparison on expensive rakes / competition. Very impressed by both machines!

[@CenTexAg]

It seemed like the smaller rake was really throwing the hay around. Could it cause more leaf loss than the slower larger rake in the process? Excellent content as always!!

[@benjaminstockton3917]

Enjoyed it a lot Tim you guys did great job . I liked the rake that was hooked little johnny .Tim Christy I appreciate your guys videos there awesome

[@rougaroux2359]

Tim I would like to see you and Matt mow together again. But the next time I would like to see you using a small Disc Mower on the smallest tractor you could use it on.

[@loganrench5680]

I have a Milwaukee 18volt grease gun with lock and lube coupler I gotta say those couplers work great

[@cooldec18]

I did use a iseki tk538 with 38hp with a 6.4m dubbel rake and it works just fine

[@fatroofus]

“Hay, it’s getting dark” - We saw what you were doing!! 🇺🇸⚓️

[@tractorcorleone]

The small JD with the big racke is very powerful,that's amazing 😀👍👍

[@CapeAnnImages]

Very interesting, the only similar hay raking I've ever see around here is on the salt marshes harvesting salt hay. The one I saw didn't run off the PTO but had a sprocket & chain running from its wheels. The faster the tractor goes the faster the rake spun. I guess the only thing to worry about is a windy day! Best Regards, Jay

[@XaViEr3520]

Oof was expecting the next day too!! Oh well 🤷🏻‍♂️ just gives me something to look forward to!

[@peterkober6758]

Tim it's great to see implements on sub and compact tractors God Bless All PaK

[@thomasyerbey337]

Hey Tim 🇺🇸 🚜 great information they both look to be doing a good job 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@davidbonnet9614]

Great video! I personally just started using a rotary rake (Kubota) and love it. It's not as fancy and doesn't have the hydraulic lift but it's also quite a bit cheaper than the Kuhn you used. The hydraulic lift is really nice but it only takes a couple of minutes (if that) to set the non-hydraulic version to rake correctly. I simply use the 3pt to raise it up a bit if I have to make too sharp of a turn or back up. These rakes are pretty awesome.

[@joeystump3591]

You mentioned a few times not moving all the hay with the rotary rake, if you double it (down and back) all will be moved. Love my rotary rake.

[@bartonmd]

You can definitely see the difference side by side, that tire size does to the ride of both tractors! The 1025R is bouncing a lot more! Speaking of which, I had asked you on FB a while back about my uncle's 1/2 ton towing a 2038R+loader. He ended up going and getting it and on an 18ft car hauler with WD hitch, it did great!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Usually a truck can easily tow more than the rated weight. All is well until you get into an accident. THEN things go bad. Lawyers will pounce on the overweight issue.

[@bartonmd]

@@TractorTimewithTim true, but I don't think it was even close. That truck is rated to tow a little over 10k, I think, and I'm certain it's not even close to that. It was almost certainly less than a 7k trailer.

[@jasoncrocker9332]

Johnny handled that Kuhn nicely 👍 I used A haybob 300 on A IH 444 tractor A lot growing up it was fine in the field you could tedd & wind row with it but it had A lot of tail weight when lifted for A small tractor on our steep field access roads we would have to lower it almost to the ground on the steepest roads in case the front end got light. Lots of pucker moments lol

[@danne77sthlm]

I have raked thousands of hours with belt rake, haybob and most of it with a 3 point rotary rake like the one you have here Trick we did, was to go down the field, then go back with the rake just enough to move a bit of the whole row over, or if it was really heavy grass, just took the row and moved it almost 100% back over to where you had it when you went down the first time Hope it makes sense, otherwise I will see if I can show you in a better way, this was really nice to look at, fields looked great!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Got it.

[@Formulabruce]

1025 in High gear with a Tedder?, Wow I am impressed! I am sure this is a FIRST on You Tube. I wonder how long it could go on a tank of fuel doing that, Acres?

[@kivetts04dmax]

Just ordered my grease gun! I can’t wait to use it, tired of buying tubes just to have them leak out of the gun everywhere.

[@Fireater303]

Please do a video on hydraulic options for the 1025R, including diverter kits and please explain flows and options to increase flows! Thanks!

[@FISHH00KS]

Fan? I'm glad my Kubota has a heater because sometimes the A/C gets way too cold!

[@bluezy261175]

Cute rakes. Even better results, and as you see, you do not need a lot of power to rake stuff. I had the impression Johnny's rake worked a lot better. It goes to show that specialised equipment often works better then stuff that 'can' do it.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Same impression here.

[@Booger7563]

I traded my wheel rake in for a rotary rake. IMO a rotary rake excels in producing cleaner hay, fluffs the windrows up better for drying and shouldn’t break as many tines with the bogey wheels and that there is minimal contact with the ground and tines.

[@johnmedlin5894]

Great video Tim as always. I've used a 4 basket Tedder and they work great, so it sounds like your friend is looking at some nice equipment. On another note, it's our job to stress the Finance Committee; otherwise, we're not able to get such wonderful toys (I mean work tools).

[@waynejones5239]

I have used the larger rake that u where using I thought it left a lot of hay on the ground I think the bar rake and the wheel rakes work better

[@jannik12f]

I love anything you do Tim

[@ronprestidge5907]

Those rakes are awesome, we have only used the wheel style

[@jeffstrains4014]

I am looking for some ideas on a good rake to use in a one man operation. Have been using a (parallel-bar) rake pull behind. Its a good rake in light fields like the one we finished couple days ago took 6 laps to make a big enough row. But in normal conditions unless the baler is running with you all happens is you close yourself up in the windrows. I like the rake you pulled with Johnny I am thinking a bigger version of that would work, or a wheel rake. Cool video I also like having 2 tractors in a field

[@janskoropinski10]

Thank you for the lube shuttle update!!

[@wayneedwards6623]

Maybe consider getting a v rake which have centre wheel to turn the middle row

[@putmeincoach7663]

I'm a fan of the side delivery rakes. Especially for alfalfa or timothy.

[@bradolsen9981]

I really do love that little jingle that plays in your video I think you and Chrissy should come up with a dance routine for that song what do you think

[@bradolsen9981]

Thank you thank you very much I thought it was kind of cute myself

[@ThingyGoos]

Brad Olsen Forgot to switch accounts?

[@mattphillips4260]

back last spring i think it was a friend of mine we was looking at getting in to the hay making there is a company up around northern indiana that had package deal was a 2 in 1 rake tedder mower and baler for a compact tractor i want to think the had a couple different sizes one for the 1000 and one for the 2000 series deere tractors i say deere here cause you are in with deere more than any other brand but you could also have the cub or kubota or any brand tractor

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, tractortoolsdirect.com. Spoke with them.

[@mattphillips4260]

@@TractorTimewithTim yes that is the one but i kept thinking of everythingatachments.com out of i want to say carolinas

[@jddriver9565]

maybe you can make some of your own hay with some maschio and rhino equipment at the tower.;)

[@sap3055]

That hay rake is no problem for Johnny

[@chrismills4213]

Love seeing the compacts in action

[@ambermcfarland6273]

Hell we bale hay with a John Deere 755 and a new Holland 276 baler..

[@k_brennan01]

Hi Tim thought you might have got Johnny 5 involved in that task. At least you would have had AC!!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

2 hours from my house. Could not haul em all.

[@k_brennan01]

@@TractorTimewithTim think you might need a bigger trailer... maybe an 18 wheeler 😂

[@carrollthim8460]

good job puting up lites how your raking go 1025r god bless&all

[@benholland7609]

why is there a padlock dangling from the hitch at 2:58? Thanks for another great video Tim and Christie

[@TractorTimewithTim]

There is no padlock. Probably the safety chain...we didn’t have it Hooked up. More useful for road transport.

[@farmboy5622]

Even though those rakes are doing a good job,.....I feel that you are wasting fuel by running the PTO. I would go with a "Wheeled Rake", the ones that have large wheels with tines (4 or 5 feet in diameter), that are driven by contact with the plant growth and slight ground pressure. They come in all different sizes. They are fast, quiet, and gentle on the hay.

[@christianf5226]

Where do you think the power to drive the rake off the ground comes from

[@brianocallaghan7716]

Wheel rakes tend to collect more ash and stones as they rely on ground contact to drive.

[@farmboy5622]

@@christianf5226 "Wheeled Rakes" are not driven by PTO. The large wheels rotate through slight contact with the stubby plants and ground as you drive through the field. (I am not talking about the old 3-bar or 4-bar rakes that had 2 large drive wheels) Due to frictional forces, both types of rakes need something to pull them through the fields, and will use about the same power/fuel, but using the PTO is an extra fuel cost, not to mention extra wear and tear on the tractor and equipment. I grew up with Dairy cows and Black Angus. We were more concerned about having a rake that was gentle on the hay, and not knock the leaves off. The Wheeled Rake is very gentle on the hay. And as an added bonus,.....they are very quiet and have fewer moving parts. We just had open-station tractors when I grew up, and not having to listen to something noisy behind you was a bonus.

[@farmboy5622]

@@brianocallaghan7716 I agree that they can, if you do not have them set correctly. You basically want the stubby part of the plant that is left, to come in contact with the tines. You will get a little scratching of the surface. There are a lot of things to consider when baling or chopping hay. Nutritional values, cost of equipment, fuel costs, weather conditions, timing of the cuttings, various soil types, all play into the final equation. Every farmer has to do what he or she thinks is best for them.

[@wendellkulp95]

still loving it.. i just brought my own johnny on monday of this week..

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Congratulations!

[@1259bogs]

Onelonelyfarmer (on KZbin) likes the H&S rakes. He is a big time hay farmer!

[@not_me3286]

They make good rakes. I have a little 16 wheel high cap., most of the neighbors have 20 :( .

[@jimdial7756]

Waiting to see you bale

[@mattbarker7739]

Another good video tim,can't to watch the baleying

[@markdickerson7588]

I just bought a 1025r my last tractor was the 739x what the highest you have been able to mow with the 1025r at this moment about 3.5 is all I can get

[@tinachambers4887]

Yall got the job done in record time well done Hi Christi have a day love from TEXAS

[@billfenner7084]

It looks like you are practicing safe social distances

[@robertheinkel6225]

The smaller tractors, with their smaller tires, would have a rougher ride.

[@brucealvarez9263]

$6,400 for a machine that will do the job of two sounds like the better deal for small acreage hay makers.

[@johndiehl4466]

I have a question. I have 90 acres of land and most of it is woods do you think Johnny 2 can handle it? Or do I need a bigger frame tractor

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Impossible to say. Depends on what you want to accomplish. You could do a lot with a 2038r. You would probably be more suited for a 3R or 4R.

[@emrythompson]

We own 200 acres and only have two Oliver 550s, 46hp. One Oliver super 77, 48hp. One Ventrac 32hp,and a gator. And a 35 hp old new holland skid loader.

[@ArnieD17]

Min. PTO HP required in Kuhn spec sheet 30.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Probably needs about 10 actually!

[@bobpurs]

Rotary rakes are so nice and don’t t take any hp. Have a 3 point Kuhn. Only way to rake. Fluffs the hay up. Jdmich

[@barnettsbarnyard]

Would you show the rakes moving grass you cut with a finish mower or a shredder. Really Like your Videos.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

That would not make sense. Rakes are intended for long cut hay.

[@barnettsbarnyard]

@@TractorTimewithTim I have hay grass that I mow with my finish mower. By the 3rd time I mow its very hard to mow. The grass doesn't break down fast enough and I have to run it over again. A landscape rake doesn't work just rolls up the grass and jumps over it.

[@barnettsbarnyard]

I'm not wanting to make hay I want it out of my way.

[@DimensionDude]

@@barnettsbarnyard you will probably have much better luck with a bagger, a vacuum system or a pull-behind sweeper. I have been using the same pull-behind sweeper for about 20 years (this is not an exaggeration) with good results. If the grass is particularly thick, it takes several passes (incrementally lowering the sweeper) but I still get good results.

[@ERICMB24MF37U24F39]

The hay smells good

[@jamesmcmahonii8433]

Wheel rake us always the way to go

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Always?

[@jamesmcmahonii8433]

@@TractorTimewithTim always. I will ever go back to anything else.

[@ryancronin8730]

Do they make converters from belt pto to regular pto?

[@cpm324]

5 foot or 4 foot box blade? Incline to consider. What’s your call Tim? 1025r with rim guard.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

You’ll be able to handle a 4’ better. We have a recent video of a 5’ on our 1025r. It will stop the machine in its tracks.

[@johndeere2038r]

Hey Tim , First of all that hay rake looks like it does a nice job ! Now something a little off topic if that's ok . Been on my mind lately about loading my rear tires on my 2020 bobcat ct1025 with loader . I have the rear ballast on it but thought loaded tires would sure help as well . Now I will be mowing about 90% of the time so I chose turf tires after trying out the r4's first, just my own preference for mostly lawn driving . Anyways did you notice a lot of difference in the ride after loading your tires ? I do enjoy the softer ride of the turfs compared to the r4's I had on it at first . But I don't want to loose to much of that comfort if the loaded tires are going to be to rough . Just wanted your opinion please if you don't mind ? I have around 400 lbs. Rear ballast. Plus the easy change Pat's system which puts that 400 lbs. Out 4 more inches . Would greatly appreciate your wisdom Tim !

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Oh yea, loading the tires reduces the ‘bounce’ which is part of the rough ride.

[@johndeere2038r]

@@TractorTimewithTim awesome thanks Tim . Any suggestions for cost friendly way to fill them as we're a little strapped at the moment . Also lowest temps would be around - 40 c . ( Fun fact I live about 45 min away from where they manufacturer baumalight in Wallenstein, ON) here in Ontario Canada .

[@daultontransport4703]

I think the KUHN 4220 made better rows, personally. I’d love to see a comparison video of a John Deere and Mahindra cutting, raking, and bailing hay. Mahindra’s made heavier, the rears are heavier, while JD is lighter, with an aluminum rear end. Plus, with Mahindra, you can turn the wheel with a load in the bucket, to where Kabota nor JD can’t turn the steering wheel with a load in the bucket.

[@jimmeyer777]

I don't understand this post. I drive all over the place, with a loaded bucket, with a Kubota B7800 HST.

[@johndiehl4466]

Johnny 1 goes 12mph while Johnny 2 goes 15

[@BooherFarm]

“Off brand rake” if you think Kuhn is off brand you’re a joke. Kuhn is the leader in hay and forage equipment.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Obviously. I’m always surprised at how some folks fail to detect humor. I was just joking that they are not our sponsor. I think this was pretty obvious to most folks.

[@joesears584]

Is the rake on little Johnny connected to the trailer hitch or something else

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We have a heavyhitch.com 2 inch receiver drawbar which replaces the flat drawbar plate on the 1025r. We then have a 2 inch receiver compatible drawbar inserted in it. Use code ttwt for a 5% discount.

[@joesears584]

@@TractorTimewithTim thank you Tim. I was wondering with the heavy hitch , how the pto shaft clearance is. I too am using my compact tractor in unconventional ways sorry for all the questions, I watch your videos on a small screen. Hard to see the fine details

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@joesears584 it is fine with a standard PTO shaft. There would not be room for a huge CV joint. I use the heavy hitch drawbar all the time…for example, used it on the 12’ turf batwing with Johnny X.

[@arthurslife1881]

What’s the rake on the 1025

[@randypoortinga5735]

Huge hahaha

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Looks pretty big on THAT tractor.

[@reaperhunter7297]

Not to be rude that little tractor looks like a sort of beefy lawnmower lol

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep. It is. Welcome to our channel. We show what can be done with tiny tractors. Thanks for watching!

[@smitty9120]

Pequea tedder one of the best on the market

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Why? ...and are you a salesperson, or otherwise involved with the company?

[@smitty9120]

@@TractorTimewithTim im not a salesman ive had my 4 basket for 4 years now and have ran a kuhn, mf and demod numerous others pequea was the only one built heavy enough in my opinion i do like the kuhn rotary rakes though

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Good stuff. I ask so that folks know where the opinions originate! We try to be transparent for the same reasons :-)

[@michaelsa892]

I nominate my mother she’s 70 years old and she just can’t grease the car like she use to lol😜

[@stephensouthcombe6439]

There is no reason to be putting hay on top of other hay that doesn't get moved. The reason that you are putting hay on top of hay that does not get moved is because you are traveling around the field in the same direction that you cut the field. You should travel in the other direction around the field so that the baffle canvas is over open ground rather than over top of cut hay. By doing this you would not have any hay that is not getting moved. Now, granted, you will not be doubling up the windrow but you don't need to double up the windrow until you are actually ready to bale and doubling up the windrow depends on your equipment capability. You have multiple scales of equipment running together here so you have a mismatch of methodology to the field work.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

This was a mistake on my part. Shoulda rolled that hay out onto non cut hay. You are correct.

[@curtwhite876]

"Greaze" lol

[@connork4440]

yall know kune is not a off brand

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Ha! Of course...they are just not our sponsor, so we are teasing. These two takes both worked great!

[@lukehall5959]

Hello this cool

[@ryansullivan2933]

I’m worried about your friend Matt’s heavy breathing.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Matt is aware of medical issues. He is under a doctor’s care.

[@matthewjones2394]

Ryan I’m glad you are still watching out for me! Glad you liked it.

[@ryansullivan2933]

Matthew Jones any time buddy!

[@tomjofarms1038]

How much horse power dose Johnny have

[@tomjofarms1038]

Little Johnny

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Rated at 24 engine. We tested our last Johnny on a dyno. It had 25.5 at the PTO.

[@tomjofarms1038]

Thanks

[@tomjofarms1038]

Thanks

[@tomjofarms1038]

I love watching your Chanel

[@KrS14]

If you went the opposite direction, you wouldn't be throwing on top of unraked hay.

[@crazyhass84]

Its simple rakes and tedders. Why in the world would u buy new?! 10k rake and 7k tedder is nuts even if u have the money.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

One reason is to get a new feature. For example the later version of the rake we are showing on the 1025r has ‘fold up’ arms for a 6’ transport width.

[@matte2618]

that's not a huge rake lol

[@TractorTimewithTim]

No, but seems huge on that subcompact!