HUGE PROBLEM with Blackmagic PYXIS!

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Blackmagic Design has announced a new camera called the PYXIS.
Here are my thoughts on the BIG design oversight with this camera!
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@andynonimuss6298
@andynonimuss6298 5 ай бұрын
The Pyxis wasn't made for entry level run-n-gun users. The Pyxis is designed for sticks and shoulder work like a RED or an ARRI. If people want a flip-out screen and HDMI, they should buy a handycam. Even if the 4" screen flipped-out, I wouldn't use it. I'll be using the EVF and the 7" external. There's no need for built-in NDs, as most cinematographers already have screw-on NDs or a Matte Box with NDs. NiSi ATHENA PRIMEs even have a drop-in ND blade option. Built-in NDs would be too limiting or not used. The people complaining about the side screen and no built-in NDs are just painting themselves as handycam hobbyists not cinematographers making films.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
The purpose of any design is ease of use and clarity. With that in mind. If its designed for shoulder work than the display should be on the 1st AC side not on the operator side LIKE IT IS ON THE ARRI FYI. Considering that its a touch display it would be super easy to bump it with your ear or side of the face when shoulder mounted and change settings (which as I said is not ideal). For sticks it would still make sense to have a flip out or top display for easier control (not factoring in picture preview). Try leveling a camera on a tripod standing on the side. I don't care about HDMI necessarily but even Sony FX6 & FX9 have it and those are fully professional broadcast cameras used by professionals all the time. Hell even Sony Venice has an HDMI out and that is a fully professional cinema camera. Blackmagic is in the business of mainly Broadcast NOT cinema cameras FYI. As far as built in ND's I have yet to meet a cinematographer who complaints about having them built in. Yet, I know a ton of people who complain about cameras that DONT have them built in. Those built in ND's come in very handy in a pinch and even Alexa Mini, ARRI Amira, Sony Venice 2 and many other have them built in. ND's are expensive and most people who are looking at this camera probably don't have those laying around. A full set of Firecrest ND's which are very high quality will set you back $6500.00. The quality of built in ND's on an FX6 & FX9 is far better than Tiffen or Schneider by a MILE. Also, having variable electronic ND's comes with a ton of benefits especially when you need to go from outside to inside without changing your T-Stop. My 2 Cents.
@andynonimuss6298
@andynonimuss6298 5 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl Incorrect; there is a touch LOCK switch below the screen to keep from bumping it. Traditionally, the 1st AC worked on the left side of the camera. Blackmagic already explained in detail why they did not have a flip-out screen and built-in NDs. First off, they wanted to keep the price point down to 3K. Second, they said adding built-in NDs might not be used by cinematographers who already have matte boxes, screw-on NDs, and lenses with ND blades. Not having the built-in NDs allows for more choice and flexibility. Third, they said the EVF and 7" monitor were already viewing options over the 4" screen. They have also hinted at developing a control monitor. Fourth, they wanted to keep the form factor small, light and streamlined. Fifth, Dan May already hinted at more Pyxis models coming in 2025. Maybe they will do a flip-out screen and ND version in a future model, but that option would add to the cost. Overall, Blackmagic has stated the Pyxis is for those who want a solid starting point for getting into the world of cinematography. I already have a Pyxis L-mount on preorder through B&H.
@simplyheen1150
@simplyheen1150 5 ай бұрын
So... It's a camera for narrative films, not run 'n' gun nor documentary. Kinda what BMD has been doing though.
@ETFootprints
@ETFootprints 5 ай бұрын
Why bother getting a box camera if you're not ready to rig it? If people can't afford additional rig cost for box camera, maybe just get a normal form factor. Left side control is pretty good for shoulder rig except for left-handed folks, you're out of luck. What bothers me is lack of internal ND for its size. It's deal breaker.
@francisco_slade
@francisco_slade 5 ай бұрын
Right?
@twowheelslife5611
@twowheelslife5611 5 ай бұрын
I'm 100% with you on this. That hateful camera crippling that made Canon hated by many ppl back in the days (C70 aside, really great little camera with actually little caviats). My list of wishes for a future Pro model are the same as most of ppl let down by this first version (and I guess for a reason): - Tiltable screen - Faster sensor without that huge crop at only 50p - Double XLR - HDMI out (maybe this could have a walk around tho using the viewfinder port in the future) - More codecs codec codec! It's insane to think that you have to shoot everything and solely in Braw. Despite how great it can be is not the solution for every situation. And please don't tell me that this camera can't have other recording options because is though for filmmakers shooting indie movie or music videos.. That sounds like saying, my car has only last two gears because it's thought to be used on highways.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
Canon has some of the weirdest limitations I have ever seen. On C200 you can do 4K 8bit or 12bit RAW. Why they could not make it be able to do 10bit 4K is beyond me.
@twowheelslife5611
@twowheelslife5611 5 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl Indeed, and that's the reason I didn't end up buying one despite I really liked the form factor and the usability (that and the lack of SDI however..). It's sad that BM went a similar route as it could be otherwise an amazing, versatile piece of gear for lot of us.
@ojokbob333
@ojokbob333 6 ай бұрын
Just buy a monitor! Problem solved.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 6 ай бұрын
Again, why spend extra money when this could have been an easy add on!
@sdon510
@sdon510 6 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatldon’t you already have a monitor
@d_FLDE
@d_FLDE 6 ай бұрын
What is the point of a cheap camera if it is not usable. The 6k pocket pro is by far the best camera of the bm 6k series
@madedigital
@madedigital 6 ай бұрын
@@d_FLDE TRY MOUNTING IT ON A DRONE OR A GIMBAL OR A CAR...you find the box is king
@d_FLDE
@d_FLDE 6 ай бұрын
@@madedigital I own a Komodo-X and have the pocket 6k pro still as backup. Box is great. The pyxis is more heavy than the og pocket or cinema 6k. Which means you can not really use it on a rs3 pro or re 4 pro. Was boarderline on the old already. Side monitor is utter stupid. If you have the og 6k pro pocket on a gimbal, you do not need an external monitor, neither for most handheld shooting situations. No problems on using the of 6k pro on a gimbal like the rs3 pro (smallrig base plate ftw). 🤷🏼‍♂️. Still the same dc port that breaks easily. Box is nice. But this box is not
@DaveBeyTV
@DaveBeyTV 5 ай бұрын
Most box cameras don’t have a monitor at all. I don’t see this being a problem. Especially coming from a BGH1 shooter
@HakeemAlhakeemSA
@HakeemAlhakeemSA 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, exactly my thoughts when I saw the monitor fixed on the side! This reminds me of the BMPCC4k and BMPCC6k when first release and had to deal that battery not being enough for such a great camera.
@danielpathcreator
@danielpathcreator 6 ай бұрын
Just update to the new ursa, dude
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 6 ай бұрын
Already have one!
@mabitzz9484
@mabitzz9484 6 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl why complain then - this is exactly what the cine comunity wanted
@lincolnvue944
@lincolnvue944 5 ай бұрын
I don’t think people understand that the design is terrible. That you need to understand that you can’t really do much with the rigging. Yes, you can buy a monitor problem solved!! However, The display side is in the way and you can’t really do much but leave it open and that screen is a touch screen meaning you having the chances of accidental touch on the menu that can ruin your perfect shot. Honestly it’s a fair criticism and black magic needs to address. It doesn’t cost a lot to have a flip screen when the URSA have it and so many different type of cameras have a flip screen. Honestly it think a flip screen is cheap to add onto a feature add in another 5$ for a movable hinge just to have that flip screen feature. Like wtf? Make some sense and have usable features. It’s a massive miss. You can’t change the mount which it look like you can. Screen is in the way. It’s not good enough to be upgraded from a pocket 6k full frame or Pro with built in ND filter. Or from other new users that wants to upgrade to a cinema camera. It’s not good enough to be a new upgrade. It’s good for new users who wants a cine camera box. But you’re better off with different options available like AKA FX30, FX3, LUMIX S5 IIX with BRAW, pocket camera 6k G2/Pro/Full Frame, GH6, Z-Cam, LUMIX BS1H/BGH1, and more options I can think out of my head that I think it’s comparable and maybe even better design than Pyxis. I like the new direction that Black Magic is going but they need to address these design flaws. Buying more stuff isn’t problem solver when you can’t solve a problem that can’t be fixed.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
All great points! Agreed!
@andynonimuss6298
@andynonimuss6298 5 ай бұрын
Incorrect; there is a touch LOCK switch below the screen to keep from bumping it.
@angryrabbitproductions1690
@angryrabbitproductions1690 6 ай бұрын
Can’t see the point to this: • Same 5 year old 25ms rolling shutter sensor • No built in NDs • EVF not included ( add $1700) It’s an easy pass for me.
@bford1908
@bford1908 6 ай бұрын
What camera do you have right now that has an EVF?!
@d_FLDE
@d_FLDE 6 ай бұрын
@@bford1908 .. that was not the point, the pocket 6k pro though comes with evf
@antone9751
@antone9751 6 ай бұрын
You want it all for nothing. You know Arris was still limited to 2k sensors when every other manufacturer had 4K but people still shot Arri for the image quality? BMD image quality is ahead of most others at this price point.
@javiator3007
@javiator3007 6 ай бұрын
@@antone9751 I have a feeling it's less of people "wanting it all for nothing" but more like he said in the video, where it feels like BM products consistently take 2 steps forward and 1 step back. Like how the 6k gave us a tilting screen, and the 6k pro gave us internal NDs, but then the 6k full frame took away prores and the NDs. So now, the box camera is what people have been asking for ergonomically, but then we lose the screen articulation and still no NDs or prores. I have a feeling it's less of people having unreasonable expectations for the cost of something for the features it gives, but rather frustration from feeling like there's constantly this back-and-forth of innovation and regression in features for BM products.
@antone9751
@antone9751 6 ай бұрын
@@javiator3007 but no cine box style cameras have flip out screens. That’s what BMD have built here. Not a all in one camcorder. Sure, it ‘could’ve have had a flip out screen but box cameras don’t really need one and a flip out screen is a huge weak point for reliability as I’ve already mentioned. No matter what box camera you are buying, you need to buy a monitor to use it properly. Why do people expect Blackmagic to give them a large bright flip out screen when other box cameras costing much more don’t give you one? I’d love internal NDs too but which other full frame camera at anywhere near the price of the Pixys gives you internal NDs? A full frame filter wheel on a camera this size is near impossible to implement due to size and Sony so it via an electronic ND filter on the FX6 that costs much more than the Pixys. BTW, have you used an FX6? Despite the price you still need an external monitor and f you really want to see what you’re shooting. The included one is fine for navigating menus but that’s about it. I do agree that BMD have dropped the ball by eliminating 10Bit codecs like ProRes or DNx, this is simply ridiculous! Again, the Ursa Minis weakness has been its flip out screen. I know five different DP’s that won them and they have all had issues with the flip screen which has rendered their camera useless until it was sent in for repair. I’d rather not have this issue and use an external monitor. You can get BPU batteries with a dtap output to power the monitor with the cameras battery so you don’t need much if any extra rigging. Just chuck the monitor on the camera and go.
@KBlaze
@KBlaze 5 ай бұрын
Say the same thing to RED and ARRI
@daletidy.
@daletidy. 5 ай бұрын
The fixed display is a massive oversight along with many other bad design decisions. Totally agree with you
@Jaxplode
@Jaxplode 5 ай бұрын
Don‘t really understand why you focussing so much on a non movable display. What would be much more important are build in ND filters as you can find them in the 6K Pro.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
Fair enough! Also an oversight that is easy to fix.
@simplyheen1150
@simplyheen1150 5 ай бұрын
6K Pro is APS-C + EF mount, so yeah. Maybe in the future, there will be a PL/EF - L adapter with internal NDs.
@ArriOG-ve9tq
@ArriOG-ve9tq 5 ай бұрын
because the is a cinema camera, just like any red or arri camera ; and when you have such a camera, you obviously use monitor(s)
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
RED or ARRI don’t put a huge TOUCH screen on the side that is meant for PICTURE PREVIEW!
@hugomalpeyre
@hugomalpeyre 5 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl people don't use the preview screen on arri or red, they use external monitors
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
@@hugomalpeyre ARRI or RED (with the exception of Komodo) don’t have preview screens they have menu screens only.
@hugomalpeyre
@hugomalpeyre 5 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl i know but a cube is meant to be rigged up ya know.
@francisco_slade
@francisco_slade 5 ай бұрын
It's a funny thing how people were yapping for ages demanding a box camera from Blackmagic and saying how the Komodo is great, yadda, yadda. Then, when the box camera is released, they don't understand its purpose. I understand and agree that the battery life and the fixed monitor on the first BMPCCs are indeed caveats, problems - among many others. But it's not the case here. It's actually what the community was asking for. I have never seen anywhere people asking for "a BM box camera with a great flippable monitor that makes it not a fully riggable box camera". Again, I also don't see anyone complaining about the Komodo not having a monitor.
@SKYLIMI
@SKYLIMI 6 ай бұрын
why did they do it? Is it difficult to guess the answer? There will be new improvements from time to time and milking people for money you can't get everything at once.
@storageunit2683
@storageunit2683 6 ай бұрын
Usually when i film on sticks im always on the left side of the camera with an external monitor on that side plus a wireless system. But most of the time.... im never head on with the camera. I have better control. Some how someone will find a setup for the pyxis. I wouldnt get that just yet. Im still saving up for an ursa g2
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
URSA G2 for the win!
@billyoung9538
@billyoung9538 5 ай бұрын
I disagree. This video, like a few others, presumes that the purpose od the display is as a display, but given the interface it is an interface display that ALSO has preview ability. Lets face it if the display had only been for operating the Blackmagic OS UI that is praised be almost everyone as one ofthe best UI's around then people would have griped that it doesn't include a display for this price, and that would have been the negative argument. So instead they offed preview, because they can, and still people miss that this is the OS interface screen and NOT meant to be the primary display. The issue that I will agree with is that the ONLY two first party screen options are either the new $1695 viewfinder, which jacks the price up significantly, or the Video Assists at a much more reasonable $325-$795; however don't have camera control capability. Thus one is stuck with a third party SDI Portkeys monitor with camera control for $499 to $899. Now if one wants to go ultra budget Viltrox offers a relatively low resolution SDI monitor that would be compatible for only $160; however it would be really nice if Blackmagic made a USB or even SDI compatible High Bright screen without all the additional Video assist features, but that offered camera control for say under $300, but with that said the idea that this UI screen was a mistake in my opinion is a massive over reaction. This camera is an insane value for the style of camera it is, and for that target audience. The fact one CAN view the video on the side, to me, is just a bonus.
@madmixy3870
@madmixy3870 6 ай бұрын
i'm not trying to attack your questioning but don't all box camera have to have a external display? cause i honestly can not think of one that doesn't
@d_FLDE
@d_FLDE 6 ай бұрын
.. so you place it on the side where nobody will be able to see the menu as that is where they place their side handle
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 6 ай бұрын
There are always compromises when it comes to camera design. In most cases you are correct. When cameras are really small the trade off is having to get an additional display. However in this case they bolted a fairly big display on there and didn’t include a hinge. The point is that it could have been easily done, and they didn’t do it unfortunately! Thank you for a respectful comment!
@madmixy3870
@madmixy3870 5 ай бұрын
@@d_FLDE I understand what you're saying but i don't think this camera's side handle connects there, I could be wrong so don't quote me on that but i figure black magic was thinking of a tripod workflow with this camera, i really don't see it as a run and gun (which i guess makes more sense for the people looking for a run and gun box camera from them)
@madmixy3870
@madmixy3870 5 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl unlike the majority of people in here disagreeing with you i genuinely enjoy your content and just trying to understand your perspective on the situation and this really does make sense now you put it that way it was a unnecessary trade-off
@AaronStowers
@AaronStowers 5 ай бұрын
I have a question: how do you display an image on the Alexa? And if it's not a problem for the Alexa, why is it a problem for this camera?
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
Alexa has a display built in on the AC side (not operator side) for basic camera controls, not picture preview. Alexa Mini & Mini LF has a viewfinder that has an ARTICULATING display FYI. BM has historically been using its screen for camera control AND picture preview. Hence the problem is 2 fold: 1. Screen is on the wrong side for camera control (it should be on the AC side). That however can be mitigated by the BT app but it’s nevertheless a design flaw. 2. It’s difficult (to say the least) to preview the shot with the camera being on the side. I’m pointing out problems so that they can be addressed on the future editions of the product. People can buy whatever they want.
@AaronStowers
@AaronStowers 5 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl A 4" 1500 nit monitor is a flaw? I see it as a gift. There is no particular side of the camera for an AC. I was a 1st AC for 5 years, and I never once pulled focus on a specific side, let alone used a monitor to pull focus. As for Arri cameras, you need an EVF or external monitor for all of them. I have been in the filmmaking business for 28 years, and some videos I watch on KZbin have me wishing that these companies should make cameras at the 20k margin to weed some of these so-called filmmakers out of business.
@ShiningJMaster
@ShiningJMaster 5 ай бұрын
The issues with this class of cameras from BMD are 1) 13 steps dynamic range is too narrow 2) rolling shutter to much visible when swiping 3) low light noise. I'd happily pay a grand more to have better full frame sensor or a S35 global shutter in a boxy form factor. Until then I won't invest in the BMD ecosystem.
@johnwaldmann5222
@johnwaldmann5222 6 ай бұрын
The solution is to disassemble the camera, and remote Mount the display elsewhere on your rig. You will need a skilled technician to cable it out, and a 3D printer to protect the camera and the display, And a willingness to take risks. Sometimes it would be very useful if Black magic increased its pool of beta testers to include a wider pool of users. I don’t shoot very often, but one look and I was immediately thinking of ways to do brutal mods to this camera. That is not a good thing. But perhaps the solution is to mount a late model iPhone as a LiDAR sensor, and make use of the Blackmagic control app to run the camera control interface. And wire sights to frame your subject, if you can not afford the fancy viewfinder. My question is this how extensively can Bluetooth interact with the camera. Can you pair with more than one device? Can wifi be used for camera control; with Bluetooth being reserved solely for focus pulling? As the camera has a gyro, surely flipping the camera upside down would flip the screen’s orientation. Perhaps a software update will allow this. If nothing else that doubles the rigging options.
@gianlucalanevecine
@gianlucalanevecine 5 ай бұрын
I think Blackmagic lowers the price of the monitor assist for one reason: they will introduce the g2 version which has camera controls from the USB-C port in Ursa Cine and Pyxis 6K.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
Granted these monitors are also pretty old at this point. Would have been cool to see a refresh. But cheaper price is nice!
@heinrichmack
@heinrichmack 5 ай бұрын
you know what, Blackmagic doesnt care any of your complaint, like or hate it, BMD will still earn sales from other beloved customers. it is not their lost if you dont buy it. dont think that you know better than them.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
Famous last words!
@nvafx
@nvafx 6 ай бұрын
this camera is designed to use an additional monitor. just deal with it for the price. They lowered their prices on the video assist monitors.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 6 ай бұрын
I am aware of the new price. However, it does not cost much to add a hinge lol
@nvafx
@nvafx 6 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl well your right, It would have been great to have tbh, but for me personally i use an evf or a monitor anyway. I see the side screen as a super settings window with added function as a framing monitor. best of luck!
@OrigEntertainmentOfficial
@OrigEntertainmentOfficial 6 ай бұрын
I think they are saving the flip out for an updated ursa mini.
@francisco_slade
@francisco_slade 5 ай бұрын
The specs are not the same as the as the 6K Pro, but the 6K FF. As for the display being where you preview the shot... I think you're widely missing the point here. This camera is a box camera to people who want to rig it. It's not the idea. It IS for people who is use a monitor or a EVF. Plus, 99% of professionals already have a monitor. The purpose of this monitr is not the cinematographer. Honestly, this doesn't make sense, this simply was not the idea.
@madedigital
@madedigital 6 ай бұрын
SO NOONE THESE DAYS OWN MONITORS....GIVE ME A BREAK
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 6 ай бұрын
I’m sure people do. However, the clientele for this is most likely people starting out who don’t have a lot of money for extra gear. So BM just left one of the most important features out of the camera tailored to that demographic.
@AbrahamVelazquez
@AbrahamVelazquez 6 ай бұрын
Just buy a pocket!
@antone9751
@antone9751 5 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl so they should buy a pocket! This camera is not aimed at the people you seem to think it is.
@francisco_slade
@francisco_slade 5 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl Hmmm... Not really. These people would buy a BMPCC 6K Pro, also because it's cheaper. This is a camera meant to be rigged, meaning people who choose to buy this camera know they will have to buy extra gear, which was what they wanted. If anyone wants a camera from BM that you can use (almost, as you'd need more batteries) right out of the box, they would choose one of the pockets.
@francisco_slade
@francisco_slade 5 ай бұрын
@@antone9751 Totally agree.
@johnnjamah
@johnnjamah 5 ай бұрын
OF ALL THE THINGS TO TALK ABOUT, ITS THE DISPLAY THAT BOTHERS YOU??...
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
There are many others as well but that was just a HUGE miss in my opinion that is easily fixed. But lack of built in ND, old sensor etc.
@LarsGottschalk
@LarsGottschalk 5 ай бұрын
The definition of a cinema camera has nothing to do with the image quality. It’s the integration into a workflow. The placement is perfect for the use as a cine cam. It’s build around small crews. The placement with the Komodo for example is quite annoying. Since most rigging is done primarily on top and button. Car mounts, crane etc. it’s always easier to have it on the side if your cam is fully Mounted. The top is usually only good for minimalist setups. But for this type of shoot the raw body of the pocket is better shaped. A box shape is all about flexibility. I am able to change the mount on a sub 3K$ camera. That’s the most selling feature for me. SDI, Timecode out. Amazing. Of course this cam will be used by influencers, same with the red Komodo but that’s not the marked it was designed for. The pocket was able to attract a higher market than intended. That market is now targeted with This camera.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
We shall see.
@qvisionmedia7195
@qvisionmedia7195 6 ай бұрын
The star of the show is the new ursa.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 6 ай бұрын
Looks promising! Will be interested to see the 17K sensor though.
@hausahiphop24
@hausahiphop24 5 ай бұрын
Always be sure of what you are saying. The Blackmagic Pyxis monitor is not fixed, please go and find out more. I'm advising you to remove this video from your collection. its so redisclose
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
Are you sure we are talking about the same camera?
@bford1908
@bford1908 6 ай бұрын
Another case of wanting everything for nothing!
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 6 ай бұрын
I guess you missed the point where I said “I would happily pay extra for that”.
@sealofthegods
@sealofthegods 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. I guess content has to be made. I haven't heard any complaining about red Komodo fixed monitor that's twice as much as this camera.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 6 ай бұрын
@@sealofthegods I guess you also missed the point where I said “At least on the Komodo the screen is on top and you can see at least something.” And there were a lot of complaints from professionals about Komodo as well. Some of which were addressed in Komodo-X.
@mmlewis1030
@mmlewis1030 6 ай бұрын
I'm not sure I know of a filmmaker who doesn't own an external monitor. This is a classic case of "but I want to use it in my own way" complaint. The Pyxis is a new line of camera for Blackmagic.
@d_FLDE
@d_FLDE 6 ай бұрын
I own a Komodo x and a bmpcc 6k pro. Guess why I love using the pocket on the rs3 pro. Because of the built in monitor
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 6 ай бұрын
That’s not the point: a) That feature should have been included because people have been asking for this for years in the pocket line so BM is aware that people need adjustable monitors. b) New line of cameras does not mean anything especially If it’s missing features.
@mmlewis1030
@mmlewis1030 6 ай бұрын
@@d_FLDE Cool you enjoy using the articulating screen. Doesn't invalidate my statement.
@mmlewis1030
@mmlewis1030 6 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl An articulating screen lessons the modularity of the camera. Modularity is the biggest consideration for that form factor. Thus why Sony, RED, Z-Cam, etc have all not included an articulating screen into the body.
@d_FLDE
@d_FLDE 6 ай бұрын
@@mmlewis1030.. red is not placing the single monitor on the side where most people place a side handle. 😂🤷🏼‍♂️
@Spinflight
@Spinflight 6 ай бұрын
I've been saying it all along. If you have to spend the extra money to actually make this camera work, they should've just made the camera more expensive and added a swivel screen in the first place.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 6 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@bford1908
@bford1908 6 ай бұрын
People who bought Arri's have to spend extra money to make it work! Go figure!
@Spinflight
@Spinflight 6 ай бұрын
@@bford1908 OH boy. Here we go. The Arri screen is for changing settings. It's not a monitor. The Pyxis is a monitor. As a monitor it's absolutely useless to permanently mount it on the side where a camera op can never use it. If you can't see the difference, I'm not sure what to tell you.
@bford1908
@bford1908 6 ай бұрын
@@Spinflight I actually agree with your take on the screen placement, my point is that most people already have an external monitor if they're a professional so it would be an easy workaround for those who have one and those who don't can get the inexpen 7" Feelworld monitor that gets good reviews at a whopping $150.
@Spinflight
@Spinflight 6 ай бұрын
@@bford1908 I have 5 shoguns for my fx3s. Half of my shoots, I never have to mount an external monitor to work with the cameras. With the Pyxis, you don’t have an option. You have to always carry an extra monitor with you always. Don’t make it a monitor if they’re going to put it in a position no camera op would use it in. Just make it a settings screen and call it a day. I just want to throw this thing on a gimbal, flip out the screen and get to work. Now I always have to build out a bigger heavier rig just to think about using it.
@plutoX1982
@plutoX1982 6 ай бұрын
Will you replace your Mac when the screen broken? or buy a new one? 😅
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
I would talk to @rossmanngroup about that! And yes you can!
@plutoX1982
@plutoX1982 5 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl 😥
@The_Gaea_Studio
@The_Gaea_Studio 6 ай бұрын
Wow, this is why i say listening to customers is useless..instead of whining why didnt you come up with a suggestion in the video?? Please tell us where would black magic place a 5inch monitor on a box camera??. The display BM put is a + feature that no one asked for. if you think the box style is aimed at run n gun folks then im honestly questioning your expertise. The BBCC6K FF is there btw
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
I guess you missed the point where I said “looks like there is nothing you can do now that the cat is out of the bag, but I hope they will fix this in Gen2 of the camera.”
@KBlaze
@KBlaze 5 ай бұрын
Most Boxed cameras don't have screens at all
@The_Gaea_Studio
@The_Gaea_Studio 4 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl Sorry but Have you ever used the Komodo x??
@The_Gaea_Studio
@The_Gaea_Studio 4 ай бұрын
@@KBlaze BMD should remove the screen entirely
@KBlaze
@KBlaze 5 ай бұрын
Buy an URSA then, whats the whining for 😂😂😂😂
@cungcung1
@cungcung1 5 ай бұрын
Black magic cameras always have problems something. batteries, screens etc… they need a good engineering.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 5 ай бұрын
Agreed
@evanthecameraman
@evanthecameraman 6 ай бұрын
This video is an L
@antone9751
@antone9751 6 ай бұрын
Buy a monitor (which is what you need to do for pretty much any other camera out there anyway)! Seriously, did you just make this video for clickbait because this is a complete non issue. The screen in the camera is for navigating menus.
@dimediaatl
@dimediaatl 6 ай бұрын
Again, that’s like saying “buy headlights for your car because manufacturer didn’t include those” BM has always used screens on their cameras to preview an image. They don’t include a viewfinder in there for free do they? An oversight is an oversight whether you agree with it or not.
@antone9751
@antone9751 6 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl does the Arri camera body you spend tens of thousands on come with all the bits you need to use it out of the box? Seriously dude, you shoot Arri all the time but you can’t pay a few hundred $ for a monitor? And no, not all BMD cameras come with a monitor to view the image. Do your homework.
@antone9751
@antone9751 6 ай бұрын
@@dimediaatl your analogy is not even remotely relevant here. Sony include tiny monitors that aren’t really usable outside so you need to use an external monitor. Red don’t include usable monitors with their bodies so you need buy an external one . Both Sony and Panasonic make full frame video cameras that don’t include any monitor or way of controlling the camera out of the box so you have to connect them to external equipment ……I could go on. Sure, if BMD could make a robust hinge that cost more to make but that was reliable, then they could offer that for a higher price but at this price point, I think it’s a good move as any film maker worth their salt will be adding their own monitor.
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