HUGE MISTAKE... I helped my son drown his 4wd!

[@neutronstorm]

Nice recovery. This is the time when having well maintained gear and the right skills and training pays off. Absolutly agree that having an understanding of WHY a rule exists is much more valuable than just knowing the rule itself. This is showing the experience to be able to do all the load calculations in your head and constantly do risk assessments of the situation keeping your family safe. A trick I have used recently is having some winch rope wrapped around the bar ready for quick use, great idea if travelling solo.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Great comment. I’ve used the rope out in the past. This was the old story of getting caught wanting to see a place not wheel a place.

[@MiniLuv-1984]

Holy cow batman! That was epic. Well done getting it out. That was clearly due to your decisions in the moment, but also and equally decisions in the past - the winch rope, the engine prep etc.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks it was epic in the bad way

[@Deadcntr]

I got into a similar situation crossing a river. I didn't have a winch. I used my hi-lift jack to jack up the rear of my Land Cruiser FJ-40 and push it to the side. I was able to clear the diff and proceed on my way.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Very well done. That’s a good old trick

[@Mouldyturnip75]

You got out safely, no harm no foul, and lessons learned (and what a campfire story!) Been there, played that game and despite years of wheeling and recoveries of all sorts, when your deep in water, on your own, no signal - some things go out the window - rational thought seems to leave us. Can't expect to be well oiled, precise, and mistake-free when the time comes, because (thankfully) we don't rehearse these types of recoveries repeatedly to learn them. Quality equipment and good maintenance. The time invested later on reflection shows us we all still have lots to learn and apply regardless of our age or experience.

[@MadMatt4WD]

I’m always making mistakes but I do try to learn from them.

[@gringo19860]

Is this the same son Matt, that had the little off near Dargo? I hope his pride & joy was rebuilt after that rock, and you two continue to have great (but safe) experiences to share with us👍Thanks

[@MadMatt4WD]

This is my other son. It seems I can get them both into trouble.

[@gringo19860]

@@MadMatt4WD Haha, you're a great Dad mate. Building life experience & resilience 😉

[@mikem9953]

I understand people pick these videos apart, but I think that was a Damn quick, successful recovery. You needed to get that engine out ASAP! Well done by all 3 of you.

[@jonathanfeg7965]

Really like this channel straight to the point and very informative I’ve just started 4wding so this is a huge help cheers :)

[@tonygersbach375]

Well done MadMatt family, your son was very calm. I reckon that is because he had you there and he trusts that you know what you are doing, and that trust kept him calm. Bravo mate!. Out of interest what brand winch is it?

[@MadMatt4WD]

It’s a roadrunner Offroad winch

[@powerhorsea1a376]

Very nicely done, thank you to each of you. Not to much deep water crossings here in the Central Utah mountains but if the 35's go completely under it raises an eyebrow. 🤔

[@MadMatt4WD]

When I wheeled sand hollow we had a bit of water to play with.

[@buzz7927]

things can go wrong quickly but its the steps you take to get out of the situation that make a difference. Good equipment is the key Thanks Matt. Hope the insides dry out quick

[@MadMatt4WD]

Cheers Buzz

[@MatMcCrudden]

Looks like a spot in the Duea NP , There were a few spots like that there where we would pull up on our bikes and help out the 4wd's. It did well to start after turning off, well done!

[@MadMatt4WD]

This was in QLD but I do know Duea NP as well.

[@danbusey]

A clear head under duress is very handy. Well done Matt!

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks Dan. I don’t feel this was my finest hour.

[@heftymerv]

done the same thing, except I had to winch with a hilift jack...lol... we left it there and got a mate the next day to winch it out... that was a few hours of my life I will never get back...lol.. I feel for your son and his 80 series, I would be just as devastated as you, looks like at the end of the day, everything worked and no one was hurt and you get to explain a hectic moment to everyone.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks mate. Yeah I’m still upset about it.

[@zonavarbondagoo4074]

Well done mate. Went up to Heaton lookout last week and even up there the tracks have really disgusting bog holes that I wouldn't attempt even in my 80!

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yeah right. Give us rock any day

[@Sl_king213]

Nice recovery my 5 years old son enjoyed it.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Excellent.

[@Walkeranz]

Nice quick decision making. Good work

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks mate

[@kaynesault3209]

Grate work Matt still remember when you used to go running into the puddles of mud before you went through them but yes do understand the circumstances, your a grate mentor !!!

[@MadMatt4WD]

Ah the good days before I was old and stupid. 🤪

[@thewhiteoxoverland]

Good teamwork guys! Had this happen before! Great that you can rely on your equipment in situations like this. Imagine if that winch wasn't properly serviced or the motor packed it in or something? Sometimes they really can save your bacon. I fitted a hard wired, in cab switch for my winch to avoid this exact problem of messing around with a plug in controller in a recovery situation like this. Best winch mod ever I think. Also makes it more reliable. Stay safe guys. Jade.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Great comment Jade. I have that setup in the racecar.

[@davidwelday3276]

While in the US army in 1989, Hohenfels Germany maneuver area. I was the track commander of a M113 armored personnel carrier (an aluminum box on treads) and my crazy platoon sergeant that had 7 tours in Nam said lets go through a puddle that looked much like this one. I was just a low life specialist E-4 but I had a bad feeling about that hole and expressed my reservations. Crazy platoon sergeant said lets go for it. I ended up just like your truck ass in buried and throwing track (meaning it was coming off). Cease and desist and had to tow it out, and get another vehicle to knock our track back on. It was messy. But it was fun. I'm thinking yall got stuck because your steering wheel is on the wrong side:)

[@jamestanner9198]

It is almost a sure thing when things go wrong they happen so fast and you have to be ready for it, Such as getting stuck as you did snap a cv car going sideways while going up a hill and almost rolling. I dont do the stuff you do Matt but i have learnt that slow down think then act as you did then is the safe way to tackle the situation, My son almost rolled his toyota on our last camping trip . The hill was not very steep but off camber and round corner. He slipped sideways and came to a stop on the rails if not for that a rollover would have happened. i had muds on so was able to go up put a strap on him pack wheels with logs and treds and slowly pull him back. No damage and no one got hurt. I think the way to go is not go in all fired up take time think as you did then act, Great vid too Matt as usual.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks James. Glad your son was ok. Did you see the video where my son did roll?

[@jamestanner9198]

@@MadMatt4WD Yes i did Matt and he was very lucky he not get hurt.

[@akthad]

It's interesting watching of-road vehicles recovery vs UTV's. The techniques are very similar. I've had all kinds of vehicles stuck in various paces. Winches are always very helpful, sometime multiple rigging points are needed as well as a "block" of some sort! I have also found a one ton rope come-a-long to be very beneficial! that and a block or two will get you back out of a lot of... muck. Been there fishing around under water for confections, then I added the winch controls in the cab. I live in Alaska so many times I have to use a multi tree anchor in the swamps. The trees are too small to use for a anchor. Tie off to the bottom of a tree, then anchor 3/4's the way up the tree to the bottom of another tree. you can repeat this up to about three times. The idea is that you create a "shear" point on the primary tree, vs a "moment" connection. I've used it many times and it works great.

[@MadMatt4WD]

That’s a cool idea for connecting to small trees.

[@kevinsummersford4112]

Totally agree Matt good video mate it's back to basics but it's the basics that get the job done

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yep.

[@lukemagro6060]

I almost did this in a 4year old V8 grand Cherokee. Hit the water, it sunk down like entering a swimming pool and I just mashed the fuel, luckily it gripped, rolled water everywhere and jumped out the other side, it took a while to find the number plate but otherwise all was ok. Big clean up, ( I saw your follow up, mine wasn't nearly as bad) I've avoided deep mud since. Thanks for the episode I didn't realise just how lucky I was.

[@Stevenk770]

Would be sweet to see a “ultimate 1fzfe” video on all the little tips and tricks for these cars/engine like how you keep the engine fairly water proof and that sort of thing.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Keep it factory is about it but there are a few tricks you can do. I’ll do that vid.

[@Stevenk770]

MadMatt 4WD awesome, will be good to see

[@rylanherrick5660]

@@MadMatt4WD keen to that vid too, owning a tb42E.

[@Haywoodjablomie100]

Tuff break drowning the rig. These is where i love my bluetooth winch controller, it takes the time out of trying to plug a corded unit in then having an additional cable in the way and limiting where you can walk while holding the controller. But your son done great being calm enough to explain where and how the controller plugs in.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yeah the Bluetooth units are good. Yes he did. I should have given him the controller.

[@BruceschultzAU]

It all worked out OK The winch rope had no tension when you stepped over it. I wouldn't even bother mentioning it. You should have engaged the diff locks before you need them in that kind of scenario and have not turned the vehicle off.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Great points.

[@DirtyiRenter]

I feel this Is definitely the reality of 4wding, mainstream guys being able to get through anything with the most expensive kit

[@jeffreyarmas1548]

hey Matt , that's part of the adventure... hey do you guys did any Job to seal de distributor or is jus like a factory one ? thanks man

[@MadMatt4WD]

It’s just the factory setup

[@jeffreyarmas1548]

@@MadMatt4WD ok ok , do you guys have plans to seal it ? like with some vacuum lines to the engine or something?

[@MadMatt4WD]

Nah not for this. You can but these don't tend to need it for the few times we do water.

[@overlandready]

Afternoon Matt! When the wheels dropped in the holes at 43 secs, it was all futile (but you don't know that at the time!) for the next minute, yep, I'd have done the same, it's not really digging you in, but not getting you out. So yeah, it's winch it out. As you say, the choice and position of the tree strop can make a lot of difference in time, personally I think you picked the wrong tree, but hindsight is a wonderful thing! At 2.30-2.40 having a remote controlled winch is a lovely thing! 😛 Re the winch rope, yep, agree and in that situation would have done exactly the same. there was no real possibility of anything going seriously wrong there. All in all, a good out. 😀

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yeah it was a circus for sure. I learned

[@tpv59]

GREAT GREAT video Matt. KRAPP happens !!!!!!! All history now.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yep we learn and move on.

[@tpv59]

@@MadMatt4WD Exactly.

[@ping_xp-bikesping6591]

Good demonstration

[@MadMatt4WD]

Cheers

[@Warhorse469]

I had a similar experience in my VG33E R50 Pathfinder. We encountered many bog holes full of water, some of them over the bonnet and others knee-deep, but they all had solid bottoms. We were only two bog holes away from our campsite when we got stuck in the second last one, which had a soft bottom and was over the vehicle's bonnet. I tried to get out but I couldn't, and the panic and dread I felt when my 4WD started filling up with water was terrible. This was my only vehicle and my daily driver for work, so many thoughts were going through my mind. Without thinking, I turned off the engine, thinking my 4WD was done for. My friend tried to snatch me out from behind, but we ended up snapping the snatch strap, which hit the back of my 4WD and put a dent in the hatch. We didn't have a winch, and there were no trees around us, so we had to wait for 45 minutes, which felt like hours, for someone to help winch me out from behind. The person who helped me had a heavily modified Toyota 200 series, which was around four tons, and they started to get dragged into the water with me but managed to get me out. I was so thankful, I let my car sit for about 30 minutes before starting the engine. Water shot out of the tailpipe, and by this time, there were six other 4WDs behind me, worried the same thing would happen to them. One of those 4WDs was a ranger who ended up shutting that track down after seeing what happened and how bad the second last bog hole was. The ranger then drove behind me while I limped back to the road. I ended up calling a tow truck to take my 4WD home and took it to my local mechanic two days later, thinking the worst. In the end, I had no water in my engine, but both my diffs had water in them. My gearbox and transfer case had a very small amount of water in them. I got off very lucky I walk every single bog hole now lol.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Wow. Thats wild

[@petersparkie]

Interesting peoples different thoughts on diff locks. I’ve got them and I flick rear or rear+front before I need them. If that fails then I go for the winch. My thoughts are share the load to as many axles as possible. Looking forward (to the added security) of fitting up my new Warn 15000lb winch to the front of the Troopy. Oh, and the remote controller to stay clear of that pesky winch rope. Hope the son’s cruiser cleaned up ok

[@MadMatt4WD]

The reason I leave them off is you normally don’t drive as far and if you do bog you have the lockers up your sleeve.

[@1RednBlue]

A terrible recovery but well discussed as a lesson. My only additions are that the driver should have had the winch control and disengage the winch and pull instead of unwinding would have been a lot faster. Great open, honest video.

[@landcruiser1055]

😮 what a shocker! Big bloody clean up for the cruiser. Feel sorry for the young bloke having his nice 80 dunked under & hope it’s not too costly money wise. 😭

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yeah mate

[@6226superhurricane]

couple of things i'd suggest, use your lockers if you have them in bog holes you have more chance of driving through or reversing out if they're already in. once you're stuck most times putting the lockers in won't help you've already spun two holes and diffed out. plug the winch controller in, tuck the cord under the windscreen wiper and hand it to the driver, the spotter or passenger sets up the winch line and instructs the driver when to winch in or out to get set up. once set up the driver controls the vehicle and the winch. the spotter stands clear and gives direction.

[@MadMatt4WD]

The reason I don’t have the lockers in is it means you don’t drive into the problem as far and if you do stop forward movement you can put them on to drive back. Works most of the time.

[@6226superhurricane]

@@MadMatt4WD no it doesn't, if you've got lockers and an unknown bog hole use them. you'll get further, you'll dig less holes and putting your lockers after you're bogged rarely works. we learnt this changing from detroits to selectable lockers.

[@MadMatt4WD]

We’ll agree to disagree.

[@6226superhurricane]

@@MadMatt4WD or you could just learn something new. and if you disagree then prove me wrong.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Back at ya. I think your not understanding the principle I’m applying. I’m going to do a video to explain it in due course.

[@stuartkcalvin]

Good piece mate, thanks.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Cheers comfortable

[@105isalive3]

I’ve been there done that in a Toyota, wasn’t too bad, an excuse to lay vinyl floor, upgrade and a dead alternator and have the front seats professionally cleaned…. Everything else was pretty good. Your sons winch sounds and pulls strong, which winch is it?

[@MadMatt4WD]

He has the Roadrunner Offroad winch. It’s waterproof and they do some upgrades to it. Works a treat.

[@jackfourbee3609]

It’s amazing what we do in Reality. All the training and knowledge helps with the split second decisions we make when it goes pair shape. Great vid Matt. You have got to be proud of your son. Knowing your equipment is a must. Where it is and how it works. Well thought 👏👏👏 keep up the great work 👍

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yes both my sons make me a very proud dad.

[@jackfourbee3609]

@@MadMatt4WD job well done. 👍

[@lowellcrabb151]

I don't do much water crossing in Arizona. Why would your son not have the winch controller in cab or have a wireless remote?

[@neutronstorm]

In the real world, you have to play with the cards you are dealt. The only comment I had is that maybe Matt should have passed the winch controller to his son through the window freeing his hands rather then try and operate it and the winch rope at the same time.

[@MadMatt4WD]

It’s a new install and we weren’t planning to go wheeling just looking around.

[@MadMatt4WD]

In hindsight I agree. Not sure why I didn’t

[@Triple-N]

Rules, rules, rules.... Rules are like "guidelines" anyway. 😉 Great work on recovery Mr and Mrs Mad Matt.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks mate

[@joevo3]

Well done Matt... 👏 In my opinion, you should not turn off the engine while the car in the water... If you do that, the water can get in from your exhaust to the cilinder and you can get a lot bigger problems (engine fail)... Correct me if I'm wrong... Thank you Matt.. I learn a lot from you.

[@MadMatt4WD]

I think your right.

[@purebloodnordicroamer7955]

I have never been in that situation before, but have been close, so you situation was good to watch. Going of subject slightly, but being highly experienced. Driving through sand dunes in WA at about midday ( not a good idea, never usually do this at this time of day) l got my approach angle wrong because of the sun was not casting a shadow, come to a grinding halt into a sand dune. My bull bar was bent right up against my radiator, lucky l had my seat belt on. Expensive damage. Sometimes we have moments of madness where we should have known better.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yep I’ve been caught with dunes before.

[@paulryan9632]

I always install a rocker switch for winch on the dash as well as remote makes life a lot easier

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yes i have that in the race car and it's great. I do find that having an outside winch control is good for packing the winch away and stuff like that.

[@JaxTellerRC]

Have you ever used truck claws? Do you know if they are any good as recovery gear?

[@MadMatt4WD]

Never heard of them

[@JaxTellerRC]

@@MadMatt4WD check them out on KZbin. Might make an interesting review video for you?

[@ivorscruton5121]

Was in Honduras in the 1990's near the border with Nicaragua, got stuck in a mud hole with my HJ 61, despite having front and rear cable lockers, progress was futile. The last resort was to use the PTO winch, unfortunately due to the Sandanista rebel situation, the roads were devoid of trees for 200 meters on either side, for ambush purposes. The locals managed to find a front end loader to act as an anchor point with pulling power, it was an eventful day none the less.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks for sharing.

[@Malc664]

Will you setup the winchrope next time before entering a similar water hole? Maybe even choose a tree just in case. That place looked like a swamp. It even had paperbark trees. I don't even have a winch so I appreciate learning from your videos. 👍🏻

[@MadMatt4WD]

Lots we could have done better for sure. A stick would have saved a lot of pain.

[@Malc664]

@@MadMatt4WD Or an echo sounder on the front of the Cruiser. No sorry, a stick for mud. 😄There should be sticks left there from previous wheelers I reckon. Good etiquette.

[@MadMatt4WD]

😂

[@orangepickel2]

You win some, you lose some but you can't win 99% of the time it's that 1% that cost you the dime. Good video.

[@MadMatt4WD]

True

[@stephenh7965]

Glad you covered the winch rope being "live". More importantly you covered that despite being a safety rule that there are shades of gray :)

[@MadMatt4WD]

So much in wheeling needs to be grey.

[@dimitristsagdis7340]

What's the background noise around min 6-9 ?

[@MadMatt4WD]

A fighter jet going over

[@sfshilo]

Blinker fluid is full at least

[@MadMatt4WD]

Ha ha ha. Love that

[@coptotermes]

Good video and good advise. Thanks.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Glad to help

[@Cicada4WD]

I've done similar. Went through a boghole I've done before and normally test depth with a stick but was leading and filming and didn't want to hold everyone up and thought I'd nose in but turned out to be heaps deeper after some rain, got stuck and had to winch. But in the moment I just wanted my car out asap and did some questionable recovery techniques. Ended up with panel damage. It's so hard to be clear headed when your car is in a bad situation.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yes it’s all well and good to talk about what should happen on KZbin but in the moment it’s not so easy.

[@happyjibbi]

this is why you buy a fourby, to go 4wdriving, done very well getting out relatively quickly. probs be a good idea to get some more agressive tyres though if your gonna go bogholing. 👍👍👍

[@MadMatt4WD]

We hate mud and avoid it where possible

[@steveg219]

Time mattered here, you got the job done!

[@Nick-sd7um]

Be cleaning that out for a while. Probably not a bad time to consider putting in some new sound deadening while pulling everything out to clean.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yeah he’s going to do that I think.

[@gqwarrior6694]

Yes I have done this & while I wasn't panicked, I wasn't exactly completely calm either. Now the winch controller gets plugged in & the winch rope gets spooled out enough to hang through the drivers window before I go into any water. Stripping & washing the interior of a brand new rig is not my idea of a good way to spend a Sunday

[@MadMatt4WD]

I hear you

[@G-force_Motorsport]

That's not a nice area, mechanically speaking! Hard wiring a second winch control to a two-way momentary toggle in the cabin is another solution to the remote socket being underwater, works a treat. I'm not sure a wireless one works in that situation? So glade your intake remained dry 😅

[@4Runner123]

Time to find some clean deep water to clean that out. Yup easy to make bad decision, reminder to check before you go in. The idea is to have fun no matter what happens 😁

[@MadMatt4WD]

Cheers mark

[@4Runner123]

@@MadMatt4WD enjoy watching your videos from 🇨🇦 love the type of trails you have in Australia. Also you have the right vehicles for wheeling. I would definitely own a landcruiser if I lived there. Over here they are expensive and very hard to find a decent one.

[@MadMatt4WD]

They’d rust out in Canada I imagine.

[@SouthlandFlyer]

Another thing I think worth mentioning is the lack of footwear. Doesn't take much to step on something like a broken stick or something else sharp under the mud or water and end up with medical situation mid-recovery. Also, the grip benefits you might get. Looking at what you were doing I did wonder if a pair of dive type boots would have been ideal, then just rinse them in clean water after the day.

[@darshparmar7679]

When I did that,after I started to let out 3m of winch rope an wrap it round across the top section of the bull bar so it ready to go I find this helps.

[@MadMatt4WD]

I agree it’s Good idea.

[@Candesce]

I got stuck like this even though I thought I did check the bog hole thoroughly. While I spot checked the depth at multiple points along the ruts, I didn't do it thoroughly enough and didn't find the fallen tree in the bog hole. Soon as the car went up and over the tree it was done for. Thankfully I had a mate with me and we snatched out within 5 minutes but it wasn't fast enough to stop the water unfortunately. Ironically, we did discuss leaving a snatch strap tied to the recovery point before trying the bog hole but I didn't want to get the snatch strap dirty for no reason. Lessons learned...

[@MadMatt4WD]

Lol yeah it’s the little things ay.

[@G6FG_NeverForgive]

Nice set of 37 inch treps would have done good in this situation, haven’t been through a bog hole that deep and I definitely don’t want to even on my 37" treps I flooded my driver side foot well once on my 31’s when I first got it, I saw a bog hole and tried to go through it, this bog hole however hat ruts deeper than 31’s, I ended up having to call my old man out, I ended up getting out but had to do a flush of my driver side foot well now with bigger tires I haven’t flooded anything inside the car thankfully 😂

[@michaelnugara1]

Shite happens and you handled it well. Personally I never head out alone. Glad you didn't lose the 4bie. Thanks for sharing

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks

[@dannyw7662]

I got high centered in the Pine Barrens. Pulled out my pull pal and pulled myself out.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Nice work

[@waynecupp4381]

Matt if the vehicle is stuck, what is an extra 5 minutes to walk around?

[@MadMatt4WD]

If you can get it out quick it can save a lot more water getting inside. It’s surprising how long it takes for the inside to become flooded.

[@waynecupp4381]

Thank you. I didn't think of that.

[@GregPalmer2]

Nice recovery young felah, l am sure if the young felah didn't have a winch or you beside him he wouldn't of attempted it. like most of us number one 4x4 drivers we look at the risks

[@MadMatt4WD]

I’m sure I get myself into trouble sometimes due to overconfidence.

[@3rdpig]

We've all done similar stuff, I know I have. With one exception you handled it fine, and that exception is walking through a deep, muddy puddle in bare feet. I cringed when I saw that because I've seen other people do it and step on something that ripped their feet up. Funny, the winch line thing didn't bother me at all, but the bare feet made me cringe. lol

[@MadMatt4WD]

I have a bad habit of liking thongs. (Flip flops)

[@OTPpride]

That’s a really nice colour that Toyota

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yeah i agree. He just had it fully respayed

[@luciorob9936]

You’re pretty good on your feet. I would have probably slipped and got all muddy.

[@MadMatt4WD]

It sure was slippery

[@shroom903]

Since you have a wired remote the driver should be running the winch and never turn off the engine as long as it's running and the intake is above the water

[@stuartkcalvin]

03:40 never start a diesel with the tail pipe in water. The compression ratio will just suck in water. Petrols Ok.

[@MadMatt4WD]

This is petrol. I’m not sure about the rest of your comment. I’m a diesel mechanic by trade.

[@andrewrobinson2869]

So your son gets a car dry clean complements off DAD . Nice one.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Lol no

[@SuperAWaC]

It's just bizarre that you don't have the lockers on. I've never heard of anyone doing that before.

[@MadMatt4WD]

It’s so that if there is mud or such in there I don’t get into it as far before I know. Then I can put the lockers in reverse out and reassess. It’s better than putting all my eggs in the basket first go. If it’s decided that the hole is drivable then lockers on and go for it.

[@SuperAWaC]

@@MadMatt4WD I guess so. I just probe the hole with an 20' fiberglass extending pole I made from a tree branch lopper that I keep on my roof rack. then send it lockers on.

[@MadMatt4WD]

If I had walked it or used a stick I too would locker on and send it.

[@stuartkcalvin]

Never step over an active line - one end connected to another end. It might look loose and flaccid, but they can snap up without a sound.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Did you watch to the end

[@cliffbooth7075]

Mistakes happen & we all learn from them. Diff locks should be engaged beforehand, not after you get stuck in a bog hole, and another important one is don’t try & drive bog holes like that alone, or this will happen to you pretty early on in the piece. Cleaning the inside of that car out properly would’ve been such a p.i.t.a. Plus one for petrol Toyota 4wds - most reliable fourby’s in the country. Nice video, it was well shot & well commentated through.

[@MadMatt4WD]

The reason I don’t have the lockers in is it means you don’t drive into the problem as far and if you do stop forward movement you can put them on to drive back. Works most of the time.

[@brentmcd12]

haha the thumbnail is hilarious by it's self .. okay let's see this lol

[@MadMatt4WD]

Lol.

[@brentmcd12]

oh yeah momentum initally that big rut in the middle got him + backand forth full sends got me out . but stuffed everything filling up with mud water

[@brentmcd12]

okay this water level at the rear now is concerning if u got diff breathers up the side

[@brentmcd12]

yeah the 2nd point really should of been the first one . hard to know in a situation like that

[@brentmcd12]

yep good recovery well said at the end

[@Russianmafia10]

At least you were able to drive home

[@oneofakind7209]

You should have winch up on bullbar ready and hand control ready in cab before going 4 wheeler in mud all time would of been quicker and easier to get out

[@MadMatt4WD]

Totally agree

[@fraternityofendlessprofits1834]

I have been in this exact situation. although my car didn't survive. My name is Chris and I'm from the South Coast although this happened to myself and 3 of my friends who were in the car with me., in Menai Sydney. There are 4WD tracks off heathcote road and we use to 4WD them all the time. But I had a 100 series Landcruiser and it was petrol with no snorkel, the car was completely stock, but could do nearly anything. One day I drove nearly the whole track and smashed all puddles, until I came to this really big one and, I didnt even both to check, I think we checked with a F***** stick, clearly our intuition knew it was too deep haha. I came up a small hill and down into the puddle and accelerated into the puddle, which was my second mistake, and water came over the bow of the bonnet and all I heard is a pop and engine stalled. We all sat there in shock for around 30 seconds, and then water started creeping into the car and my mate said 'Hey Chris, water is getting into the car'. I Instantly reacted after with what he said, and ran to the back of the car from the inside to try and open the boot, but for some reason I couldn't open the door, then I remember jumping out of the window and climbing the roof to the back of the car and opened the boot and let the boys out. The car was completely flooded with mud water, and real the chocolate stuff. A Navara came and pulled us out and the car was never the same. We tried rebuilding it but it crushed me, and it sort of scarred me. But all is good, I ended up buying a Ford Maverick which was absolute complete dog shit. But it was a great car in its own right although the way it was built it was a bomb, I was like it would be very hard to buy another patrol and the reason I say that is because less than 2 weeks ago I bought a 80 series turbo diesel Landcruiser and the thing is a fucking weapon. Anyway I thought I should the story since you mentioned to share and I know exactly how it feels. Thanks for reading.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Oh Wow dude that sucks bad. Thanks for sharing your story.

[@tpv59]

I thought the Ford Maverick was EXACTLY the SAME as the Nissan patrol, but just rebadged. Am I wrong??? Thank You.

[@fraternityofendlessprofits1834]

@@tpv59 yeah it is,

[@tpv59]

@@fraternityofendlessprofits1834 So, If I may ask, are you saying the Nissan Patrol is absolute of dog krapp also???? (I thought they were GREAT 4WD's) MANY Thanks.

[@fraternityofendlessprofits1834]

@@tpv59 don't get me wrong they're not bad, but compared to the 80 series it's a whole new game. Like my set-up on my maverick/ I.e. gu was the similar set-up to what I have now on the 80 and its like you can't compare. The landcruiser is in a whole new class. I'm not biast. I like both cars but after experiencing the 80 I ain't going back to the patrol.

[@Videosofrandomstuff2]

At least it’s still shiny 😍

[@MadMatt4WD]

😂😂🥰🥰

[@aarongillan5092]

Look good feel good? The gearbox doesn't feel too good now though hahaha, i guess water does that to gearboxs

[@MadMatt4WD]

@@aarongillan5092 Mud sucks. Like gravity

[@bluegizmo1983]

It's not a mistake! The truck just wanted to take an unexpected bath! 🤣

[@MadMatt4WD]

😂😂😂😂 I like you

[@DKingXJ]

Every situation is an opportunity to learn and or teach. If we never got ourselves into bad situations, well I guess they'd build a monument to the World's Perfect Man (or woman). It happens, part of being out there vs sitting on the couch all day. You handled it just fine and if that had been your rig rather than your sons I'd wager you wouldn't have been the least bit flustered. That added pressure as a parent to "protect" our children was the unforeseen in this scenario. Overall, well played Sir.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yeah it certainly upset me when I felt responsible for it. But Aaron didn’t ever blame me he said. Dad I was driving it was my call. You may enjoy the video where my other son rolled his 80 series. Search rolled on my channel.

[@soundslikeaplan841]

no way your near big red!!!! you wouldn't believe I just helped a mate out who incredibly stuck there and flooded his GU

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yeah we were trying to find it. Was it a red patrol

[@munsami1990]

You good brother

[@MadMatt4WD]

🙏

[@kadmow]

Another potential issue - ??give the driver the winch controller - better than dropping it in the mud, or slipping on your ass trying to manage too many different things..... (drivers should be in control of their own vehicle - clutch release means the "rigger" is safe - until the clutch is reengaged)..

[@MadMatt4WD]

I agree. Not sure why I didn’t. Too much going on in my head I suspect.

[@J-P88]

Huh, a Petrol Surviving Water, on the Interwebs especially Australian Interwebs or Socials, the Petrol should of died the minute water was in sight

[@032254855]

had a xd falcon ute years ago went through a small puddle not even ankle deep killed the motor took about 40min before it dried out enough to go again. Also had a jeep wrangler with the 4l straight 6 in it that was like a little submarine loved the water

[@bquade70]

@@032254855 goes to show....

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yeah so many in Oz think it has to be diesel to do any wheeling.

[@J-P88]

@@MadMatt4WD they go off the "TDs have better low end torque" but forget Gearing can help in that Situation. I have 4.44 Diff ratios and the old Girl Putts around in 2nd gear low range pretty well

[@Land_Raver]

These toyotas just aren't great offroad. I recover a ton of them. The owners really overestimate their ability and it gets them in trouble. Always know the depth.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Ha ha ha. You’re just here to cause trouble aren’t you. 🤪🤪🤪

[@Land_Raver]

@@MadMatt4WD Nailed it!

[@Land_Raver]

Just found the source for all the comments on my videos of "never pull from a ball and you should use a snatch strap and have you ever heard of Yankum ropes".

[@MadMatt4WD]

I’ve used the factor 55 ropes yes useing a tow ball or even the welded hitch for recovery is dangerous.

[@Land_Raver]

@@MadMatt4WD I've fished a lot of cars out of water over the years. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIK1i4GmgLx1gtU

[@ausguy4385]

LOL the camara person should have walked it.. 🤣

[@MadMatt4WD]

Mrs MadMatt was not having a bar of that idea. I was navi so I should have walked it. 😁😁

[@PrimalTimbo]

One of the best mods I made is having the winch controller point inside my car.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yes

[@SuperSummit123]

I don't think what you did was wrong I was worried about an alligator biting your leg off since you're down under you know.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Ha ha. No alligators in this part.

[@glennj6465]

Great video again Matt But …….. PUT SOME SHOES 👠 ON 😱

[@MadMatt4WD]

😂😂😂 probably won’t but I understand where you’re coming from.

[@stugryffin3619]

Jesus the stress

[@MadMatt4WD]

🥰

[@stevegoodwin5841]

You made best of a bad situation.

[@MadMatt4WD]

I think so

[@bradwatson8763]

Lol gold.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Lol

[@wokbok43]

Hey Mad Matt---> I only commented do I get a heart for that ?

[@MadMatt4WD]

Everyone get a heart here. ❤️❤️

[@raymondricciardi]

@@MadMatt4WD The Oprah Winfrey of 4WD You Tube vid comments: "you get a heart, you get a heart, everyone gets a heart!".

[@MadMatt4WD]

😂😂😂

[@neilodonnell4072]

😀👍

[@scroungasworkshop4663]

You haven’t been really four wheel driving unless you’ve filled you car with water at least once. 😂😂😂😂

[@Patrolinaus]

COMEEE ON NAVVIIIII

[@MadMatt4WD]

Lol. He was scraping the bottom of the barrel.

[@Patrolinaus]

@@MadMatt4WD haha good work getting out as fast as possible!

[@operation4wheelz]

Yeah that sucks… easy way to write off a truck too 🤦‍♂️

[@MadMatt4WD]

😩