Huge New Windows 11 Requirement Change

[@ZachsTechTurf]

Not sure if this will end up being a good or bad thing tbh…

[@CoolhALAW2]

Good prolly, idk

[@AgentXero2]

I use windows 12 on my Ryzen 4070 PC

[@Ethanathan213]

There's only one way to find out😭🙆‍♂️

[@Louierobot]

I’m hoping it’s good I just built an ultra budget pc for my younger brother and it didn’t have the requirements for windows 11 and this could be perfect timing (Do you know when this is actually being released?)

[@littlemunchkin_Drawing]

It will probably be something good

[@cocolasticot9027]

61% still on win10 ? Feels good not to be alone

[@buttergolem8584]

Declined the update to Win 10 yesterday again. I'll hold on to it to the last moment.

[@nevanfr]

I'm still on windows xp because... No Real reason

[@unseededgamer3770]

11 is okay but 10 has something that always makes us love it.I will never gonna change it.Its the best.

[@TheAyanamiRei]

10 works well unlike 11

[@zues121510]

​@@buttergolem8584 you still on 7/8??

[@MegaTrevornant]

I saw online that if you rollback from 11 to 10, you have to do a clean install meaning all of your data gets reset if you don’t have an external backup, so be careful and do your research before doing anything

[@vineetstech.]

Thank you king for this huge information ❤

[@ultramasterultra5724]

Who is doing that anyways

[@vineetstech.]

@@ultramasterultra5724 true i am still on 10

[@DasComrade]

I’ve updated to win11 then rolled back without losing any data, infact i gained CoPilot (this was like a year ago though)

[@raanans.a8992]

No, this does not happen. My PC has auto updated to windows 11 3-4 times and each time rollback to windows 10 took like 30 mins but no data was lost or apps were changed. Kinda irritating how I had to add a registry key to prevent my pc from auto installing windows 11…

[@EyemachineStudios]

There's a way to get around this and not be charged every year for security updates, it's called Windows 10 IoT LTSC 2021. This version of Windows 10 will receive security updates untill 2032. 1 year after Windows 11's end of life

[@raanans.a8992]

Yeah it’s a great way to continue using windows 10. Although you will require a script if you want to use Microsoft store to play Xbox game pass games as ltsc does not have Microsoft store

[@ukoi9534]

I'm curious to hear why would someone choose this over simply upgrading to win11 if not for stubbornness or dumb shit like valorant disliking tpm 2

[@duiwu3684]

@@ukoi9534 some people dont like 11.

[@ukoi9534]

@duiwu3684 because they tried it or because they heard someone else telling them to not like it?

[@Foxikaze]

@@ukoi9534 As someone who upgraded to Windows 11, it’s absolutely awful and I don’t blame people for wanting to stay on Windows 10

[@notCAMD]

You can flash the ISO Using Rufus to make it not require TPM 2.0

[@goodcop8671]

most underrated method, we always do it on workstations

[@TheAntinity]

same ​@goodcop8671

[@7MBoosted]

Zach, this news story is false. Microsoft is still enforcing tpm 2.0 and its other hardware restrictions for Windows 11. The PCWorld article incorrectly cites a Microsoft support document from the 21H2 era. If someone attempts to install on or upgrade unsupported hardware the installer will still fail, citing unsupported hardware as the reason for it failing.

[@HASH-GAMES21]

nope the article states it 10 december 2024

[@7MBoosted]

@HASH-GAMES21 can you produce official Microsoft documentation stating it is allowing installs on older hardware? Because all of the research is have done shows no official information from Microsoft changing course. Because I can cite a Windows central article from yesterday, and about half a dozen other articles from the past week that assert that PCWorld misquoted old Microsoft support threads and Microsoft is in fact not allowing direct installation on older hardware. I'd be happy if MS changes course as I have a lot of old hardware, but I don't think they are changing their minds.

[@justinmckee2256]

@@7MBoostedI personally installed windows 11 on a TPM 1.3 PC the other day. I’ve since downgraded to be able to play valorant but it worked no issues

[@AahilAbdulMajeed]

Well there ain't any instability of Window 11 on my laptop even though it doesn't meet the cpu requirement. If they removed TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot we would be able to upgrade

[@luigi55125]

Just finished a pc build yesterday. 11 iso said it was incompatible. Did the bypass key thing to get in.

[@SlickCB]

We need a budget build guide with the intel b580

[@RobIoxNoob]

I did one for 1053 USD on Amazon ksa market

[@Homesandfamiliesanhilator5000]

They will restock in early January i think

[@ChaseMC215]

Except they aren't. That was a misconception, they're still doubling down on the TPM 2.0 requirement, which is gonna be impossible since many people either don't have that in their motherboard, cannot afford a motherboard with it built in, or cannot afford a new computer entirely JUST to upgrade to Windows 11. At best what Microsofr should be doing is removing the TPM 2.0 requirement and make Secure Boot be the only thing mandatory, with TPM 2.0 being optional, since not alot of people have that on their motherboards.

[@LamaMare-nx2mq]

Rufus:"Am i a joke to you" (You can check a box so you can install an os without meeting the requirements)

[@Triaxx2]

Wait, what's the 13th Apostle have to do with Win 11? Other than needing someone to pray to so it works.

[@LamaMare-nx2mq]

Rufus the software to flash bootable drives not the person​@@Triaxx2

[@therealzhenplaz200]

@@Triaxx2the program rufus

[@JBLightning.]

Windows 10 is what I’m staying with forever. It’s such a clean design simple easy to navigate. When you swipe left and down you always get the windows menu.

[@techsimplified24]

Just because of this pricing scheme and the inability to use a TPM on a laptop (no PC at home), I shifted to Linux. gave more power than what my system was on Windows. Being a tech-savvy user, I had no problem using it despite the application compatibility problems. Using an HP Probook 4540s with an i3, 8GB RAM and 500GB HDD. And what's more tempting, its free and cool!

[@CARTUNE.]

Come to Linux my friends, the water is warm.

[@Alacritous]

Linux is still a joke. It's like telling people to just build their own house. And I say this having 3 server machines running Debian, Ubuntu and Raspbian on my server rack.

[@thishandleisntavaiIable]

have fun writing much code for a single Firefox browser

[@mememan5466]

​@@thishandleisntavaiIable you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. There are plenty of linux distros that are just as user friendly as windows. The linux snobs might call them bloated but fuck 'em

[@chucklesdeclown8819]

​@@thishandleisntavaiIableFirefox was literally preinstalled as my default browser on my Linux machine, what are you talking about

[@chucklesdeclown8819]

​@@Alacritousas someone who just started using Linux I don't know if "joke" is the right word but it's definitely not there yet.

[@twofifty7704]

Charging for security updates is crazy. Windows 11 still has weird issues and old programs that don't run well. Going to stick with windows 10 for now and move to 11 when they release windows 12.

[@null384]

>old programs that don't run well name one

[@liar2]

This isn't crazy. If you want security updates for an EoL product, you can pay for them or just go without updates. The product won't stop working, but new vulnerabilities won't be patched. This is already done in enterprise environments and is now an option for end users

[@fraskf6765]

​@@null384many ubisoft games like the assasins creed series seem to have problems with the recent win 11 version

[@luckymoitra2929]

Yeah Microsoft always say that they are abandoning a windows version only to give it more updates a few months later.

[@quarez8181]

The only reason why windows 11 is so high in usage is likely the recent laptops,even the low end ones have win11

[@frohenleid]

Which is the same reason win 10 was so popular. It came Preinstalled.

[@narikane]

And my midrange pc doesn’t meet the hardware requirements 🤣

[@blazechaos212]

​@@narikanetime to buy a new one!

[@jhoanzus3578]

@@narikane my high end i7 7850HQ doesnt support windows 11 but a 2 core pentium gold that struggles doing plain existance does, how possible, my i7 has ptm 2.0 too, there is no reason to leave behind 6th and 7th gen of high end intel machines

[@T3chIdiot]

I updated to 11, all my older games (some released on 7 and) immediately stopped working. Rolled back to 10 in a heartbeat. They can take 10 from my cold dead hands 😭 🙏

[@frohenleid]

They aren't taking it. You can use it just like XP if you want. No problem. Just practice basic Internet safety.

[@T3chIdiot]

@@frohenleid fair point

[@somewhereinchicago8743]

couldn't get audio working, said no chip or something, rolled back to 10 no problems, ill wait till the end then ill worry

[@joemamr710]

You probably just needed to check your drivers. I would generally avoid upgrading windows and just do a clean install, but even with an upgrade you just need to make sure every device in your PC has loaded a correct driver.

[@ref692]

Tried installing windows 11 recently on my 2019 PC that had some sort of intel in a LGA 1200 socket. Made me enable secure boot then it completely borked the board and i've had to wait 4 weeks to get a new one in. Thanks microsoft

[@AlexandreDuarteDM]

Wow. Hope you're going well with your new build. Secure Boot is also broken on my PC (had to deactivate after Win11 install, due to violation bug = weird) 👍🏻🙄

[@sami_got_vibes]

Lmao bro mines still an i5 9600k, guessing win 11 wont even work on my pc let alone use it in the first place.

[@UKsystems]

The Windows registry could be changed by the custom and still, but I don’t know what the licensing would be on sharing this installer as that would be a really easy way to allow people to do it

[@MegaBat91]

I have all the requirements met, im still staying with windows 10. That is until windows 11 does something worthwhile to earn the upgrade.

[@hellgrn]

That was a rumor, the support article is from 2021. Microsoft already reacted to this rumor and denied that it changed anything for the requirements. The support page is just there for the people who still make it work on old hardware unofficially like you mentioned in the start.

[@goats4life323]

Bruh I just wanna play dumb video games 😭

[@SurvivalistGamer96]

Thats where Rufus come in hand

[@notCAMD]

You don't have to be a "nerd" to just follow a KZbin guide

[@Fazalbkb]

you have to be at least a little bit

[@UmbraSpook55]

Yeah, the rolling back function sounds nice (ON PAPER!!). I remember, how I wanted to roll back from Windows 8 to 7 and after 1.5 hours on my old af PC, all I got was a blank screen, after Windows 7 booting up normally (bootscreen).

[@ItsHonski]

TPM 2.0 is not a requirement, its a recommendation. Windows 11 will happily install on anything down to TPM 1.2

[@iDontProgramInCpp]

If I remember correctly, it used to be 30 days if you upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Why did that change?

[@Xiellion]

"Super nerd" literally changing a 1 to a 0

[@CEOofUranus]

You'll be surprised of how much people its hard to follow the instructions

[@willy8067]

You'd be surprised that a lot user even dont know ctrl c+v

[@_DeathDreams_]

Try to instruct a mom (or any layperson) on how to do that, without just doing it yourself, and then come back here

[@starkdroid8701]

Hey zach, love your vids man, just one lil question, why cant windows just stay on the same gen amd keep upgrading or updating it over time? Like just stay in win11 and keep inproving it?

[@torimask6282]

I got a 2060 super for 120$ used. Crazy deal in my opinion. Edit: I mistyped it, I meant to put PLN instead of dollars.

[@doby8544]

not crazy, but pretty good

[@enricogiunchi7171]

I got One for 150 a few monts back, yes, a very good deal, there are no GPUs in that price range that offers the same performance, 5700xt costs at least 170, and Is not much faster, and the weaker 6600 costs around 180 too

[@veracrypt1594]

Nah you could get them used for $112 in my country, pretty easy 😅 Not a dealbreaker, look at the GTX Titan Xp for around 150, or the RX Vega 56 for less than $69, they pack some INSANE value right now, just not everyone are willing to use one

[@Obito_The_Simp]

nah , not that good of a price, also u need something stronger , if u wanna do something more than 1080p medium, and this card will become a 1080p lowest settings card in a few months, with how ue5 is.

[@phoenix.z0]

Not a crazy deal, thats the normal used price

[@shadowjezzter]

I still prefer 10s layout and system. I have 10 at home but work forced me into 11 at my station. My home pc feels so much nicer.

[@Adrianbjornebo]

I had Windows 11 without tpm 2.0 enabled so I couldn’t update Windows for a year and suddenly I had very bad internet connection so I figured out how to enable tpm 2.0 and updated windows and now my internet connection is way better

[@U.S_Drifter]

I had 8.1 in 2022, it said I couldn’t upgrade to 10. Tried upgrading with a USB, but it rejected it. Then I tried with a CD with the ISO, and it worked.

[@MeraMadness]

Windows 11 works just fine on my old i7 6700k, but I'm still going to use Linux as always

[@rogan_]

Guys, just install the LTSC IoT versions of Win10/Win11, no TPM, and decades of security updates.

[@YunoDoggy]

will it give better performance in online games?

[@ashaihimoto]

Good for me I just upgraded to a Ryzen 5 5600x and a RTX 3050 6gb (💀)

[@BepisMogus]

Why TF would you waste money on a 3050 6gb

[@user404-notfound]

You could have gone for rx6600xt

[@mrdinosaurproductions9507]

Not an upgrade on the gpu side big dawg

[@LordTrashcanRulez]

Refund that GPU ASAP and get a 2080 ti/super or something

[@ashaihimoto]

Just to make It clear the 3050 6gb was my only option In my country the RX 6600 costs about 350 dollars and I can't buy anything used from my country's market and the 3050 I bought for 200 dollars was a great deal In my country and my PC In my country Is now considered high end us don't have good or used options where we live

[@Turbo_orca25]

I’ve been on windows 11 on my ryzen 7 1700 pc since 2021, its stuck on 21H2 but i don’t want ai integration, so its fine. For 3 years no issues whatsoever

[@Mkjeep-k6j]

I’m just too lazy to reset my pc to get secure boot turned back on

[@samuelsilvestrin4366]

The Major issue with the tpm 2.0 bypass is playing tpm 2.0 dependent games without it, like riot games and some other

[@ADobbin1]

You could completely avoid the problem by going linux.

[@Dogmanofthewest]

Linux is nice, but hardly anything supports it. I had Linux for a long time before I just gave up on it because most games and softwares wouldn’t work with it

[@andylarson6877]

That last bit was good to hear

[@luay5503]

If I'm not using Windows 10 I'm not using Windows

[@amadeoHol]

I have tpm 2.0,but my cpu is not supported. Will I get instability issues if I upgrade?

[@Bee-f1r]

The crap people do and put up with instead of using linux...

[@Username5H0]

I bought a very low spec laptop specifically because I wanted to stay on Windows 10 for school. Still using it, and no plans to upgrade.

[@JoeyScripts]

LTSC is the way. Windows 10 has another 6-7 years with the LTSC version.

[@alastor--radiodemon7556]

You've always been able to rollback versions in the first weeks, windows 10 and 8 also had that 7 and vista might've also

[@crispy9175]

Windows 11 is complete garbage. I'll be staying on the slightly less shitty Windows 10 until I finally migrate my entire house to Linux.

[@jandys6328]

Really looking forward SteamOS, but wonder how will it do in other things then gaming

[@Zerone2007]

In desktop mode, everything that another Linux can also do.

[@SlushiePlayer]

Microsoft wanted to make users use windows 11 instead of 10, but this whole time, they could have just supported older hardware, to bring more users.

[@Gatito_triste-011]

Stability issues? I installed Win11 almost a year ago on an 12 yr old Pentium and I've never had any problem with the performance or the system itself.

[@charging_station2]

what happens if I don't want the security updates? is there any actual threat to a regular user? or does it all mean that I just won't be getting the annoying windows updates after new year?

[@csanabria1275]

It works perfectly fine. No problems on an 12 years old pc. I was able to bypass TMP and online setup. I completely bypass everything and installed like a regular Windows installation. I didn't need it to register an account online, I did some tweaking and disabled tracking software and a bunch of useless services. Is actually a very fast Operating System. I will recommend a 2.0Gh CPU 8Gb of Ram 1Gb GPU and 250GB Solid State Drive. You can use a regular hard drive but it might run a bit slow. I have it installed in 3 system and it runs fine on all 3 the minimal I have it running is 1.6Gh CPU 1Gb GPU and 250Gb Hard drive. The most is a 12 years old 8 core 4.0Gh CPU 32GB Ram 8Gb GPU and 500Gb SSD OS with 8Tb Hard Drive Storage, Runs perfectly fine no lag or problems. In my point of view they were trying to trash old hardware because there is too many old PCs running perfectly fine and hardware are not being updated as it used to creating Lost on profits on new hardware. Also hardware has hit its maximum. The only things upgraded on older PCs in GPUs and Storage / SSD. There is not more to it on OS but only security update and some new GUI Upgrades/ Downgrade. In simple terms hardware is too fast compared to Operating system. This is why Microsoft was trying to trash older PC to make you buy something you don't need, but they lost.

[@locutiss100]

What a mess this has created. Sometimes this works, sometimes something else works, sometimes nothing works. These are definitely the worst times to working with Windows. Been using Microsoft since Windows 98. Oh things were so simple then. Install on anything and it just worked. 😢

[@michaelm8624]

It is actually a good thing that Microsoft requires TPM 2.0 It is just more secure. Even my 2014 laptop has gotten TPM 2.0 via BIOS update

[@InfiniteSciences]

If Microsoft says that you'll face instability issues if installed on older hardware, then how is it that a brand-new laptop (2023 Dell G15) with pretty high-end specs (i7 13650hx and RTX 4050 with 16GB RAM) still stutter in Windows 11?

[@gamer8622]

Linux has been sounding real fire these days

[@MarkAnthony22-g2x]

Remember the time when upgrading to windows 10 from 7 was wished by people who had low end pcs, now Microsoft has to push people on the new windows. This really tells you how perfect the 10 was.

[@codewithzi-5817]

Bro... our MRT Trains still using Win10 to operate each train 😂

[@seraphin01]

I have TPM 2.0 but my cpu is a 7700k and apparently that's not good enough for Microsoft because I still don't have the option to upgrade.. They can shove it up theirs..

[@ghostgamerpro156]

Brother the 11 even isn't stable yet they need to give it a time, my thinking would be that wait to see what happens when they push this kind of update.

[@bbggakkba]

I'm happy to upgrade. But my pc just isn't outdated enough to justify an upgrade. It's silly they've required this tpm module. A 6700k is still a perfectly good and usable CPU.

[@szonmcmiszon557]

Yep. I was on W11 with Intel core i7 3770k. Had many bluescreens but i think that it was more beacouse on gpu. Problems started when i changed from gtx1060 to gtx1070.

[@jeremyswift3076]

hey zach ive been a fan for over a year i need help with a parts selection i have a 1070 fe and core i7 4790 i was wondering if i could have some parts you dont need right now have good day.

[@BrandonLipari-b9v]

Just give everyone an upgrade to their system. They won't want to pay for it but it will be necessary if they want us to use the product

[@flopppaaaa]

Hello what cpu should i buy for an rtx 3050 8gb?

[@jaspertupaz7063]

The only option is to upgrade pc because when you disabling TMP on Windows 11 it will surely not be stable also risky

[@justachannelname]

Well time to jump ship to appel on a Mac mini, I tried 11 it sucks and with 10 going bye bye and my main pc not supported looks like I have no choice

[@FlintG]

Yup I might do the same and go with the m4 Mac mini. I have a PC with windows 11 and Linux Mint on two drives. But so far I am liking Mac more.

[@adokapo]

It works like shit on old pcs with unsupported hardware. It seems like drivers arent fully compatible. I had just ton of bugs on old computers. Worked like charm on pcs that still get driver updates. Linux is so good for old computers.

[@Mikropitsagg]

What are the oem gpu’s, such as hp oem rtx 3080? Do they perform worse than regular?

[@mrdinosaurproductions9507]

They perform similarly if not better due to factory overclocks. Just a heads up, if you get a 3080, get it used, not new

[@easydata99]

I think the majority won't switch to 11 and that will lead Microsoft to extend the suport for another year or two

[@silverwolf5643]

I'm financially broke, do Microsoft and game dev expects me to buy a new PC/hardware and upgrade constantly ? I'll take the instability any time

[@Leverquin]

Try Linux Mint

[@Burgerklauer]

You guys remember when they said windows 10 would be the last one ever?

[@spawnnumber2126]

I remember my school has laptop that are somehow running windows 11 despite the fact that the CPUs in them are unsupported...

[@TGFTTGFFGTTRUEFHROWHEF]

Linux is smiling 👾👽⚡

[@RealRajatShahare]

Already moved to Linux.

[@okavangobilly]

Hey Zach can you rate my pc part picker list day 1

[@jpuc5568]

Remember when people said 10 was the last windows

[@RickDangerousNL]

My hardware is more than capable of running Win11. I just don't have a TPM module installed. and I'm not really waiting for their spyware copilot stuff either.

[@m00rlot18]

I have this chip and I still had to write commands to pass those checks 👌

[@Dexter.Andersson]

Zach, should i get the intel b580 or the rtx 4070 super for 1440p gaming?

[@gmoney_4261]

4070 super 💀

[@Dexter.Andersson]

@gmoney_4261 what's wrong with that?

[@gmoney_4261]

@Dexter.Andersson nothing the b580 is a great card but is only 10% better than the 4060. Get the 4070 super

[@Dexter.Andersson]

@@gmoney_4261 I mean considering that the b580 is 250 dollars and the 4070 Super is 800, and I've seen benchmarks and it gets over 100fps on 1440p in games like apex legends and Fortnite. Unless they are just lies.

[@LordTrashcanRulez]

FPS per dollar is WAY better with the b580, even if you have money to spare it never hurts to save money for future builds. Ignore the 4070 and get the B580.

[@Ismayamelasranaid]

Rufus : you late..

[@chaseandbolt]

ive heard good things about tiny 11 its like windows 11 without all the clutter and can even run on a potato pc

[@Galax2000]

Most pcs past 2014 have tpm and thus supported. Doing such requirments is a crime simple

[@Zallexia]

Zach i just snagged a Ryzen 5 5500 Brand New for $70. Did i make the right choice?

[@jujhar.]

Nice! You could combo that with a RX 6600

[@RAFISHAKIMAHI]

I'm using windows 11 since 2022 on a laptop from 2015 with a i7 5500U and I never had a compatibility issues or anything with security update

[@CaitiffFTW]

I have a laptop with a 7th gen i5 and a Gtx 1050. Honestly, I was considering installing Batocera on it.

[@bkroberts89]

The bypasses work, but if you’re gaming some games are requiring TPM 2.0. So if you’re running something that doesn’t support it you’re screwed. League of Legends, a game that can run on a MacBook, can’t run on one of my setups running a gtx1080 ti. It’s so dumb. I blame bitlocker.

[@JohanlastZa]

As I can still update Windows 7, I am not afraid of Oct 2025. Someone even made it possible to update Windows XP if you want, if you really really want. Microsoft should read the room: never tell your consumers or else.

[@fraskf6765]

What? How can you update win 7?

[@JohanlastZa]

You Google Windows Uodater, 32 or 64 biy. Then downlaod the ine youbwant feom Microsoft's website. Reboot and then go to Windows update from within Windows and tell it to go look for updates it should download any update still missing from your system..​@@fraskf6765

[@JohanlastZa]

@@fraskf6765 Download KB3102810, 32 or 64 bit version depending on your version you have. After installation and rebooting, you can go ahead and go to Windows 7 update inside Windows and tell it to update. You most likely will have to update a few times to get all the available updates.

[@JacktheRah]

I’d go back to Windows 7 if I could. At least there when searching for a file you’d actually find it.

[@HalcyonVoid]

Number one complaint for me. Searching by direct name and fucking cortana can't find shit...

[@LauraDlugonski-sj2xv]

Is a 3050 a good card if you don’t look at the price , because I sniped one for 130 on Amazon

[@GD_Default]

I use windows tiny 11 22H2 by Harbour of tech, It's super cool and smooth without widgets and bloats. Also, there's a tool to make a change on your tiny 11

[@christopheryow951]

Hell bring back windows 8.1. It was great compared to Windows 11 from what I’ve used. I really feel that window is 8.1 Is what Windows 11 should be now! In the meantime, I’m sticking with 10 until I get a new system

[@battledj2933]

Will we from now until October be spammed with w10 eol videos?

[@TravelerSaniar]

I actually installed windows 11 on my 11 year old unsupported laptop (asus n56jn) through registery edit and stuff and i haven't had any stability problem for the past 2 years. If anything, my laptop has been smoother and more stable. So if you hesitate to install win11 on unsupported systems, don't be. Just install it and i guarantee that nothing's gonna happen

[@frankjpf1014]

I still have a less than legal windows 10 installed on my pc that is not activated do you recommend trying to find a windows key for it or just buying windows again?

[@MJaccobFTW]

RTX 7800 XTX

[@electrothecat07]

Microsoft finally got tired of all the complaints

[@bot2k6]

I never tought I would pirate windows security updates

[@DanielJarvis-u8v]

Zach is it safe to buy windows 11 from those websites that sell them for like $30?

[@fourbypete]

The problem I have is my cpu still isn't supported even though the old PC works fine. I won't be upgrading it. I'll just disconnect from the internet because it doesn't need an internet connection. This PC will eventually be upgraded.